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 Author: AlfandRowan View Messages Posted By AlfandRowan
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 Subject: Mystery of the Padawan Printing
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Hello all avid 'Bricklinkers' and brick fans.

I have a mystery, or at least I am stumped by a recent discovery I made with
one of my Lego minifig heads.
I'm talking Star Wars and the minifig SW0517 Female Padawan - small eyes.

Now, I have both large and small eyed versions (sw5017 & sw5017a) for comparison
and I also have several similarly printed heads - notably the 3626bpx83 which
finds itself perched upon Leia quite a bit and Mon Mothma.

I undoubtedly have a spare head with the printing of sw0517 - it looks nice and
sharp and crisp and all those desirable elements, except..... instead of it being
a blocked open stud(bp), its open(cp)?

No, no, no I hear you cry. "Its a type of misprint" or a "later tiny
variant" of the head.

My thoughts at first as well.
So, does anyone know of a version which saw the sw0517 head printed on 3626cpb
part?

I'm beginning to doubt how my eyes are working after about 1 hr looking and
scrutinising carefully.

Please help if you can!

Alf
 Author: novabrick View Messages Posted By novabrick
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 08:35
 Subject: Re: Mystery of the Padawan Printing
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Part No: 3626cpx83  Name: Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
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3626cpx83 Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}

You mean this one? It's hollow stud though.
Open stud heads don't really exist. They are part of keychain figures but
these aren't meant to be taken apart.


Christian

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In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:
  Hello all avid 'Bricklinkers' and brick fans.

I have a mystery, or at least I am stumped by a recent discovery I made with
one of my Lego minifig heads.
I'm talking Star Wars and the minifig SW0517 Female Padawan - small eyes.

Now, I have both large and small eyed versions (sw5017 & sw5017a) for comparison
and I also have several similarly printed heads - notably the 3626bpx83 which
finds itself perched upon Leia quite a bit and Mon Mothma.

I undoubtedly have a spare head with the printing of sw0517 - it looks nice and
sharp and crisp and all those desirable elements, except..... instead of it being
a blocked open stud(bp), its open(cp)?

No, no, no I hear you cry. "Its a type of misprint" or a "later tiny
variant" of the head.

My thoughts at first as well.
So, does anyone know of a version which saw the sw0517 head printed on 3626cpb
part?

I'm beginning to doubt how my eyes are working after about 1 hr looking and
scrutinising carefully.

Please help if you can!

Alf
 Author: AlfandRowan View Messages Posted By AlfandRowan
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 17:17
 Subject: Re: Mystery of the Padawan Printing
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In Catalog Identification, novabrick writes:
  
 
Part No: 3626cpx83  Name: Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
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3626cpx83 Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}

You mean this one? It's hollow stud though.
Open stud heads don't really exist. They are part of keychain figures but
these aren't meant to be taken apart.


Christian

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In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:
  Hello all avid 'Bricklinkers' and brick fans.

I have a mystery, or at least I am stumped by a recent discovery I made with
one of my Lego minifig heads.
I'm talking Star Wars and the minifig SW0517 Female Padawan - small eyes.

Now, I have both large and small eyed versions (sw5017 & sw5017a) for comparison
and I also have several similarly printed heads - notably the 3626bpx83 which
finds itself perched upon Leia quite a bit and Mon Mothma.

I undoubtedly have a spare head with the printing of sw0517 - it looks nice and
sharp and crisp and all those desirable elements, except..... instead of it being
a blocked open stud(bp), its open(cp)?

No, no, no I hear you cry. "Its a type of misprint" or a "later tiny
variant" of the head.

My thoughts at first as well.
So, does anyone know of a version which saw the sw0517 head printed on 3626cpb
part?

I'm beginning to doubt how my eyes are working after about 1 hr looking and
scrutinising carefully.

Please help if you can!

Alf

Well, yes Christian I do mean that head but also no - paradoxically.
Check the image out.

Thanks for the reply guys - I did revisit the parts breakdown as per Tracy's
suggestion only to confirm that confounding 3626bpx83 again.

Am I missing something really obvious?
 
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 17:45
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In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:
  Well, yes Christian I do mean that head but also no - paradoxically.
Check the image out.

Is that not a blocked open stud? It looks like one to me.

That would just be
 
Part No: 3626bpx83  Name: Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
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3626bpx83 Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}
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In Catalog Identification, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:
  Well, yes Christian I do mean that head but also no - paradoxically.
Check the image out.

Is that not a blocked open stud? It looks like one to me.

That would just be
 
Part No: 3626bpx83  Name: Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpx83 Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}

Hello I'm back!

