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 Author: silver View Messages Posted By silver
 Posted: Jan 5, 2019 02:24
 Subject: Pop-Up Party Bus (70828-1)
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Part 92593 (Plate, Modified 1 x 4 with 2 studs) in Coral should
be changed to the newer mold type 41740. The catalog page for 92593 shows
one known appearance.
 Author: StoreToys4Boys View Messages Posted By StoreToys4Boys
 Posted: Jan 1, 2019 19:18
 Subject: Just add 5000 parts and now they disapear ?
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I just part out 5000 parts and now they disapear.

I just use part out function from a set and it did add all the parts and price
to my inventory.

I just reload my store page to see 308,386 parts but 2 minutes later its back
to 302,722 and all the new part are not there anymore.They are not in stockroom
they are just not there.

Anybody else ever got that problem?
 Author: normivey View Messages Posted By normivey
 Posted: Dec 30, 2018 23:45
 Subject: Re: Parts not showing on set inventory pages?
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Ahhh. So they do. Thanks!
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 30, 2018 23:39
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In Help, normivey writes:
  Parts that are identified as being part of a set from the parts page did not show up
in the set's inventory page.

Those parts appear in the inventories of figures. You can click the Break Minifigs
button at the top of an inventory page to have all the figure parts appear along
with the other items in the inventory if desired.
 Author: normivey View Messages Posted By normivey
 Posted: Dec 30, 2018 23:27
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I've come cross a couple of discrepancies with different sets today. Parts
that are identified as being part of a set from the parts page did not show up
in the set's inventory page. Two examples:

The parts page for 15444 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2 with Square Hole indicates
that it is included in set 70808 Super Cycle Chase, but when I look at the inventory
for that set, it's not listed.

The parts page for 15429 Cat Tail indicates that it is included in set 41067,
but it is not listed on the inventory page for that set.

Is this only happening to me, or are others seeing the same discrepancies?
 Author: POPS_BLOCK_SHOP View Messages Posted By POPS_BLOCK_SHOP
 Posted: Dec 30, 2018 08:10
 Subject: Re: BrickLink Store Video Update
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In Inventories, POPS_BLOCK_SHOP writes:
  We are finally growing at a more desired pace! Feel free to follow along for
the ride!

Bricklink Store Overview
https://youtu.be/arFXJncQ7RU

Here is a clip of our original Bricklink store tour about two months ago.

First Store Tour 11/08/2018
https://youtu.be/4fqh_d51ZPs
 Author: POPS_BLOCK_SHOP View Messages Posted By POPS_BLOCK_SHOP
 Posted: Dec 29, 2018 20:30
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We are finally growing at a more desired pace! Feel free to follow along for
the ride!

Bricklink Store Overview
https://youtu.be/arFXJncQ7RU
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Dec 27, 2018 14:04
 Subject: Re: 3862 - "mixed" parts
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In Inventories, agulus writes:
  Zycze szczesliwego Nowego Roku

Dziękuję

Happy New Year also!
 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
 Posted: Dec 27, 2018 13:10
 Subject: Re: 3862 - "mixed" parts
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Got it Thanks! For me it was first time when I saw
mixed variants in one set.

Zycze szczesliwego Nowego Roku

In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, agulus writes:
  It doesn't matter that I got 2 parts of one variant and 8 of other?

It doesn't matter. It is quite common situation. In our inventory system
alternate variant has always the same quantity, because frequently in set's
copies ratio of part variants can vary, some can have only one variant of part,
some as your copy can have mix of two variants and some copies will have 2, other
3, another 4 etc. of one variant and respectively 8, 7, 6 of other variant, so
we would be overwhelmed by many possible combinations.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:59
 Subject: Re: 3862 - "mixed" parts
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In Inventories, agulus writes:
  It doesn't matter that I got 2 parts of one variant and 8 of other?

It doesn't matter. It is quite common situation. In our inventory system
alternate variant has always the same quantity, because frequently in set's
copies ratio of part variants can vary, some can have only one variant of part,
some as your copy can have mix of two variants and some copies will have 2, other
3, another 4 etc. of one variant and respectively 8, 7, 6 of other variant, so
we would be overwhelmed by many possible combinations.
 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
 Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:36
 Subject: Re: 3862 - "mixed" parts
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It doesn't matter that I got 2 parts of one variant and 8 of other?

In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, agulus writes:
  I just bought new sealed: [Gear=3862]

and I found out that there were "mixed" 2 types of one part:

2 parts (tan):
 
Part No: 4865  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1
* 
4865 Panel 1 x 2 x 1
Parts: Panel
8 parts (tan):
 
Part No: 4865b  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1 with Rounded Corners
* 
4865b Panel 1 x 2 x 1 with Rounded Corners
Parts: Panel

instead of 10 of one type only.

I think that putting a note for the sellers to be careful
about that "mix" in the Game would be helpful.

