Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | chetzler  | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 11:39 | | Subject: | Please include Tax field when download orders | | Viewed: | 120 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
| I recently dowloaded my orders in Excel format here:
https://www.bricklink.com/orderExcel.asp?orderType=received
I've done this before but I am now making a concerted effort to import this
into my own database primarily for tax purposes. I just realized that the process
imports every field except for Tax. Surely this was an oversight since the tax
field was added later. However it is frustrating because it means I still have
to manually search out every Minnesota order manually to calculate my total 2019
sales tax collected.
Surely this will be an easy fix and it can be corrected promptly!
Thank you,
-Chris
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 11:33 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
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That is absolutely false. From BrickLink guidelines for what should be included
in the Regular Items section of an inventory:
"Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models plus
any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official parts
list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the packaging
are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section."
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| | In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The printed parts list is the only thing that matters.
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That is absolutely false. From the Standards for Inventorying a Set section,
which explicitly states that the source of an inventory should be a physical
copy of a set:
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You have forgotten to boldface plus any other parts on the official parts
list.
Since there will be no parts in the building instructions that are not also on
the parts list, the parts list is all that matters.
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"You should have a physical copy of the set you are inventorying to properly
identify the parts and colors. When this is not possible for old or rare sets,
then it is acceptable to use the instructions, set picture, or parts list (sometimes
printed on the box or in the instructions) to complete the inventory."
I hope the following sentence clears the confusion:
BrickLink inventories are based on what actually came in the box or bag.
Parts lists have errors. Set photos have errors. Building instructions have
errors. You like the idea of simple, straightforward, commonsense guidelines,
Don. Well, the sentence in bold text above is as simple and as sensible as you
can possibly get and you should applaud this if you stand behind your principles.
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As I have pointed out elsewhere, packing a lot of vagueness into a short statement
does not make it more simple. "Based on" is the slippery term, here.
You are playing fast and loose with the definition of "inventory." The discussion
here is not about the complete inventory page, but in what section the parts
appear within that inventory. Nobody disputes that if three darts came in the
box, three darts should appear somewhere on the inventory page for the set. However
as is demonstrated by the existence of this thread, there are many people who
have come to understand that the regular section represents only the parts included
in the building instructions. For purposes of classifying parts within the inventory,
the building instructions do not matter.
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I understand and have participated in the debate about how to best represent
what came in the box or bag, but saying that BrickLink bases inventories on the
parts list only and that inventories are not based on the building instructions
at all is spreading misinformation.
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I disagree. The building instructions are not used to determine whether a part
is in the Extras sections or the Regular section. The parts list is used for
this determination. The building instructions do not matter.
Where the building instructions do matter is in the determination of a
"complete" set. Unfortunately, since the fairly recent romp through the inventories,
Bricklink is no longer a reference point for this information. It is now up to
each individual seller to verify their own complete set listing against the building
instructions. It takes about thirty seconds to amass thousands of listings for
used, complete sets with the remarks that they do not include the "extras." What
sellers almost always mean by "extras" is "the parts listed in the Extras section
of the inventory."
The admins know this, but the official response is, well, you know, it says at
the bottom of the page the inventory is just a guide, so, you know, let's
just pretend that our actions have no consequences and make with the change requests.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 10:48 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
|
That is absolutely false. From BrickLink guidelines for what should be included
in the Regular Items section of an inventory:
"Parts required to build the main model and any secondary models plus
any other parts on the official parts list. In the absence of an official parts
list, the official parts count, the instructions, and/or images on the packaging
are used to determine as closely as possible the contents of this section."
In Inventories, 62Bricks writes:
| | The printed parts list is the only thing that matters.
|
That is absolutely false. From the Standards for Inventorying a Set section,
which explicitly states that the source of an inventory should be a physical
copy of a set:
"You should have a physical copy of the set you are inventorying to properly
identify the parts and colors. When this is not possible for old or rare sets,
then it is acceptable to use the instructions, set picture, or parts list (sometimes
printed on the box or in the instructions) to complete the inventory."
