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 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Apr 8, 2021 11:15
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 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Apr 8, 2021 11:16
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Problem, calsbricks writes:
  Just after Jan 1 we decided not to ship to EU countries until the situation was
clearer as far as VAT collection goes. I am aware that a large number of EU sellers
as well as USA had made the same decision about shipping to the UK.

Okay that is fine - looking after your business and not wishing to get swamped
with additional admin costs etc.

Well in the middle of last month we needed a quantity of items that we could
not get from anywhere but Germany. So we thought we will order and take the hit
if required. We placed an order and the seller was not vat registered. Very professional
and provided an excellent service - cost to us was about £40 (delivered) No VAt,
No customs duty or import VAT and here within a couple of days. We were very
happy and thought this might not be too bad.

So earlier this week we needed, once again, a quantity of items that no one in
the UK could help with so we turned to Germany again and this time we found a
supplier who had what we wanted at a reasonable price and they were VAT registered.
Ordered and goods have been shipped. Total cost including German VAT @ 19% was
about £50. Okay now we do not know if this is going to get trapped in UK C&E
and we get lumbered with UK VAT as well, which doesn't sound right to have
to pay 2 lots of VAT but we all know what lawmakers are like - they need cash
to pay their fat salaries and expenses, but again no problems so far.

We know this is going to get much more complicated when and if BL get involved
especially with regards to their implementation (They rarely get it right first
time around) but currently no real problems to report.

Maybe we are lucky, wont know til this one gets here but on the first one - no
real difference to a UK order.


Hmmm
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Apr 8, 2021 11:21
 Subject: Re: A little story/warning
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In Problem, calsbricks writes:
  […]
  No VAt,
No customs duty or import VAT and here within a couple of days. We were very
happy and thought this might not be too bad.

Lucky you.


  […]
Total cost including German VAT @ 19%

You shouldn’t pay German VAT.  The seller should have exported the goods with
a 0% VAT.
Of course, as UK is still considered EU for BL, it’s not automated correctly
by BL… but you still should not have to pay EU VAT.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Apr 8, 2021 11:26
 Subject: Re: A little story/warning
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In Problem, SylvainLS writes:
  In Problem, calsbricks writes:
  […]
  No VAt,
No customs duty or import VAT and here within a couple of days. We were very
happy and thought this might not be too bad.

Lucky you.

So far
  

  […]
Total cost including German VAT @ 19%

You shouldn’t pay German VAT.  The seller should have exported the goods with
a 0% VAT.
Of course, as UK is still considered EU for BL, it’s not automated correctly
by BL… but you still should not have to pay EU VAT.

That is what we thought but we got charged it and paid it. Now we will challenge
UK C&E if they attempt to charge it, but lets wait and see - should arrive next
week, we hope)
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Apr 8, 2021 14:00
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  and provided an excellent service - cost to us was about £40 (delivered) No VAt,
No customs duty or import VAT and here within a couple of days.

It just means that your package didn't get caught and you get away without
paying the £8 VAT this time, that should have been collected by bricklink if
they had it set up or on import (along with the £8 RM fee).

But yeah, it will be a double whammy if you pay the VAT in a foreign country
as they need to collect their VAT on their sales but then also get caught on
import, as UK VAT is still due.