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 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:50
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 5561-1
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SezaR (1396)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5561  Name: Big Foot 4x4
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5561-1 (Inv) Big Foot 4x4
749 Parts, 1997
Sets: Model Team

* Change 4 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:49
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
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Set No: 5571  Name: Giant Truck
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5571-1 (Inv) Giant Truck
1743 Parts, 1996
Sets: Model Team

* Change 7 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:47
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 5581-1
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
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Set No: 5581  Name: Magic Flash
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5581-1 (Inv) Magic Flash
788 Parts, 1993
Sets: Model Team

* Change 4 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 3 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:46
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 10151-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10151  Name: Hot Rod
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10151-1 (Inv) Hot Rod
421 Parts, 2004
Sets: Model Team: Legends

* Change 1 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:43
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 5541-1
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5541  Name: Blue Fury
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5541-1 (Inv) Blue Fury
421 Parts, 1995
Sets: Model Team

* Change 2 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 2 Part Red {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 1 Part Blue {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:41
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 5580-1
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5580  Name: Highway Rig
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5580-1 (Inv) Highway Rig
636 Parts, 1986
Sets: Model Team

* Change 9 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 3 Part White {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:40
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 5590-1
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5590  Name: Whirl N' Wheel Super Truck
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5590-1 (Inv) Whirl N' Wheel Super Truck
1026 Parts, 1990
Sets: Model Team

* Change 7 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 8 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:38
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 5510-1
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Store: Sezar's trains
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5510  Name: Off Road 4x4
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5510-1 (Inv) Off Road 4x4
275 Parts, 1986
Sets: Model Team

* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 3 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:32
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 10000-1
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el_gordo (8)

Location:  Portugal
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 10000  Name: Guarded Inn
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10000-1 (Inv) Guarded Inn
233 Parts, 4 Minifigures, 2001
Sets: Castle: Lion Knights: Legends

* Change 2 Part Black {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - Undetermined Underside to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}
* Change 1 Part Black {3049 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double / Inverted - Undetermined Underside to 3049b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double / Inverted - without Bottom Tube or Bottom Stud Holder}

Comments from Submitter:
Verified from newly-opened MISB set.
 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:23
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 2710-1
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el_gordo (8)

Location:  Portugal
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In Inventories Requests, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories Requests, el_gordo writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 2710  Name: Helicopter polybag
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2710-1 (Inv) Helicopter polybag
8 Parts, 2000
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Model

* Change 1 Part {Dark Gray to Black} 4617 Propeller 3 Blade 5.5 Diameter

Comments from Submitter:
Verified from looking inside a sealed polybag. Also, more importantly: this set comes in TWO separate polybags (hence, the "1" in the picture). How does one adress this for inventary purposes? Please advise.

I'm not entirely sure what the "1" stands for in this case. It could be part
of a promotional series which included non-Lego toys. It's hard to say, since
polybags with identical set numbers were sometimes used in different markets
or at different times and had different packaging. Hence this set:
 
Set No: 2135  Name: Sabah Promotional Set: Aircraft polybag
* 
2135-1 (Inv) Sabah Promotional Set: Aircraft polybag
9 Parts, 1997
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic Model
...where the large image shows a bag without the number "2".

I respectfully disagree; I am *entirely* sure the 1 and 2 stand for two halves
of the same set, because:
a) I have a copy of either number (see photos);
b) the polybags are at least partially transparent;
c) I could perform both visual and tactile checks on the contents of both, and
can say with certainty: each bag has only 4 parts, not repeated from bag 1 to
bag 2.

I have in fact managed to list which parts are in which bag, but must humbly
admit my lack of skills to carry out the required update of the database (re:
create 2 subsets, like in advent calendars, I suppose).
Feel free to use my photos for inventory purposes; in fact, I took them months
ago and then forgot all about this inventory change request - please accept my
apologies for the negligence.
 


 Author: alahaka View Messages Posted By alahaka
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 21:08
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alahaka (645)

Location:  USA, California
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Store Closed Store: Sairai
If you select PayPal Marketplace as picabo suggests, you will not be able to
revert back to your current Onsite PayPal method.

There was little information required to enable Onsite PayPal (whether complete
or incomplete as BrickLink information goes), however PayPal Marketplace in my
opinion is a more intrusive agreement.

I need to read this entire thread carefully, however I believe the answer to
your question is not available, unless BrickLink has clearly stated they will
push everyone wanting to use PayPal to the PayPal Marketplace as the only option.

In Suggestions, mikmo writes:
  I am completely lost here.

If i already have PayPal onsite activated, do i have to sign up for PayPal marketplace
to continue to recieve PayPal payments, og will the current PayPal onsite method
continue to work also a month from now?

Mikael / MikMo
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 20:59
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Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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Store Closed Store: BuyerOnly
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In Suggestions, RecycledBrick writes:
  
  What you missed is that you already agreed for BrickLink to:
— look into your PP transactions
— block payments and decide refunds.

