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 Author: Gandalf68 View Messages Posted By Gandalf68
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 04:21
 Subject: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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Gandalf68 (398)

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Hi !

Again, i'm facing a problem while retro-engineering a model.
I don't understand how the creator of the model manage to put a ball+axle
in the space beween the mudguard and the ball socket underneath !?
It seems impossible because there is apparently 2 Brackets and a Tile there,
and it's leaves not much room to fit anything else !

Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

Any ideas ?
 
 Author: fritsp View Messages Posted By fritsp
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 04:40
 Subject: Re: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

Any ideas ?

 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
this one with this?
 
Part No: 32474  Name: Technic Ball Joint
* 
32474 Technic Ball Joint
Parts: Technic {Black}
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 06:31
 Subject: Re: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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In Help, fritsp writes:
  In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

Any ideas ?

 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
this one with this?
 
Part No: 32474  Name: Technic Ball Joint
* 
32474 Technic Ball Joint
Parts: Technic {Black}

Do those balls work with the socket bricks? I would think they would be too small.
If it is possible though, it would probably be very fragile.
 Author: Gandalf68 View Messages Posted By Gandalf68
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 10:59
 Subject: Re: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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In Help, firestar246 writes:
  In Help, fritsp writes:
  In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

Any ideas ?

 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
this one with this?
 
Part No: 32474  Name: Technic Ball Joint
* 
32474 Technic Ball Joint
Parts: Technic {Black}

Do those balls work with the socket bricks? I would think they would be too small.
If it is possible though, it would probably be very fragile.

Yes, they work with socket bricks, and as you say, the whole thing will be fragile
... But i don't think i have any choice here since i can't think of anything
else
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 11:11
 Subject: Re: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  In Help, firestar246 writes:
  In Help, fritsp writes:
  In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

Any ideas ?

 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
this one with this?
 
Part No: 32474  Name: Technic Ball Joint
* 
32474 Technic Ball Joint
Parts: Technic {Black}

Do those balls work with the socket bricks? I would think they would be too small.
If it is possible though, it would probably be very fragile.

Yes, they work with socket bricks, and as you say, the whole thing will be fragile
... But i don't think i have any choice here since i can't think of anything
else

What about something attached to this:

 
Part No: 2460  Name: Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin
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2460 Tile, Modified 2 x 2 with Pin
Parts: Tile, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
 Author: Gandalf68 View Messages Posted By Gandalf68
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 06:33
 Subject: Re: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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In Help, fritsp writes:
  In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

Any ideas ?

 
Part No: 87580  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
* 
87580 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Groove and 1 Stud in Center (Jumper)
Parts: Plate, Modified {Light Bluish Gray}
this one with this?
 
Part No: 32474  Name: Technic Ball Joint
* 
32474 Technic Ball Joint
Parts: Technic {Black}

Yes ! I've just tried it and it works, although i'm afraid that it's
a little weak to be able to hold the whole thing together, but i don't believe
there are many other solutions anyway

Thanks for your help !
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 11:43
 Subject: Re: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

I don't think it's possible either - usually these ball joints are attached
by axles. Maybe something like this, cut down, would be sturdier than just a
jumper tile?

 
Part No: 98549  Name: Support 2 x 2 x 5 Bar on Tile Base with Hollow Stud and Stop Ring
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98549 Support 2 x 2 x 5 Bar on Tile Base with Hollow Stud and Stop Ring
Parts: Support
 Author: Gandalf68 View Messages Posted By Gandalf68
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 13:22
 Subject: Re: Retro-engineering problem (Part 2)
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In Help, peregrinator writes:
  In Help, Gandalf68 writes:
  Unless the Tile is a 2x2 modified with pin (2460) with a ball somehow attached
to it ?
(But i don't think it's possible)

I don't think it's possible either - usually these ball joints are attached
by axles. Maybe something like this, cut down, would be sturdier than just a
jumper tile?

 
Part No: 98549  Name: Support 2 x 2 x 5 Bar on Tile Base with Hollow Stud and Stop Ring
* 
98549 Support 2 x 2 x 5 Bar on Tile Base with Hollow Stud and Stop Ring
Parts: Support

Yeah it's an idea ... I guess i will try the 2 options to see what is the
sturdiest, and in the worst case, if i go all the way to cut a piece, i guess
i could also glue the ball to the jumper tile (even if i'm not fond of the
idea of using glue)
But at the end, the model is just for display so hopefully i won't be forced
to go to this extreme