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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 27, 2021 05:03
 Subject: Re: Set weight of Instruction 42111 to 396 Gram
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In Catalog, ropa00 writes:
  Have weighed Instruction of 42111 to be 396 Gram.
Do we have someone more to confirm this ?
Many thanks // Ronny Paulsson

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=S

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 Posted: Jan 27, 2021 03:20
 Subject: Re: Not include UK in EU search
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In Suggestions, tpr writes:
  In Suggestions, jek writes:
  Hi.

When I select "EU" as Seller-location search-filter, it still includes UK shops,
even thought they are no longer part of the EU.

I know there are suggestions and discussions before regarding VAT handling, which
I understand might be slightly more complicated to implement. But simply excluding
UK as part of the EU selection for filtering seems like a simple fix to me...

Hi

Is that EU or Europe - afaik we are still in Europe !!

In the search pages, it is European Union. It is a good idea to do this for EU
buyers, and also to remove the EU search button from searches for UK buyers
as the EU is nothing special for us any more.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 26, 2021 04:18
 Subject: Re: Making it clear you're about to order
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In Suggestions, richiethom writes:
  Hi

I have just accidentally ordered a set from a seller, because it wasn't clear
that I was about to place the order.

On Amazon, there is a final page which lists the total order amount including
shipping fees. I was trying to get to the Bricklink equivalent of this page so
that I could see how much delivery would cost, but before I knew it I had an
order confirmation number and so-on.

The fact that the order was about to be placed should be made a *lot* clearer,
especially for new users such as myself.

I managed to send a cancellation request about one minute after placing the order
- let's hope the seller is ok with it

Thanks in advance

Richiethom

I agree on the wording. Not so much on the last page but on the preceding ones.
There are warnings that you are about to have items reserved and you are obligated
to purchase but clicking does not place the order and just goes to the next step
of checkout. Maybe have "final step" on the last page is clearer. Or remove warnings
from the earlier pages and only have them on the page that places the order.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 21, 2021 15:01
 Subject: Re: Have all printed Legs been deleted?
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In Catalog, tonnic writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  
 
Part No: 971pb05  Name: Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
* 
971pb05 Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
Marked for Deletion
Today I saw that the printed Leg in our inventory got marked for deletion. I
saw that even more are marked likewise. Is there a reason behind it I missed?

Christian

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https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1171361
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https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159628

If printed ones are removed, why are plain ones not being removed?

 
Part No: 970  Name: Hips
* 
970 Hips
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 971  Name: Leg, Right
* 
971 Leg, Right
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 972  Name: Leg, Left
* 
972 Leg, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

Surely these suffer the same problems as printed ones when taken apart.

Yep, that is a good one if not a really good one!

I agree with you.
I see a lot of chewed on legs, plain and decorated, it should be nice if you
can replace them for a lower price than a complete assembly.

In fact, there is no reason at all why arms and hands can be sold apart while
decorated legs cannot be sold separately.
And if someone makes up a reason it would be valid for the legs too.

I find hands and arms can be removed and replaced multiple times without getting
loose. Legs, wobbly after one removal.
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 Posted: Jan 21, 2021 13:50
 Subject: Re: Have all printed Legs been deleted?
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  
 
Part No: 971pb05  Name: Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
* 
971pb05 Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
Marked for Deletion
Today I saw that the printed Leg in our inventory got marked for deletion. I
saw that even more are marked likewise. Is there a reason behind it I missed?

Christian

novabrick-team

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1171361
and
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1159628

If printed ones are removed, why are plain ones not being removed?

 
Part No: 970  Name: Hips
* 
970 Hips
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 971  Name: Leg, Right
* 
971 Leg, Right
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 972  Name: Leg, Left
* 
972 Leg, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

Surely these suffer the same problems as printed ones when taken apart.
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 Posted: Jan 19, 2021 12:48
 Subject: Re: Please change "Coral" to "Vibrant Coral"
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  Ideally each piece should be identified in the bricklink catalog with all 3 pieces
of info (official color ID#, BL color name and LG color name). That way if a
seller is entering inventory, they could use any one of those identifiers, and
if a buyer is looking for parts they can find the exact color they are looking
for. The BL color name could still remain the default.

And what happens when these don't match? Some parts have different official
LEGO colours yet have the same BL colour, and vice versa.
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 Posted: Jan 19, 2021 07:37
 Subject: Re: monthly maintenance downtime
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In Suggestions, legouneed writes:
  The site will be down during the monthly maintenance
scheduled at 01/20 from 01:00 AM to 02:00 EST.

What is EST? It means nothing to me.
Can the time also be shown as GMT??

Then they would need to put all 38 hour timezones, so as not to favour a particular
group.

Better that they just use BL time, that is EST.
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 Posted: Jan 19, 2021 04:51
 Subject: Re: Have all printed Legs been deleted?
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In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  
 
Part No: 971pb05  Name: Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
* 
971pb05 Leg, Right with SW White Leggings Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
Marked for Deletion
Today I saw that the printed Leg in our inventory got marked for deletion. I
saw that even more are marked likewise. Is there a reason behind it I missed?

Christian

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I imagine that it is because they are different to arms and hands in that if
you remove legs from hips then you almost certainly damage the hips, whereas
hands and arms can be more successfully exchanged.
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 Posted: Jan 17, 2021 14:10
 Subject: Re: Change Part Dimensions to Metric
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  The level of precision (should be 2 decimals in mm and 3 if you really are going
to cm)

I think that might put people off contributing. Given parts are rarely packed
touching without wasting space, then one decimal place for mm is fine, even the
nearest mm would be fine.
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 Posted: Jan 15, 2021 17:54
 Subject: Re: Change Part Dimensions to Metric
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In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  It's a moot point now, since this is actually being implemented, but my point
is that when adding part sizes, doing that by stud and brick height is not easy
in most cases or practical compared to standard measurements. ie. sticking a
ruler next to a part and measuring it's height. The conversion to studs and
brick heights should be on the server side, not the human input side.

It is just as easy to stick a brick next to a part and count the studs as it
is to put a ruler next to a part and measure it.

