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 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:54
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popsicle (6659)

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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  Yes, the authentic LEGO portion is crucial. There are so many creative ways to
use preexisting figure pieces. It would be fun to browse people's ideas,
and then have an easy option to add those pieces to my Wanted List.

Agreed.

  
Thank you Cory for your support!

It's a great idea! You present the case for it, well.

btw, I like the tribute to Dr. Charles Drew in your username
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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I agree it would generate sales. Generic, unwanted pieces could find a valuable
place in purist customs. I've spent hours searching bricklink for parts I
have a picture of because I want to copy someone else's figure design.

There would definitely need to be a way to sort through figures based on certain
themes. Maybe even a way to sort by popular figures that people are adding to
their Wanted List.

Appreciate the support.
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:45
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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I don't think users would need the ability to download digital copies of
the minifigures.
They just need the ability to view the parts list (just like we have with official
figures). And the ability to "add all parts" to their Wanted list. Nobody is
downloading designs or selling figures. Just a place to share combinations of
existing official pieces, and add those pieces to a Wanted list.
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:41
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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I don't get it. The LEGO brand is saturated with a huge variety of outside
IP. LegoIdeas, MOCs, BrickLink Studio. I don't think what I'm proposing
is that different from what currently exists.
 Author: cycbuild View Messages Posted By cycbuild
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:39
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  I would like a Purist Custom Figures catalog. People can submit pictures, descriptions,
and links to specific components. Buyers can click "add all to wanted list".
Picture Source: Reddit User pumpkinsunrise

That kind of convenience would surely generate sales, but you'd have to find
a site that allows themes otherwise it'd be a total nightmare to navigate
through generically named designs.

Rebrickable has a catalog that allows themes, but a search for minifigures only
shows minifig-scale MOCs. Lovely idea though.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:26
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  A search of "Star Wars", "Marvel" and "Harry Potter" bring up designs in Studio
Gallery.

And none of them is downloadable. They are all “Display only.”


   I don't see what why this would be so different.

Exactly.
How would your suggestion work without the ability to download the list of parts
(or put it in a WL)?
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:26
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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
  In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  Would it be a violation of IP if it's a preexisting license under LEGO?

Yes.
Look at what’s happening (and what’s said) for the Studio Gallery.

You'd think they'd realize that customs add interest to the theme and
product and might lead to more sales, both on BL and lego's website.

"Cool ghosts, now I need to buy castle set so I have a place for them to exist
and I better buy some spare parts to make my castle bigger."

But no, all the [m=cas094](s) in charge veto anything that even smells like IP.
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:23
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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Yes, the authentic LEGO portion is crucial. There are so many creative ways to
use preexisting figure pieces. It would be fun to browse people's ideas,
and then have an easy option to add those pieces to my Wanted List.

Thank you Cory for your support!
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:20
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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I suppose someone could submit a photo that uses non-purist parts (even though
the rules would specify "official LEGO components only". But if the hair color/style
wasn't available in that color, the system would limit the selection to existing
components.
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
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A search of "Star Wars", "Marvel" and "Harry Potter" bring up designs in Studio
Gallery. I don't see what why this would be so different.
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  It wouldn't be a comprehensive list of every combination of Minifigure components.
Users would submit their figure, and then there would be a list of components
that correspond to the appropriate official pieces within the market. I hope
that makes sense.

This would work well at the beginning, then someone would modify a minifig changing
the hair color or hair style. This would create a new catalog item. Repeat
this over time and then there are 1000+ custom minifigs. After more time there
are 10,000+ and so forth. At a certain point the entire catalog becomes useless
and impossible to manage because there so many custom minifigs it is difficult
to find the correct one.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:08
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  I would like a Purist Custom Figures catalog. People can submit pictures, descriptions,
and links to specific components. Buyers can click "add all to wanted list".
Picture Source: Reddit User pumpkinsunrise

I like the idea very much, contingent to (as you've put forward) all parts
are authentic LEGO.

