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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:16
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  […]
I’ll try to make a comparison picture….

Dang. I can’t: I only have the surface paint in black.

I have both versions of the chrome ones but there already is a comparison picture.

I note
 
Part No: 3010p31  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with White Legoland Logo Pattern
* 
3010p31 Brick 1 x 4 with White Legoland Logo Pattern
Parts: Brick, Decorated
exists in both versions: there’s a comparison picture but
only one part in the catalogue….
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:03
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

 
Part No: 3010pb036e  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
* 
3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated


If you actually are wondering about this part, the pattern is both embossed and
painted, while on
 
Part No: 3010pb036s  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
* 
3010pb036s Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated
it’s only painted.

I’ll try to make a comparison picture….
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 20, 2020 16:16
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6980-1
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In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:
  In Inventories Requests, anathema writes:

  The hose in my copy of the set is 77mm (slightly under 10 studs) in length.
There is no way to know if it's been cut down at some point, of course.

I've done some more investigation.

My hose is a different colour to the other 'classic hose' parts I have;
it also has a slightly smaller inner diameter, although it is still larger than
that of a genuine pneumatic hose.

So either there have been different types of hose used over the years (possible)
or else what I have is an aftermarket replacement.

Whichever it is, I'm inclined to believe that this set most likely only ever
shipped with a 12L hose.

Is it slightly transparent?

When I checked mine, there was a ~10L black one near them but only one and slightly
translucent. I compared it with the pneumatic hose from the same period I had
in another drawer and they match (so in the pneumatic drawer it went).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 19, 2020 11:37
 Subject: Re: More Variants Discovered
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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Fair point. But the same sets packaged in different factories or even at different
times in the same factory, or perhaps even at the same time in the same factory,
may contain different variants.

That other sets came out differently from the same (or not) factory at the same
time (or not) doesn’t change the fact that one set is as it was when it came
out of the factory.

All the sesterces are different, it doesn’t change the fact some of them can
be certified as being real antique coins from a certified time-period.


  I stand by my opinion that period-specificity is at least somewhat delusional.

If you’re “bricklinking” the set.
And it also depends on your value of “good enough”: Do you trace all the parts,
asserting they came from boxes the siblings of the set you’re bricklinking?
Or are you content with “we know these variants were made around that time”?


  
  So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.

True. But what does that even mean?

Well, you are the one who used the term


  […]
Because of the aforementioned variability in packaging for a given set, what
real meaning do the words "historically accurate" or "period-specific" even have?

There’s the same thing with cars: there are the “only original parts,” the “we
replaced some parts with others from the same manufacturer and period,” and the
“we used some 3D-printed parts” and so on. And some parts (chassis, engine…)
are more important than others (belts) and even on some important parts, some
modifications are allowed without removing value (remove rusted parts of the
body, weld some new bits).

There’s the same thing with all collectible items.

And the “meaning” of “historically accurate” or “period-specific” is not binary
(is / isn’t), it’s, like about every word, a gradation of what people agree it
is.
It can be discussed precisely, generally between a seller and a buyer, to translate
it in monetary value, but it’ll still be generally fuzzy.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 19, 2020 10:22
 Subject: Re: More Variants Discovered
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate.

Er, not exactly.
One’s owning the set since it was bought sealed and never having mixed its parts
allows one to say one’s copy is historically accurate.
Or any certified track of the set and its parts from the time it was bought sealed
allows the latest owner to say their copy is historically accurate.

So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.


   And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.

And the one who discovers a variant can’t even have the ego-boost of the variant
being named after them.
No “3961 stormchaserus” for you
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 18, 2020 06:20
 Subject: Re: Part 4345a vs 4345
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  […]
  
  
  
  seem to appear in sets up to 1992.

That would “1982”

What "would" 1982? I don't understand. The part appears in set 1896 from
1992 according to BL.

Sorry, I was a bit tired and the second time I read it, I thought it was “from”
(as I was correcting one typo, my mind was looking for “typos”).
Case in point: I didnt’t type “be.”
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 17, 2020 20:09
 Subject: Re: Parts Tracker
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In Suggestions, kkronk writes:
  […]
Personally, I have never used the "upload" feature for Lego Digital Designer,
so I cannot say if this feature already exists or not.

It does: Want | Upload accepts LDD, LDraw, Studio, or BrickStock formats (file
upload), or BL’s XML format (paste).


