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 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
 Posted: Jan 11, 2020 08:29
 Subject: Re: Ability to identify parts for a specific set
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62Bricks (1455)

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In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, HillbillyBricks writes:
  How can you get a list of parts that you have in your inventory for a specific
set.

On your My Inventory page in the extra options Search My Inventory you can enter
a set number.

  In the price guide it will tell you how many parts you have in inventory
for a set. I want to knw what those parts are.

Check the option Show Items in My Inventory to see if you've got the items
in your inventory on the Catalog page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P

We used to have the ability to do this with a shop's listings, too. You could
see what parts from a set were for sale at any shop. That feature broke when
the site was redesigned and has not been fixed. It would be nice to have it back.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jan 11, 2020 05:17
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Brickwilbo (1534)

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In Suggestions, HillbillyBricks writes:
  How can you get a list of parts that you have in your inventory for a specific
set.

On your My Inventory page in the extra options Search My Inventory you can enter
a set number.

  In the price guide it will tell you how many parts you have in inventory
for a set. I want to knw what those parts are.

Check the option Show Items in My Inventory to see if you've got the items
in your inventory on the Catalog page:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P
 Author: HillbillyBricks View Messages Posted By HillbillyBricks
 Posted: Jan 11, 2020 04:37
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HillbillyBricks (4163)

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How can you get a list of parts that you have in your inventory for a specific
set. In the price guide it will tell you how many parts you have in inventory
for a set. I want to knw what those parts are.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jan 9, 2020 01:28
 Subject: Re: Search for parts from favourite sellers
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Brickwilbo (1534)

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In Suggestions, nzcam writes:
  Via check-box option, It would be very handy to be able to restrict part searches
to just those sellers included in your favourite list, and separately to this,
those sellers you have open carts with.

This would be useful when adding to existing open orders (to save on shipping
or small batch orders) - If I know I'm already going to be placing orders
with Sellers A, B, C, & F, and I realise I need some more of a particular part,
being able to see which of those sellers have that part and what they're
chargning for it, is useful since I don't need to go back out to the wider
market (and shipping cost), AND I don't need to go to each open seller's
Store to search on them individually. One search does the trick.

Here you can Sort your Favourite sellers on top:
https://www.bricklink.com/wantedSettings.asp?viewFrom=P
 Author: nzcam View Messages Posted By nzcam
 Posted: Jan 8, 2020 21:45
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nzcam (41)

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Via check-box option, It would be very handy to be able to restrict part searches
to just those sellers included in your favourite list, and separately to this,
those sellers you have open carts with.

This would be useful when adding to existing open orders (to save on shipping
or small batch orders) - If I know I'm already going to be placing orders
with Sellers A, B, C, & F, and I realise I need some more of a particular part,
being able to see which of those sellers have that part and what they're
chargning for it, is useful since I don't need to go back out to the wider
market (and shipping cost), AND I don't need to go to each open seller's
Store to search on them individually. One search does the trick.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Jan 7, 2020 10:29
 Subject: Re: New Payment Method
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In Suggestions, LaygoAdelaide writes:
  Would it be possible to add another payment method.
Afterpay
Zip Pay
or at least have a blank one so that we can input our own custom method.

+1^google
Actually add a few blank ones, make it country specific with country specific
shipping methods and allow for direct QR codes and links. Or better yet - just
allow sellers in countries other than the USA to also use payment methods that
are relevant to their own circumstances even if it is miles ahead of what is
avaialable in the USA. If we can have onsite payments for paypal and stripe,
there should be no earthly reason for other methods not to be enabled as well.
 Author: bb75359 View Messages Posted By bb75359
 Posted: Jan 7, 2020 09:41
 Subject: New Payment Method
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Would it be possible to add another payment method.
Afterpay
Zip Pay
or at least have a blank one so that we can input our own custom method.
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Jan 7, 2020 06:30
 Subject: Re: Ability to search through order history
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Brickwilbo (1534)

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In Suggestions, badlego writes:
  In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  In Suggestions, badlego writes:
  to enable me to see what I've already purchased, it would be good to search
my completed orders.