Yep, I hear you on that 3626bpx83 shout but after a nights sleep and a little
thought I decided I had likely not explained very accurately what I am stumped
by.

I think another pic and further background may help - I hope.

So, when I first put a sw5017 into my collection I felt as though I had the correct
head part.
I followed brick link for an accurate description and good photos of these minifigs.

So, I had a head which brick link cites as 'small eyebrows' and 'small
eyes pattern'.
Its eyes were small and the eyebrows matched the small eyes for proportion.

Looking at the image of sw0517 on brick link, it looks like the distance between
the eye dot and the eyebrow was greater on the sw0517 than that same relation
between the eye dot and the eyebrow with any of the mini figures using the 3626bpx83.
(sw0113 sw0085 e.g)


Have a look yourself and see if its my imagination on this - it has been known!


Anyways, this led me to think that the 3626bpx83's had a kind of 'regular'
eye dot size which matched up with its own proportionally correct small eyebrow.
This was backed up somewhat by brick link description which only cites 'small
eyebrow' for those 3626bpx83's.

The 3626bpx83 (which as I mentioned sits on a few minifigs) was also present
in my collection and so when I physically looked at them this also seemed true
enough.



When the addition of the sw0517a came along, it seemed to lend strength to my
thinking because it had that larger eye dot with the same 'small eyebrow'
found on the 3626bpx83's.
 
 Author: AlfandRowan View Messages Posted By AlfandRowan
 Posted: Feb 1, 2024 18:38
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In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:
  In Catalog Identification, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:
  Well, yes Christian I do mean that head but also no - paradoxically.
Check the image out.

Is that not a blocked open stud? It looks like one to me.

That would just be
 
Part No: 3626bpx83  Name: Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
* 
3626bpx83 Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}

Hello I'm back!

Yep, I hear you on that 3626bpx83 shout but after a nights sleep and a little
thought I decided I had likely not explained very accurately what I am stumped
by.

I think another pic and further background may help - I hope.

So, when I first put a sw5017 into my collection I felt as though I had the correct
head part.
I followed brick link for an accurate description and good photos of these minifigs.

So, I had a head which brick link cites as 'small eyebrows' and 'small
eyes pattern'.
Its eyes were small and the eyebrows matched the small eyes for proportion.

Looking at the image of sw0517 on brick link, it looks like the distance between
the eye dot and the eyebrow was greater on the sw0517 than that same relation
between the eye dot and the eyebrow with any of the mini figures using the 3626bpx83.
(sw0113 sw0085 e.g)


Have a look yourself and see if its my imagination on this - it has been known!


Anyways, this led me to think that the 3626bpx83's had a kind of 'regular'
eye dot size which matched up with its own proportionally correct small eyebrow.
This was backed up somewhat by brick link description which only cites 'small
eyebrow' for those 3626bpx83's.

The 3626bpx83 (which as I mentioned sits on a few minifigs) was also present
in my collection and so when I physically looked at them this also seemed true
enough.



When the addition of the sw0517a came along, it seemed to lend strength to my
thinking because it had that larger eye dot with the same 'small eyebrow'
found on the 3626bpx83's.



So I guess I'm asking what that middle head in the pic is?
If it's not 3626cpx83 what is it? It's clearly not 3626bpx83.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 1, 2024 18:58
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  When the addition of the sw0517a came along, it seemed to lend strength to my
thinking because it had that larger eye dot with the same 'small eyebrow'
found on the 3626bpx83's.

So I guess I'm asking what that middle head in the pic is?
If it's not 3626cpx83 what is it? It's clearly not 3626bpx83.

To me it shows again that as LEGO uses various factories, technonologies, quality
controls, depending availability, cost and era - so the same reference produced
items may vary.
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In Catalog Identification, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  When the addition of the sw0517a came along, it seemed to lend strength to my
thinking because it had that larger eye dot with the same 'small eyebrow'
found on the 3626bpx83's.

So I guess I'm asking what that middle head in the pic is?
If it's not 3626cpx83 what is it? It's clearly not 3626bpx83.

To me it shows again that as LEGO uses various factories, technonologies, quality
controls, depending availability, cost and era - so the same reference produced
items may vary.

Yes, this is just a minor (and normal) variation in printing. Whether its 3626bpx83
or 3626cpx83 depends 100% on what kind of stud it has ("b" type or "c"
type).
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In Catalog Identification, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog Identification, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  When the addition of the sw0517a came along, it seemed to lend strength to my
thinking because it had that larger eye dot with the same 'small eyebrow'
found on the 3626bpx83's.