I didn't miss those. How is Bricklink going access my PayPal account? It
doesn't matter what agreement is made, how do they get into it? I am just
wondering.

I answered your last paragraph: “I haven't noticed anything different or
what is so bad about
each either. If there is something different or bad, what am I missing?”

You can’t broaden up a question then narrow it down again when the answer doesn’t
suit you.


  
  ), you’ll see automatic fees is strongly considered.
And I think you already agreed to that

It would probably be better since I never use the My BL page for anything, I
don't see the reminder to pay the fees for Bricklink. It might be easier
this way but then it would be something that Bricklink would have to set up with
PayPal and I don't see that happening anytime soon. You also can disconnect
your PayPal account at anytime so no one is forced into this.

Sellers are forced into it when they can’t choose any other payment method than
PayPal Marketplaces.

Buyers are forced into it when they can’t choose any offsite payment method.
 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 20:55
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 740-1
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Location:  Portugal
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 740  Name: Basic Building Set
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740-1 (Inv) Basic Building Set
524 Parts, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 4 Part Yellow {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
All jumpers in the 20th century were the same, ungrooved type
 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 20:52
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Location:  Portugal
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 720  Name: Basic Building Set
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720-1 (Inv) Basic Building Set
324 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Basic

* Change 1 Part Light Gray {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
All jumpers in the 20th century were the same, ungrooved type
 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 20:50
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Location:  Portugal
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 1655  Name: Viking Line Ferry
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1655-1 (Inv) Viking Line Ferry
176 Parts, 1985
Sets: Universal Building Set: Ferries

* Change 1 Part White {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
All jumpers in the 20th century were the same, ungrooved type.
 Author: el_gordo View Messages Posted By el_gordo
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 20:46
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Location:  Portugal
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6062  Name: Battering Ram
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6062-1 (Inv) Battering Ram
214 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 1987
Sets: Castle: Black Falcons

* Change 3 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}

Comments from Submitter:
All jumpers in the 20th century were the same, ungrooved type. Other versions are comparatively recent.
 Author: PurpleDave View Messages Posted By PurpleDave
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 20:44
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PurpleDave (969)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Suggestions, RecycledBrick writes:
  I didn't miss those. How is Bricklink going access my PayPal account? It
doesn't matter what agreement is made, how do they get into it? I am just
wondering.

They won't be able to log into your account directly, from the way people
are reading it. They _will_ be able to contact Paypal and request a chargeback
which Paypal will probably cheerfully comply with without asking any questions
(and if you're really unlucky, like a guy in my LUG was, Paypal will charge
you a fee for "representing" you when they surrender like Jar-Jar). They _will_
be able to inform Paypal that X money should be diverted to Bricklink as the
owner of the "marketplace".
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 20:39
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Location:  Canada, Alberta
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Store: Maple Bricks
In Suggestions, RecycledBrick writes:
  
  What you missed is that you already agreed for BrickLink to:
— look into your PP transactions
— block payments and decide refunds.

I didn't miss those. How is Bricklink going access my PayPal account? It
doesn't matter what agreement is made, how do they get into it? I am just
wondering.

They don’t, and they can’t. BL has control over the BL-initiated transactions,
but only so they can request PP to delay the payment, subtract a fee, and/or
initiate a refund. They can’t reroute the transaction into their own account,
they can’t access (or even see) your non-BL transactions, it is solely more control
over the payment flow for BL-initiated PP transactions.

Niek.
 Author: PurpleDave View Messages Posted By PurpleDave
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PurpleDave (969)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Suggestions, RecycledBrick writes:
  If there is something different or bad, what am I missing?

Did you ever sign on to a public wifi network and get a warning that even if
the site you're viewing is secure, someone could still be watching the whole
time via the network? Did you ever go into a seedy internet café and log into
all of your bank accounts from every computer in the place? No? Why not? Was
it because you didn't want to worry about what sort of malware might be lurking
in the background, logging all of your keystrokes? Right now Bricklink is the
internet café terminal, telling you that in order to actually use their services,
you have to use their computer to submit payment to them.

It doesn't matter that Bricklink doesn't have you store your login info
on their server. It's the idea of loading Bricklink on the computer that
I use to access financial accounts, after they were hacked so badly that the
entire site was shut down for days...on two separate occasions. Bricklink goes
on Computer A. Paypal goes on Computer B. If they can figure out how to manage
an Onsite Paypal payment by logging into Paypal on a different computer, I'm
fine with that. If they want me to initiate a popup window to process the payment
by clicking on a button on Bricklink, they need to go back to the drawing board.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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In Suggestions, RecycledBrick writes:
  […]
Since I have offered Onsite payments since it started and Marketplaces since
it was started, I haven't noticed anything different or what is so bad about
each either. If there is something different or bad, what am I missing?

