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 Author: Alico64 View Messages Posted By Alico64
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 10:36
 Subject: How to identify counterfeit Arms
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Alico64 (431)

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Hello everyone!

I'm working my way through a bulk lot of used minifigure parts, and I found
quite a bit of arms that don't have the Lego mark on the inner side of the
arms.

Because I found so many, I started wondering if Lego did not put their name on
the arms at first or if this is simply counterfeit. And if they did not put it
there at first, how can I differentiate the genuine Lego from the counterfeit?

Also, if anyone has tips on the hands, let me know!
 Author: PlanetEarthToys View Messages Posted By PlanetEarthToys
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 10:37
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In General, Alico64 writes:
  Hello everyone!

I'm working my way through a bulk lot of used minifigure parts, and I found
quite a bit of arms that don't have the Lego mark on the inner side of the
arms.

Because I found so many, I started wondering if Lego did not put their name on
the arms at first or if this is simply counterfeit. And if they did not put it
there at first, how can I differentiate the genuine Lego from the counterfeit?

Also, if anyone has tips on the hands, let me know!

you have no clue what is about to happen ....
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 11:31
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In General, Alico64 writes:
  Hello everyone!

I'm working my way through a bulk lot of used minifigure parts, and I found
quite a bit of arms that don't have the Lego mark on the inner side of the
arms.

Because I found so many, I started wondering if Lego did not put their name on
the arms at first or if this is simply counterfeit. And if they did not put it
there at first, how can I differentiate the genuine Lego from the counterfeit?

Also, if anyone has tips on the hands, let me know!

80s and 90s figures do not have logos on arms. I'm not sure about 2000s as
I have very few. Then 2010s onwards seem to almost all have them.

As for hands, I'd assume genuine if the colour is right and the rest of the
figure is right. Hands are cheap with a very few exceptions, I doubt there would
be wholesale scams of replacing genuine hands for fake ones.
 Author: rylie_aitch View Messages Posted By rylie_aitch
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 13:05
 Subject: Re: How to identify counterfeit Arms
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  As for hands, I'd assume genuine if the colour is right

Heck, even if the color isn’t right Minifigure hands are made with POM instead
of ABS (so they don’t break when they flex). This often leads to color matching
issues, especially with older figures that used a much lighter yellow than normal.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 14:20
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In General, ryanaitch writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  As for hands, I'd assume genuine if the colour is right

Heck, even if the color isn’t right Minifigure hands are made with POM instead
of ABS (so they don’t break when they flex). This often leads to color matching
issues, especially with older figures that used a much lighter yellow than normal.

I wasn't clear - I meant comparing them to other hands of the same colour
(and age) not necessarily other parts.

And yeah, I know they are different plastic, as they don't dye anywhere near
as easily as torsos or the arm sockets they are in.
 Author: rylie_aitch View Messages Posted By rylie_aitch
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 18:29
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  In General, ryanaitch writes:
  In General, yorbrick writes:
  As for hands, I'd assume genuine if the colour is right

Heck, even if the color isn’t right Minifigure hands are made with POM instead
of ABS (so they don’t break when they flex). This often leads to color matching
issues, especially with older figures that used a much lighter yellow than normal.

I wasn't clear - I meant comparing them to other hands of the same colour
(and age) not necessarily other parts.

And yeah, I know they are different plastic, as they don't dye anywhere near
as easily as torsos or the arm sockets they are in.

Didn't mean to put you on the defensive there, I agree with you, just trying
to provide more information for people doing those comparisons

Ryan
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 14:32
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In General, ryanaitch writes:
  Heck, even if the color isn’t right Minifigure hands are made with POM instead
of ABS (so they don’t break when they flex). This often leads to color matching
issues, especially with older figures that used a much lighter yellow than normal.

My recollection is that the lighter yellow was introduced in the early- to mid-80s
and that older figures had the fuller yellow. But I could be wrong - that was
a long time ago.
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In General, Alico64 writes:
  Because I found so many, I started wondering if Lego did not put their name on
the arms at first or if this is simply counterfeit. And if they did not put it
there at first, how can I differentiate the genuine Lego from the counterfeit?

Lego arms can be distinguished by feel, finish, precision, etc. The logo being
on arms is a fairly new thing.
 Author: Alico64 View Messages Posted By Alico64
 Posted: Aug 8, 2022 03:10
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In General, peregrinator writes:
  In General, Alico64 writes:
  Because I found so many, I started wondering if Lego did not put their name on
the arms at first or if this is simply counterfeit. And if they did not put it
there at first, how can I differentiate the genuine Lego from the counterfeit?

Lego arms can be distinguished by feel, finish, precision, etc. The logo being
on arms is a fairly new thing.

Thanks! That's what I figured. It seems to be the more standard colors, that
are "missing" the Lego name. They do feel slightly thicker, which aligns with
older molds from several Lego parts.
 Author: randyipp View Messages Posted By randyipp
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 14:58
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In General, Alico64 writes:
  Hello everyone!

I'm working my way through a bulk lot of used minifigure parts, and I found
quite a bit of arms that don't have the Lego mark on the inner side of the
arms.

Because I found so many, I started wondering if Lego did not put their name on
the arms at first or if this is simply counterfeit. And if they did not put it
there at first, how can I differentiate the genuine Lego from the counterfeit?

Also, if anyone has tips on the hands, let me know!

Some great info here: https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/themes-minifigs.php?language=en

Though not much about arms, I think I saw a site with arm info, will update if
I find it.