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 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Inventories Requests, elias3 writes:
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  I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm interested in videos
or photos of a new space set which included the space figures and sticker sheets
we're discussing.

So you don't believe Paul, nor Reza, nor me about the stickersheets and plain
torso's?

I don’t think it’s about “believing,” more about having proof for the future.
 Author: elias3 View Messages Posted By elias3
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  7816 from 1980.

  
  I haven't looked myself, but can anyone find an example of a brand new set
from this time period showing that the set contained an un-stickered torso assembly
and one of the sticker sheets?

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm interested in videos
or photos of a new space set which included the space figures and sticker sheets
we're discussing.

So you don't believe Paul, nor Reza, nor me about the stickersheets and plain
torso's?

Don't think any Lego part comes/came stickered (maybe an exception?), there
is always a stickersheet for that part or parts (a large stickersheet or a small
one, or more then one in a set)
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Apr 18, 2018 08:37
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Concerning the hinges, I believe:
1) the inventory of the vintage trains were never made by checking a sealed set
as all the mistakes or incompleteness are those not found on instructions or
box. So I believe the hinges with solid stud was not verified to be included
in a copy of this set.
2) The motor is of type 3 dated 45 4 (45th week in 1984). This set is from 1985-90
so this copy should be from the first production run of this set.
Other parts included in this MISB set confirm this, for example the part
 
Part No: 3241c  Name: Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
* 
3241c Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
Parts: Train, Track
does not have reinforcements. In 1985 this part was improved and reinforcements
were added under the notches. Also
 
Part No: 4081a  Name: Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment - Thin Ring
* 
4081a Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Light Attachment - Thin Ring
Parts: Plate, Modified
So in this first production run, the hinges are already of hollow studs.
3) As we don't have any proof that the old variants of hinges came in any
release, I requested to delete them.
More conservative option is to change them to alternate parts. Even if the old
variants of hinges were included, that would be in less than 1% copies of this
set so it makes sense to change them to alternate.

In the photos we can see most hinges. The owner of this set checked and confirmed
that all hinges were of hollow studs.




In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
 














 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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The motor is dated 45 4 (45th week in 1984) so it was already expected that the
interference free conducting rail
 
Part No: 3241c  Name: Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
* 
3241c Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free
Parts: Train, Track
was included. It doe not have reinforcements as seen in the last photo.
As always, this part comes with the paper
 
Part No: 117983a  Name: Paper Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983
* 
117983a Paper Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983
Parts: Paper

In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
 








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 Posted: Apr 18, 2018 08:21
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The photos are from an MISB set belonging to the owner of the store Basteq.

This set is most likely from the first production run as the date of motor is
45 4 (45th week in 1984). The light gray brick
 
Part No: 3003  Name: Brick 2 x 2
* 
3003 Brick 2 x 2
Parts: Brick
is included suggesting that the old variation of it was never included in this
set.


In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
 










 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7745  Name: High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
* 
7745-1 (Inv) High-Speed City Express Passenger Train
695 Parts, 10 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Train: 12V

* Delete 5 Part 3003 Black Brick 2 x 2
* Add 5 Part 3003old Black Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 7 Part 3003 White Brick 2 x 2
* Add 7 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports
* Delete 2 Part 3002 Red Brick 2 x 3
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports
* Add 1 Part 117983a (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail - 117983 (match ID 7)
* Add 1 Part 3241c (Not Applicable) Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved, interference-free (match ID 7)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Delete 2 Part 4275a Black Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 2)
* Delete 2 Part 4276a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 3)
* Delete 4 Part 4275a Light Gray Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers and Solid Studs (match ID 4)
* Change 1 Part (Not Applicable) 117983b Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2731a Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Curved with Connection Wire and Short Connector {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 7}
* Change 2 Part Black 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Black 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 4276 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 2 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
* Change 4 Part Light Gray 4275 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 with 3 Fingers {Alternate to Regular}
 Author: A.Lukinov View Messages Posted By A.Lukinov
 Posted: Apr 18, 2018 07:26
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 42005  Name: Monster Truck
* 
42005-1 (Inv) Monster Truck
329 Parts, 2013
Sets: Technic: Model: Off-Road

* Add 1 Part 87080pb041 Red Technic, Panel Fairing # 1 Small Smooth Short, Side A with Black and Yellow Squares, 'BIG big WHEELS', 'GASoline' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42005 (Counterpart)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 42005  Name: Monster Truck
* 
42005-1 (Inv) Monster Truck
329 Parts, 2013
Sets: Technic: Model: Off-Road