It already exists.
On your orders placed page, click on "Find Orders"

thank you. I was hoping to search through my entire order history but this is
a good start. I have tried searching for a recent item by minifigure reference
number.

Maybe it's possible to download old data, the same as with old purged received
orders.
 Author: badlego View Messages Posted By badlego
 Posted: Jan 7, 2020 03:25
 Subject: Re: Ability to search through order history
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badlego (214)

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  In Suggestions, badlego writes:
  to enable me to see what I've already purchased, it would be good to search
my completed orders.

It already exists.
On your orders placed page, click on "Find Orders"

Although that only works for orders that have not been purged - so six months.
An alternative is to search through emails for past orders, although part numbers
are missing in favour of names.


thank you, I had hoped to see historic orders too as I've been buying for
years and want to avoid buying duplicate figures without searching through my
collection. maybe I need an inventory of items I own.
 Author: badlego View Messages Posted By badlego
 Posted: Jan 7, 2020 03:23
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badlego (214)

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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  In Suggestions, badlego writes:
  to enable me to see what I've already purchased, it would be good to search
my completed orders.

It already exists.
On your orders placed page, click on "Find Orders"

thank you. I was hoping to search through my entire order history but this is
a good start. I have tried searching for a recent item by minifigure reference
number.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 6, 2020 14:49
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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  In Suggestions, badlego writes:
  to enable me to see what I've already purchased, it would be good to search
my completed orders.

It already exists.
On your orders placed page, click on "Find Orders"

Although that only works for orders that have not been purged - so six months.
An alternative is to search through emails for past orders, although part numbers
are missing in favour of names.
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Jan 6, 2020 12:17
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Brick.Door (7521)

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In Suggestions, badlego writes:
  to enable me to see what I've already purchased, it would be good to search
my completed orders.

It already exists.
On your orders placed page, click on "Find Orders"
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 Posted: Jan 6, 2020 11:28
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to enable me to see what I've already purchased, it would be good to search
my completed orders.
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Jan 5, 2020 16:58
 Subject: Brand Identification stickers
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cosmicray (3492)

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One of the things that BrickLink needs, is better brand identification in the
larger community of potential buyers. It occurs to me that one way to work towards
this goal is to have BL logo stickers (I.e. The same icon contains the smiling
yellow face 2x2 brick logo). This type of sticker has been used by Apple, in
that one is included with every Apple product. Over the past ~20 years it has
been a white Apple with a bite missing, white the original incarnation was a
6-color Apple.

Our new benevolent overlords have extensive experience in producing stickers,
and presumably they have access to the ability to produce large quantities, that
we (the sellers) could include one with each order. Eventually, you would start
seeing them stuck on laptops and the rear windows of vehicles. Free advertising
for BL !

Thank you for your support.
Nita Rae
 Author: metropolis1927 View Messages Posted By metropolis1927
 Posted: Jan 4, 2020 13:34
 Subject: Re: Show item quantity on catalog item page!
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Thank you calsbricks! It works, in settings change to Items. See pics.
Cheers,
Marko

In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, mfav writes:
  This isn't it?

Hi Mark

Not sure which is the answer. If he goes to settings as I implied he will have
the ability to change the no of lots to no of items, but doing it as you have
shown shows both the lots and then below but I am not an 'ex' Pert we
will let him choose. .
 


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 Posted: Jan 3, 2020 14:31
 Subject: Stop auto-switch "top banners" on homepage
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Adding changing/moving banners makes me nervous and feels like random ads and
topics on tabloid sites that want to desperately generate clicks. Please, this
is not a site for hyperactive children used to fast cut youtube videos who might
think this is a good idea. Keep still images on Bricklink and put everything
that moves to the main Lego.com site, which can't be made worse anyway. Thanks.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Jan 3, 2020 13:06
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In Suggestions, mfav writes:
  This isn't it?

Hi Mark

Not sure which is the answer. If he goes to settings as I implied he will have
the ability to change the no of lots to no of items, but doing it as you have
shown shows both the lots and then below but I am not an 'ex' Pert we
will let him choose. .
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This isn't it?
 