What you missed is that you already agreed for BrickLink to:
— look into your PP transactions
— block payments and decide refunds.

BL didn’t make any statement about their intentions. (And, anyway, intentions
can change.)

BL didn’t either explain what will happen to those who refuse to agree to Marketplaces.

And if you watch Big B Bricks’ interview of Jaclyn ( https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1081977
), you’ll see automatic fees is strongly considered.
And I think you already agreed to that.
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
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legoman77 (3628)

Location:  USA, Texas
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Jan 22, 2003 Contact Member Seller
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Store: 77's Bricks & Sets
In Suggestions, PurpleDave writes:
  In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  Could a seller put in his terms 'Please pay directly through the paypal site
to XXXXX.net (PayPal address)? That would take it out of bricklinks venue.
That could even be put into the listing.

Maybe. Then the problem is going through the thousands of sellers here and asking
them to add this to their terms, along with a viable means of payment that can
be selected as a placeholder.

  About the hacks,I did mention that before. Bricklink has trouble getting features
to work why should the sellers feel confident that the same people can prevent
hacking?

I've been throwing that out there as the primary reason why only offering
onsite payment is a dumb idea. I'd feel safer dropping my driver's license,
social security card, all credit/debit cards, and the account numbers and passwords
to all of my bank accounts into my mailbox for a day and hoping nobody noticed.
Bricklink and Paypal do not get to play on the same computer in my home, which
makes paying by any onsite payment option about as problematic as having a Chinese
space station land on your head (and I hear that may be a possibility for me
around the same time this fiasco is scheduled to burn down, fall over, and sink
into the swamp).

It is a shame how stubborn Bricklink has become. It was a community at one time,
almost a family. Now it is just them.
John P
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PurpleDave (969)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  Really not sure how this decision was made

Dartboard.

  or why

Prodigious amounts of alcohol combined with world-record-setting span of sleep
deprivation.
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PurpleDave (969)

Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Suggestions, legoman77 writes:
  Could a seller put in his terms 'Please pay directly through the paypal site
to XXXXX.net (PayPal address)? That would take it out of bricklinks venue.
That could even be put into the listing.

Maybe. Then the problem is going through the thousands of sellers here and asking
them to add this to their terms, along with a viable means of payment that can
be selected as a placeholder.

  About the hacks,I did mention that before. Bricklink has trouble getting features
to work why should the sellers feel confident that the same people can prevent
hacking?

I've been throwing that out there as the primary reason why only offering
onsite payment is a dumb idea. I'd feel safer dropping my driver's license,
social security card, all credit/debit cards, and the account numbers and passwords
to all of my bank accounts into my mailbox for a day and hoping nobody noticed.
Bricklink and Paypal do not get to play on the same computer in my home, which
makes paying by any onsite payment option about as problematic as having a Chinese
space station land on your head (and I hear that may be a possibility for me
around the same time this fiasco is scheduled to burn down, fall over, and sink
into the swamp).
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Location:  USA, Michigan
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Store: Go Blue Bricks
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 60064  Name: Arctic Supply Plane
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60064-1 (Inv) Arctic Supply Plane
361 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2014
Sets: Town: City: Arctic

* Add 1 Part 11293pb003 Orange Aircraft Fuselage Curved Forward 6 x 8 Top with Arctic Explorer Logo Pattern (Sticker) - Set 60034 (Counterpart)

Comments from Submitter:
This part should be included as a counterpart to set 60064, similar to 60034.
 Author: phyllisw8 View Messages Posted By phyllisw8
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phyllisw8 (5364)

Location:  USA, North Carolina
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Store: Parts Time Job
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7586  Name: Sunshine Home
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7586-1 (Inv) Sunshine Home
447 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2008
Sets: Belville: Playhouse

* Add 2 Part 4150pb185 Black Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Mirrored Magenta Circle Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7586 (Counterpart)
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Mar 19, 2018 14:39
 Subject: Bricklink: please clean up incomplete sets
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Brick.Door (7529)

Location:  USA, New York
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I recently listed another batch of used sets. Once again in reviewing prices
I found in most cases the cheapest one available for sale is listed as "complete"
but missing minifigures.

Bricklink can't you do a sweep of these errant listings and send the seller
a warning? Maybe query sets that are listed as complete but have the word "missing"
or "no minifigs" in the comments

I know you don't want to make changes automatically (the seller could have
written "no missing minifigures" or something) but it is a long and slow process
to find these one by one. And there are thousands of them listed.

Sounds like a lot of work? You are probably losing money too. The average
sold price is lower than it should be because so many incomplete sets are being
sold as complete. If sellers saw the real average price they would set their
prices higher and Bricklink would benefit from the higher commission.

For example I recently listed Star Wars set. The cheapest 3 currently available
(listed as complete) are $15, $20 and $24. None of them are complete according
to the sellers description.