Agnes

In this inventory second variant is in the alternate section. This way in the
inventory is showed that in this set both variants can occur. No other notes
is needed.
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:20
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In Inventories, agulus writes:
  I just bought new sealed: [Gear=3862]

and I found out that there were "mixed" 2 types of one part:

2 parts (tan):
 
Part No: 4865  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1
* 
4865 Panel 1 x 2 x 1
Parts: Panel
8 parts (tan):
 
Part No: 4865b  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1 with Rounded Corners
* 
4865b Panel 1 x 2 x 1 with Rounded Corners
Parts: Panel

instead of 10 of one type only.

I think that putting a note for the sellers to be careful
about that "mix" in the Game would be helpful.

Agnes

In this inventory second variant is in the alternate section. This way in the
inventory is showed that in this set both variants can occur. No other notes
is needed.
 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
 Posted: Dec 27, 2018 12:16
 Subject: 3862 - "mixed" parts
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I just bought new sealed: [Gear=3862]

and I found out that there were "mixed" 2 types of one part:

2 parts (tan):
 
Part No: 4865  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1
* 
4865 Panel 1 x 2 x 1
Parts: Panel
8 parts (tan):
 
Part No: 4865b  Name: Panel 1 x 2 x 1 with Rounded Corners
* 
4865b Panel 1 x 2 x 1 with Rounded Corners
Parts: Panel

instead of 10 of one type only.

I think that putting a note for the sellers to be careful
about that "mix" in the Game would be helpful.

Agnes
 Author: xxxzanka View Messages Posted By xxxzanka
 Posted: Dec 20, 2018 17:16
 Subject: Re: 42082 extra items
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In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
  In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
  In Inventories, xxxzanka writes:
  It seems to me one trans clear 1x1 plate is missing as extra parts (I have 3
in step 8 bags, 2 used in step 8).
Giancarlo

Tile not plate, sorry

Yes you have right it is visible in this review
https://youtu.be/FTrlyFYOoes?t=21m13s

Please consider submiting invetory change request here
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChange.asp?itemType=S

BTW Are you able to check rest of the inventory. Parts count on box is 4057.
Currently in this inventory we have 4056 parts. Is there missing something more?

Sure as soon as i will end all the steps (I have little time for legoing unfortunately)

Set completed: at the end my extra parts list has this differences: no 43093
(axle pin with friction blu); 1x3713 (gray tech bush) instead of 2; 4x3713 (red
tech bush) instead of 5.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 16, 2018 12:31
 Subject: Re: Extra Sticker set in Indoraptor Rampage
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  But, perhaps Marek and Randy can produce some guidelines for us on how extra
sticker sheets should be handled in set inventories considering the positions
we've outlined.

Marek and I can look into this, but it won't be very high priority.

Also, judging by your position, you wouldn't like my guidelines.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Dec 16, 2018 04:44
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In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
  But the sticker sheets were clearly not intended to be included as extra parts
and don't appear often enough to justify including them as extra parts.

There are two schools of thought on this and good arguments can definitely be
made for both positions. You have presented one side well and I will present
the other side:

1. Frequency of appearance is not currently the deciding factor in the
inclusion of an extra part in a set inventory. Should it be? I don't believe
so. How could you reasonably set a quantity of appearances before an extra is
allowed into an inventory?

2. I've never heard a convincing explanation of why any extra parts
are included in any sets, although I've certainly heard a number of theories.
Extra sticker sheets certainly don't appear to be consistent extras, but
should intentionality on the part of TLG be the deciding factor on including
extras in an inventory? I don't believe so, or at least not until we can
conclusively define (based on convincing evidence) the circumstances regarding
extra parts and their appearance in sets.

3. It is possible that extra sticker sheet extras are more common than
any of us realize, even if only packing errors. If we're not keeping any
records of their appearance in sets, then how would we truly know?

4. Extra sticker sheets fit the definition of extra parts as well as
any other extra part does. They appear in some sets and not in others. Should
we base decisions on extra parts on anything other than the fact that they came
in a set and were extra? I don't believe so.

But, perhaps Marek and Randy can produce some guidelines for us on how extra
sticker sheets should be handled in set inventories considering the positions
we've outlined.
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
 Posted: Dec 16, 2018 04:06
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
  It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times.

We may have differing opinions on this - not sure because we've never discussed
it. My opinion is that a sticker is a part. We consider it a part and TLG considers
it a part and includes it in the part count.

If you have an extra one of these parts, then I believe it fits the definition
of an extra part and should be included in the set inventory as such:

 
Set No: 41351  Name: Creative Tuning Shop
* 
41351-1 (Inv) Creative Tuning Shop
404 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Friends

Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.

What are your thoughts?

In my experience extra sticker sheets are caused by packing errors and they are
not systematically included as extras. This is supported by the fact that I've
bought multiples of the same set from the same supplier and found an extra sheet
in only one of the sets.

In my opinion extras should only be extra parts that Lego put in sets for at
least one production run of the set. For example there are some sets that were
first produced before 1x1 plates were included as extras but later production
runs did include them as extras. For those sets I support the inclusion of them
as extra parts.

