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 Author: Admin View Messages Posted By Admin
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 Subject: FAQ on BrickLink XP Beta Release
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Dear BrickLink Community,

We want to thank you for the great feedback you shared with us regarding the beta release of BrickLink XP. As a BrickLink member kindly mentioned, a beta release offers a chance to root out bugs before adding more features. With the many concrete examples and concerns you shared here, we are in a much better position to progress with a solution that generates added value. BrickLink is very important to all of you, and for many of you, it provides stability and contributes to your livelihood. We understand how much change can affect these things, so we want BrickLink to be a platform that works better for you.

After going through your comments one by one, we feel that the true meaning of BrickLink XP’s beta launch was not fully delivered in the announcement message. Consequently, we want to follow up to clarify and address your questions and concerns. Kindly bear in mind as you read through the FAQs that BrickLink XP is a platform in its early stages, and we are already making adjustments to reflect some of your feedback.

FAQ

Will BrickLink XP replace the current version of BrickLink (Classic)?

BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP. BrickLink XP is a complete overhaul project to improve the performance of the decade-old software platform while streamlining the user experience for both mobile and desktop. We will continue to add more features and design BrickLink XP based on your feedback and your feedback only. In other words, you can decide which version you prefer to use.

What is the end goal of BrickLink XP?

It’s our mission to lower the entry barriers for all LEGO fans and provide tools to empower your creativity. BrickLink XP has two main goals aligned with this mission: provide a responsive, mobile-friendly version of BrickLink without sacrificing key features or information, and to help new users easily become advanced users. This phase is just the first step toward realizing the mission, and we will continue to move forward until we meet and exceed your expectations.

Where are all the features that I use on Classic?

BrickLink XP was launched in its beta phase with basic features only. We plan to add almost all the essential features from Classic to XP, including advanced store filters and Price Guide. BrickLink XP is a complete redesign, rewritten to be responsive and highly performant. It will take some time for us to develop and test, and we want to make sure it is done right.

How do I view a store’s inventory?

The storefront feature is on the roadmap to be added to BrickLink XP in the future, and we made the storefront one of the highest priority features after receiving your feedback.

Why was BrickLink XP launched in its current state?

We launched BrickLink XP in beta and only announced its release in the forum because we wanted to prioritize our future roadmap based on your opinions and feedback. We did not do external marketing for this beta launch so that we can reflect our seasoned members’ opinions first. We have read every single feedback and deeply appreciate all of your passionate participation.

Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

Why is my store not shown on BrickLink XP?

Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled. Instant Checkout is also strongly encouraged. Your store will not be displayed if it does not support either of these features. If your store supports Onsite payment and is not shown by default, your store is likely listed in the Domestic or International “All listings” page. On Classic, your store will be displayed as usual.

How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

To continue to learn from the beta release of BrickLink XP, please continue posting comments and concerns, as well as observations about the features that you like and work well for you. We will keep reading your comments, and we will keep updating the FAQ as we go along. Again, thank you for participating and providing feedback for this beta phase.

Thank you,
BrickLink Team

 Author: edeevo View Messages Posted By edeevo
 Posted: May 5, 2020 20:43
 Subject: Re: FAQ on BrickLink XP Beta Release
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  Dear BrickLink Community,

We want to thank you for the great feedback you shared with us regarding the beta release of BrickLink XP. As a BrickLink member kindly mentioned, a beta release offers a chance to root out bugs before adding more features. With the many concrete examples and concerns you shared here, we are in a much better position to progress with a solution that generates added value. BrickLink is very important to all of you, and for many of you, it provides stability and contributes to your livelihood. We understand how much change can affect these things, so we want BrickLink to be a platform that works better for you.

After going through your comments one by one, we feel that the true meaning of BrickLink XP’s beta launch was not fully delivered in the announcement message. Consequently, we want to follow up to clarify and address your questions and concerns. Kindly bear in mind as you read through the FAQs that BrickLink XP is a platform in its early stages, and we are already making adjustments to reflect some of your feedback.

FAQ

Will BrickLink XP replace the current version of BrickLink (Classic)?

BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP. BrickLink XP is a complete overhaul project to improve the performance of the decade-old software platform while streamlining the user experience for both mobile and desktop. We will continue to add more features and design BrickLink XP based on your feedback and your feedback only. In other words, you can decide which version you prefer to use.

What is the end goal of BrickLink XP?

It’s our mission to lower the entry barriers for all LEGO fans and provide tools to empower your creativity. BrickLink XP has two main goals aligned with this mission: provide a responsive, mobile-friendly version of BrickLink without sacrificing key features or information, and to help new users easily become advanced users. This phase is just the first step toward realizing the mission, and we will continue to move forward until we meet and exceed your expectations.

Where are all the features that I use on Classic?

BrickLink XP was launched in its beta phase with basic features only. We plan to add almost all the essential features from Classic to XP, including advanced store filters and Price Guide. BrickLink XP is a complete redesign, rewritten to be responsive and highly performant. It will take some time for us to develop and test, and we want to make sure it is done right.

How do I view a store’s inventory?