Given that only one measurement of size should be used where possible for a particular
function, and how easy it is to determine the size of the majority of bricks,
plates, and other parts by just looking at them, then the studs as the visual
dimensions should (and will be) retained. The system scale and packing scale
are two different things. Of course, there are other scales in use too. DUPLO
is also measured in studs but this time DUPLO studs. So a DUPLO 2x2 brick is
still 2x2x1 in studs, the same as a system 2x2 brick. The difference is that
the user is expected to know that DUPLO studs are different to system studs.

Yes, I agree, placing a piece across studs is pretty easy, although not very
accurate. It is better to start off accurate and then round up or down to stud
length on the server side. However, brick height is not that easy, even on the
human side. Now you're getting into very inaccurate measurements and guesstimating
when dealing with partial brick height. Height is especially easier with standard
measurements.

I find measuring parts in brick height quite easy, use a pile of bricks with
three plates on the top. Measurements are then accurate to 1/3 a brick height
which is good enough for most parts as that is the accuracy that they are quoted
to.

For non-brick parts two measurements are sometimes quoted as needed, but the
cm dimensions don't go into the dimensions field but into the name. For example:

 
Part No: 522  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
* 
522 Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear
 
Part No: 522c  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 3.9cm Height
* 
522c Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 3.9cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear

Telling these two apart if you only have one of them is difficult, even with
a ruler.

 
Part No: x77ac75  Name: String, Cord Thin    75cm
* 
x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm
Parts: String & Net
 
Part No: 5102c38  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  38L / 30.4cm
* 
5102c38 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 38L / 30.4cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.

It makes sense to have them in the name here because the size is often very different
to the packaging dimensions, and also sometimes you need to know a length in
studs or in cm depending on what you are doing with it.

You seem very opposed to the idea of using international standards of measurement
for user input or just playing devil's advocate. I'm not sure why, but
I'm sure that anything I say will not convince you otherwise. So let's
leave
it at that.

Not at all, for packaging they make sense. But for describing part sizes then
studs are better.
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 Posted: Jan 15, 2021 14:31
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In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
  It's a moot point now, since this is actually being implemented, but my point
is that when adding part sizes, doing that by stud and brick height is not easy
in most cases or practical compared to standard measurements. ie. sticking a
ruler next to a part and measuring it's height. The conversion to studs and
brick heights should be on the server side, not the human input side.

It is just as easy to stick a brick next to a part and count the studs as it
is to put a ruler next to a part and measure it.

Given that only one measurement of size should be used where possible for a particular
function, and how easy it is to determine the size of the majority of bricks,
plates, and other parts by just looking at them, then the studs as the visual
dimensions should (and will be) retained. The system scale and packing scale
are two different things. Of course, there are other scales in use too. DUPLO
is also measured in studs but this time DUPLO studs. So a DUPLO 2x2 brick is
still 2x2x1 in studs, the same as a system 2x2 brick. The difference is that
the user is expected to know that DUPLO studs are different to system studs.

Yes, I agree, placing a piece across studs is pretty easy, although not very
accurate. It is better to start off accurate and then round up or down to stud
length on the server side. However, brick height is not that easy, even on the
human side. Now you're getting into very inaccurate measurements and guesstimating
when dealing with partial brick height. Height is especially easier with standard
measurements.

I find measuring parts in brick height quite easy, use a pile of bricks with
three plates on the top. Measurements are then accurate to 1/3 a brick height
which is good enough for most parts as that is the accuracy that they are quoted
to.

For non-brick parts two measurements are sometimes quoted as needed, but the
cm dimensions don't go into the dimensions field but into the name. For example:

 
Part No: 522  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
* 
522 Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear
 
Part No: 522c  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 3.9cm Height
* 
522c Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 3.9cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear

Telling these two apart if you only have one of them is difficult, even with
a ruler.

 
Part No: x77ac75  Name: String, Cord Thin    75cm
* 
x77ac75 String, Cord Thin 75cm
Parts: String & Net
 
Part No: 5102c38  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  38L / 30.4cm
* 
5102c38 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 38L / 30.4cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.

It makes sense to have them in the name here because the size is often very different
to the packaging dimensions, and also sometimes you need to know a length in
studs or in cm depending on what you are doing with it.
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 Posted: Jan 15, 2021 12:45
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  It's a moot point now, since this is actually being implemented, but my point
is that when adding part sizes, doing that by stud and brick height is not easy
in most cases or practical compared to standard measurements. ie. sticking a
ruler next to a part and measuring it's height. The conversion to studs and
brick heights should be on the server side, not the human input side.

It is just as easy to stick a brick next to a part and count the studs as it
is to put a ruler next to a part and measure it.

Given that only one measurement of size should be used where possible for a particular
function, and how easy it is to determine the size of the majority of bricks,
plates, and other parts by just looking at them, then the studs as the visual
dimensions should (and will be) retained. The system scale and packing scale
are two different things. Of course, there are other scales in use too. DUPLO
is also measured in studs but this time DUPLO studs. So a DUPLO 2x2 brick is
still 2x2x1 in studs, the same as a system 2x2 brick. The difference is that
the user is expected to know that DUPLO studs are different to system studs.
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 Posted: Jan 15, 2021 10:00
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In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, BasKrie writes:
  You can't however set them through the change item form (yet?).

This is exactly what I'm asking for. I'm aware that I can change them
for my own store, but I'm thinking of the greater good. I want to change
them for everyone using the change item tool, but it's too much hassle right
now because it's not in metric or imperial.

The change item page sets the dimensions of the part in studs. People use studs
for measurements when building, not mm or inches. If I've got a 2x16 plate
and I put a 2x2 tile on one end, a 2x2 tile on the other and I want to work out
which part(s) I need to tile the rest, I can quickly determine that I need 2x12
worth of tiles. I don't want to have to get a ruler out to measure the gap
in mm, then work out what parts have the correct size to fit. I can look at the
part, and the studs act as a measuring device.