But the sticker sheets were clearly not intended to be included as extra parts
and don't appear often enough to justify including them as extra parts.
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Dec 15, 2018 17:53
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In Inventories, PortCityTechnic writes:
  In Inventories, StormChaser writes:

  Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.

What are your thoughts?

I too have received an extra sticker sheet a time or two, but never frequently
or consistently. For example, parting out 10 copies of a set, and ending up
with 11 sticker sheets. The extra sticker sheet seems more like a packing error
by TLG, and as such, I don't think I would add them as extras in the set
inventory.

I don't think sticker sheets were ever systematically included as extra parts,
in the way that 1x1 plates, technic pins, and other small parts commonly are.

I agree!
 Author: PortCityTechnic View Messages Posted By PortCityTechnic
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In Inventories, StormChaser writes:

  Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.

What are your thoughts?

I too have received an extra sticker sheet a time or two, but never frequently
or consistently. For example, parting out 10 copies of a set, and ending up
with 11 sticker sheets. The extra sticker sheet seems more like a packing error
by TLG, and as such, I don't think I would add them as extras in the set
inventory.

I don't think sticker sheets were ever systematically included as extra parts,
in the way that 1x1 plates, technic pins, and other small parts commonly are.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times.

We may have differing opinions on this - not sure because we've never discussed
it. My opinion is that a sticker is a part. We consider it a part and TLG considers
it a part and includes it in the part count.

If you have an extra one of these parts, then I believe it fits the definition
of an extra part and should be included in the set inventory as such:

 
Set No: 41351  Name: Creative Tuning Shop
* 
41351-1 (Inv) Creative Tuning Shop
404 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Friends

Were sticker sheets systematically included as extras in some sets in the way
that other parts are? We really don't know, since we haven't been keeping
data on extra appearances. The current inventory guidelines don't address
how frequently an extra must appear in order to be added to the inventory, but
the unwritten rule has been one time.

What are your thoughts?
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, runner.caller writes:
  I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?

It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times. I just consider myself lucky when I
get one!

Cheers,
Randy

Thanks Randy! That's what I was thinking probably happened. Cool!
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In Inventories, runner.caller writes:
  I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?

It's not unheard of to get a duplicate sticker sheet in a set here or there.
It has happened to me two or three times. I just consider myself lucky when I
get one!

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: runner.caller View Messages Posted By runner.caller
 Posted: Dec 15, 2018 11:35
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I got 2 sticker sets (75930stk01) in set 75930-1.
Anyone else experience this?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 8, 2018 12:05
 Subject: Re: set 10205 extra parts question
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In Catalog, mockingbird writes:
  As far as I can see (maybe I overlooked something):

In the regular section of the inventory there are parts that are not used in
the main model (and the instructions or box do not show any secondary model):
1x black brick 1x2
2x black plate 1x1 clip horizontal
2x black slope inverted 75 2x1x3
1x black tile 1x4

But then in the extra parts section of set 10205 are 2x black panel 1x2x3 (2362b).
Shouldn't these two panels also be moved to the regular section?

Or should all these parts be moved to the 'extra' section as the secondary
model is not in the instructions?

You are definitely correct in noticing that there is a problem with this inventory,
so thank you for bringing this to our attention!

The current definition for what constitutes a Regular Item in an inventory on
BrickLink is shown here from https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

"Regular Items - All parts required to build the main model and any secondary
models, plus any other items on the official parts list. In the absence of a
parts list, the instructions, box images, and official part count may be used
to determine as closely as possible the constitution of the Regular section."

So let's go down the list...

Are these parts shown in the main model or any secondary models? No, so this
first criteria points to all of these parts as being extras.

Are these parts shown on the official parts list? There is no official parts
list, so this criteria is inconclusive and directly leads us to the last criteria.

Are the parts shown in the instructions? No.
Are the parts shown on the box images? No.
Are the parts included in the official part count? YES!

The box clearly states that there are 234 parts included in the set. Right now,
the BrickLink inventory lists 232 parts. Therefore, the panels in the Extra Items
section should be included in the Regular Items section. The LEGO Replacement
Parts website also confirms that all of the parts you listed as not being used
in the instructions *were* included in the set.

In conclusion, the inventory will be updated to move the panels to the Regular
Items section.

Thank you for contributing to the accuracy of the BrickLink catalog.

Cheers,
Randy
 
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As far as I can see (maybe I overlooked something):

In the regular section of the inventory there are parts that are not used in
the main model (and the instructions or box do not show any secondary model):
1x black brick 1x2
2x black plate 1x1 clip horizontal
2x black slope inverted 75 2x1x3
1x black tile 1x4

But then in the extra parts section of set 10205 are 2x black panel 1x2x3 (2362b).
Shouldn't these two panels also be moved to the regular section?

Or should all these parts be moved to the 'extra' section as the secondary
model is not in the instructions?

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