The storefront feature is on the roadmap to be added to BrickLink XP in the future, and we made the storefront one of the highest priority features after receiving your feedback.

Why was BrickLink XP launched in its current state?

We launched BrickLink XP in beta and only announced its release in the forum because we wanted to prioritize our future roadmap based on your opinions and feedback. We did not do external marketing for this beta launch so that we can reflect our seasoned members’ opinions first. We have read every single feedback and deeply appreciate all of your passionate participation.

Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

Why is my store not shown on BrickLink XP?

Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled. Instant Checkout is also strongly encouraged. Your store will not be displayed if it does not support either of these features. If your store supports Onsite payment and is not shown by default, your store is likely listed in the Domestic or International “All listings” page. On Classic, your store will be displayed as usual.

How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

To continue to learn from the beta release of BrickLink XP, please continue posting comments and concerns, as well as observations about the features that you like and work well for you. We will keep reading your comments, and we will keep updating the FAQ as we go along. Again, thank you for participating and providing feedback for this beta phase.

Thank you,
BrickLink Team



Thank you for sending this out; it provides some clear answers to a lot of questions
and fears I believe some seasoned Sellers had regarding the roadmap (at least
it did for me)...

Life is Good.
~Ed.
 Author: CPgolfaddict View Messages Posted By CPgolfaddict
 Posted: May 6, 2020 00:16
 Subject: Re: FAQ on BrickLink XP Beta Release
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Regarding this:

Why is my store not shown on BrickLink XP?
Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled.
Instant Checkout is also strongly encouraged. Your store will not be displayed
if it does not support either of these features. If your store supports Onsite
payment and is not shown by default, your store is likely listed in the Domestic
or International “All listings” page. On Classic, your store will be displayed
as usual.

In order to use instant checkout I STILL need a solution for in-state orders
in North Carolina.

-- I would like to see a simple solution where I could use IC for all domestic
orders EXCEPT in my home state. Then I can continue to check the county and
tax rate based on the delivery address BEFORE sending the invoice. THEN I can
start to look at instant checkout for all the other domestic orders.

-- If BL is going to start collecting sales tax as a marketplace, I suppose
that would also solve the issue.

-- I would love it my in-state orders could tie into whatever API Lego is
using to calculate tax based on delivery address.

Simply put, zip codes are NOT a viable option. There are 100 counties and at
least 1080 zip codes in my state. This is the full listing of North Carolina
tax rates by zip code. https://files.nc.gov/ncdor/documents/files/Gen562byZip_4-2019_Final.pdf
-- I've reviewed the first 3 pages (out of 32) and found 14 zip codes
that cross county lines AND have at least two different sales tax rates within
the Zip code. (--- yes I'd rather the state get this cleaned up....but
not my call.)

Lets just say I had the patience to configure a state rate and then overrides
for specific zip codes. AND then I can make updates as counties adjust their
rates over time. (once or twice a year I think). When there is two or more different
rates in a zip code... I have to make a choice on which rate to use. I might
be able to come close. Perhaps I never get an order with the wrong tax rate.

BUT the calculated tax COULD still be incorrect. Therefore I still have to check
every address for every in-state order and make a note of the county & rate and
keep track of whether sales tax is correct or not. If it isn't right then
I have to figure out how to make adjustments. If I'm too low then what...
I'm probably breaking the law in some fashion. Too high I have to refund
the customer? Too low and I just fudge the amounts in the order to get the correct
tax? The clean up would be a mess.

I'm not the only one who has posted on this issue. But these are some of
my posts on the topic going back to December 2017.

Dec 16, 2017 - https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1067873
April 18, 2018 - https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1086815
June 9, 2018 - https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1093477

FYI... Today it isn't complicated with manual checkout. Search Mapquest
for the address -- it shows county lines. I know the rates for the three
of the largest counties. I look up the rates online for the rest. I record
it by county when I record orders and amounts in Quicken. I don't have to
go back and re-do or adjust anything, nor do I need to try and maintain 1000+
zip codes in BL.

If anyone else has found a better approach where there are many local rates....please
let me know.
 Author: gogogovro View Messages Posted By gogogovro
 Posted: May 5, 2020 20:48
 Subject: Re: FAQ on BrickLink XP Beta Release
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  Dear BrickLink Community,

We want to thank you for the great feedback you shared with us regarding the beta release of BrickLink XP. As a BrickLink member kindly mentioned, a beta release offers a chance to root out bugs before adding more features. With the many concrete examples and concerns you shared here, we are in a much better position to progress with a solution that generates added value. BrickLink is very important to all of you, and for many of you, it provides stability and contributes to your livelihood. We understand how much change can affect these things, so we want BrickLink to be a platform that works better for you.

After going through your comments one by one, we feel that the true meaning of BrickLink XP’s beta launch was not fully delivered in the announcement message. Consequently, we want to follow up to clarify and address your questions and concerns. Kindly bear in mind as you read through the FAQs that BrickLink XP is a platform in its early stages, and we are already making adjustments to reflect some of your feedback.

FAQ

Will BrickLink XP replace the current version of BrickLink (Classic)?

BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP. BrickLink XP is a complete overhaul project to improve the performance of the decade-old software platform while streamlining the user experience for both mobile and desktop. We will continue to add more features and design BrickLink XP based on your feedback and your feedback only. In other words, you can decide which version you prefer to use.

What is the end goal of BrickLink XP?

It’s our mission to lower the entry barriers for all LEGO fans and provide tools to empower your creativity. BrickLink XP has two main goals aligned with this mission: provide a responsive, mobile-friendly version of BrickLink without sacrificing key features or information, and to help new users easily become advanced users. This phase is just the first step toward realizing the mission, and we will continue to move forward until we meet and exceed your expectations.

Where are all the features that I use on Classic?

BrickLink XP was launched in its beta phase with basic features only. We plan to add almost all the essential features from Classic to XP, including advanced store filters and Price Guide. BrickLink XP is a complete redesign, rewritten to be responsive and highly performant. It will take some time for us to develop and test, and we want to make sure it is done right.

How do I view a store’s inventory?

The storefront feature is on the roadmap to be added to BrickLink XP in the future, and we made the storefront one of the highest priority features after receiving your feedback.

Why was BrickLink XP launched in its current state?

We launched BrickLink XP in beta and only announced its release in the forum because we wanted to prioritize our future roadmap based on your opinions and feedback. We did not do external marketing for this beta launch so that we can reflect our seasoned members’ opinions first. We have read every single feedback and deeply appreciate all of your passionate participation.

Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

Why is my store not shown on BrickLink XP?

Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled. Instant Checkout is also strongly encouraged. Your store will not be displayed if it does not support either of these features. If your store supports Onsite payment and is not shown by default, your store is likely listed in the Domestic or International “All listings” page. On Classic, your store will be displayed as usual.

How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

To continue to learn from the beta release of BrickLink XP, please continue posting comments and concerns, as well as observations about the features that you like and work well for you. We will keep reading your comments, and we will keep updating the FAQ as we go along. Again, thank you for participating and providing feedback for this beta phase.

Thank you,
BrickLink Team



Thanks for clarifying. As I've said, BL's communication since January
is getting better and better. Although, personally, everything you said in this
post seemed obvious to me.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  Dear BrickLink Community,

We want to thank you for the great feedback you shared with us regarding the beta release of BrickLink XP. As a BrickLink member kindly mentioned, a beta release offers a chance to root out bugs before adding more features. With the many concrete examples and concerns you shared here, we are in a much better position to progress with a solution that generates added value. BrickLink is very important to all of you, and for many of you, it provides stability and contributes to your livelihood. We understand how much change can affect these things, so we want BrickLink to be a platform that works better for you.

After going through your comments one by one, we feel that the true meaning of BrickLink XP’s beta launch was not fully delivered in the announcement message. Consequently, we want to follow up to clarify and address your questions and concerns. Kindly bear in mind as you read through the FAQs that BrickLink XP is a platform in its early stages, and we are already making adjustments to reflect some of your feedback.

FAQ

Will BrickLink XP replace the current version of BrickLink (Classic)?

BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP. BrickLink XP is a complete overhaul project to improve the performance of the decade-old software platform while streamlining the user experience for both mobile and desktop. We will continue to add more features and design BrickLink XP based on your feedback and your feedback only. In other words, you can decide which version you prefer to use.

What is the end goal of BrickLink XP?

It’s our mission to lower the entry barriers for all LEGO fans and provide tools to empower your creativity. BrickLink XP has two main goals aligned with this mission: provide a responsive, mobile-friendly version of BrickLink without sacrificing key features or information, and to help new users easily become advanced users. This phase is just the first step toward realizing the mission, and we will continue to move forward until we meet and exceed your expectations.

Where are all the features that I use on Classic?

BrickLink XP was launched in its beta phase with basic features only. We plan to add almost all the essential features from Classic to XP, including advanced store filters and Price Guide. BrickLink XP is a complete redesign, rewritten to be responsive and highly performant. It will take some time for us to develop and test, and we want to make sure it is done right.

How do I view a store’s inventory?

The storefront feature is on the roadmap to be added to BrickLink XP in the future, and we made the storefront one of the highest priority features after receiving your feedback.

Why was BrickLink XP launched in its current state?

We launched BrickLink XP in beta and only announced its release in the forum because we wanted to prioritize our future roadmap based on your opinions and feedback. We did not do external marketing for this beta launch so that we can reflect our seasoned members’ opinions first. We have read every single feedback and deeply appreciate all of your passionate participation.

Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

Why is my store not shown on BrickLink XP?

Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled. Instant Checkout is also strongly encouraged. Your store will not be displayed if it does not support either of these features. If your store supports Onsite payment and is not shown by default, your store is likely listed in the Domestic or International “All listings” page. On Classic, your store will be displayed as usual.

How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

To continue to learn from the beta release of BrickLink XP, please continue posting comments and concerns, as well as observations about the features that you like and work well for you. We will keep reading your comments, and we will keep updating the FAQ as we go along. Again, thank you for participating and providing feedback for this beta phase.