Whereas the shipping sizes are in mm, as the volume of packages in more common
units are necessary.
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In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  In Suggestions, wildchicken13 writes:
  In Suggestions, gogogovro writes:
  Hey Bricklink,

I would love to add dimensions to my parts that don't have them, but unfortunately
they don't sell rulers that measure by studs and bricks at the hardware store.
Also, I didn't take the brick-ometry class in high school. Can you please
change the dimensions of parts to an international standard? Metric, Imperial,
I don't care, as long as more than just the users of this site know what
they mean and I can buy a ruler at the dollar store that measures them.

It would be a great help for shipping, especially when parts over a certain dimension
can't be shipped via a certain package size. I know, I can't believe
Canada Post doesn't convert bricks to centimetres, what snobs.

I hate to say this but brick owl is good for one thing, they list their measurements
in cm. Guess where I go most of the time for part dimensions? I won't spoil
it.

So in conclusion, please, please, please change the way parts are measured in
Bricklink from studs and bricks to centimetres, millimetres, or even inches (counting
by twelves - shudder).

Thanks for your consideration!

Wait a second… You can display packaging dimensions in bricks and studs?!

Seriously, though. All of my packaging dimensions are displayed in millimeters
and weight is displayed in grams. I don't know what happened on your end
that made them show up in bricks and studs or if there is even a setting for
that. Perhaps it's a Canadian thing?

Or are you referring to the names of the parts? That is unlikely to change any
time soon as it is much easier to refer to parts by their dimensions in bricks
and studs than my their dimensions in inches or millimeters, however convenient
that may be for packing and shipping purposes.

Good point! I'm talking when you want to make a catalog change.

Good suggestion. Measuring dimensions in bricks and studs makes sense for basic
parts such as bricks and plates, but not for small parts such as minifigure accessories
and non-system elements such as technic.

However, it's just a simple matter of unit conversion. I always remember
that one stud equals 5/16 of an inch and a plate is 1/8 of an inch. For the rest
of the world, that's approximately 7.9 and 3.2 mm.

You make my point exactly. First, we already have universal systems of measurement,
why convert to a system of measurement that only exists on this site? Second,
converting creates a barrier for people like me who just want to update a part
size, not learn a new language. Lastly, I'm a perfectionist and this "approximately"
business is for the birds. That's why hardware stores sell rulers, so we
can know exactly how long something is.

When it comes to brick names, I prefer 2x2 brick to cuboid 16.0 mm x 16.0 mm
x 9.6 mm, and that is before you start adding terms for modifications. And based
on that, one measuring system makes sense, so not mixing studs with inches and
mm. Where necessary other units can be used when clarification is needed, for
example capes and strings, elastics, wheels. For torsos, hair, minifig accessories
and so on, I don't think dimensions are needed, just shipping dimensions.
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 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 09:15
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In Inventories, keithmcgibbon writes:
  Hi,
I am building The big Millenium Falcon and want to sort the parts into bags as
they appear in the instructions. I can see the inventory for the total build,
but it would make building easier if I could sort the parts into the same bags
they come is as new. Does anyone have any suggestions for where I could get
parts list arranged this way?
thanks

Unless someone has already done it, then you will have to follow the manual part
by part but it takes some time for even a 1000 piece set. For the UCS MF, it
will take a long time!
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  I don't know much about TLG. But from what I've read and heard, it seems
to place a great deal of importance (more than most corporations or groups) on
communication with it's consumer or end-users, beyond conventional advertisement
that is.

Even though LEGO owns bricklink, they are separate companies and I don't
think much of LEGO's communication skills have rubbed off on BL yet.
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 Posted: Jan 11, 2021 06:01
 Subject: Re: Please Change Name of Part (973pb4140c01)
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In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
  Wu, Sensei outfit

with the comma makes sense. It is Wu in his sensei outfit. Like Luke in his many
outfits ...


 
Minifig No: sw0971  Name: Luke Skywalker (Cloud City, Dark Tan Shirt)
* 
sw0971 (Inv) Luke Skywalker (Cloud City, Dark Tan Shirt)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
 
Minifig No: sw0204  Name: Luke Skywalker - Stormtrooper Outfit
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sw0204 (Inv) Luke Skywalker - Stormtrooper Outfit
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

although standardisation of whether or not to use outfit and the format would
be good...

 
Minifig No: sw0973  Name: Lando Calrissian, Cloud City Outfit (Coiled Texture Hair)
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sw0973 (Inv) Lando Calrissian, Cloud City Outfit (Coiled Texture Hair)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

I'd prefer "Name, Outfit worn (any necessary qualifiers)"

So those above would be
Luke Skywalker, Cloud City outfit (dark tan shirt)
Luke Skywalker, Stormtrooper outfit
Lando Calrissian, Cloud City outfit (coiled texture hair)

I'm also against unnecessary capitalisation, but willing to let it go as
it doesn't interfere with searches or placement in searches.

+1

But we do really need the word outfit everywhere?

I'm easy either way, so long as it is consistent. So yes if we want it to
be clear that it is an outfit, no if we are OK with there being some possible
confusion between outfits and set names and maybe locations.

For example, does

Luke Skywalker, Cloud City

mean it is Luke Skywalker in his Cloud City outfit or Luke Skywalker from a set
called Cloud City. In this case, it doesn't really matter but in other case
it might.
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In Catalog Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, DeLuca writes:
  Please change Part (973pb4140c01) to "Torso Space Futuron, Black Panels with
Gold Zipper and Classic Space Logo on Front and 'Police' on Back, Blue
and Light Bluish Gray Lines Pattern / Black Arms / White Hands".
 
Part No: 973pb4140c01  Name: Torso Space Futuron Black Pattern, Gold Zipper and Classic Logo, 'POLICE' on Back / Black Arms / White Hands
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973pb4140c01 (Inv) Torso Space Futuron Black Pattern, Gold Zipper and Classic Logo, 'POLICE' on Back / Black Arms / White Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

Not to contribute to title-bloat, but since the word "Police" features prominently
on this part, it needs to be included in the description, since that is
how most people would search for it. 😕

Why do we need the locations (as in front / back) of the prints in the description.
"Black Panels with Gold Zipper, Classic Space and Police logos" covers the important
search terms. Are people really searching for back as a keyword for something
like this? If so, all other torso assemblies where back printing is mentioned
should be updated.

