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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 21, 2020 15:11
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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yorbrick (1185)

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  As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.

This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.


  The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.

I don't care either way, but it would be very useful to know which legs are
dual molded (and so have the correct colours on the back of the legs) vs those
that are printed (and so have a single colour on the backs).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:16
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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SylvainLS (46)

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  […]
I’ll try to make a comparison picture….

Dang. I can’t: I only have the surface paint in black.

I have both versions of the chrome ones but there already is a comparison picture.

I note
 
Part No: 3010p31  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with White Legoland Logo Pattern
* 
3010p31 Brick 1 x 4 with White Legoland Logo Pattern
Parts: Brick, Decorated
exists in both versions: there’s a comparison picture but
only one part in the catalogue….
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:03
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  […]
Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

 
Part No: 3010pb036e  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
* 
3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated


If you actually are wondering about this part, the pattern is both embossed and
painted, while on
 
Part No: 3010pb036s  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
* 
3010pb036s Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated
it’s only painted.

I’ll try to make a comparison picture….
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:28
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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StormChaser (569)

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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
  I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.

As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.

This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.

Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:

 
Part No: 30566  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
* 
30566 Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
Parts: Tile, Modified

But sometimes we do:

 
Part No: bb0007c01pb01  Name: Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
* 
bb0007c01pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
Parts: Electric, Motor

Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

 
Part No: 3010pb036e  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
* 
3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated

Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479

The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
 Author: Miro78 View Messages Posted By Miro78
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:06
 Subject: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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Miro78 (2360)

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Should dual molded legs or arms in their respective assemblies really be considered
as decorated?
To me BL considered the decorated as by means of printing or applying decoration
using stickers.

example
 
Part No: 970c00pb0970  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
* 
970c00pb0970 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated

the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?
 
Part No: 970d46  Name: Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
* 
970d46 (Inv) Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
Parts: Minifigure, Legs

I feel the same way about dual molded arms
 
Part No: 973c83  Name: Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
* 
973c83 (Inv) Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

There are reasons for not separating them, mainly for new buyers not knowing
or caring about the difference or just the general way of looking at it, but
I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

Any thoughts?

Miro
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 20, 2020 12:03
 Subject: Re: Difference between keychain lights
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StormChaser (569)

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In Catalog, TheBohrok writes:
  I see. Mine would then fall under LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain since they
have the tag

Only if going by the catalog images. Technically, both existing catalog entries
are undetermined because the titles of each entry fail to specify the packaging
or the color of the items.

  I was thinking it might be better to merge them

I also think it would be better to merge them.
 Author: TheBohrok View Messages Posted By TheBohrok
 Posted: May 20, 2020 11:16
 Subject: Re: Difference between keychain lights
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TheBohrok (256)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, TheBohrok writes:
  Wondering if there's any significant difference between these two catalog
entries and if they should be separate:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?G=12853
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?G=kclight01

There are technically four items here:

1. Blue figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
2. Blue figure not packaged and sold with paper tag
3. Red figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
4. Red figure not packaged and sold with paper tag

For those four items there are two catalog entries:

1. Mini Torch Minifigure Flashlight Key Chain Classic
2. LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain

Neither catalog entry specifies the color of the figure or the type of packaging.
Since we're not being specific with either catalog entry, I agree that it
would probably be appropriate to merge the catalog entries.

I see. Mine would then fall under LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain since they
have the tag (and are also in an open polybag with an adhesive strip to "seal"
the bag). I was thinking it might be better to merge them in case an interested
buyer is only aware of one and not the other nearly identical entry and for sellers
to get more exposure (which would be my case ).
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 20, 2020 11:08
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In Catalog, TheBohrok writes:
  Wondering if there's any significant difference between these two catalog
entries and if they should be separate:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?G=12853
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?G=kclight01

There are technically four items here:

1. Blue figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
2. Blue figure not packaged and sold with paper tag
3. Red figure packaged and sold in cardboard box
4. Red figure not packaged and sold with paper tag

For those four items there are two catalog entries:

1. Mini Torch Minifigure Flashlight Key Chain Classic
2. LED Key Light Minifigure Key Chain

Neither catalog entry specifies the color of the figure or the type of packaging.
Since we're not being specific with either catalog entry, I agree that it
would probably be appropriate to merge the catalog entries.
 Author: TheBohrok View Messages Posted By TheBohrok
 Posted: May 20, 2020 10:55
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Wondering if there's any significant difference between these two catalog
entries and if they should be separate:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?G=12853
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?G=kclight01
 Author: toontexas View Messages Posted By toontexas
 Posted: May 20, 2020 09:52
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In Catalog, Biglesdug writes:
  In Catalog, opposingwinds writes:
  Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.



They are probably the same stores selling all their parts at 100%-200% market
value.

That's a bit rich from the seller of this part:
 

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