Thank you,
BrickLink Team



Thank you so much for providing this response! Too bad you couldn't hear
my huge sigh of relief.

After reading this, you have given me a huge burst of hope. This message seems
very sincere and said all of the right things that I needed to hear. It also
made it clear that the BrickLink team is finally listening to its users. This
is amazing. Good luck making BrickLink XP shine, and I can't wait to see
how it progresses.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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  BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP.

Thank you for clarifying this. I'm well aware that ten years down the road
this could change, especially if 80-90% of people are using XP by then. And
if, by that point, XP does everything that BrickLink does now and more, then
the world won't end if the changeover is made.

The key concern I had is that the best features of BrickLink would be lost in
the rush toward progress. It is still a concern, but less of one now. And,
hopefully, this version of the site would still remain accessible even then for
the sake of historical interest (because XP, while more fashionable and modern,
doesn't look or feel much like BrickLink).
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The issue still with accepting onsite payments is that depending on amount, we
have payment sent to different accounts. I still don't see that the issue
has been resolved.


In Administrative, StormChaser writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP.

Thank you for clarifying this. I'm well aware that ten years down the road
this could change, especially if 80-90% of people are using XP by then. And
if, by that point, XP does everything that BrickLink does now and more, then
the world won't end if the changeover is made.

The key concern I had is that the best features of BrickLink would be lost in
the rush toward progress. It is still a concern, but less of one now. And,
hopefully, this version of the site would still remain accessible even then for
the sake of historical interest (because XP, while more fashionable and modern,
doesn't look or feel much like BrickLink).
 Author: Mistress_Lisa View Messages Posted By Mistress_Lisa
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In Administrative, starbeanie writes:
  The issue still with accepting onsite payments is that depending on amount, we
have payment sent to different accounts. I still don't see that the issue
has been resolved.

Not only sent to different accounts, but since the Post Office changed rates
to a zone-based rate, instant checkout cannot be implemented in my store unless
I were to throw up my hands and just decide to charge all customers the highest
zone rates! Can we not have a way to determine postal charges automatically based
on the seller's location to the buyer's location? If Fleabay has it,
why doesn't BrickLink?

Lisa at Brick Dungeon
  

In Administrative, StormChaser writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP.

Thank you for clarifying this. I'm well aware that ten years down the road
this could change, especially if 80-90% of people are using XP by then. And
if, by that point, XP does everything that BrickLink does now and more, then
the world won't end if the changeover is made.

The key concern I had is that the best features of BrickLink would be lost in
the rush toward progress. It is still a concern, but less of one now. And,
hopefully, this version of the site would still remain accessible even then for
the sake of historical interest (because XP, while more fashionable and modern,
doesn't look or feel much like BrickLink).
 Author: Kenopolis View Messages Posted By Kenopolis
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Not only sent to different accounts, but since the Post Office changed rates
to a zone-based rate, instant checkout cannot be implemented in my store unless
I were to throw up my hands and just decide to charge all customers the highest
zone rates! Can we not have a way to determine postal charges automatically based
on the seller's location to the buyer's location? If Fleabay has it,
why doesn't BrickLink?

Lisa at Brick Dungeon


I Second this. The Zone issue is the main reason I have not implemented instant
check out.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
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In Administrative, Kenopolis writes:
  
  
Not only sent to different accounts, but since the Post Office changed rates
to a zone-based rate, instant checkout cannot be implemented in my store unless
I were to throw up my hands and just decide to charge all customers the highest
zone rates! Can we not have a way to determine postal charges automatically based
on the seller's location to the buyer's location? If Fleabay has it,
why doesn't BrickLink?

Lisa at Brick Dungeon


I Second this. The Zone issue is the main reason I have not implemented instant
check out.

The main reason I haven’t implemented IC is because I sell on three different
platforms and whilst I try to ensure stocks are accurate between the sites there
are so many different factors that make this difficult for starters if you have
a good stock of a particular hair piece for example you may think you can just
spread that stock out evenly between the three sites but all of a sudden some
of that stock gets taken to build minifigs which are then also sold between the
three sites and then a few more of those parts get taken from stock to be sent
out as customer replacements for lost mail and all of a sudden you’re not able
to fulfil the customers requirements and whilst this is not ideal its even less
ideal when they've actually paid for their order and you’re having to refund
and explain why they can't have what they paid for? Then of course you still
have the difficulties of trying to get the shipping right when using IC, under-price
it and you’re out of pocket and if you accidentally over charge it may not go
down very well with your customer?

I understand from Bricklinks point of view why IC seems like the most simple,
quick, straightforward shopping solution to want implemented accross the site
but instead of frowning upon sellers that choose to manually invoice and excluding
it from XP perhaps look at all the things BL doesn’t like about manual invoicing
and address those matters instead?

For instance as has already been mentioned by myself and others before...

If sellers choose not to use IC the downside of this should be that any generated
orders should be treated like quotes meaning the buyer is entitled to cancel/change
their mind once they’ve received the final invoice with all the added shipping/fees
etc..
The buyer should also have the convenience of having that stock held for them
while they wait for the seller to invoice them and so that buyers aren’t left
hanging around make it compulsory for sellers to respond to quotes within a
set time and for any sellers that continuously take too long to invoice they
should be flagged up with a warning! (This is something Brickowl already has
implemented!)