I hope the following sentence clears the confusion:
BrickLink inventories are based on what actually came in the box or bag.
Parts lists have errors. Set photos have errors. Building instructions have
errors. You like the idea of simple, straightforward, commonsense guidelines,
Don. Well, the sentence in bold text above is as simple and as sensible as you
can possibly get and you should applaud this if you stand behind your principles.
I understand and have participated in the debate about how to best represent
what came in the box or bag, but saying that BrickLink bases inventories on the
parts list only and that inventories are not based on the building instructions
at all is spreading misinformation.
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
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Bricklink set inventories are not based on the building instructions at all.
The printed parts list is the only thing that matters. It is a widespread misunderstanding
that the regular section of the inventory lists the parts needed to complete
the set according to the instructions.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 07:43 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60020-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} {Counterpart to Regular}
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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Another one where 3794 should not be deleted but changed to 3794a. First, 3794
was added as an alternate indicating that it was intended to be 3794a. And second,
this screenshot from a video review clearly shows 3794a.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 07:34 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60025-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 3 Part 3794b Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 5 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 3 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 5 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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Part 3794 in red should not be removed from this set. It should be changed to
3794a because both variants were found in this set. Several video reviews of
the set show 3794a. Included a screenshot from one of them that clearly shows
it.
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 04:39 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60042-1 | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | Dino | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 03:40 | | Subject: | Re: Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| In Inventories, foxweasle writes:
| | I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
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All three are listed. But only two were used. There is no place for the third
one.
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| Author: | foxweasle | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 02:52 | | Subject: | Set 75248 Inventory Awareness | | Viewed: | 191 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
| I thought I would post this Discussion to bring to the members awareness of a
possible misinterpretation of the Inventory list of Set 75248 Star Wars Resistance
A-Wing Starfighter. The inventory is listed correct as I see it. I just opened
a sealed complete set and confirmed the Inventory. The only Item in Question
is Part 15303 Trans-Red Bar 8L with round End (Spring Shooter Dart). In the Instructions
it does show 3 Items are used but only 2 are actually used in the set. At first
I would think the 3rd piece would be considered an extra part, but since all
three are listed in step 101 the last Instruction step. The Inventory should
remain unchanged.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 02:35 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 60178-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, TuffyJCW writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 6239 Black Tail Shuttle (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
There is no entry in inventory for the 6239 Tail Decorated with sticker #2 and #6.
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First you must add the items to the catalog here:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp
Then add images here:
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogImageAdd.page
Once the new items are approved, then you may add them to the inventory of this
set.
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| Author: | TakeAbricK | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 01:01 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
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The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
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It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.
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And since it's one and the same company, they have the same software, which
probably sync both inventories at the same time.
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2020 00:15 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, BasKrie writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, Yogi_007 writes:
| | Hi All,
Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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The item doesn't show up in the items for sale.
I guess the Price Guide isn't shown in Real Time.
Maybe the items are in void of the payment process.
|
The items do show up in the items for sale
New (0) AFOL Supply (47562)
Netherlands
Min Buy: None EUR 7.21
(EUR 7.21)
New (0) Kentuckiana Bricks (27276)
USA
Min Buy: None EUR 5.86
(US $6.52)
These to sellers have a lot of zero quantity items.
It came up before in the forum (https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=260269)
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It may have to do with the software they use to upload and sync their inventory.
This shouldn't be possible, however. Zero QTY lots should only be retained
in a stockroom.
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| Author: | CamelCityBH | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 22:50 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60178-1 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 6239 Black Tail Shuttle (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
There is no entry in inventory for the 6239 Tail Decorated with sticker #2 and #6.
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| Author: | Yogi_007 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 21:01 | | Subject: | Re: catalogue problem - zero lots showing up | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | Ive been looking for through the catalogue for various parts and have found that
| | some lots are coming up as zero available but still showing up for sale.
I was looking at 3700 technic 1x2 brick in dark green last week and the stores
showed up with zero in stock in the catalogue. I checked again today and all
resolved.