* Add 1 Part 87086pb041 Red Technic, Panel Fairing # 2 Small Smooth Short, Side B with Black and Yellow Squares, 'BIG big WHEELS', 'GASoline' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42005 (Counterpart)
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Apparently some extra parts in all the trains of that era were included. These
parts were exactly the parts of the motor set
[p=103-1]
so that buyers can build other MOCs such as cars with the train set. (and won't
need to buy 103-1)

One expert/collector confirmed the number of blue rails included as the photo
is not clear.
The rims come assembled in the original box.
The photo one belongs to one copy. The photos 2-6 belong to another one.


In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
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Set No: 138  Name: Electronic Train
* 
138-1 (Inv) Electronic Train
113 Parts, 1969
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 3230a Blue Train, Track Tapered Rail Curved Inside
* Add 1 Part 3229a Blue Train, Track Tapered Rail Curved Outside
* Add 2 Part 3228a Blue Train, Track Tapered Rail Straight 16L
* Add 3 Part 3034 White Plate 2 x 8
* Add 4 Part 7039 Black Wheel Old with 4 Studs
* Add 2 Part x486a Black Tread Small - Old - Wedge Shaped Treads
* Add 4 Part 132old Orange Tire Smooth Old Style - Small
* Delete 8 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Add 4 Part wheel2ac01 Red Train Wheel Spoked (for motor), with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2A / trainrim) (Alternate)
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac02 Train Wheel Spoked (for motor), with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2A / trainrim) {Counterpart to Regular}
 










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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 42005  Name: Monster Truck
* 
42005-1 (Inv) Monster Truck
329 Parts, 2013
Sets: Technic: Model: Off-Road

* Add 1 Part 64683pb035 Red Technic, Panel Fairing # 3 Small Smooth Long, Side A with Flames Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42005 (Counterpart)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 42005  Name: Monster Truck
* 
42005-1 (Inv) Monster Truck
329 Parts, 2013
Sets: Technic: Model: Off-Road

* Add 1 Part 64391pb035 Red Technic, Panel Fairing # 4 Small Smooth Long, Side B with Flames Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42005 (Counterpart)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 42005  Name: Monster Truck
* 
42005-1 (Inv) Monster Truck
329 Parts, 2013
Sets: Technic: Model: Off-Road

* Add 1 Part 11946pb023 Red Technic, Panel Fairing #21 Very Small Smooth, Side B with Flames Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42005 (Counterpart)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 42005  Name: Monster Truck
* 
42005-1 (Inv) Monster Truck
329 Parts, 2013
Sets: Technic: Model: Off-Road

* Add 1 Part 11947pb023 Red Technic, Panel Fairing #22 Very Small Smooth, Side A with Flames Pattern (Sticker) - Set 42005 (Counterpart)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 138  Name: Electronic Train
* 
138-1 (Inv) Electronic Train
113 Parts, 1969
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 3230a Blue Train, Track Tapered Rail Curved Inside
* Add 1 Part 3229a Blue Train, Track Tapered Rail Curved Outside
* Add 2 Part 3228a Blue Train, Track Tapered Rail Straight 16L
* Add 3 Part 3034 White Plate 2 x 8
* Add 4 Part 7039 Black Wheel Old with 4 Studs
* Add 2 Part x486a Black Tread Small - Old - Wedge Shaped Treads
* Add 4 Part 132old Orange Tire Smooth Old Style - Small
* Delete 8 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Add 4 Part wheel2ac01 Red Train Wheel Spoked (for motor), with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2A / trainrim) (Alternate)
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac02 Train Wheel Spoked (for motor), with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2A / trainrim) {Counterpart to Regular}
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 122  Name: Loco and Tender
* 
122-1 (Inv) Loco and Tender
96 Parts, 1969
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (match ID 1)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac02 Train Wheel Spoked (for motor), with Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2A / trainrim) {Counterpart to Regular} {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac01 Train Wheel Spoked (for motor), with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2A / trainrim) {Counterpart to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
The rims came assembled in the box.
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I then really need to travel to the past and speak to one of manager of TLG in
late 70s.
Once I do this, many issues on inventories would be resolved.


In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  7816 from 1980.