You are then left with two types of buying/checkout experiences on Bricklink
both of which are efficient, quick and completely transparent for the customer!
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In Administrative, infinibrix writes:
  In Administrative, Kenopolis writes:
  
  

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The main reason I haven’t implemented IC is because I sell on three different
platforms and whilst I try to ensure stocks are accurate between the sites there
are so many different factors that make this difficult for starters if you have
a good stock of a particular hair piece for example you may think you can just
spread that stock out evenly between the three sites but all of a sudden some
of that stock gets taken to build minifigs which are then also sold between the
three sites and then a few more of those parts get taken from stock to be sent
out as customer replacements for lost mail and all of a sudden you’re not able
to fulfil the customers requirements and whilst this is not ideal its even less
ideal when they've actually paid for their order and you’re having to refund
and explain why they can't have what they paid for?

The ToS has already addressed that:
Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must
not be greater than the quantity you have on hand.
It is also a valid cause
for an OCR by the buyer. It would be a pretty idiotic seller who would not agree
to cancel in such a case.

  Then of course you still
have the difficulties of trying to get the shipping right when using IC, under-price
it and you’re out of pocket and if you accidentally over charge it may not go
down very well with your customer?

Dunno, we have a pretty complicated setup and yet it is still manageable. I've
found that by using a few standard size ziplock, box and envelope sizes and by
precutting things like bubblewrap to exact measurements, I've pretty much
cancelled out error. For the few really BUPS or baseplates, I've tested and
overwrapped so I'll probably move those from manual as well. The only parts
I have great difficulty with are magnets which must be overwrapped by 2 inches
on all sides, which is fine for 1 or 2 but gets to be a problem when more are
packed.

  
I understand from Bricklinks point of view why IC seems like the most simple,
quick, straightforward shopping solution to want implemented accross the site
but instead of frowning upon sellers that choose to manually invoice and excluding
it from XP perhaps look at all the things BL doesn’t like about manual invoicing
and address those matters instead?

For instance as has already been mentioned by myself and others before...

If sellers choose not to use IC the downside of this should be that any generated
orders should be treated like quotes meaning the buyer is entitled to cancel/change
their mind once they’ve received the final invoice with all the added shipping/fees
etc..

That is already in the ToS and a valid reason to cancel. It is up to sellers
to put in their terms. Note the line from the ToS: "Seller provided a shipping
fee that was too high (not clearly stated in the seller’s terms and conditions
of sale)"
I do not know why BL does not enforce this.


  The buyer should also have the convenience of having that stock held for them
while they wait for the seller to invoice them

Hmm, I think you mean while they wait for the quote? Seller can only invoice
when an order is placed, and that already conveniently holds the inventory for
the buyer. For quotes, I agree, that must be kept for the buyer for a time period
set by the seller.

  and so that buyers aren’t left
hanging around make it compulsory for sellers to respond to quotes within a
set time and for any sellers that continuously take too long to invoice they
should be flagged up with a warning! (This is something Brickowl already has
implemented!)

NRS for quotes as well? I would not like that, even as a buyer. Hold the inventory,
that should be an incentive to motor with the quote. The time period for NRS's
should reduce. If a seller cannot for whatever reason invoice within 3 business
days, the buyer should be able to request a cancellation within 3 days after
that, 21 days is ways too long.

  
You are then left with two types of buying/checkout experiences on Bricklink
both of which are efficient, quick and completely transparent for the customer!
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In Administrative, infinibrix writes:
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Not only sent to different accounts, but since the Post Office changed rates
to a zone-based rate, instant checkout cannot be implemented in my store unless
I were to throw up my hands and just decide to charge all customers the highest
zone rates! Can we not have a way to determine postal charges automatically based
on the seller's location to the buyer's location? If Fleabay has it,
why doesn't BrickLink?

Lisa at Brick Dungeon


I Second this. The Zone issue is the main reason I have not implemented instant
check out.

The main reason I haven’t implemented IC is because I sell on three different
platforms (...)

I don't see how IC or manual invoicing makes any difference there. In the
one case you will need to refund the missing part, in the other case you need
to credit it. Or possibly cancel the order or order the part elsewhere, in both
cases. Don't really see how IC is a drawback in any of this.

Anyway I've been selling on 2 platforms with the same stock and that works.
The chance that two people buy you out on the same thing the same day is very
small, but it does happen a few times a year perhaps. I think if you'd just
order the missing item from another seller you're still making more profit
in the end than if you'd split the stock. But personal choice I guess, it
does feel a little stressful to offer the same stock on 2 platforms when you're
getting 10 orders a day.
(I don't believe it is wrong to cancel a part and let the buyer know it's
out of stock, either (if it's not a super important part). If another buyer
bought it a little bit earlier on another platform, that's just a consequence
of the system and it happens to professional companies too. It's not a deliberate
attempt to list things you don't have on hand or anything like that.)