The average sold for this set is $22 but since 3 of the sold sets were prices
$15, $15 and $21 they were probably incomplete but sold as complete and now are
polluting the price guide. The correct average sold is about $27
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Teup (6606)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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Store: BLOKJESKONING
In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  
Are they going to go through 11,000 stores and remove the Paypal option from
their payment methods when the April date comes around?

Well, no, they simply remove the old PayPal payment method from the main system
once, and then it will be as you say, people (like me) who haven't accepted
will automatically get an instruction to enable the new PayPal. That's what
I assume anyway.... then again, it's Bricklink... they can't even remove
multiple forum posts by one spammer at the same time...

I think they may have already done the first bit as I do not see a payment method
for Paypal or paypal offsite in the selectable payment methods options (drop
down). I really meant from the stores point of view. There are countless numbers
of stores who only accept Paypal - by disabling it as a payment method does that
mean the stores will have no payment methods? That will cause a moderate amount
of chaos. Not everyone reads the forum, by a long way and announcements such
as the one that was made will not have filtered through to all stores. So you
wake up the morning after and find that no one can check out of your store? Sounds
unreasonable even now, but who knows.

Really not sure how this decision was made or why - the ticket thing was a non-starter
- there is more to this than that. Instant checkout has still only mustered less
than 15% of stores - is still buggy. Onsite Paypal is still flawed as far as
a buyer having multiple Paypal addresses and yet here we are ...... ????????

I think I agree with your points, bad decision, but as for the "how" part, well,
I think the transition side of things is possible without too much chaos. I don't
remember exact examples but changes have been made in the past, we'll all
be briefed by email with some setup instructions I think. It was long ago but
I remember multiple currencies were first implemented at some point, and VAT,
and probably they came with instructions too.
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Location:  Italy, Veneto
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Here below I attach pictures of 8 different sealed Service packs: you can clearly
see that the paper 117983b is included in none of them.
 














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calsbricks (8518)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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Store: CalsBricks
In Suggestions, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
  In Suggestions, PurpleDave writes:
  Bricklink famously ground to a halt, twice, because it got hacked. The site
may have been restored to working condition, but a lot of us want nothing to
do with risking exposure of our financial accounts to anyone who may be lurking
behind the scenes. Sellers don't want to give Bricklink the level of control
required to accept payments through Bricklink. Bricklink has announced that
in about a month, they plan to scuttle offsite Paypal as a payment option, without
even taking any input from their core membership. The reason stated was that
new, usually one-time buyers, can't figure out where the payment button is
when they select offsite Paypal as a payment option, so they plan to basically
cut off any buyers and sellers who refuse to use any other form of payment, and
who especially want nothing to do with any onsite Paypal options.

Make offsite Paypal an opt-in payment option. Sellers obviously have to select
up front which payment options they will accept. Make all _buyers_ voluntarily
choose to see offsite Paypal as a payment option when checking out. If a seller
does not accept any other payment options, have them flagged as "does not ship
to you", just like if they were from another country and didn't have your
country enabled for shipping options. If a new buyer signs up, they should be
required to read an explanation of how offsite Paypal works, and confirm that
they want to be able to choose that as a payment option before they even see
it appear in lists.

But seriously, don't chase away a bunch of your regular customers in the
hope that you might be able to "grow your business" on the bank accounts of people
who just get sent here to buy a replacement part that LEGO Consumer Affairs can't
provide, or who are looking for just one retired set, and will never log in again
after they receive their shipment.

Was there not a page in my account settings where I could select my payment methods?
And a filter that hides stores that do not accept my payment types?

Then all what needs to be done is make the default setting for accepting Offsite
Paypal "OFF". (I would not recommend the name "offsite Paypal", I think that
name only makes sense within the current discussion. )

Maybe it was this one... https://www.bricklink.com/storeSettings.new.asp



And yes, save offsite Paypal as an option.

That page has been disabled for a while, however buyers can choose their acceptable
payment methods in the advanced search options and Paypal is still listed there.
Not sure about wanted lists cause I don't use that feature, but am sure I
have seen it mentioned somewhere.

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedSettings.asp?viewFrom=P

Thanks for the link - never been there before as wanted lists are not required
for our buying.


  
  Even the payment method element is flawed in design terms. We just had to cancel
an order from someone who chose to pay in euros via Bank Transfer. We only accept
UK pounds for bank transfers and that is/was stated in our terms but because
we aaccept euros (accepted currencies) they were allowed to choose that currency.
Currencies should be defined against payment methods. If you set up bank transfer
you should be able to say GBP only and have that as a viable payment methods.
Again it is not a complicated thing to do - you could have an all radio button
or individual buttons which would need to be marked by the stores for what they
will accept.

