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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 16, 2021 15:44
 Subject: Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey?
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
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  And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

Would that move the giant modulex gap out of my color chart?

Well, in a sense it would because LEGO didn’t always give different numbers for
Modulex colours when they were the same as already existing colours (a colour
is a colour, Modulex or not)… but they also used the same numbers for different
colours (e.g. 3 is “normal” Light Yellow AND Modulex Black).

http://www.ryanhowerter.net/colors.php


  Does Lego use every number sequentially?

It seems LEGO used numbers sequentially as they were needed but there are unexplained
holes (no 51-79, no 92-99, etc.) and what I think are “never used colours” or
“not used yet colours” (e.g. 361 & 365, missing opal colours?).


Also that doesn’t address the many-to-one, one-to-many, many-to-many relations
between BL and LEGO colours.

And, finally, it would ruin a tonload of files that use BL’s numbering.  Wanted
Lists and Inventories that use the BL numbers but also all the compatibility
databases out there.

So I’d say: not a good idea.
 Author: pikachu3 View Messages Posted By pikachu3
 Posted: Feb 16, 2021 15:36
 Subject: Re: Adjusting Colour Names such as Bluish Grey?
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:

  Would that move the giant modulex gap out of my color chart? Does Lego use every
number sequentially?

Yes and, more importantly, no. There are colors that have more than one number
within Lego's system. There are many colors that were given a number but
never actually used in anything other than prototypes. There are numbers which
probably have a color, but we just haven't found a reference to it yet. And
there are many, many numbers which just refer to "Multicombination" (marbled/dual-molded)
parts.

While I do like to use Lego's color numbers, they don't always work 1:1
with BrickLink colors. Some of them (like new and old Dark Pink) have two different
Lego IDs, but are impossible to tell apart IRL. Others (like all the different
coppers) have been consolidated to make things simpler for buyers/sellers, since
the parts they come in don't really have much overlap.

As for Modulex... Lego's IDs for them often overlap with normal Lego colors.
5 Brick Yellow and 5 Mx Buff are both the same tan color. Same with 11 (Mx) Pastel
Blue (maersk blue). Others have no color match, but may have conflicting IDs.
 Author: TBS View Messages Posted By TBS
 Posted: Feb 16, 2021 15:04
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  In Suggestions, TBS writes:
Standard Green is actually 'Dark Green' but either way this topic is
not actually about revertng over to Lego colours

Ok, maybe i messed this one up,

It was the red which was the opposite, not the green. Just seen this on a blog.

Lego: Bright Red/ BL: Red .

Here is SOME more silly Lego-Colour-Names:

Sand Yellow/Dark Tan
Warm Gold/Pearl Gold
Bright Bluish Green/Dark Turquoise
Earth Blue/Dark Blue
Flame Yellowish Orange/Bright Light Orange
Bright Orange/Orange
Brick Yellow/Tan

When it comes to User-friendly, one should skip this idea already.
 Author: TBS View Messages Posted By TBS
 Posted: Feb 16, 2021 14:39
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In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea.

I think it's a good idea and logical first step towards harmonization.

To me, this seems and absolute bad idea. Because the LEGO naems are even more
confusing than the BL-Light,Bright,Standard,Dark Varitations.
I´d rather see LEGO adopting the BL-Names, than the other way around.
But doubt they ever will.

And switching to colour codes/numbers only. Oh i don´t know. htis makes it even
worse, especially by dealing for/with noobies.

If i remind correctly, these numbers aren´t even grouped?, correct?
Meaning, you can´t say Blues are 301 to 320 from light to dark...
They are 4 ,16, 51, 86, 325, 478 or so, because of their time/year being brought
in existence.

Could somebody check this ? Admin?
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Feb 16, 2021 14:29
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

  I hope others will share the same logic in what I’m trying to suggest or perhaps
I’m barking up the wrong tree? Thoughts?

We have considered harmonization of colors in the past, and we continue to do
so. But one thing I will mention is that the word "OLD" is likely not a term
we will include in Item Names or Color Names.

On BrickLink, the color and item name are often concatenated, meaning they are
stuck together for use as a single term. The official color numbers of Modulex
were removed from the color name for this very reason, to keep people from getting
confused.

And speaking of numbers, I'm thinking the first step in harmonization would
be to replace the BrickLink color numbers with official LEGO numbers. What do
people think of THAT idea. When we speak to internal folks, they tend to use
the numbers instead of the names, so there is value in those numbers.

Would that move the giant modulex gap out of my color chart? Does Lego use every
number sequentially?

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