   Then of course you still
have the difficulties of trying to get the shipping right when using IC, under-price
it and you’re out of pocket and if you accidentally over charge it may not go
down very well with your customer?

Never had an issue with that. Nobody expects instant checkout charges to match
the price of a stamp in modern e-commerce. Only a few old style Bricklink members
might, but I never encountered it. All buyers want is to see what it costs.
Pizza delivery is also €1.50 regardless of the distance - people don't get
upset when they realise they live near the pizzeria and delivery could have been
cheaper.

The only really valid reason I can see for not using IC is if it really is impossible
for an automatic system to calculate shipping costs in a roughly correct way,
because for example there are parameters like zones within a country that the
sytem is missing, and they have a very big impact on what is the price is going
to be. In all other situations I think IC should just be the norm..
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, infinibrix writes:
  In Administrative, Kenopolis writes:
  
  

snip

  
   Then of course you still
have the difficulties of trying to get the shipping right when using IC, under-price
it and you’re out of pocket and if you accidentally over charge it may not go
down very well with your customer?

Never had an issue with that. Nobody expects instant checkout charges to match
the price of a stamp in modern e-commerce. Only a few old style Bricklink members
might, but I never encountered it. All buyers want is to see what it costs.
Pizza delivery is also €1.50 regardless of the distance - people don't get
upset when they realise they live near the pizzeria and delivery could have been
cheaper.

As an interesting aside, in the EU there is some transparency with delivery rates
for parcels, letterpost and packages, and the seller sending cross border in
the EU, should make the delivery cost available in the pre-contract stage. Another
reason to make invoices the binding document, and not the order, thus IC.

This is a handy tool I use for checking when ordering in the EU for delivery
in the EU:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/shipping-delivery/index_en.htm
since my forwarders use weight and not size. Makes it easy to see what is reasonable.
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In Administrative, bje writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, infinibrix writes:
  In Administrative, Kenopolis writes:
  
  

snip

  
   Then of course you still
have the difficulties of trying to get the shipping right when using IC, under-price
it and you’re out of pocket and if you accidentally over charge it may not go
down very well with your customer?

Never had an issue with that. Nobody expects instant checkout charges to match
the price of a stamp in modern e-commerce. Only a few old style Bricklink members
might, but I never encountered it. All buyers want is to see what it costs.
Pizza delivery is also €1.50 regardless of the distance - people don't get
upset when they realise they live near the pizzeria and delivery could have been
cheaper.

As an interesting aside, in the EU there is some transparency with delivery rates
for parcels, letterpost and packages, and the seller sending cross border in
the EU, should make the delivery cost available in the pre-contract stage. Another
reason to make invoices the binding document, and not the order, thus IC.

This is a handy tool I use for checking when ordering in the EU for delivery
in the EU:
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/shipping-delivery/index_en.htm
since my forwarders use weight and not size. Makes it easy to see what is reasonable.

Hmmm intersting, but over here at least it's all going to depend on the
shipping method... if I send something as a parcel it can be up to 10x as expensive
as when I send it as a letter. And non-registered Dutch shops don't have
access to the letter rates anymore..
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“The ToS has already addressed that:
Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must not
be greater than the quantity you have on hand”

Just to reply to this particular point in that there is a difference between
intentionally listing more quantity than you have compared with accidentally
making an oversight with being out of stock at the time of sale. Fortunately
for me it doesn’t occur very often because I generally don’t list all my stock
on any one platform at any one time as I keep backup stock for minifig builds
and also to fall back on so if I have 200 of a part you probably won’t see more
than around 30 or so listed on each of the three platforms I sell on and where
I have a very small quantity of parts that aren’t of any use to me they all usually
just get sold on BL

That said as a general response to both you guys because my stock is not being
sold on a single site and not always being used soley for selling I do not keep
accurate stock figures and I have to go by visual checks to see what I have left
while picking orders but as time passes by anything can happen, stock can be
depleted unexpectedly on any one site or not adjusted accordingly and whilst
I will often notice and can make adjustments other times it’s too late and someone
has purchased what I don’t have and I just prefer the idea of being able to properly
go over what has been ordered before I start accepting payment from people also
you have to remember that Bricklink is very different to ebay where having instant
checkout on minifigs and pre-batched lots makes more sense, with Bricklink you
have a bigger range of varied parts and products with different weights that
requires a lot more attention to detail in terms of checking it all off and charging
the appropriate shipping and as long as this is done fast and efficiently there
should be no drawback with offering this method over IC in my honest opinion?

As far as I can see the only reason buyers may disapprove of manual checkout
is because they either have to wait too long for invoice, the stock they want
can be snapped up and sold while they wait for that invoice or they are concerned
what sort of shipping charges and added fees the seller is going drop on them?
But if the buyer can cancel at any time, the stock is held while they wait for
the invoice/quote and the seller is expected to respond within a set time this
would make the method of manual checkout a lot more of an appealing and acceptable
option than it currently is!