They have gone the other way - here are the currencies we accept and here are
ther payment methods you can use. ?????????
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 5063  Name: Power Supply Rail
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5063-1 (Inv) Power Supply Rail
1 Part, 1987
Sets: Service Packs: Train

* Delete 1 Part 117983b (Not Applicable) Paper, Information Note, Special Suppressor Rail with Wire and Connector - 117983
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Brickwilbo (1534)

Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
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In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
  In Suggestions, PurpleDave writes:
  Bricklink famously ground to a halt, twice, because it got hacked. The site
may have been restored to working condition, but a lot of us want nothing to
do with risking exposure of our financial accounts to anyone who may be lurking
behind the scenes. Sellers don't want to give Bricklink the level of control
required to accept payments through Bricklink. Bricklink has announced that
in about a month, they plan to scuttle offsite Paypal as a payment option, without
even taking any input from their core membership. The reason stated was that
new, usually one-time buyers, can't figure out where the payment button is
when they select offsite Paypal as a payment option, so they plan to basically
cut off any buyers and sellers who refuse to use any other form of payment, and
who especially want nothing to do with any onsite Paypal options.

Make offsite Paypal an opt-in payment option. Sellers obviously have to select
up front which payment options they will accept. Make all _buyers_ voluntarily
choose to see offsite Paypal as a payment option when checking out. If a seller
does not accept any other payment options, have them flagged as "does not ship
to you", just like if they were from another country and didn't have your
country enabled for shipping options. If a new buyer signs up, they should be
required to read an explanation of how offsite Paypal works, and confirm that
they want to be able to choose that as a payment option before they even see
it appear in lists.

But seriously, don't chase away a bunch of your regular customers in the
hope that you might be able to "grow your business" on the bank accounts of people
who just get sent here to buy a replacement part that LEGO Consumer Affairs can't
provide, or who are looking for just one retired set, and will never log in again
after they receive their shipment.

Was there not a page in my account settings where I could select my payment methods?
And a filter that hides stores that do not accept my payment types?

Then all what needs to be done is make the default setting for accepting Offsite
Paypal "OFF". (I would not recommend the name "offsite Paypal", I think that
name only makes sense within the current discussion. )

Maybe it was this one... https://www.bricklink.com/storeSettings.new.asp



And yes, save offsite Paypal as an option.

That page has been disabled for a while, however buyers can choose their acceptable
payment methods in the advanced search options and Paypal is still listed there.
Not sure about wanted lists cause I don't use that feature, but am sure I
have seen it mentioned somewhere.

https://www.bricklink.com/wantedSettings.asp?viewFrom=P

  
Even the payment method element is flawed in design terms. We just had to cancel
an order from someone who chose to pay in euros via Bank Transfer. We only accept
UK pounds for bank transfers and that is/was stated in our terms but because
we aaccept euros (accepted currencies) they were allowed to choose that currency.
Currencies should be defined against payment methods. If you set up bank transfer
you should be able to say GBP only and have that as a viable payment methods.
Again it is not a complicated thing to do - you could have an all radio button
or individual buttons which would need to be marked by the stores for what they
will accept.

They have gone the other way - here are the currencies we accept and here are
ther payment methods you can use. ?????????
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Location:  Netherlands, Gelderland
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In Suggestions, chetzler writes:
  I'm curious if BL will continue to offer the multitude other off-sites methods.
Anyone looked at what is still available? There's a bunch I've never
even heard of, and seriously, is a Western Union transfer a better option than
PayPal off-site?

New Stores can't add Offsite Payment Methods since 8th June 2017.
IBAN is an exception after completing the New Seller Verification process.
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Location:  Germany, Berlin
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Store: Area of Bricks 'n Studs
Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Minifig No: frnd241  Name: Friends Olivia (Nougat) - Bright Light Yellow Vest over Dark Azure Shirt and Dark Pink Tie, Dark Pink Shorts
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frnd241 (Inv) Friends Olivia (Nougat) - Bright Light Yellow Vest over Dark Azure Shirt and Dark Pink Tie, Dark Pink Shorts
Minifigures: Friends

* Change 1 Part {Medium Dark Flesh to Flesh} 37588 Mini Doll, Head Friends with Light Brown Eyes and Glasses with Silver Frames, Magenta Lips and Closed Mouth Pattern
* Change 1 Part {Medium Dark Flesh to Flesh} FTFpb169c01 Torso Mini Doll Friends Bright Light Yellow Vest with Zippers over Dark Azure Shirt and Dark Pink Tie, Flesh Arms with Hands
 Author: jblock View Messages Posted By jblock
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Location:  USA, Illinois
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Store Closed Store: Someday Soon
In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  Since the change was made to put the large "% Praise" at the top of each store
front page neutral and negative feedback are basically the same thing.

This is not obvious to customers leaving feedback - especially new members.

I suggest to exclude neutral transactions from the % Praise calculation - treat
them the same as if no feedback had been left. This seems more accurate than
counting them as negative.

Also I find it strange that the % praise is calculated to 2 decimal places. Does
anyone really think a 99.74 seller is more trustworthy than 99.68? There are
no standards or guidelines for what makes a positive/neutral/negative transaction
-- it is up to the individual opinion. So there is no way this figure is
that accurate.