But there are torsos where back print is the only distinguishing feature like
 
Part No: 973pb2680c01  Name: Torso Female Hoodie with White Laces, Blue Scrollwork, Kangaroo Pocket and Back Print Pattern / Bright Light Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
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973pb2680c01 (Inv) Torso Female Hoodie with White Laces, Blue Scrollwork, Kangaroo Pocket and Back Print Pattern / Bright Light Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
 
Part No: 973pb3889c01  Name: Torso Female Hoodie with White Laces, Blue Scrollwork, Kangaroo Pocket without Back Print Pattern / Bright Light Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
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973pb3889c01 (Inv) Torso Female Hoodie with White Laces, Blue Scrollwork, Kangaroo Pocket without Back Print Pattern / Bright Light Blue Arms / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

Which is fine if it helps to distinguish two similar ones that might otherwise
be confused. There is nothing on that back printed one that is an obvious search
term to differentiate them. However, I don't think anyone will be searching
for without back print if they have the second one. They will search for features
it has, rather than what it does not have.

The point was more do we need to be told in the description that the word police
is on the back, rather than just present in the name. If they do exactly the
same torso without back print, will it be necessary to say there is no print
on the back? Would it then be necessary to say there is no print on the back
of the original futuron torsos as they also have no back prints? Surely the word
police in the name is enough to distinguish between this torso and exactly the
same print on the front of a torso only. If someone had a front-only torso, they
would not search for police but would still find both the one and two sided prints.
Surely it is then obvious which they have as one says police and one does not,
without being told the location of the word police.
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Wu, Sensei outfit

with the comma makes sense. It is Wu in his sensei outfit. Like Luke in his many
outfits ...


 
Minifig No: sw0971  Name: Luke Skywalker (Cloud City, Dark Tan Shirt)
* 
sw0971 (Inv) Luke Skywalker (Cloud City, Dark Tan Shirt)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6
 
Minifig No: sw0204  Name: Luke Skywalker - Stormtrooper Outfit
* 
sw0204 (Inv) Luke Skywalker - Stormtrooper Outfit
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

although standardisation of whether or not to use outfit and the format would
be good...

 
Minifig No: sw0973  Name: Lando Calrissian, Cloud City Outfit (Coiled Texture Hair)
* 
sw0973 (Inv) Lando Calrissian, Cloud City Outfit (Coiled Texture Hair)
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

I'd prefer "Name, Outfit worn (any necessary qualifiers)"

So those above would be
Luke Skywalker, Cloud City outfit (dark tan shirt)
Luke Skywalker, Stormtrooper outfit
Lando Calrissian, Cloud City outfit (coiled texture hair)

I'm also against unnecessary capitalisation, but willing to let it go as
it doesn't interfere with searches or placement in searches.
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In Catalog Requests, DeLuca writes:
  Please change Part (973pb4140c01) to "Torso Space Futuron, Black Panels with
Gold Zipper and Classic Space Logo on Front and 'Police' on Back, Blue
and Light Bluish Gray Lines Pattern / Black Arms / White Hands".
 
Part No: 973pb4140c01  Name: Torso Space Futuron Black Pattern, Gold Zipper and Classic Logo, 'POLICE' on Back / Black Arms / White Hands
* 
973pb4140c01 (Inv) Torso Space Futuron Black Pattern, Gold Zipper and Classic Logo, 'POLICE' on Back / Black Arms / White Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

Not to contribute to title-bloat, but since the word "Police" features prominently
on this part, it needs to be included in the description, since that is
how most people would search for it. 😕

Why do we need the locations (as in front / back) of the prints in the description.
"Black Panels with Gold Zipper, Classic Space and Police logos" covers the important
search terms. Are people really searching for back as a keyword for something
like this? If so, all other torso assemblies where back printing is mentioned
should be updated.
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In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  In Catalog, Mirko8710 writes:

  For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:

 
Part No: bb0624pb01  Name: Crab, The Little Mermaid with White Eyes, Small Black Pupils Pattern (Sebastian)
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bb0624pb01 Crab, The Little Mermaid with White Eyes, Small Black Pupils Pattern (Sebastian)
Parts: Animal, Water



or

  
 
Part No: 93088pb06  Name: Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
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93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land



or

  
 
Part No: 15679pb01  Name: Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
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15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
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They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.

hmmm... i spend ages finding this bat

 
Minifig No: elf052  Name: Shadow Bat, Phyll (6213879)
* 
elf052 Shadow Bat, Phyll (6213879)
Minifigures: Elves

But it is a minifig... It's all very confusing

Christian

novabrick-team

Yes, it is not helpful when the animal species is not included and only the name
us used. In that case, you need to know the name to search for it.
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  Those are NOT options that serve user needs better. Super-lots are removed from
search results by default, so a buyer not aware of this setting misses finding
these items at all. Custom lots have pretty much the same thing as it will not
be findable in any way associated with the actual minifigure, set, or minifigure
parts in the catalog. Part out option, the whole point of the post as this is
exactly what I do not want to do. In the current "suppressed" option of the
two above there is no option of value. So there is really no option that truly
"better serves the needs of users" given the only options offered are suppressed
and hidden ones only a savvy user would be able to find or use effectively.


So maybe incomplete minifigures should be allowed but not shown to users by default,
just like superlots. They should only be shown to a buyer if they understand
what they are doing when clicking on a button to say include incomplete figures.
But then if that approach is followed, you might as well just list as a custom.

As a buyer, trying to buy some figures used to be painful, since many of the
listings were not what the picture showed. This is especially true for characters
where one part is rare, and most of the listings were incomplete.
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In Suggestions, dosenfant writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

  The rectangle in the upper right corner of every post has the users country,
feedback, whether the store ships to you, and so on.

Yes, that's true. But I have to click on every offer just to see that it
is in a far away country. If the country was indicated directly in the message
list I could just pick the few that might be of interest, e.g. only offers of
German or European sellers in my case.

It's also true that some of them might not ship to me, but I can already
"filter out a lot of noise".

I agree a country might be useful, but any more information such as feedback
and the title of the post will just become too long.