It would entail more site work and details to be worked-out, but just might be
well worth the new excitement created for the LEGO minifigure on this site. Help
stimulate the sale numbers of what is a good portion of overall LEGO sales.

Vote yes!

-Cory
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 11, 2020 13:02
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  Would it be a violation of IP if it's a preexisting license under LEGO?

Yes.
Look at what’s happening (and what’s said) for the Studio Gallery.


  I'm not a lawyer, but I wouldn't think so.

IANAL either but it has already been ruled a violation on the Gallery.


  But as mentioned bellow, these would
fall under MOCs, which I believe are free use.

I believe you have to think again.
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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It wouldn't be a comprehensive list of every combination of Minifigure components.
Users would submit their figure, and then there would be a list of components
that correspond to the appropriate official pieces within the market. I hope
that makes sense.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  Wouldn't the part inventory just correspond with the official parts listed
in the Market? Just like official figures, you'd click on the figure and
see what the components are and what figures and sets they come from.

There is an almost infinite number of combinations of headgear / heads / torso
assemblies and legs. They cannot all be added and if they were, then they end
up being useless as you cannot possibly view them all.
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
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Wouldn't the part inventory just correspond with the official parts listed
in the Market? Just like official figures, you'd click on the figure and
see what the components are and what figures and sets they come from.
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  Would it be a violation of IP if it's a preexisting license under LEGO? I'm
not a lawyer, but I wouldn't think so. But as mentioned bellow, these would
fall under MOCs, which I believe are free use.

+1
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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Yes, it would essentially be minifig-only MOCs. The MOC Shope really is dedicated
to builds, and even then doesn't have a components list.
The Studio Gallery is limited to the digital components available, but at least
it hs a list.
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  I would like a Purist Custom Figures catalog. People can submit pictures, descriptions,
and links to specific components. Buyers can click "add all to wanted list".
Picture Source: Reddit User pumpkinsunrise

This looks like a administrative nightmare for those maintaining the "Purist
Custom Figures" catalog. Endless submissions with endless part inventories and
alternative parts.
 Author: DrDrewBlood View Messages Posted By DrDrewBlood
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Would it be a violation of IP if it's a preexisting license under LEGO? I'm
not a lawyer, but I wouldn't think so. But as mentioned bellow, these would
fall under MOCs, which I believe are free use.
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In Suggestions, starbeanie writes:
  except those appear to be Harry Potter ghosts which violates IP rights

In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  It would be a completely separate section to avoid confusion, no non-official
pieces, and no selling. It would just be a way for people to share ideas, and
for others to add components to their wishlist. I think this avoids all of the
issues surrounding BrickArms.

And it would be exactly like any other MOC, just minifig-only MOCs, and for that
there already are the MOC Shop (haha) and the Studio Gallery.
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except those appear to be Harry Potter ghosts which violates IP rights

In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  It would be a completely separate section to avoid confusion, no non-official
pieces, and no selling. It would just be a way for people to share ideas, and
for others to add components to their wishlist. I think this avoids all of the
issues surrounding BrickArms.
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DrDrewBlood (59)

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It would be a completely separate section to avoid confusion, no non-official
pieces, and no selling. It would just be a way for people to share ideas, and
for others to add components to their wishlist. I think this avoids all of the
issues surrounding BrickArms.
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In Suggestions, DrDrewBlood writes:
  I would like a Purist Custom Figures catalog.

The likelihood of adding anything to the catalog that is not an official LEGO
product is almost 0%. Adding BrickArms products was an absolute disaster and
now that the site is a wholly-owned subsidiary of TLG I would not expect that
disaster to be repeated.
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I would like a Purist Custom Figures catalog. People can submit pictures, descriptions,
and links to specific components. Buyers can click "add all to wanted list".
Picture Source: Reddit User pumpkinsunrise
 

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