Maybe it's time to put in a system similar to eBay's, where only the
last 12 months of feedback figure into the % and your rating. It may mask some
unpleasantness from your initial subpar years of dealings on the site, but if
a seller has nothing but positive ratings for the past 12 months, it's a
good indication that they turned a corner from their misspent BL youth. It also
forces a "what have you done for me lately" attitude on the site; those mega-sellers
with 100K feedback whose customer service efforts are starting to slip will see
their recent feedback % start to similarly go downhill (or alternately, this
will wipe out a portion of negative feedback from years past from those buyers
who will never be satisfied no matter how good the service...).

Pros and cons, just like any change, but might be something to consider.
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Location:  USA, Texas
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Store: 77's Bricks & Sets
In Suggestions, PurpleDave writes:
  Bricklink famously ground to a halt, twice, because it got hacked. The site
may have been restored to working condition, but a lot of us want nothing to
do with risking exposure of our financial accounts to anyone who may be lurking
behind the scenes. Sellers don't want to give Bricklink the level of control
required to accept payments through Bricklink. Bricklink has announced that
in about a month, they plan to scuttle offsite Paypal as a payment option, without
even taking any input from their core membership. The reason stated was that
new, usually one-time buyers, can't figure out where the payment button is
when they select offsite Paypal as a payment option, so they plan to basically
cut off any buyers and sellers who refuse to use any other form of payment, and
who especially want nothing to do with any onsite Paypal options.

Make offsite Paypal an opt-in payment option. Sellers obviously have to select
up front which payment options they will accept. Make all _buyers_ voluntarily
choose to see offsite Paypal as a payment option when checking out. If a seller
does not accept any other payment options, have them flagged as "does not ship
to you", just like if they were from another country and didn't have your
country enabled for shipping options. If a new buyer signs up, they should be
required to read an explanation of how offsite Paypal works, and confirm that
they want to be able to choose that as a payment option before they even see
it appear in lists.

But seriously, don't chase away a bunch of your regular customers in the
hope that you might be able to "grow your business" on the bank accounts of people
who just get sent here to buy a replacement part that LEGO Consumer Affairs can't
provide, or who are looking for just one retired set, and will never log in again
after they receive their shipment.

Could a seller put in his terms 'Please pay directly through the paypal site
to XXXXX.net (PayPal address)? That would take it out of bricklinks venue.
That could even be put into the listing.
About the hacks,I did mention that before. Bricklink has trouble getting features
to work why should the sellers feel confident that the same people can prevent
hacking?
John P
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Location:  USA, Rhode Island
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In Suggestions, mikmo writes:
  I am completely lost here.

If i already have PayPal onsite activated, do i have to sign up for PayPal marketplace
to continue to recieve PayPal payments, og will the current PayPal onsite method
continue to work also a month from now?

Mikael / MikMo

You need to go Settings--Store Settings.Payment methods. Connect to Marketplace.

Please note if you have a regular and micropayment account. Make sure you sign
in with the correct Paypal address for each. I inadvertently switched them (since
the Paypal account that came up to sign in was the one I most recently used).
I figured it out when a payment went to micropayments instead of the regular.

To fix just disconnect and reconnect signing in to the correct one. Payments
are now going to the correct accounts.

Just FYI.
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Location:  Denmark
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I am completely lost here.

If i already have PayPal onsite activated, do i have to sign up for PayPal marketplace
to continue to recieve PayPal payments, og will the current PayPal onsite method
continue to work also a month from now?

Mikael / MikMo
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
  In Suggestions, PurpleDave writes:
  Bricklink famously ground to a halt, twice, because it got hacked. The site
may have been restored to working condition, but a lot of us want nothing to
do with risking exposure of our financial accounts to anyone who may be lurking
behind the scenes. Sellers don't want to give Bricklink the level of control
required to accept payments through Bricklink. Bricklink has announced that
in about a month, they plan to scuttle offsite Paypal as a payment option, without
even taking any input from their core membership. The reason stated was that
new, usually one-time buyers, can't figure out where the payment button is
when they select offsite Paypal as a payment option, so they plan to basically
cut off any buyers and sellers who refuse to use any other form of payment, and
who especially want nothing to do with any onsite Paypal options.

Make offsite Paypal an opt-in payment option. Sellers obviously have to select
up front which payment options they will accept. Make all _buyers_ voluntarily
choose to see offsite Paypal as a payment option when checking out. If a seller
does not accept any other payment options, have them flagged as "does not ship
to you", just like if they were from another country and didn't have your
country enabled for shipping options. If a new buyer signs up, they should be
required to read an explanation of how offsite Paypal works, and confirm that
they want to be able to choose that as a payment option before they even see
it appear in lists.