Plus any seller is welcome to add their country already if they want to. When
I used to post sales, I often put UK in the title for this reason.
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What would happen if we move all:

Animal, Air (99)
Animal, Dinosaur (66)
Animal, Land (394)
Animal, Water (69)

To Minifigures? Most are figures per se...

Unless they are kept in an "animals, air" and so on category within minifigures,
then I think they become harder to find if they get mixed in with regular minifigs.
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In Suggestions, dosenfant writes:
  Hi there,

It would be great if the country of a user could be displayed in the forum's
message lists - along with the other user information like feedback, etc. Especially
in the "Sales" forum you could then quickly deduce whether the offer might be
interesting for you or not.

As an example I'm from Germany, but many offers are from the US which are
usually not interesting to me due to high shipping costs.

Best regards

Daniel

The rectangle in the upper right corner of every post has the users country,
feedback, whether the store ships to you, and so on.
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In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
  That could well get confusing given LEGO in-house animals are starting to get
  names too, and are therefore defined characters.

Although ...
 
Minifig No: sw0408  Name: Salacious B. Crumb
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sw0408 Salacious B. Crumb
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

I've never really understood the difference between him and Scooby Doo when
it comes to cataloguing.

True, but if I would collect Friends Mini-Dolls and their specific animals I
would like to have them with the Mini-Dolls (minifigures) or in a specific sub-category
of the theme.

Obviously it should be a decision make time by time...

If you have an unknown animal you then possibly need to look through both the
animal and the minifig sections to identify it.
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In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
  In Catalog Requests, bje writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
  Hi all!

I didn't find any question about that in the Forum, so, I'm asking.

Since Chip is a realt character as Ms Potts o Cogsworth are, why it is not considered
as a Minifigure instead of a normal Decorated Utensil?

Thank you and Happy New Year

[p=38014pb01]

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=38014pb01&idColor=1#T=P&C=1

Also [p=3899pb006]
although I see Mrs Potts is now a minifigure

I don't think the debate around category definitions got finished, so probably
there are still issues with consistency.

That's right. I think that probably all of these character should be considered
as minifigures. This is a fact that involve few themes (Disney and Disney Princess
in primis).

For example, I hope that this modifications will include also the animals like:

 
Part No: bb0624pb01  Name: Crab, The Little Mermaid with White Eyes, Small Black Pupils Pattern (Sebastian)
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bb0624pb01 Crab, The Little Mermaid with White Eyes, Small Black Pupils Pattern (Sebastian)
Parts: Animal, Water



or

  
 
Part No: 93088pb06  Name: Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
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93088pb06 Dog, Friends, Puppy, Standing with Fur over Eyes, Black Nose, Open Mouth with Tongue and Light Bluish Gray Ears Pattern (Max)
Parts: Animal, Land



or

  
 
Part No: 15679pb01  Name: Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
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15679pb01 Fish, The Little Mermaid with Blue Stripes, Medium Azure Dorsal and Caudal Fins, Lime Eyes Pattern (Flounder / Fabius) (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Animal, Water
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They are animals but since they are producted only to represents that specific
characters they need to be considered minifigures.

That could well get confusing given LEGO in-house animals are starting to get
names too, and are therefore defined characters.

Although ...
 
Minifig No: sw0408  Name: Salacious B. Crumb
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sw0408 Salacious B. Crumb
Minifigures: Star Wars: Star Wars Episode 4/5/6

I've never really understood the difference between him and Scooby Doo when
it comes to cataloguing.
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In Inventories, tEoS writes:
  I don't buy the advents often, even though I think the trays are really nice.
Today, I splurged for the Star Wars and Harry Potter advents and received a
duplicate figure.

It was a nice surprise. 2x of this in one set:

 
Set No: 75981  Name: Advent Calendar 2020, Harry Potter (Day 15) - Padma Patil
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75981-16 (Inv) Advent Calendar 2020, Harry Potter (Day 15) - Padma Patil
1 Part, 1 Minifigure, 2020
Sets: Holiday & Event: Advent Sub-Set: Harry Potter

Did you have another set missing or was it an extra. I had a duplicate and one
missing last year in the HP calendar.
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In Catalog Requests, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog Requests, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
  Hi all!

I didn't find any question about that in the Forum, so, I'm asking.

Since Chip is a realt character as Ms Potts o Cogsworth are, why it is not considered
as a Minifigure instead of a normal Decorated Utensil?

Thank you and Happy New Year

[p=38014pb01]

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=38014pb01&idColor=1#T=P&C=1

I've a weak recollection of the determining factor being an 'assembly'
of parts, i.e more than one part? Could be remembering wrong, I'm sure we'll
both find out here soon.

It can't be that.

 
Minifig No: UNI11  Name: Rick (6223895)
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uni11 Rick (6223895)
Minifigures: Unikitty!


Probably just inconsistency.

There you go!

Are there more examples, or is the Unikitty brick an anomaly?

There are all the one piece Angry Birds style characters, although those are
more like Fabuland, Jack Stone, DUPLO, and so on one piece figs in that they
have some movement and they are not just a traditional part that has been printed.
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In Catalog Requests, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Mirko8710 writes:
  Hi all!

I didn't find any question about that in the Forum, so, I'm asking.

Since Chip is a realt character as Ms Potts o Cogsworth are, why it is not considered
as a Minifigure instead of a normal Decorated Utensil?

Thank you and Happy New Year

[p=38014pb01]

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=38014pb01&idColor=1#T=P&C=1

I've a weak recollection of the determining factor being an 'assembly'
of parts, i.e more than one part? Could be remembering wrong, I'm sure we'll
both find out here soon.

It can't be that.

 
Minifig No: UNI11  Name: Rick (6223895)
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uni11 Rick (6223895)
Minifigures: Unikitty!


Probably just inconsistency.
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In Suggestions, Cysoth writes:
  It would be practical to know store's city in the case we want to do local
buying (buying bigger lots, bigger pieces, save on shipping or only buy local).

We have already the list by country and province/state.
We could add the city.

Also in the Buy Wanted Lists/Items for sale, we could add with the country and
the contient, a "near by X kms" or something like that.

