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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 17:11
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
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6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
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11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 21:33
 Subject: Re: Just a little something to BRIGHTEN your day
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In Colors, randyf writes:
  […]
More opinions means more agreement on what is better.

I’d prefer Opalescent but that’s my French brain speaking. Opal can do as a
short form.

Satin is “continuous,” smooth. Opal(escent) is “pailleté” (sequined/spangled)
(and milky).
The parts don’t look smooth as satin.
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 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 21:12
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In Colors, mfav writes:
  I'm tired,

So am I.
Maybe writing those long messages didn’t help.


   but it kind of seems like you're willing to cut Russell some
slack for being sloppy, but not extending the same courtesy to me.

Yes, because the Russell made a confusing metonymy while you discarded readily
available facts.
It’s a line in the sand but it’s a line nonetheless.


   Okay. I isn't perfeɔt.

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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 19:54
 Subject: Re: Just a little something to BRIGHTEN your day
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In Colors, mfav writes:
  Apologies, Sylvain.

It wasn’t about me, it was about the admins and Russell.
As much as I do poke at them when they do wrong or could do better, or when they
don’t do as I’d like , I think there’s a limit to uncandidness.


  I typically cut most or all of the quoted post because I figure if folks are
invested enough, they'll read the thread. I hate the posts where they are
187 messages long and the whole thing is quoted and quoted and quoted to the
point you can't find the current content.

I agree with that (and do it too) but that’s not what you did: You didn’t remove
the chaff, you removed the facts which, strangely, didn’t go with your story.

(And as you cut all I said, you could have directly answered to Teup’s message
and I would have just pointed you to my answer to Teup.)


  Not trying to poke you in les yeux or anything like that. Just saying that
satin is a finish, and if anyone's been paying attention, Russell said they
were calling the color satin (for now).

But they are not. They are calling them Satin White, Satin Trans-Light Blue
and Satin Trans-Dark Pink.

If you take this fact into account then you understantd that what Russell said
is a slip of the tongue, an abuse of language, or bad metonymy: he thought “finish”
(or even simply “colours”, because there are three) and said “colour”
instead.


  Satin is not a color. It is a fabric. And from the fabric, adopted a a term for
a finish in papers and other coatings.

And that’s exactly how it’s used by BL for colours.

And in the exact same way LEGO doesn’t call these colours “opal” but uses “opal”
as a qualifier for known colours (well, at least for two of them as we don’t
know the name of the white one).


  That is all.

Ditto.


And on a totally different note, the song “Eternally” by Charlie Chaplin/Geoffrey
Parsons is known as “Deux petits chaussons (de satin blanc)”/“Two Little sleepers
(in white satin)” in French (totally different lyrics).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 18:08
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In Colors, mfav writes:
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Satin is a finish.
[…]
If BrickLink is going to use "silk" as a color, then I'd like to suggest
burlap, corduroy, hemp, twigs, type two, and open O for future colors, because
they're also just as fun and useful. Hey! Everybody knows what color type
two is, right?

Most of your remarks on names and descriptions are very well founded, and I get
the comical device of exaggeration, but this, this’s just disingenuous: You
cut my answer where the BL colour names were listed, colour names in which Satin
is clearly used a modificator (“finish”) of other, known and common colours,
White, Trans-Light Blue, and Trans-Dark Pink, and then you go on to imply BL
wants to use Satin as a colour and not a finish.
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 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 15:30
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In Colors, Teup writes:
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Hmm in my understanding, "satin" refers to the way a colour looks (like matte,
glossy, metallic) and not to any specific actual colour. Not sure if I'm
right, but Opal certainly sounds a lot better to me.

Indeed, that’s why the new colours are:

Satin White
Satin Trans-Light Blue
Satin Trans-Dark Pink

for BL while they are, respectively,

(Unnamed)
Tarnsparent Blue Opal
Transparent Medium Reddish Violet Opal

for LEGO.
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 Posted: Mar 19, 2020 13:47
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In Colors, Bendix writes:
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If you buy more than one you`ll recognize they look different - maybe depending
on the thickness of the coating or a slightly different kind of coating? It`s
not caused by the incidence of light.

Did you notice the logo orientation / chain attachment correlates with the iridescence?

(That is both bricks with “top” chain are more iridescent than the ones with
“bottom” chain.)
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 Posted: Mar 17, 2020 19:08
 Subject: Re: Question about part x168
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  […]
However, if LDraw
still uses some "x" numbers, it would be wise to retain them.

LDraw doesn’t use “x” numbers. They use “u” numbers, and they get rid of them
as soon as the correct ID is known.

So, rid away with the “x”!


As for aliases, they make alias files (their descriptions start with a “=”).
So that takes care of that.
Now, their patterns numbers are not compatible with BL’s. So this would be a
bigger problem, except, now, the BL ID is often put as keywords (inside the file
but searchable in some CADs or simply with a grep).
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 Posted: Mar 16, 2020 12:07
 Subject: Re: Question about part x168
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In Catalog, edeevo writes:
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I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... […]

Nah, items have a fixed, internal ID in the database, that ID doesn’t change.
The part ID is just another description, shorter and unique.

Think about when they add a digit to the numbered minifigs (bla001 becoming bla0001).
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 Posted: Mar 14, 2020 17:55
 Subject: Re: Silly to Consider This Sprue a Part?
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I apologize for the quick lo-res pic, but I think a lot of people are familiar
with this piece. It's the sprue from [p=19807c01]. And it IS just a sprue.
But I was looking it over today before tossing it in the trash and it is a pretty
neat looking piece AND it was obviously designed with some play value, because
it fits on a stud. It has never been used in a set, I believe, but it is easy
for me to imagine it being useful in MOCs. Would it be silly to add it to the
catalog?

I think it would be fine in the catalog, although I'm sure there are others
who would oppose it. Are there other sprue-only entries in the catalog?

It would at least limit the number of people not finding it in the catalogue.

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