But seriously, don't chase away a bunch of your regular customers in the
hope that you might be able to "grow your business" on the bank accounts of people
who just get sent here to buy a replacement part that LEGO Consumer Affairs can't
provide, or who are looking for just one retired set, and will never log in again
after they receive their shipment.

Was there not a page in my account settings where I could select my payment methods?
And a filter that hides stores that do not accept my payment types?

Then all what needs to be done is make the default setting for accepting Offsite
Paypal "OFF". (I would not recommend the name "offsite Paypal", I think that
name only makes sense within the current discussion. )

Maybe it was this one... https://www.bricklink.com/storeSettings.new.asp



And yes, save offsite Paypal as an option.

That page has been disabled for a while, however buyers can choose their acceptable
payment methods in the advanced search options and Paypal is still listed there.
Not sure about wanted lists cause I don't use that feature, but am sure I
have seen it mentioned somewhere.

Even the payment method element is flawed in design terms. We just had to cancel
an order from someone who chose to pay in euros via Bank Transfer. We only accept
UK pounds for bank transfers and that is/was stated in our terms but because
we aaccept euros (accepted currencies) they were allowed to choose that currency.
Currencies should be defined against payment methods. If you set up bank transfer
you should be able to say GBP only and have that as a viable payment methods.
Again it is not a complicated thing to do - you could have an all radio button
or individual buttons which would need to be marked by the stores for what they
will accept.

They have gone the other way - here are the currencies we accept and here are
ther payment methods you can use. ?????????
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  
Are they going to go through 11,000 stores and remove the Paypal option from
their payment methods when the April date comes around?

Well, no, they simply remove the old PayPal payment method from the main system
once, and then it will be as you say, people (like me) who haven't accepted
will automatically get an instruction to enable the new PayPal. That's what
I assume anyway.... then again, it's Bricklink... they can't even remove
multiple forum posts by one spammer at the same time...

I think they may have already done the first bit as I do not see a payment method
for Paypal or paypal offsite in the selectable payment methods options (drop
down). I really meant from the stores point of view. There are countless numbers
of stores who only accept Paypal - by disabling it as a payment method does that
mean the stores will have no payment methods? That will cause a moderate amount
of chaos. Not everyone reads the forum, by a long way and announcements such
as the one that was made will not have filtered through to all stores. So you
wake up the morning after and find that no one can check out of your store? Sounds
unreasonable even now, but who knows.

Really not sure how this decision was made or why - the ticket thing was a non-starter
- there is more to this than that. Instant checkout has still only mustered less
than 15% of stores - is still buggy. Onsite Paypal is still flawed as far as
a buyer having multiple Paypal addresses and yet here we are ...... ????????
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
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7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 4274 Light Gray Technic, Pin 1/2 (Extra)
 


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Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  
Are they going to go through 11,000 stores and remove the Paypal option from
their payment methods when the April date comes around?

Well, no, they simply remove the old PayPal payment method from the main system
once, and then it will be as you say, people (like me) who haven't accepted
will automatically get an instruction to enable the new PayPal. That's what
I assume anyway.... then again, it's Bricklink... they can't even remove
multiple forum posts by one spammer at the same time...
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
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7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V

* Add 1 Part 4274 Light Gray Technic, Pin 1/2 (Extra)
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Location:  USA, Michigan
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In Suggestions, WoutR writes:
  Was there not a page in my account settings where I could select my payment methods?
And a filter that hides stores that do not accept my payment types?

I know stores can select which payment options to accept. I also know that when
looking up an item in the catalog, you can filter by any type of payment option.
Once you get to the Wanted List level, the only option I can find is "store
accepts Instant Checkout", which is worthless to me. There _used_ to be an option
there where you could select "store accepts X payment option" I believe, but
it's been geared more towards their vision of the future now. I have no
idea where you can set a global default for buyer payment options, but I'd
really love to know where that might be. Although, in a month, there might be
no point, as I'm not going to buy here if I can't do offsite payment.
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Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
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In Suggestions, PurpleDave writes:
  Bricklink famously ground to a halt, twice, because it got hacked. The site
may have been restored to working condition, but a lot of us want nothing to
do with risking exposure of our financial accounts to anyone who may be lurking
behind the scenes. Sellers don't want to give Bricklink the level of control
required to accept payments through Bricklink. Bricklink has announced that
in about a month, they plan to scuttle offsite Paypal as a payment option, without
even taking any input from their core membership. The reason stated was that
new, usually one-time buyers, can't figure out where the payment button is
when they select offsite Paypal as a payment option, so they plan to basically
cut off any buyers and sellers who refuse to use any other form of payment, and
who especially want nothing to do with any onsite Paypal options.

Make offsite Paypal an opt-in payment option. Sellers obviously have to select
up front which payment options they will accept. Make all _buyers_ voluntarily
choose to see offsite Paypal as a payment option when checking out. If a seller
does not accept any other payment options, have them flagged as "does not ship
to you", just like if they were from another country and didn't have your
country enabled for shipping options. If a new buyer signs up, they should be
required to read an explanation of how offsite Paypal works, and confirm that
they want to be able to choose that as a payment option before they even see
it appear in lists.

