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 Author: Stonemonkey1974 View Messages Posted By Stonemonkey1974
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 13:40
 Subject: How long till you file an NPB?
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Stonemonkey1974 (528)

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Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?
If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?
 Author: Biglesdug View Messages Posted By Biglesdug
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 13:53
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In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?
If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

I usually send a reminder 3 days after invoicing. NPB after 7 days. If I filed
the NPB and then they want to cancel after I have already tried to contact them
I would go throw with the process of the NPB so I can leave appropriate feedback.
 Author: Stonemonkey1974 View Messages Posted By Stonemonkey1974
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 13:56
 Subject: Re: How long till you file an NPB?
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In Selling, Biglesdug writes:
  In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?
If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

I usually send a reminder 3 days after invoicing. NPB after 7 days. If I filed
the NPB and then they want to cancel after I have already tried to contact them
I would go throw with the process of the NPB so I can leave appropriate feedback.

Thanks for the reply, do you contact via both email and BL messenger or just
messenger?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 14:07
 Subject: Re: How long till you file an NPB?
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1001bricks (52501)

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In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?


1 NPB Alert, 1 e-mail (some may not receive mail from BL for variuos reasons).
Around 1 month after the order; I'm not hurry, I don't care.
Of course for a small shop this may be a problem, but I'd say that depends
the lots?


  If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

I'd (the more often) cancel the NPB and the order.
If this is really bad faith (and see my delay above), and/or communication is
problematic, I may continue the NPB process, but it's rare.


Additional tip: buyers often select "System problem" or such silly excuse
when asking for cancellation. If it's not justified, I cancel this and then
start cancellation with a more adequate reason, like "Buyer doesn't want
to buy anymore".

I guess BrickLink have stats about each reason, and I think it's good to
select the proper one.
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 14:54
 Subject: Re: How long till you file an NPB?
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In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?

I send a reminder after 3 days (both BL message and directly to the buyer's
email address). You can open an NPB after 5 days now (it used to be 7 days).

  If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

Never had this happen. If you cancel the order, you run the (small) risk of receiving
neutral or negative feedback. Only way to prevent this is to complete the NPB,
which automatically removes buyer's feedback.

Maybe ask the buyer to leave positive feedback, then cancel the order after
at least 30 days. Feedback cannot be changed after 30 days.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 15:01
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 15:01
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1001bricks (52501)

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  Maybe ask the buyer to leave positive feedback, then cancel the order after
at least 30 days. Feedback cannot be changed after 30 days.

That'd be illegal, as it's "give me a Positive or I glue you an NPB"...
 Author: zorbanj View Messages Posted By zorbanj
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 20:48
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I disagree. The system allows a buyer to leave feedback for an order that they
themselves asked to be cancelled. This should not be allowed but it is allowed.
The only option that protects the seller is to complete an NPB. However, an NPB
may be too harsh, especially if the buyer is new to BL.

The only way around this that both accommodates the buyer and protects the seller
is for the buyer to leave positive feedback and then the seller cancelling the
order after 30 days.

If you have a better solution besides "Don't worry about it" let's hear
it.

In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  
  Maybe ask the buyer to leave positive feedback, then cancel the order after
at least 30 days. Feedback cannot be changed after 30 days.

That'd be illegal, as it's "give me a Positive or I glue you an NPB"...
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 15:04
 Subject: Re: How long till you file an NPB?
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In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?
If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

I usually file 3 days before the order is made.
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 15:07
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In Selling, legoman77 writes:
  In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?
If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

I usually file 3 days before the order is made.

You mean, a Non Placing Order alert?
That's smart!

I just sent one to Nubs_Select
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Sep 9, 2022 15:10
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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You'll laugh less!!!
 
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I bought everything I needed from your store last time
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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   I bought everything I needed from your store last time

That was just for the fun
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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I was about to respond to the thread and then had a power outage
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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There is 1 thing that ill order if you want me to
(meets all restrictions you set that I remember )
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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Order placed! Prepare for bankruptcy!!!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  Order placed! Prepare for bankruptcy!!!

Thank you for ordering a Minifig Head.
But I think you picked the wrong item.
The one that'd fit you would be more:

 
Part No: 3626cpb2077  Name: Minifigure, Head Clown Black Pointed Eyebrows, White Circles Around Eyes, Red Nose, Large Painted Smile Pattern - Hollow Stud
* 
3626cpb2077 Minifigure, Head Clown Black Pointed Eyebrows, White Circles Around Eyes, Red Nose, Large Painted Smile Pattern - Hollow Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head {Yellow}
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 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
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In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?
If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

If I file an NPB and the buyer comes back requesting to cancel, I will usually
agree to cancel. Usually such buyers are apologetic and sincere, so I don't
mind.

However, if the NPB has already been completed, then I will not agree to cancel,
and will let the NPB stand. In this case, the buyer has ignored several messages,
plus an NPB so I have no sympathies left.

If I agree to a cancellation request, I always suggest to the buyer that as no
actual transaction has taken place, no feedback should be left, and I tell them
I will leave no feedback of any kind, and ask them to do the same. So far this
has never failed.

Thankfully, there are very few NPB's.
 Author: Stonemonkey1974 View Messages Posted By Stonemonkey1974
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In Selling, calebfishn writes:
  In Selling, Stonemonkey1974 writes:
  Just out of interest how long do you wait till you file an NPB? How many (if
any) messages/emails do you send out before?
If you file an NPB and buyer comes back requesting to cancel how do you move
forward?

If I file an NPB and the buyer comes back requesting to cancel, I will usually
agree to cancel. Usually such buyers are apologetic and sincere, so I don't
mind.

However, if the NPB has already been completed, then I will not agree to cancel,
and will let the NPB stand. In this case, the buyer has ignored several messages,
plus an NPB so I have no sympathies left.

If I agree to a cancellation request, I always suggest to the buyer that as no
actual transaction has taken place, no feedback should be left, and I tell them
I will leave no feedback of any kind, and ask them to do the same. So far this
has never failed.

Thankfully, there are very few NPB's.

Hmm OK sounds like it works, I have a spate atm, 4 not paid yet. Over a week.