  
  I haven't looked myself, but can anyone find an example of a brand new set
from this time period showing that the set contained an un-stickered torso assembly
and one of the sticker sheets?

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm interested in videos
or photos of a new space set which included the space figures and sticker sheets
we're discussing.
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  7816 from 1980.

  
  I haven't looked myself, but can anyone find an example of a brand new set
from this time period showing that the set contained an un-stickered torso assembly
and one of the sticker sheets?

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'm interested in videos
or photos of a new space set which included the space figures and sticker sheets
we're discussing.
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7816 from 1980.


In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  I know I had some of these stickered minifigs when I was a child. Of course these
sets are around 40 years old so I don't remember the exact details, but as
far as I remember some sets came with plain red or white torsos and sticker sheets
with the torso stickers.

Based on Bricklink inventory guidelines I guess this means that stickered minifigs
should be added as counterparts and minifigs with plain red and white torsos
should be added as alternates for the minifigs with printed torsos.

That is what I was suspecting should happen for classic space sets with stickered
minifigures and I believe Stefaan agrees with you. In other words, I rather
doubted that the stickered figures came in sealed sets from the LEGO factory
with the stickers pre-applied. It could happen, but I don't know of many
other times that has happened.

I haven't looked myself, but can anyone find an example of a brand new set
from this time period showing that the set contained an un-stickered torso assembly
and one of the sticker sheets?
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In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
  I know I had some of these stickered minifigs when I was a child. Of course these
sets are around 40 years old so I don't remember the exact details, but as
far as I remember some sets came with plain red or white torsos and sticker sheets
with the torso stickers.

Based on Bricklink inventory guidelines I guess this means that stickered minifigs
should be added as counterparts and minifigs with plain red and white torsos
should be added as alternates for the minifigs with printed torsos.

That is what I was suspecting should happen for classic space sets with stickered
minifigures and I believe Stefaan agrees with you. In other words, I rather
doubted that the stickered figures came in sealed sets from the LEGO factory
with the stickers pre-applied. It could happen, but I don't know of many
other times that has happened.

I haven't looked myself, but can anyone find an example of a brand new set
from this time period showing that the set contained an un-stickered torso assembly
and one of the sticker sheets?
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 Posted: Apr 17, 2018 08:19
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 926  Name: Command Centre (Center)
* 
926-1 (Inv) Command Centre (Center)
147 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp064 Classic Space - Red with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 2 Minifig sp005 Classic Space - Red with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 2 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 4}

I'm not overly familiar with these stickered torso figures. I'm not
sure if they come from the existence of these sheets:

[P=SPACEstk01]
[P=SPACEstk02]

which came, I'm told, from TLG customer service only (read the additional
catalog notes for the sticker sheets), or if the torso stickered figures were
included in new sets.

The question which should be answered before we proceed here is whether the torsos
with stickers already applied were included in sealed sets or not. I'm sure
someone here knows the answer to that . . . ?

Maybe it's time to change that note (delete) and add the stickersheet to
the sets we know (like set 889 for ex.)
When in a later run the minfig in this set was the printed torso then this minfig
need to changes as alternate as 'MID 1' and the stickersheet and minfig
as regular with the 'MID 1' like we have done in other sets.
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I don't call it a big lot of used sets. It is the following item
173205892929
I am amazed how all sets were neat and complete in their boxes. Only the small
space sets missed their boxes.
More interesting is that there was a letter inside the set 7725 which was the
answer of a Lego sale manager concerning the set 7725 and how to use transformer.
The owner was overly organized.
The older train 171 may not have come from the same buyer. The seller of this
item received donation to sell and spend for the charity.

On the other hand, I had seen this stickerred torso in various websites. One
of them is even in the inventory of
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=sp064#T=P

Unfortunately, most AFOL consider bricklink as the ultimate source and all that
is true about inventories. IT is really not. One commnet:
"Looking at bricklink it seems they were only used in 1978. They don't seem
too uncommon though, there are a few for sale on bricklink."

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/25056-classic-space-minifig-with-sticker/

Having worked with inventory of vintage trains from 70-80, I am 100% sure non
of them were inventories based on a sealed set rather they were inventoried by
checking the instructions. All mistakes I see come from instructions. Whenever
something is missing is because it is not present in its instructions or on the
box
I don't know about stickerred minifigs and I don't know if the space
sets were inventoried the same way as train sets.
Hopefully some collector see this post and write an anwser.
Some people discussed it here
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1054822

I had forgotten to attach my photos.