But seriously, don't chase away a bunch of your regular customers in the
hope that you might be able to "grow your business" on the bank accounts of people
who just get sent here to buy a replacement part that LEGO Consumer Affairs can't
provide, or who are looking for just one retired set, and will never log in again
after they receive their shipment.

Was there not a page in my account settings where I could select my payment methods?
And a filter that hides stores that do not accept my payment types?

Then all what needs to be done is make the default setting for accepting Offsite
Paypal "OFF". (I would not recommend the name "offsite Paypal", I think that
name only makes sense within the current discussion. )

Maybe it was this one... https://www.bricklink.com/storeSettings.new.asp



And yes, save offsite Paypal as an option.
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Thanks. I don't have the part from the right side unfortunately.
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 41095  Name: Emma's House
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41095-1 (Inv) Emma's House
694 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Friends

* Add 1 Part 2454pb128 Lavender Brick 1 x 2 x 5 with Dragonfly and Flowers Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41095 (Counterpart)
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 41095  Name: Emma's House
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41095-1 (Inv) Emma's House
694 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2015
Sets: Friends

* Add 1 Part 2454pb127 Lavender Brick 1 x 2 x 5 with Girl and Lime Parrot Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41095 (Counterpart)
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Suggestions, chetzler writes:
  I'm curious if BL will continue to offer the multitude other off-sites methods.
Anyone looked at what is still available? There's a bunch I've never
even heard of, and seriously, is a Western Union transfer a better option than
PayPal off-site?

Our Paypal account works for both Bricklink and our main company - there is absolutely
no way ever that we would allow Bricklink access to funds in that account or
details of transactions in that account - it is really none of their business.
I am sure that other people who have Paypal accounts and use them for Bricklink
also use those for other things and would not want any involvement with Bricklink
in their account.

This does not appear to be well thought through and even though it says you may
revoke the permissions you have given by signing up to this agreement what does
that mean - do you still have a paypal account for use on Bricklink or not? Is
it online or offline?

Are they going to go through 11,000 stores and remove the Paypal option from
their payment methods when the April date comes around? Stores will wake up to
a 'cannot receive orders as you have no payment methods available' (imagine
the tickets from that !!!!!) or are people going to set up other payment methods
but give Paypal offsite instructions in their invoices. How can they possibly
police this?

The mind boggles .....

All the clamour and yet no response from Bricklink. It is like they are saying
take-it or leave it (which is never a good idea in the best of environments.)

Such a real shame ........
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Location:  USA, Minnesota
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Store: Lost Boys' Brick Shop
I'm curious if BL will continue to offer the multitude other off-sites methods.
Anyone looked at what is still available? There's a bunch I've never
even heard of, and seriously, is a Western Union transfer a better option than
PayPal off-site?
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Suggestions, PurpleDave writes:
  Bricklink famously ground to a halt, twice, because it got hacked. The site
may have been restored to working condition, but a lot of us want nothing to
do with risking exposure of our financial accounts to anyone who may be lurking
behind the scenes. Sellers don't want to give Bricklink the level of control
required to accept payments through Bricklink. Bricklink has announced that
in about a month, they plan to scuttle offsite Paypal as a payment option, without
even taking any input from their core membership. The reason stated was that
new, usually one-time buyers, can't figure out where the payment button is
when they select offsite Paypal as a payment option, so they plan to basically
cut off any buyers and sellers who refuse to use any other form of payment, and
who especially want nothing to do with any onsite Paypal options.

Make offsite Paypal an opt-in payment option. Sellers obviously have to select
up front which payment options they will accept. Make all _buyers_ voluntarily
choose to see offsite Paypal as a payment option when checking out. If a seller
does not accept any other payment options, have them flagged as "does not ship
to you", just like if they were from another country and didn't have your
country enabled for shipping options. If a new buyer signs up, they should be
required to read an explanation of how offsite Paypal works, and confirm that
they want to be able to choose that as a payment option before they even see
it appear in lists.

But seriously, don't chase away a bunch of your regular customers in the
hope that you might be able to "grow your business" on the bank accounts of people
who just get sent here to buy a replacement part that LEGO Consumer Affairs can't
provide, or who are looking for just one retired set, and will never log in again
after they receive their shipment.

Couldn't agree more. If they really are having so many tickets about the
Pay button, refer those tickets to the store(s). I am sure there are far more
tickets coming in over issues with other matters on the site than this. For a
payment method which has worked flawlessly for nearly 7 years (5000 orders received
and 1000 placed) it does not seem logical nor to their benefit to stop it. It
could, however be money driven - if you use Paypal onsite Bricklink must be getting
something out of it where as offsite is outside of their earning capability'.
But then so is every other payment method.

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