I then looked at orange part 6005 and same thing.
Whats going on ??
Seems off to me or is it related to these rarer parts ?
Help please
Yogi
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Some statistics of average price, total sold, total available et cetera are calculated
during the daily maintenance and hence may differ slightly from the actual items
for sale. This especially shows for rare items that have just been sold or added
to inventories.
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Ive just checked the same part again today and same issue. So its not the updating
of daily maintenance.
Admin - another bug ?
Yogi
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| Author: | Tom_a_Jerry | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 18:38 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75194-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 58176 Trans-Red Bar with Light Cover (Bulb) / Bionicle Barraki Eye (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Hi, I've built this set from a sealed box and found one extra part not displayed in the inventory, so I'm reporting it. 
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| Author: | Mortimer | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 18:28 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76073-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4624 Light Bluish Gray Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
From MISB set.
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| Author: | BigHero6 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 14:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory 7730 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| Thank You for Your Answer. I have read it, but it was not plausible to me. But
now it is clear. It listet all the parts from Both Sets. So there are 31.
Thank You again.
In Inventories, FreeStorm writes:
| | In Inventories, BigHero6 writes:
| | Hello, I have two Questions about the Inventory of the set 7730.
1. There are different Inventory-List in the Internet. Was there really a Cable
inside the box? Light Gray Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors,
96 Studs Long
2. At the alternative Items there are 31 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting
Rail Curved But must it nor be 15?
Thanks for the Answers
Is there anybody, who haves a picture of the Box Backside and Inside?
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Hello,
I think the the answer for you 2nd question is on the note at the bottom of Inventory:
Regarding the curved conducting rails included in this set, the timeline for
inclusion in sets is believed to be as follows:
1980: 16 of part 3241b Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved without Cable
Connection Holes shown in the Regular Items section
1981: 16 of part 3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved shown in the
Alternate Items section
1982: 15 of part 3241 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, 1 of part
3241c Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free and 1 of part
117983a Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 shown in the
Alternate Items section
-Fred
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| Author: | BigHero6 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 14:42 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory 7730 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
| Thank You so much. That helps a lot! I am new here at the forum. I took my old
LEGO from the 80's from my Brother. And now I try to find out, what was in
the Set and what not.
Again. Thank You.
In Inventories, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories, BigHero6 writes:
| | Hello, I have two Questions about the Inventory of the set 7730.
1. There are different Inventory-List in the Internet. Was there really a Cable
inside the box? Light Gray Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with four 1-prong connectors,
96 Studs Long
2. At the alternative Items there are 31 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting
Rail Curved But must it nor be 15?
Thanks for the Answers
Is there anybody, who haves a picture of the Box Backside and Inside?
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The most accurate inventory for this train and other vintage trains (and most
other vintage sets) is Bricklink.
Concerning the wire, see the discussion and the photos on the bottom of this
page:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=234421
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:19 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60020-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 2 Part 3794 Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 4 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} {Counterpart to Regular}
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:14 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60026-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:09 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60025-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 3 Part 3794b Red Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 5 Part Black {51011u Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - (Undetermined Version) to 92409 Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread}
* Change 3 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794b Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 5 Part Light Bluish Gray {42610c01 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5 x 6 Shallow Staggered Treads (42610 / 51011u) to 42610c03 Wheel 11mm D. x 8mm with Center Groove with Black Tire 17.5mm D. x 6mm with Shallow Staggered Treads - Band Around Center of Tread (42610 / 92409)} (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
source: part out sets and own collection
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 13:08 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, 62Bricks writes:
| | This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
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So you believe that a set inventory should contain only the parts required to
construct the set per instructions and anything else included in the box should
be considered an extra? I'm not asking to argue, but just to understand
your position.
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This is already Bricklink's position. A complete set is one that includes
all the parts required to construct the set per instructions. It's not my
opinion, it's Bricklink's definition. And despite Russell's claims
to the contrary, it has been the de facto practice on Bricklink that the
regular parts section represents the complete set. Anyone who claims that this
was not the case (or that it is still not the case) is making excuses,
I believe.