   Given that I am trying
to keep my build a secret, to a point, I did not use the "upload" feature, thinking
it may reveal my design.[…]

‘Want | Upload’ only uploads to a Wanted List.
There’s absolutely no reasons for BL to keep the temporarily uploaded design.
If you’re really frightened for your Super Duper model, you can always dismantle
your design (move all its parts haphazardly) before uploading it.


‘Want | Upload’’s totally unrelated to Studio’s “Gallery.”

Besides, even in Studio, there’s a Wanted List upload that doesn’t upload the
whole design, only the parts.



As for the rest, what you want is an inventory system for buyers.
There are many suggestions for this already….
Have been for years….
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 17, 2020 18:48
 Subject: Re: Part 4345a vs 4345
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In Inventories, SylvainLS writes:
  In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  
  Part
 
Part No: 4345  Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2
* 
4345 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2
Parts: Container
starts to consistently appear in sets from 1990, while
 
Part No: 4345a  Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs
* 
4345a Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs
Parts: Container
seem to appear in sets up to 1992.

That would “1982”

  
  
   Is it not strange then, that the latter is
not found in these sets:

 
Set No: 6848  Name: Interplanetary Shuttle
* 
6848-2 (Inv) Interplanetary Shuttle
47 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Space: Classic Space
from 1985
 
Set No: 6391  Name: Cargo Center
* 
6391-1 (Inv) Cargo Center
530 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1984
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Cargo
from 1984
 
Set No: 6882  Name: Walking Astro Grappler
* 
6882-1 (Inv) Walking Astro Grappler
87 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Space: Classic Space
from 1985

As a side note, Peeron claims that the solid studs are in those three sets.

/Jan

The only blue ones I have have solid studs.

They come from
 
Set No: 6882  Name: Walking Astro Grappler
* 
6882-1 (Inv) Walking Astro Grappler
87 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Space: Classic Space
 
Set No: 6930  Name: Space Supply Station
* 
6930-1 (Inv) Space Supply Station
185 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1983
Sets: Space: Classic Space
 
Set No: 6951  Name: Robot Command Center
* 
6951-1 (Inv) Robot Command Center
267 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1984
Sets: Space: Classic Space
 
Set No: 6980  Name: Galaxy Commander
* 
6980-1 (Inv) Galaxy Commander
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1983
Sets: Space: Classic Space

Old my old (letter)boxes have solid studs.

That would be “All.”

Request filed.
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 Posted: May 17, 2020 18:44
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 6882-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6882  Name: Walking Astro Grappler
* 
6882-1 (Inv) Walking Astro Grappler
87 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 2 Part 4345a Blue Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 2 Part Blue 4345 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}

Comments from Submitter:
From my old collection.
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 Posted: May 17, 2020 18:37
 Subject: Re: Part 4345a vs 4345
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  
  Part
 
Part No: 4345  Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2
* 
4345 Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2
Parts: Container
starts to consistently appear in sets from 1990, while
 
Part No: 4345a  Name: Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs
* 
4345a Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs
Parts: Container
seem to appear in sets up to 1992. Is it not strange then, that the latter is
not found in these sets:

 
Set No: 6848  Name: Interplanetary Shuttle
* 
6848-2 (Inv) Interplanetary Shuttle
47 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Space: Classic Space
from 1985
 
Set No: 6391  Name: Cargo Center
* 
6391-1 (Inv) Cargo Center
530 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1984
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Cargo
from 1984
 
Set No: 6882  Name: Walking Astro Grappler
* 
6882-1 (Inv) Walking Astro Grappler
87 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Space: Classic Space
from 1985

As a side note, Peeron claims that the solid studs are in those three sets.

/Jan

The only blue ones I have have solid studs.

They come from
 
Set No: 6882  Name: Walking Astro Grappler
* 
6882-1 (Inv) Walking Astro Grappler
87 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Space: Classic Space
 
Set No: 6930  Name: Space Supply Station
* 
6930-1 (Inv) Space Supply Station
185 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1983
Sets: Space: Classic Space
 
Set No: 6951  Name: Robot Command Center
* 
6951-1 (Inv) Robot Command Center
267 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1984
Sets: Space: Classic Space
 
Set No: 6980  Name: Galaxy Commander
* 
6980-1 (Inv) Galaxy Commander
412 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1983
Sets: Space: Classic Space

Old my old (letter)boxes have solid studs.

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