So I guess I'm asking what that middle head in the pic is?
If it's not 3626cpx83 what is it? It's clearly not 3626bpx83.

To me it shows again that as LEGO uses various factories, technonologies, quality
controls, depending availability, cost and era - so the same reference produced
items may vary.

Yes, this is just a minor (and normal) variation in printing. Whether its 3626bpx83
or 3626cpx83 depends 100% on what kind of stud it has ("b" type or "c"
type).

Sadly so!

Thank you for the reply.

Nice 'pick up' with that Mimban a little while back.

regards

Alf
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In Catalog Identification, 1001bricks writes:
  
  
  When the addition of the sw0517a came along, it seemed to lend strength to my
thinking because it had that larger eye dot with the same 'small eyebrow'
found on the 3626bpx83's.

So I guess I'm asking what that middle head in the pic is?
If it's not 3626cpx83 what is it? It's clearly not 3626bpx83.

To me it shows again that as LEGO uses various factories, technonologies, quality
controls, depending availability, cost and era - so the same reference produced
items may vary.

Yes, very true.

I think the more plates one has spinning the greater chance of breakages.

Thank you for the reply
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In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:
  Hello all avid 'Bricklinkers' and brick fans.

I have a mystery, or at least I am stumped by a recent discovery I made with
one of my Lego minifig heads.
I'm talking Star Wars and the minifig SW0517 Female Padawan - small eyes.

Now, I have both large and small eyed versions (sw5017 & sw5017a) for comparison
and I also have several similarly printed heads - notably the 3626bpx83 which
finds itself perched upon Leia quite a bit and Mon Mothma.

I undoubtedly have a spare head with the printing of sw0517 - it looks nice and
sharp and crisp and all those desirable elements, except..... instead of it being
a blocked open stud(bp), its open(cp)?

No, no, no I hear you cry. "Its a type of misprint" or a "later tiny
variant" of the head.

My thoughts at first as well.
So, does anyone know of a version which saw the sw0517 head printed on 3626cpb
part?

I'm beginning to doubt how my eyes are working after about 1 hr looking and
scrutinising carefully.

Please help if you can!

Alf

Hi

If you check individual parts of SW0517, and click on the head part you will
see it comes in the other type.

Regards

Tracy
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In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:

  My thoughts at first as well.
So, does anyone know of a version which saw the sw0517 head printed on 3626cpb
part?


Not sure if I understand your question. If you mean 3626cpx83, it comes exactly
on the very sw0517 itself.

 
Part No: 3626cpx83  Name: Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
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3626cpx83 Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}
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In Catalog Identification, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog Identification, AlfandRowan writes:

  My thoughts at first as well.
So, does anyone know of a version which saw the sw0517 head printed on 3626cpb
part?


Not sure if I understand your question. If you mean 3626cpx83, it comes exactly
on the very sw0517 itself.

 
Part No: 3626cpx83  Name: Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpx83 Minifigure, Head Female Thin Black Eyebrows and Eyelashes, Small Eyes, Red Lips Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Light Nougat}
Hello I'm back!

Yep, I hear you on that 3626cpx83 shout but after a nights sleep and a little
thought I decided I had likely not explained very accurately what I am stumped
by.

I think another pic and further background may help - I hope.

So, when I first put a sw5017 into my collection I felt as though I had the correct
head part.
I followed brick link for an accurate description and good photos of these minifigs.

So, I had a head which brick link cites as 'small eyebrows' and 'small
eyes pattern'.
Its eyes were small and the eyebrows matched the small eyes for proportion.

Looking at the image of sw0517 on brick link, it looks like the distance between
the eye dot and the eyebrow was greater on the sw0517 than that same relation
between the eye dot and the eyebrow with any of the mini figures using the 3626bpx83.
(sw0113 sw0085 e.g)


Have a look yourself and see if its my imagination on this - it has been known!


Anyways, this led me to think that the 3626bpx83's had a kind of 'regular'
eye dot size which matched up with its own proportionally correct small eyebrow.
This was backed up somewhat by brick link description which only cites 'small
eyebrow' for those 3626bpx83's.

The 3626bpx83 (which as I mentioned sits on a few minifigs) was also present
in my collection and so when I physically looked at them this also seemed true
enough.



When the addition of the sw0517a came along, it seemed to lend strength to my
thinking because it had that larger eye dot with the same 'small eyebrow'
found on the 3626bpx83's.

I guess I'm asking -what is the head in the middle?
If its not 3626cpx83 why the delineation on BL description? It's clearly
not 3626bpx83,
Am I all the way back to a misprint on this head?