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And how does your vision align with that significant fraction of sets which included
no building instructions? How would we address those sets without rules and
exceptions, to which you're mildly allergic?
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Again, Bricklink's current definition of a complete set is based on the instructions
and the current policy for sets without them already applies.
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If the site has removed certain information, such as what is required to build
the set, it has added other information: exactly what comes in a new box.
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Again with the horses, it is possible to have an inventory both ways. Just needs
additional inventory functionality that doesn't rely so heavily on "sections."
And yes, I'm aware that you disagree with that. But since we've trotted
out our horses, I'm gonna abuse mine a little, too.
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No, additional inventory functionality is not required to have it both
ways. In the case of plumes and other parts on sprues:
- Those needed to complete the set according to the instructions go in the regular
section as individual parts.
- Those not needed go in the extras section as individual parts
- The sprue part goes in the counterparts.
That preserves all of the historical information, eliminates the current contradiction
between the definitions of regular parts and complete sets, and as an added bonus
makes freaking sense.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, 62Bricks writes:
| | This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
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So you believe that a set inventory should contain only the parts required to
construct the set per instructions and anything else included in the box should
be considered an extra? I'm not asking to argue, but just to understand
your position.
And how does your vision align with that significant fraction of sets which included
no building instructions? How would we address those sets without rules and
exceptions, to which you're mildly allergic?
If the site has removed certain information, such as what is required to build
the set, it has added other information: exactly what comes in a new box.
Again with the horses, it is possible to have an inventory both ways. Just needs
additional inventory functionality that doesn't rely so heavily on "sections."
And yes, I'm aware that you disagree with that. But since we've trotted
out our horses, I'm gonna abuse mine a little, too.
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What if there were:
— Main or Build (parts used to build the main model)
— Regulars (parts always included in the set)
— Extras (supernumerary parts)
?
And then:
(— Incomplete)
— Complete for main model only
— Complete for all models
— Complete with extras
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, 62Bricks writes:
| | This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
|
So you believe that a set inventory should contain only the parts required to
construct the set per instructions and anything else included in the box should
be considered an extra? I'm not asking to argue, but just to understand
your position.
And how does your vision align with that significant fraction of sets which included
no building instructions? How would we address those sets without rules and
exceptions, to which you're mildly allergic?
If the site has removed certain information, such as what is required to build
the set, it has added other information: exactly what comes in a new box.
Again with the horses, it is possible to have an inventory both ways. Just needs
additional inventory functionality that doesn't rely so heavily on "sections."
And yes, I'm aware that you disagree with that. But since we've trotted
out our horses, I'm gonna abuse mine a little, too.
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| Author: | 62Bricks | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2020 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6274-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Since we cannot add it to the regular section, I guess we can still have it in
the counterpart section.
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The definition of counterparts:
Counterparts - Parts which are either assembled from or permanently
changed from parts in the Regular Items section during the process of building
a set according to the instructions. Examples include parts with stickers applied
and cut pneumatic hoses. In the absence of instructions, exceptions may be made.
Refer to Additional Information About Counterparts for further details.
Parts on sprues are addressed in the Additional Information About Regular Items
section here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562
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Another chance to flog this horse.
Some of these plumes are quite expensive: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=4502a&colorID=11
The misguided policy that says all parts on sprues are now regular items means
that many of these plumes that were formerly considered "extras" and therefore
not required to be included in a "complete" set are now required per the Bricklink
policies.
$15-$20 is a significant difference in value.
And these changes have resulted in several listings like the ones below, which
were listed correctly as "complete" under the old policy, but which are now incorrect.
One wonders how many of the "complete" sets that do not have any comments also
do not include the former "extras."
This set sells used, complete, for around the same price as one of the small
black plumes alone.
This policy has removed historical information from the site (the information
about which parts are needed to build the set according to the instructions)
and has created the potential for real confusion and unhappiness between buyers
and sellers (Where's the black plume that Bricklink says should be included?).
It is a bad policy.
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