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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 9, 2019 15:19
 Subject: Re: inconsistencies
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, RecycledBrick writes:
  I would like to see the Tile Modified ones that have studs moved to Plate Modified.
I vote yes.

I am torn. I feel like having studs is characteristic of the plate and not having
studs is characteristic of the tile. Is it possible to have a new category specifically
for tiles that have some studs and plates that have some flat space? The most
obvious (to me) name for the category would be Jumpers, but I don't really
know how that word came to be used the way Lego uses it.

Against.

I don’t know why “jumper” was chosen. The similarity with electrical jumpers
(little wires that “jump” over the main circuits, or little thingies to connect
two plots) is tenuous: yes it’s a connector but everything connects in LEGO.
But I believe “jumper” can be taken to mean that the connection “jumps” half
a stud.
Anyway, “jumper” is well engraved as meaning “offset stud” which the missing-studs
plates and having-studs tiles don’t have.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 9, 2019 14:27
 Subject: Re: inconsistencies
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, Teup writes:
  Either
way, if you don't have principal characteristics of what constitutes a tile
or plate (for example groove = tile), any classification is going to be inconsistent
and a matter of opinion.

I like this sentence.

Me too.
Well, except for the example, as there are plates with grooves
 
Part No: 3030a  Name: Plate 4 x 10 with Groove
* 
3030a Plate 4 x 10 with Groove
Parts: Plate
and tiles/plates variants with and without groove
 
Part No: 41740  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
* 
41740 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 92593  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs without Groove
* 
92593 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs without Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified

(And the jumpers too….)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 8, 2019 12:37
 Subject: Re: Keffiyeh vs Turban
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In Catalog, bje writes:
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Wish
I could read Proust, Balzac, Littel and few others in original French.

Me too

(I lack the courage.)


  
  Bicorne = two horns
There are tricorne hats too (three horns).

Horny hats will be even more difficult to remember, it is not a concept I usually
associate with hats or caps.

Well, I’m sure there’s peacockery somewhere (bad, bad pun) but “corne” is a common
term in French for angled/folded —wait for it— corners!
Yes the English “corner” is about horns too
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 8, 2019 11:56
 Subject: Re: Keffiyeh vs Turban
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In Catalog, bje writes:
  You want to try and remember bicorne - usually I have to search through pirates
minifigs to get that %^^$%@ name.

I’ll excuse your French as it so happens that “%^^$%@” could indeed be replaced
by “French”.

Bicorne = two horns
There are tricorne hats too (three horns).

   You might want to bookmark this page. It at
least gives the starting point names of some hat/headdress styles with images,
since I can never remember any of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat

You’ll note that on that page, keffiyeh is spelled keffiyah.
(While the wiktionary lists kaffiyah, kufiya, and kufiyah as alternative spellings,
but not keffiyah.)

Finding it through Prince of Persia minifigures might be quicker than searching
the wikipedia page then trying all the possible spellings
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 Posted: Apr 8, 2019 10:11
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In Catalog, edk writes:
  why is
 
Part No: 6576  Name: Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
* 
6576 Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
Parts: Plate, Modified
a plate modified when
 
Part No: 88646  Name: Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
* 
88646 Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
Parts: Tile, Modified
is a tile modified?

I’d have said it’s the number of studs (or ratio). Something like 50%+1 of studs
missing means it’s a tile, but some “tiles” have 50% of their studs and some
“plates” have less than 50% of their studs.

Plates:
 
Part No: 3794  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud, Jumper (Undetermined Type)
* 
3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud, Jumper (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Plate, Modified
(and variants)
 
Part No: 34103  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 3 with 2 Studs (Double Jumper)
* 
34103 Plate, Modified 1 x 3 with 2 Studs (Double Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 41740  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
* 
41740 Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 Studs with Groove
Parts: Plate, Modified
(and variant)
 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 6576  Name: Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
* 
6576 Plate, Modified 4 x 8 with Studs in Center
Parts: Plate, Modified
 
Part No: 4607  Name: Plate, Modified 4 x 16 with 24 studs
* 
4607 Plate, Modified 4 x 16 with 24 studs
Parts: Plate, Modified

Tiles:
 
Part No: 33909  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
* 
33909 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 88646  Name: Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
* 
88646 Tile, Modified 3 x 4 with 4 Studs in Center
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6179  Name: Tile, Modified 4 x 4 with Studs on Edge
* 
6179 Tile, Modified 4 x 4 with Studs on Edge
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6180  Name: Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges
* 
6180 Tile, Modified 4 x 6 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6178  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges
* 
6178 Tile, Modified 6 x 12 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified
 
Part No: 6205  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 16 with Studs on Edges
* 
6205 Tile, Modified 6 x 16 with Studs on Edges
Parts: Tile, Modified

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