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
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In Suggestions, metropolis1927 writes:
  Hello
Can you put somewhere quantity (Qty), shown on item search page, on catalog item
page?! See pictures.
That would be very useful!
Thank you.
Cheers,
Marko

Already exists - it is a setting here

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogOptions.asp?viewFrom=P

Show no of items by No items of r lots.
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Hello
Can you put somewhere quantity (Qty), shown on item search page, on catalog item
page?! See pictures.
That would be very useful!
Thank you.
Cheers,
Marko
 


 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Jan 3, 2020 03:43
 Subject: Re: Policy change - Undetermined versus Unknown a
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
   When you just get
told that you have this long to fix it or your listing will just evaporate, I

Listings evaporating would be totally unacceptable though, and would finally
cause the people who are accusing BL of inventory gremlins to be right. If such
a system was implemented it would cause me to write software to evade it. Because
to me, if there is one thing that's unacceptable about selling, it's
parts physically taking up space in my home that are dead weight and I will never
discover it. It's a number that can only grow over time, unless I would count
all of my million parts which - call me lazy - I won't do

Much better to simply make (older) "undetermined" parts not appear in the list
when browsing a store's items. Or undetermined items forced into stockroom
(with clear notification). The seller's inventory management should always
be 100% accurate and not suffer from a pressure means to improve listings. That's
a very principal thing to me, and for some sellers there's even a tax report
aspect here.

But yes, I understand your sentiment, and it shouldn't be too difficult for
Bricklink to focus the incentive on "buyability" and not on messing up administration.

  
In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  When a new variant is introduced after
something was listed, then logically the listing is the old variant and does
not need to be undetermined.

That's actually not logical. Sometimes it is a while before a variant is
recognized. It is not at all uncommon for it to go unnoticed for 6 months by
which time a lot of people have the new one for sale, listed as the old one.

I added
 
Part No: 42876  Name: Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back
* 
42876 Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back
Parts: Food & Drink
to the catalog when someone on the forum reported that there
was a new variant. I happened to have it and got a quick picture. This happened
Sept 23, 2019. Last year's advent calenders brought the attention to it.
But it has now been found in 7 sets from 2018. You had over a year to part
out one of those sets and have a listing that claimed to be the old variant and
was actually the new variant.

Many more stark examples can be found among the Clikits. Little attention has
usually be given to them. [p=clikits004a] and [p=clikits004b] masqueraded as
the same part for ELEVEN YEARS before Woutr noticed they were distinct and there
are a dozen other Clikits pieces with the same situation. Now the listings are
littered with the undetermined piece and there is no way for the Bricklink computers
to determine which is which. It's pretty easy to do in person once you learn
what you are looking for, but you have to actually have the pieces in your hand.

True, and I wasn't saying that it could account for *all* listings. But it
would already help a great deal if the items that are certainly not of the newer
type, weren't turned into undetermined. Even in your 11 year example, they
could still leave listings that are older than 11 years (and not added to in
the meantime). Maybe not so many listings left that qualify in such an extreme
case, but still, all bits help.
I think for most items we have a pretty good grasp on what year they were released.
If I recall right, several lots in my inventory have turned "undetermined" that
hadn't been created or added to for quite some time, and there was no reason
to make them undetermined because of a much more recent type.

Anyway you're right it's not a *solution*... just something that'd
help. Along with clear communication about new types to sellers that have them
listed when a new one is discovered, and simple interface options to manage types.
I think type listing deserves some attention for improvement, as many problems
buyers run into with sellers have to do with type errors.
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It would definitely be nice if the system automatically notified you. But in
trying to clean up the Clikits listings I have often directly asked people to
check their undetermined pieces so the undetermined listings can be deleted.
The result has now and then been that they do it. Mostly it is ignored. Some
people will actually have a back and forth a few messages and then not do it.
One person just told me that I am not an admin and I can't make them. It
is hard for me to understand. It's really easy to fix once someone has pointed
it out.

So I like what Russell said about a time limit and when it is backed by real
authority instead of someone just trying to work things out. When you just get
told that you have this long to fix it or your listing will just evaporate, I
think people will take the couple of minutes to fix it.