Sellers are free to tell you this information if they want to allow pick-ups.
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In Suggestions, randyipp writes:
  In Suggestions, mike1burns writes:
  I'm confused how sellers destroy the sale price with sky high prices? Shouldn't
the sales price reflect what people are willing to pay? If pieces are selling
at sky high prices than that is what they are worth!

Not 6 months sales average, current inventory average. Some people like to use
current inventory prices instead of historical sales figures.

Someone offering for sale ava005 for $98 (which is probably used) doesn't
mean it is worth that.

If the median was used, the current median price would be higher than the mean
for that figure.
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In Suggestions, tonnic writes:
  In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, the_legoqueen writes:
  At some time, superlots and their items were relegated to an optional box to
be checked in a search for items to buy. Now none of my paired items who belong
together and in a superlot are not showing up. This "feature" box should be
the DEFAULT (to show items in a superlot), with the box used to REMOVE superlots
from a search. The superlot feature is incredibly useful and is now useless.
I am embarrassed to say that I have had some supersets out there for over 10
years and never noticed that they weren't being shown. I also noted that
I had no way to search for this topic in the suggestions, so I apologize if it
has already been discussed.

Nope.  Because there’ll always be sellers to set all items in a superlot but
one at $0.01, lure the unaware buyers and screw the Price Guide.

And price fixing to prevent that is not an option.

I fully agree.
Some sellers use this to make certain parts and/or minifigs look cheap while
in the end buyers still pay a lot in total.
I saw this with CMF’s in the past and always thought it was an inappropriate
trick of the trade.

Also agree. Certain stores listing every minifig for 1c then another for $100
ruined superlots. However now CMFs can be listed as sets of 16 (or 12 or whatever)
maybe that would stop.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  We'll be opening public discussion on February 1st, 2021 for an additional
round of correcting mis-categorizations. The discussion will last through the
end of February.

We'll review internally during the month of March and the approved changes
will occur at the beginning of April.

We plan to address the issue of tiles/plates this time around and also several
issues we couldn't get to last time. No promises, but we're also hoping
to finally move brick-built games from Gear to Sets in response to numerous complaints
over the last decade or so.

Is a month long enough to discuss the tiles/plates issues? Especially the shortest
month!

It should be an interesting discussion. And let's hope you get permissions
to make any sensible changes.
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  BrickLink members have asked for these to be added to the catalog for many years.
Merry Christmas!

[P=3626bpb2715]
[P=3626cpb2715]

Awesome!

Hollow stud version is already on 4 wanted lists!
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In Suggestions, Cob writes:
  
  Approving first posts doesn't help much.


Please explain why

  Then it's the second or third post violating the rules.

A spammer is not likely not going to spend money on the site just to post spam.

What about new users that have a problem.
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In Suggestions, BasKrie writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, Breakdown26 writes:
  It's probably been suggested a billion times over, but it would be really
cool if the you didn't press save on the shipping costs . . . . or you forgot
if you are a seller that the system would have a nag page to say: "Are you sure
that you want to proceed with an order with zero shipping, and all you have to
do is say yes to proceed instead of either eating shipping costs on quotes, or
having to look unprofessional in front of customers asking for shipping fees.

Why is it unprofessional to send an invoice and demand payment for the financial
liability the buyer agreed to? I might be misunderstanding your suggestion. You
do know obviously that there are three different final buttons, depending on
your store setup? In your case as a non-IC store, the final button specifically
says the seller will send an invoice. I cannot see as you do not ship to me (and
I will not change my address), but do you have the quote function actually enabled
as well?

And last but not least - have someone in Canada check for you which shipping
option BL automatically picks for a buyer. It might very well be that one of
your pickup options are chosen for buyers and they just click through. There
are very experienced return buyers in my store who still click through with the
incorrect default shipping method BL chooses for them.

I think he means that a seller should get a warning when sending an invoice when
the shiping cost is set at 0.
Maybe a few to many have gone out without entering the correct shipping cost


Surely that is what the invoice preview is for.
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In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
  In Catalog, lindsayacowden writes:
  I'm wondering about something and I am am hoping that someone here may be
able to tell me. You know how when things like the US Mint makes a coin and sends
it out with an error. Then all of those with the errors become SUPER valuable?
Well, does it work like that with LEGO pieces, catalogs, etc. Thanks so much
for any help!!

It depends on the part and the kind of mistake made.

If it enhances the look of the brick or minifig, it does make the item more valuable.

See marbled LEGO pieces, these are mistakes, LEGO throws these away or remelts
them.
But collectors pay big bucks for them.
Printed minifig heads in the wrong color can make a nice bit of cash.
Marbled brick, if the colors are nice are also collectable.

Maxx

I agree here, the part has to be enhanced by the error, not just be an error.
There are 1000s of error parts on BL. Bad prints are almost worthless - misaligned
or smudged ones and so on are rubbish rather than collectable. Whereas ones printed
in or on the wrong colour, upside down prints, two-sided prints on one side,
they are more interesting.

Others can be fakes - missing print for example. Even short shots can be faked
by cutting a part and careful use of a heat gun.

Catalogues are too widely available to be worth that much, especially ones made
now.
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In Suggestions, novabrick writes:
  In Suggestions, mockingbird writes:
  I use the app of the postal service I use to create the shipping labels. They
provide certain fields that can be filled out. But from the bricklink address
it is not alway clear which is which.
I've not yet had orders from a country that needed a national alphabet.

We had a request from a customer to write the address extra on the package in
russian letters. So basically it had the stickering from the post with all data
in normal letters and an additinal sticker with his adress in russian letters.

But this was on special demand.

Christian

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Maybe there should be the option to upload / download an image that can be printed.
Especially where it uses a non-Latin alphabet.
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  It is actually up to the buyer to provide the correct information, but buyers
are rather limited by BL's way of doing things.

It would be good to have an extra step, showing the buyer exactly how their address
will appear to sellers with a check box saying that they agree it is in the correct
format.