That said if I’m forced to adapt to using IC then I guess I will have to do this,
I’m sure I will manage and get by fine for the most part but I’d still prefer
to have the option not just for my best interests but for my customers too!
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In Administrative, infinibrix writes:
  “The ToS has already addressed that:
Exact quantity: The quantity of the item that you are listing for sale must not
be greater than the quantity you have on hand”

Just to reply to this particular point in that there is a difference between
intentionally listing more quantity than you have compared with accidentally
making an oversight with being out of stock at the time of sale. Fortunately
for me it doesn’t occur very often because I generally don’t list all my stock
on any one platform at any one time as I keep backup stock for minifig builds
and also to fall back on so if I have 200 of a part you probably won’t see more
than around 30 or so listed on each of the three platforms I sell on and where
I have a very small quantity of parts that aren’t of any use to me they all usually
just get sold on BL

That said as a general response to both you guys because my stock is not being
sold on a single site and not always being used soley for selling I do not keep
accurate stock figures and I have to go by visual checks to see what I have left
while picking orders but as time passes by anything can happen, stock can be
depleted unexpectedly on any one site or not adjusted accordingly and whilst
I will often notice and can make adjustments other times it’s too late and someone
has purchased what I don’t have and I just prefer the idea of being able to properly
go over what has been ordered before I start accepting payment from people also
you have to remember that Bricklink is very different to ebay where having instant
checkout on minifigs and pre-batched lots makes more sense, with Bricklink you
have a bigger range of varied parts and products with different weights that
requires a lot more attention to detail in terms of checking it all off and charging
the appropriate shipping and as long as this is done fast and efficiently there
should be no drawback with offering this method over IC in my honest opinion?

The trouble here is that some sellers, and this might not be you in particular,
just does not ever adjust the order because, as best as I can make out, it is
too much PT to list properly, do proper stock control, count stock every once
in awhile and it is also too much PT to use an OIRC. What is not too much effort
really is to take my money.

So you will find a fast invoice, fast payment and then afterwards just a refund
showing up with a little note that such and such part is missing. No adjustments
on CN22's so I pay tax on the missing part, no fee adjustment, no postage
adjustment for material differences (I've had sellers refuse to credit the
difference in shipping for entire sets), no adjustments for currency differences
or commissions.

Now while generally the impact is small, it is often times difficult to convince
sellers that a refund is not customer service and a one-sided partial refund
does not lead to fulfilling the contract for both parties as a matter of course.

Now if a seller pulls the parts and invoices correctly, then no problem at all.
But that methodology has its own problems. Generally I find that IC orders cuts
these problems somewhat, but for myself as a seller, it just means dealing with
my inventory and my store on a more professional basis. I've found the response
to be generally more favourable.

You should also know that I do have problems with the management of IC by the
site, as it is not a feature rich function. There are many improvements that
can be made and actually should be made before sellers are coerced into only
doing one thing. For that the site should come to the party first and offer a
product better suited to sellers' requirements and allow better setup of
it by sellers.

  
As far as I can see the only reason buyers may disapprove of manual checkout
is because they either have to wait too long for invoice, the stock they want
can be snapped up and sold while they wait for that invoice or they are concerned
what sort of shipping charges and added fees the seller is going drop on them?
But if the buyer can cancel at any time, the stock is held while they wait for
the invoice/quote and the seller is expected to respond within a set time this
would make the method of manual checkout a lot more of an appealing and acceptable
option than it currently is!

Agreed. Especially internationally, we recently had a 40% devaluation of currency
virtually over a short period. That seller who took two weeks to invoice was
not rewarded with payment for his trouble.

  
That said if I’m forced to adapt to using IC then I guess I will have to do this,
I’m sure I will manage and get by fine for the most part but I’d still prefer
to have the option not just for my best interests but for my customers too!

See my note above, I'm not convinced that IC is a complete enough product
to force it down everybody's throats. As a for instance, I do not allow IC
for domestic orders because I do not price goods in ZAR, but the postage/courier
cost is ZAR. I have also found that for smaller orders, it works better than
manual invoicing, but as I said - there is lot of work that needs to be done
on it.
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hopefully, this version of the site would still remain accessible even then for
the sake of historical interest (because XP, while more fashionable and modern,
doesn't look or feel much like BrickLink).

Actually, I wonder if we even remember what "classic" Bricklink really
is like? I remember even the current layout was mightly upsetting to many
members. This is a bit like news report studios - they keep changing, you notice
it at first, then forget about it, and only when you see old footage you go "it
looked like that? no way".

I remember somewhere we had an icon of a minifig with a yellow helmet and trans
neon green visor. That is just evil. Trans neon green and yellow should never
be used together, it breaks the law
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"Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled."
I'd better think on that before saying too much.
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I really love the increased and transparent communication we've been seeing.
I had always assumed XP would eventually replace Classic but am thrilled to hear
that it's just to complement it and provide a much easier interface for those
just coming out of the Dark Ages.

It's not that long ago that I was in that same boat. I had never imagined
that there were sites where people could purchase individual bricks, figures,
you name it. And to this date, I still come across people just like that every
week and it's always so much fun to hear and see their reactions when you
try to tell them about these kinds of sites. They're instantly hooked.