In Inventories Requests, mockingbird writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I got an excellent lot including some train sets and space sets. The condition
of all sets is excellent considering the age. Boxes are in good or very good
condition and sets are complete including instructions.

SNIP

Is it not a bit 'dangerous' to change set inventories based on a big
lot of used lego. Even if the sets seem to be complete and in good condition.

Such a change should only be made if the source of the existing inventory is
not a sealed set.

Hi

Set 889 came with the stickered torso/minifig. Got this as my 2nd set when I
was 5-6y old.

Later they changed the Space minfigs and all came with printed torso.


Stefaan
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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 926  Name: Command Centre (Center)
* 
926-1 (Inv) Command Centre (Center)
147 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp064 Classic Space - Red with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 4)
* Change 2 Minifig sp005 Classic Space - Red with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 3}
* Change 2 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 4}

I'm not overly familiar with these stickered torso figures. I'm not
sure if they come from the existence of these sheets:

[P=SPACEstk01]
[P=SPACEstk02]

which came, I'm told, from TLG customer service only (read the additional
catalog notes for the sticker sheets), or if the torso stickered figures were
included in new sets.

The question which should be answered before we proceed here is whether the torsos
with stickers already applied were included in sealed sets or not. I'm sure
someone here knows the answer to that . . . ?

I know I had some of these stickered minifigs when I was a child. Of course these
sets are around 40 years old so I don't remember the exact details, but as
far as I remember some sets came with plain red or white torsos and sticker sheets
with the torso stickers.

Based on Bricklink inventory guidelines I guess this means that stickered minifigs
should be added as counterparts and minifigs with plain red and white torsos
should be added as alternates for the minifigs with printed torsos.
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I don't call it a big lot of used sets. It is the following item
173205892929
I am amazed how all sets were neat and complete in their boxes. Only the small
space sets missed their boxes.
More interesting is that there was a letter inside the set 7725 which was the
answer of a Lego sale manager concerning the set 7725 and how to use transformer.
The owner was overly organized.
The older train 171 may not have come from the same buyer. The seller of this
item received donation to sell and spend for the charity.

On the other hand, I had seen this stickerred torso in various websites. One
of them is even in the inventory of
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?M=sp064#T=P

Unfortunately, most AFOL consider bricklink as the ultimate source and all that
is true about inventories. IT is really not. One commnet:
"Looking at bricklink it seems they were only used in 1978. They don't seem
too uncommon though, there are a few for sale on bricklink."

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/25056-classic-space-minifig-with-sticker/

Having worked with inventory of vintage trains from 70-80, I am 100% sure non
of them were inventories based on a sealed set rather they were inventoried by
checking the instructions. All mistakes I see come from instructions. Whenever
something is missing is because it is not present in its instructions or on the
box
I don't know about stickerred minifigs and I don't know if the space
sets were inventoried the same way as train sets.
Hopefully some collector see this post and write an anwser.
Some people discussed it here
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1054822

I had forgotten to attach my photos.


In Inventories Requests, mockingbird writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I got an excellent lot including some train sets and space sets. The condition
of all sets is excellent considering the age. Boxes are in good or very good
condition and sets are complete including instructions.

SNIP

Is it not a bit 'dangerous' to change set inventories based on a big
lot of used lego. Even if the sets seem to be complete and in good condition.

Such a change should only be made if the source of the existing inventory is
not a sealed set.
 










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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  I got an excellent lot including some train sets and space sets. The condition
of all sets is excellent considering the age. Boxes are in good or very good
condition and sets are complete including instructions.

SNIP

Is it not a bit 'dangerous' to change set inventories based on a big
lot of used lego. Even if the sets seem to be complete and in good condition.

Such a change should only be made if the source of the existing inventory is
not a sealed set.
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In Inventories Requests, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 891  Name: Two-Man Scooter
* 
891-1 (Inv) Two-Man Scooter
35 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1979
Sets: Space: Classic Space

* Add 1 Minifig sp063 Classic Space - White with Airtanks, Stickered Torso Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Minifig sp006 Classic Space - White with Airtanks {match ID 0 to 1}

10000th inventory change request

Congratulations, SezaR! I always knew you were capable of this achievement.

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