I once had a buyer that was along the lines of:
A Name
1 Street Name
LONDON
LONDON
London AB1 2CD
United Kingdom

I think they lived in London! I missed out two lines of the address and the parcel
still got there fine.
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In Inventories Requests, martinjantscher writes:
  In Inventories Requests, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories Requests, martinjantscher writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6034  Name: Black Monarch's Ghost
* 
6034-1 (Inv) Black Monarch's Ghost
36 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1990
Sets: Castle: Black Knights

* Delete 1 Part 4502a Red Minifigure, Plume Feather Small
* Change 1 Part Red {4502c Minifigure, Plume Feather Large to 4502b Minifigure, Plume Feather Triple}

Comments from Submitter:
It can be seen on the pictures as well as in my instruction that the knight has the 4502b Plume Feather Triple on his helmet. Nothing else.

The large and small feathers came with the set (on one sprue with the triple
feather), and are therefore needed for the complete set.


The triple feather is already included in the minifigure inventory:
 
Minifig No: cas172  Name: Breastplate - Armor over Black, Black Helmet, Dark Gray Visor, Red 3-Feather Plume
* 
cas172 (Inv) Breastplate - Armor over Black, Black Helmet, Dark Gray Visor, Red 3-Feather Plume
Minifigures: Castle: Black Knights

I see. But wouldn't it make more sense then to move the large and the small
feather to the inventory of the minifig? So all feathers are located at the same
spot?

No, because the minifigure doesn't need the other parts. The situation is
not ideal, but the admins wanted it this way to indicate that those extra parts
came in the set, but they are not loose extra parts like other extras. When one
item from a sprue is removed for a minifigure, the other parts become parts of
the set, even if not needed for the build.
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In Inventories Requests, martinjantscher writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6034  Name: Black Monarch's Ghost
* 
6034-1 (Inv) Black Monarch's Ghost
36 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1990
Sets: Castle: Black Knights

* Delete 1 Part 4502a Red Minifigure, Plume Feather Small
* Change 1 Part Red {4502c Minifigure, Plume Feather Large to 4502b Minifigure, Plume Feather Triple}

Comments from Submitter:
It can be seen on the pictures as well as in my instruction that the knight has the 4502b Plume Feather Triple on his helmet. Nothing else.

The large and small feathers came with the set (on one sprue with the triple
feather), and are therefore needed for the complete set.


The triple feather is already included in the minifigure inventory:
 
Minifig No: cas172  Name: Breastplate - Armor over Black, Black Helmet, Dark Gray Visor, Red 3-Feather Plume
* 
cas172 (Inv) Breastplate - Armor over Black, Black Helmet, Dark Gray Visor, Red 3-Feather Plume
Minifigures: Castle: Black Knights
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In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:

[snip]

Reflecting on this one...

We've been successfully trading on here for 15 years and have seen, commented
on (and even complained about ) many poor (and some illegal) selling practices.
In all that time we've never had or even felt the need to have a sale.
Like everywhere else some sales are genuine opportunities to get a bargain but
most are not. I don't think it is possible without removing aspects of the
free market to regulate sales or descriptions of what constitutes a sale here,
there are too many variables. I think the vast majority of BL buyers are smart
enough to watch out for the small print as they have to with or without sales;
I think it is some of the ridiculous add-on charges themselves that are the problem
rather than the sales here. Complex fees are a turn off to buyers and maybe it
is many of those stores that resort to them that need to have sales to offset
the negative effect of them on orders. I'm not sure a fix is needed here
but if it is then perhaps the easiest way would be simply to remove the sales
feature altogether but I'm not suggesting that.

Plus individual buyers will see different things from sales posts. I often look
at them and I reckon I end up least favouriting more stores than I actually buy
from after following a "huge sale" link.
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In Suggestions, Tracyd writes:
  In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
  In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
  In Suggestions, firestar246 writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  When sales and promotions posts are made on the forum, please have sellers disclose
all of the fees and additional charges as part of the forum post.

It is presumably also an unfair business practice in other economies to not include
important information in a promotion. Negating a discount through fees is sort
of important information.

I'm not sure I understand... if all fees are disclosed on the store terms
page, why does a quick 5% off post need to have the fees included in it?

Are you included shipping charges in that statement?

@Jean: Good relevant request even though personally I structurally ignore all
those sales posts.

@Firestar:



  
  Because in at least one of the world's countries it is illegal not to explicitly
disclose this essential information in the advertisement itself. https://www.reclamecode.nl/nrc_taxonomy/algemeen/
#8.4 Disclosure of full address and all costs are deemed essential for distant
selling advertisements.

And indeed, if you advertise 5% off on everything, that must include the same
discount on shipping unless specified otherwise. If the discount is on the products
only, the sale post is in fact misleading,

  which is illegal as well. That means that the majority of sales posts here on Bricklink are in fact breaking the ToS to comply with the applicable laws.

No offense, but...

The global stage of commerce is not mandated by the EU nor by any other specific
region in the world!

How can any rational thought expect all of the world's economic laws and
regs concatenated, be adhered to in a single transaction? If such a thing were
actually attempted, it would cripple commerce with conflation and disaccord

Who wouldn't want to hand their personal business decisions over to unelected
bureaucrats of other nations Let's not go down that rabbit hole of which
nation's law/regs are to be adopted and to what extent, not yet anyway!

Laws, regulations and taxes on this side of the pond, are created by those we
elect or have chosen to represent our interest. Hopefully it's the
same for you and others.

My point is simple, be more reserved with such terms as "illegal" when applying
it to the actions other members, as some are wont to do here.

It's moot anyway, as the global path that BL/TLG takes and expresses in their
ToS contract, is what we've agreed to. It's the site that is threading
the needle, in other words.

-popsicle

I'd much rather the limit on "sales" post be enforced. You can't dictate
pricing but you can limit access to the forums for repeated, redundant sales
posts. But that doesn't cure the phony sales posts. One thing that might
help is having the country of the store shown on the subject line or by the
user name. Right now I am not ordering internationally and would like to be
able to ignore all notices that I am not interested in.

You can enforce it yourself. I have about a dozen or so stores that are both
least favourites stores and also on my forum ignore list due to excessive and/or
fake sale posts. And a lot more least favourite stores for fake sales. If someone
advertises a sale here and their prices are still above average for common items,
I add them to my least favourites. Chances are I wouldn't but from them anyway
but at least adding them stops them coming up in wants list searches.
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In Suggestions, bje writes:
  When sales and promotions posts are made on the forum, please have sellers disclose
all of the fees and additional charges as part of the forum post.