In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  When a new variant is introduced after
something was listed, then logically the listing is the old variant and does
not need to be undetermined.

That's actually not logical. Sometimes it is a while before a variant is
recognized. It is not at all uncommon for it to go unnoticed for 6 months by
which time a lot of people have the new one for sale, listed as the old one.

I added
 
Part No: 42876  Name: Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back
* 
42876 Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back
Parts: Food & Drink
to the catalog when someone on the forum reported that there
was a new variant. I happened to have it and got a quick picture. This happened
Sept 23, 2019. Last year's advent calenders brought the attention to it.
But it has now been found in 7 sets from 2018. You had over a year to part
out one of those sets and have a listing that claimed to be the old variant and
was actually the new variant.

Many more stark examples can be found among the Clikits. Little attention has
usually be given to them. [p=clikits004a] and [p=clikits004b] masqueraded as
the same part for ELEVEN YEARS before Woutr noticed they were distinct and there
are a dozen other Clikits pieces with the same situation. Now the listings are
littered with the undetermined piece and there is no way for the Bricklink computers
to determine which is which. It's pretty easy to do in person once you learn
what you are looking for, but you have to actually have the pieces in your hand.

True, and I wasn't saying that it could account for *all* listings. But it
would already help a great deal if the items that are certainly not of the newer
type, weren't turned into undetermined. Even in your 11 year example, they
could still leave listings that are older than 11 years (and not added to in
the meantime). Maybe not so many listings left that qualify in such an extreme
case, but still, all bits help.
I think for most items we have a pretty good grasp on what year they were released.
If I recall right, several lots in my inventory have turned "undetermined" that
hadn't been created or added to for quite some time, and there was no reason
to make them undetermined because of a much more recent type.

Anyway you're right it's not a *solution*... just something that'd
help. Along with clear communication about new types to sellers that have them
listed when a new one is discovered, and simple interface options to manage types.
I think type listing deserves some attention for improvement, as many problems
buyers run into with sellers have to do with type errors.
 Author: 62Bricks View Messages Posted By 62Bricks
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In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
  listing strength

Could you explain this term in more detail? I'm genuinely not sure what
it means. I've gone back through and reread all the forum posts where it
is used and I'm still not sure of the definition.

If an entry with 400 lots is split into two entries, you may see 250 listings
go to one variant and 300 go to another. That would mean that effectively 150
of those lots were also split.

What this means for the buyer is that they now only have 250 or 300 lots to
choose from, not 400. This may not seem like a big deal, but when you narrow
their options down to domestic shipping, and add the complexity of finding a
few dozen other parts from their wanted list in the same store, it becomes a
significant issue, and it could cost them more in shipping charges and higher
part prices.

Looking at it another way, if you have 5000 parts listed in various lots under
an entry, and the entry is split, 2000 may go to one variant and 3000 would then
go to the other.

And in both these examples, if there is an undetermined entry that needs to be
retired, that splits things in three ways instead of two, at least for a year
or so.

Listing strength is one of the advantages that BrickLink has over its competition.
If you look at any given part, there is a greater quantity available from more
sources than on any other site.

Of course, listing strength isn't a big deal if you are only out to buy one
or two parts. But for most of our users, getting the most parts from the fewest
number of sources is likely one of the biggest challenges they face when dealing
with the constraints of thier building budget.

  
  the fewest possible entries

  eliminate some variants that don't really need to be distinguished by the majority
of buyers and sellers.

Fair enough. I always thought there must be some way to structure the catalog/site
so that all variants could be distinguished without affecting commercial interests.
I still feel like that would be the best possible outcome. It would allow the
site to serve all users equally.

But I understand that some variants really are unimportant and I see the chaos
that variants have on inventories. And I haven't heard anyone propose a
solution that would work well. I'm not sure that one exists.

But if we are going to make a distinction (and the site already does) between
important and unimportant variants, it would probably be helpful to clearly define
that distinction in writing so that everyone knows where the line is drawn.

Absolutely. Nothing like this will be done behind closed doors.

  
  give a fixed, reasonable length of time for sellers to
deal with undetermined entries in their stores, instead of waiting until all
items have sold out.

