Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | SezaR  | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 926-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| | | I think we could probably move forward with doing this thing even now, but the
first step is for someone to add the figures with plain torsos to the catalog.
I don't have the parts or figures necessary to do this, so I'm waiting
on someone to submit these figures with photos.
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I can do this.
However there was no trace of any sticker sheets in these sets. Recall that the
sticker sheets in the data base have each two stickers so for two torsos. But
three sets out of four in my lot have each one minifigs. So either
- there should have been one sticker left for each of these three sets (889,
891, 6841) Since the previous owner was very organized but no sticker sheet was
found in the box, this is not likely.
- a different sticker sheet were included in these sets. (is this likely? so
many years and nobody added these stickers?)
- the minifigures were first stickerred by TLG and included in these sets.
By the way, I have asked this question in a facebook group for classic space
sets.
In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | So you don't believe Paul, nor Reza, nor me about the stickersheets and plain
torso's?
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Reza said he bought a used set containing stickered torso figures and I believe
him.
Paul said he had some of the stickered torso figures as a child and as far as
he remembers the sets came with plain torsos and sticker sheets. He also said,
"Of course these sets are around 40 years old so I don't remember the exact
details" and I believe him.
You did not address the issue of whether your set came with plain torsos and
sticker sheets. You said, "Set 889 came with the stickered torso/minifig. Got
this as my 2nd set when I was 5-6y old." and I believe you.
Consider, however, the sources: one used lot and two people who are remembering
details from childhood. I don't remember much from when I was 5 years old.
As SylvainLS said, it's not that I don't believe anyone - it would just
be nice to have more substantial sources.
I do think that all of you are very likely correct and what is probably going
to happen is that I'm going to find a way to reflect the 1979 stickered/un-stickered
figures in the inventories along with the sticker sheets (and inventory notes).
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 14:18 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 926-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | the first step is for someone to add the figures with plain torsos to the catalog.
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Looks like the torsos themselves already exist (see the additional note for the
red one):
[P=973c44]
[P=973c09]
Still need the figures added, though.
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 926-1 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
| | So you don't believe Paul, nor Reza, nor me about the stickersheets and plain
torso's?
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Reza said he bought a used set containing stickered torso figures and I believe
him.
Paul said he had some of the stickered torso figures as a child and as far as
he remembers the sets came with plain torsos and sticker sheets. He also said,
"Of course these sets are around 40 years old so I don't remember the exact
details" and I believe him.
You did not address the issue of whether your set came with plain torsos and
sticker sheets. You said, "Set 889 came with the stickered torso/minifig. Got
this as my 2nd set when I was 5-6y old." and I believe you.
Consider, however, the sources: one used lot and two people who are remembering
details from childhood. I don't remember much from when I was 5 years old.
As SylvainLS said, it's not that I don't believe anyone - it would just
be nice to have more substantial sources.
I do think that all of you are very likely correct and what is probably going
to happen is that I'm going to find a way to reflect the 1979 stickered/un-stickered
figures in the inventories along with the sticker sheets (and inventory notes).
I think we could probably move forward with doing this thing even now, but the
first step is for someone to add the figures with plain torsos to the catalog.
I don't have the parts or figures necessary to do this, so I'm waiting
on someone to submit these figures with photos.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 09:56 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 926-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
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| | I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm interested in videos
or photos of a new space set which included the space figures and sticker sheets
we're discussing.
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So you don't believe Paul, nor Reza, nor me about the stickersheets and plain
torso's?
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I don’t think it’s about “believing,” more about having proof for the future.
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| Author: | elias3 | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 08:53 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 926-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | | | I haven't looked myself, but can anyone find an example of a brand new set
from this time period showing that the set contained an un-stickered torso assembly
and one of the sticker sheets?
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I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm interested in videos
or photos of a new space set which included the space figures and sticker sheets
we're discussing.
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So you don't believe Paul, nor Reza, nor me about the stickersheets and plain
torso's?
Don't think any Lego part comes/came stickered (maybe an exception?), there
is always a stickersheet for that part or parts (a large stickersheet or a small
one, or more then one in a set)
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 08:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1 | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| Concerning the hinges, I believe:
1) the inventory of the vintage trains were never made by checking a sealed set
as all the mistakes or incompleteness are those not found on instructions or
box. So I believe the hinges with solid stud was not verified to be included
in a copy of this set.
2) The motor is of type 3 dated 45 4 (45th week in 1984). This set is from 1985-90
so this copy should be from the first production run of this set.
Other parts included in this MISB set confirm this, for example the part
does not have reinforcements. In 1985 this part was improved and reinforcements
were added under the notches. Also
So in this first production run, the hinges are already of hollow studs.
3) As we don't have any proof that the old variants of hinges came in any
release, I requested to delete them.
More conservative option is to change them to alternate parts. Even if the old
variants of hinges were included, that would be in less than 1% copies of this
set so it makes sense to change them to alternate.
In the photos we can see most hinges. The owner of this set checked and confirmed
that all hinges were of hollow studs.
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 08:25 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| The motor is dated 45 4 (45th week in 1984) so it was already expected that the
interference free conducting rail
was included. It doe not have reinforcements as seen in the last photo.
As always, this part comes with the paper
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 08:21 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| The photos are from an MISB set belonging to the owner of the store Basteq.
This set is most likely from the first production run as the date of motor is
45 4 (45th week in 1984). The light gray brick
is included suggesting that the old variation of it was never included in this
set.
In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 07:47 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7745-1 | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
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| Author: | A.Lukinov | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2018 07:26 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 42005-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 87080pb041 Red Technic, Panel Fairing # 1 Small Smooth Short, Side A with Black and Yellow Squares, 'BIG big WHEELS', 'GASoline' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42005 (Counterpart)
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