It is presumably also an unfair business practice in other economies to not include
important information in a promotion. Negating a discount through fees is sort
of important information.

I don't see the point, as many sales advertised here are false sales anyway.
So if you give a 7% discount and add on 8% for paypal for example, does it actually
matter when the seller does not have to say what the original prices are based
on? If they have to state they add on X for fees, they will avoid saying that
by increasing the base prices by the fee and then leaving out the statement.

Some stores have been doing Black Friday discounts on prices that they have recently
increased. I know this as I have open carts with a number of stores, and so I
can see that the in-cart prices have gone up even though they are offering a
25% discount.
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In Inventories Requests, scud80 writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 21011  Name: Brandenburg Gate
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21011-1 (Inv) Brandenburg Gate
363 Parts, 2011
Sets: Architecture

* Change 1 Part Black 4162pb065 Tile 1 x 8 with 'Brandenburger Tor' Pattern {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}

Comments from Submitter:
According to the part list in the English language instructions the set contains only 1 printed tile: "Black Tile 1 x 8 with 'Brandenburg Gate' Pattern".

Instructions are here: https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/6005323.pdf

The set came with both though, and that is what the inventory is.
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In Catalog Requests, MD14 writes:
  And once again as clearly defined in the name of the item Iconic Chess SET, this
more of a display set then a game. The current way it is listed makes it impossible
to properly sell this SET on bricklink.
Thanks
TrainMaster

If it was not LEGO, it would still be called a chess set. The name set does not
imply this is for display rather than for playing with. Moving just one game
from gear to sets would be confusing. They should move all brick based games,
or none.
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In Catalog Requests, MD14 writes:
  Set 40174 needs to be listed like a normal lego classic set. With proper entries
for SET, INSTRUCTIONS, EMPTY BOX. BTW this set is beautiful. This should definitely
not be listed in the "gear" category as if its some ninjago foam swords. Please
help do this set justice, would display beautifully next to the colosseum.
The current items for sale the way it is categorized are mostly customized attempts
to revert to traditional set-book-box entry style.
I suppose this set could be under theme ICONIC as there is many other sets branded
as this, Iconic picture frame, Iconic store front and such..
Thanks for your time.
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All the games are classified as gear. And yes, there have been requests that
parts based games be moved into sets but they remain as gear instead.
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In Catalog, BulbaNerd4000 writes:
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  Take
 
Part No: 12608pb01  Name: The Kraang, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with Lime Eyes Pattern
* 
12608pb01 The Kraang, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles with Lime Eyes Pattern
Parts: Animal, Land
The main antangonist of TMNT usually within his robot body
in the technodrome but still an important character. But I guess if you type
in Kraang you'll easily find him.

But
 
Minifig No: elf052  Name: Shadow Bat, Phyll (6213879)
* 
elf052 Shadow Bat, Phyll (6213879)
Minifigures: Elves

I looked at Animal Air for a few minutes before finding him in elves.
Look, I know 80s-90s kids shows but the deeper lore of some LEGO themes eludes
me. Couldn't we list him as "Bat with trans Pink wings(Phyll)" in animal
Air instead?

Even old Scooby-Doo doesn't have a Minifig entry
 
Part No: 21042pb01c01  Name: Dog, Great Dane Scooby-Doo Walking with Medium Azure Collar Pattern
* 
21042pb01c01 (Inv) Dog, Great Dane Scooby-Doo Walking with Medium Azure Collar Pattern
Parts: Animal, Land

This would make it easier for old guys like me who can't read up on all new
LEGo themes and their characters.

Christian

novabrick-team

Character based animals like these are a complete mess. None of them are minifigures
according to the LEGO descriptions.

Actually, the 2013 book LEGO Minifigure Year by Year: a Visual Dictionary states
that a minifigure must consist of the standard minifig parts, and shows that
figs like skeletons and mini dolls are not figures, as they do not use enough
regular figure parts to actually count as one.

Confusing, huh?

Not really on LEGO's side. LEGO's definitions are really quite clear,
at least for modern sets, as they state which characters in sets are minifigures
and which are not, using language like figures, characters, droids, etc when
they are not minifigures.

For example, Barracuda Bay: "The set has 8 minifigures including Captain Redbeard,
Lady Anchor, Robin Loot and twins Port and Starboard for pirate role-play action,
plus a shark, pig, 2 parrots, 3 crabs, 2 frogs and 2 skeleton figures.
"

They are also clear that C-3PO is a minifigure, and R2-D2 is not: "This immersive
build is a great way to relax and reconnect with your Star Wars passion. A Dewback
LEGO figure and 2 Landspeeders complete a wonderful display piece. Bring your
Tatooine scene to life with 21 LEGO minifigures, including Luke Skywalker, Han
Solo and C-3PO, new-for-October-2020 Ponda Baba, Garindan and Labria, plus an
R2-D2 LEGO droid figure
" (from the Cantina.)

It is BL's definitions that are confusing and inconsistent.
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  In Catalog, novabrick writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  Character based animals like these are a complete mess. None of them are minifigures
according to the LEGO descriptions.

Maybe the Catmins could look into sorting this mess then? Maybe another re categorization?

Christian

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Your catalogue experts had made some progress until the plug got pulled
See: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=170
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1192559

and a few other posts


Even then, it needs to be clearer. For example, this sentence ...

Animals - Animals, including pets with names, are not figures unless they
are characters or otherwise display exceptional behavior.


What does that mean? What is a character if not an a lifeform that is named?
An animal like Scooby Doo, he is a pet with a name, but surely he is also a character.
What about Santa's Little Help or Snowball II. Are they high enough billing
to be characters?

 
Minifig No: elf055  Name: Shadow Bat, Hippo (6214358)
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elf055 Shadow Bat, Hippo (6214358)
Minifigures: Elves
is named and therefore is a character in the Elves storyline.

If you give an animal a name, do they not become a character in whatever storyline
they appear in.

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