Yeah, maintaining hundreds of Marked for Deletion items for years is not the
best policy.

Leniency on sellers in this respect was done to appease folks who thought the
catalog was going too far in the direction of the collectors and specialists.
But I really do believe if we can come to a compromise on this issue, sellers
will gladly relinquish their grip on those old entries.

For variants that share a part number and are distinguished by a suffix, it would
be possible to add a "pseudo" entry on the parts browsing page that would lead
to search results for all variants. For example, on this page:

https://www.bricklink.com/browseList.asp?itemType=P&catString=27

could be an entry for, say, "Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - All variants"

with a list of colors like the other entries. The links would lead to a wildcard
search for that part number in that color, as in:

https://www.bricklink.com/search.asp?viewFrom=sa&itemBrand=1000&colorID=9&q=4085%2A&searchSort=P&sz=25

Additionally, it would be a matter of a few minutes to add a checkbox to the
item search page at https://www.bricklink.com/searchAdvanced.asp?utm_content=subnav
that said "Show all variants" and that would append the * wildcard to the part
number entered.

These are things that could be done now, with no underlying changes to the catalog
or functionality. They would allow buyers to see all the variations in one set
of results.
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In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  When a new variant is introduced after
something was listed, then logically the listing is the old variant and does
not need to be undetermined.

That's actually not logical. Sometimes it is a while before a variant is
recognized. It is not at all uncommon for it to go unnoticed for 6 months by
which time a lot of people have the new one for sale, listed as the old one.

I added
 
Part No: 42876  Name: Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back
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42876 Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back
Parts: Food & Drink
to the catalog when someone on the forum reported that there
was a new variant. I happened to have it and got a quick picture. This happened
Sept 23, 2019. Last year's advent calenders brought the attention to it.
But it has now been found in 7 sets from 2018. You had over a year to part
out one of those sets and have a listing that claimed to be the old variant and
was actually the new variant.

Many more stark examples can be found among the Clikits. Little attention has
usually be given to them. [p=clikits004a] and [p=clikits004b] masqueraded as
the same part for ELEVEN YEARS before Woutr noticed they were distinct and there
are a dozen other Clikits pieces with the same situation. Now the listings are
littered with the undetermined piece and there is no way for the Bricklink computers
to determine which is which. It's pretty easy to do in person once you learn
what you are looking for, but you have to actually have the pieces in your hand.

True, and I wasn't saying that it could account for *all* listings. But it
would already help a great deal if the items that are certainly not of the newer
type, weren't turned into undetermined. Even in your 11 year example, they
could still leave listings that are older than 11 years (and not added to in
the meantime). Maybe not so many listings left that qualify in such an extreme
case, but still, all bits help.
I think for most items we have a pretty good grasp on what year they were released.
If I recall right, several lots in my inventory have turned "undetermined" that
hadn't been created or added to for quite some time, and there was no reason
to make them undetermined because of a much more recent type.

Anyway you're right it's not a *solution*... just something that'd
help. Along with clear communication about new types to sellers that have them
listed when a new one is discovered, and simple interface options to manage types.
I think type listing deserves some attention for improvement, as many problems
buyers run into with sellers have to do with type errors.
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In Suggestions, dearlydeparted writes:
  Catalogue Variants: One of the most frustrating moments and arguments happened
years ago concerning part 4070 and the addition of 4070a. Many argued it was
the same part but had the slot due to the mold or level of plastic fill - others
said it was a separate mold. I spent days looking through all my 4070's and
separating into 4070a - almost going blind. Then, if I remember correctly, the
4070a was abandoned and all parts had to be compiled again. What a waste in effort
and time - I never separated them out again when the variant reappeared. Does
anyone remember this? Can we avoid such waffling in the future P-L-E-A-S-E!

Truth be told, 4070 was never "the part without the slot". You should have just
left them unsorted. 4070a was created so that if people wanted to trade the version
with slot, they could do so. But 4070b was never created.

However, that is actually a perfect example of a variant entry that needed to
go away. I agree - a huge waste of time for everyone.

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