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 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 21, 2018 15:15
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6923-1
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el_gordo (8)

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In Inventories Requests, StormChaser writes:
  In Inventories Requests, el_gordo writes:
  * Change 2 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)} {Alternate to Regular}

Is there a reason for moving the part from alternate to regular or was this an
error when submitting the form?

An error! Thank you.
The up/down keys in my new PC are half-size, sometimes I miss the proper hit.
As a sidenote, could this image be given added prominence in the set's page?
http://www.bricklink.com/TL/2667.jpg
Pedro
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Mar 21, 2018 14:08
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6923-1
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StormChaser (569)

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In Inventories Requests, el_gordo writes:
  * Change 2 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)} {Alternate to Regular}

Is there a reason for moving the part from alternate to regular or was this an
error when submitting the form?
 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 21, 2018 13:42
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6872-1
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el_gordo (8)

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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  Normally old inventories with no source are unreliable when it comes to variants.
This particular submitter, though, is an expert on Classic Space, and when I
have contacted him in the past he has been able to defend all of his old inventories
with sealed set contents.

To be clear, my earlier comment wasn't meant to question the original submitter's
good faith; I realize it could have been inferred as such, which was unintended.

But to follow up on a previous remark, how can we know b-type is more common
(cf: rules) from a sample of one, anyway?
I can't dismiss the original inventory as innacurate; what I can do is ask
for further input from others to establish precedence between versions, thus
properly following the rules as they stand. I suppose a review of the rules themselves
would be out of the question?

In the meanwhile - please advise how to proceed. Should I add a-type as alternate,
for the sake of inclusion?
Pedro
 Author: samsam2 View Messages Posted By samsam2
 Posted: Mar 21, 2018 13:38
 Subject: Re: Bricklink: please clean up incomplete sets
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I used to report errors of incomplete sets listed as complete using the Bricklink
problem center form, and it used to work a while ago, but the requests stopped
being acted upon, (even the most blatant examples), so I stopped submitting them.

  
Yes all of them - I was thinking of a database query and automated email or
something like that. But really I was just venting some frustration. I know Bricklink
isn't going to do anything about this.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Mar 21, 2018 12:57
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 857-1
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It's not so much that the instructions were wrong. The early Technic sets
each had a history of significant improvements. Many of them have multiple versions
of instructions (see this Bricklist):

https://brickset.com/sets/list-18333

...and often there are further improvements visible from box photos and early
advertising (see this post - corrected links are posted later in the thread):

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1027168

In this case it appears Lego added 2 more of the "new" 16-tooth gears to replace
a 24-tooth and an 8-tooth. This was likely to reduce the speed of the engine
when the model was being pushed fast.

Typically parts were simply added to the roster when improvements were made.
So I would say that there should be 2 regular and 1 extra of the small gears.
2 are necessary anyway to build the lathe shown on the side of the box (and 4
of the 24-tooth gears).

The 40-tooth gear isn't necessary to build any of the models, btw - it's
used for adding an electric motor. But growing up, this was the only 40-tooth
gear I had, so I was glad they included it! It should of course remain in the
Regular section.

In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  A good photo of the box:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ntZG0QtAV-A/SzDuojs_WUI/AAAAAAAAAiY/rFLCCy_RJoA/s1600/PIC_0637.JPG

In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Now I remember better
On the box, middle top, the gears on the engine are different than what we can
find in instructions. At the time, I was puzzled and proud for this discovery.
There were also some mistakes in the instructions.
We can see in the image that two small gears 3647 were used. Indeed, on the right
side, two
 
Part No: 4019  Name: Technic, Gear 16 Tooth - Axle Hole with Open Sides
* 
4019 Technic, Gear 16 Tooth - Axle Hole with Open Sides
Parts: Technic, Gear
were replaced by one
 
Part No: 3647  Name: Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
* 
3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
Parts: Technic, Gear
and one
 
Part No: x187  Name: Technic, Gear 24 Tooth with 3 Axle Holes
* 
x187 Technic, Gear 24 Tooth with 3 Axle Holes
Parts: Technic, Gear
.
There were a third 3647 as extra.
I don't know one 3647 should be added as regular and one as extra or two
as extras.

In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  This may help:
One gear 3647 is used for the main model. If you check the instructions, after
the end of main model, it shows how to add a motor. I believe the second 3647
is meant for this putting on the motor. There was also an extra.

For many years, this set was my sole source of technic parts.

In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  From my childhood collection: My precious!

In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 857  Name: Motorcycle
* 
857-1 (Inv) Motorcycle
410 Parts, 1979
Sets: Technic: Expert Builder

* Add 1 Part x88 Black Rubber Band Small (Square Cross Section) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3711 Black Technic, Link Chain (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3900 Light Gray Minifig, Utensil Signal Paddle (Extra)
* Add 2 Part 3647 Light Gray Technic, Gear 8 Tooth Type 1 (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3024 Trans-Red Plate 1 x 1 (Extra)

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