As a newbie, the Classic BL site can be VERY intimidating, and it's not easy
to get around when you don't really know what you're looking for. Obviously,
for those who knows exactly what they're looking for, it's easy, especially
once you know the keywords and nomenclature. But I think XP will be a nice facelift
for those just getting their feet wet. It doesn't take long for people to
get the hang of it, and then they can delve into the Classic side.

I hope sellers tools see some significant rework/expansion of features. I feel
that it is one of the weakest points for Bricklink at the moment. Lack of analytics,
shipping integration (I personally care less about that, but allowing to setup
zones of some kind, for countries other than the US would be great - postal code
zones for Canadians as an example), support for regular and micro PayPal accounts
(based on order total), and my favourite - provincial taxes etc... These tools
allow sellers to provide a much better buying experience.

Overall though, I'm optimistic that XP will be a great boost to BL. And thank-you
again for the open communication with the community.
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Of course the reason people thought XP was designed to replace Classic was this
announcement from last week:

"The plan is for it to eventually replace BrickLink Classic once the new platform
is feature complete."
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In General, Emporiosa writes:
  
As a newbie, the Classic BL site can be VERY intimidating, and it's not easy
to get around when you don't really know what you're looking for. Obviously,
for those who knows exactly what they're looking for, it's easy, especially
once you know the keywords and nomenclature. But I think XP will be a nice facelift
for those just getting their feet wet. It doesn't take long for people to
get the hang of it, and then they can delve into the Classic side.


Your probably right that the current 'classic' Bricklink could be considered
intimidating and less accessible to many people but at the same time I can't
imagine Bricklink are developing XP just with newbies and casual buyers in mind.
It stands to reason that in the long term they will want XP to become their main
flagship platform used by practically everyone be that experienced or novice
user! I think the Bricklink team would see it all as a bit of a failure if it
was only regarded as a basic newbie platform to get people on board only for
many of those users to then switch to the 'so called' better more advanced
BL classic platform.

I think the idea is to implement all those advanced features into XP making BL
Classic almost redundant where its perhaps only used as a reference source for
those hardcore Lego enthusiasts that seek the sort of detailed data that most
of us probably don't care too much about

Either way its a nice annoucement from the BL team to put peoples minds at rest
though unlike many others I never doubted for a second that this was going to
be some kind of runaway train project that just steamed over it's entire
community without a second thought... but hey maybe a clearer announcement from
the Briclink team and more faith from the community was all that was in order
here?
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  Either way its a nice annoucement from the BL team to put peoples minds at rest
though unlike many others I never DOUBTED for a second that this was going to
be some kind of runaway train project that just steamed over it's entire
community without a second thought... but hey maybe a clearer announcement from
the Briclink team and more faith from the community was all that was in order
here?

erh I meant to say I never THOUGHT for a second
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In General, infinibrix writes:
  Either way its a nice annoucement from the BL team to put peoples minds at rest
though unlike many others I never doubted for a second that this was going to
be some kind of runaway train project that just steamed over it's entire
community without a second thought...

Can't be sure, I feel like if the previous owner (who wanted "Amazon for
Bricks") hadn't left Bricklink, it certainly could have been I remember
the MOC shop...
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This is really great news, thank you!
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Thank you. I can only speak for myself but this is exactly what I needed to hear.
I am a younger store and a lot has happened/changed on Bricklink since I opened,
so I can only imagine how the more established stores feel about these changes
based on how things may have been in the past. XP had me worried when it was
first rolled out, but my mind is cautiously at ease with this information.

I am encouraged by the understanding that the site needs some updating, but like
others have said it can not come at the expense of functionality or change what
makes Bricklink great and superior to other similar sites.

Something I am wondering is why not make a Bricklink App? Maybe that is in the
road map, but I think that would be a great way to expand Bricklink's footprint
and get it in front of people the way the interact with the internet the most.
I am a teacher and I can tell you that the generation that is coming up and will
be of age to be afols in the future use apps as their primary way of not only
communication online, but shopping as well.
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Something I am wondering is why not make a Bricklink App? Maybe that is in the
road map, but I think that would be a great way to expand Bricklink's footprint
and get it in front of people the way the interact with the internet the most.
I am a teacher and I can tell you that the generation that is coming up and will
be of age to be afols in the future use apps as their primary way of not only
communication online, but shopping as well.

Many “apps” are just “one website browsers.”
They only connect to the one website and “removed” the buttons, URL bar and so
on that a complete browser has, but it’s still the website underneath.

So, in a way, they are simple to make.
But it’s still more work than just the website.
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Thank you for this update and specifically for clarifying the position that the
goal is now not "... for it to eventually replace BrickLink Classic once the
new platform is feature complete
" , but rather " We do not intend to replace
the current version with BrickLink XP.
"

It is really gratifying that the community's voice is being listened to.
Just please in future, where the classic site's functionality for sellers
are impacted by changes to the XP platform, give a heads-up so I, as your customer,
can at least manage my store properly.

Thanks again and I will certainly watch future developments.
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  Dear BrickLink Community,

We want to thank you for the great feedback you shared with us regarding the beta release of BrickLink XP. As a BrickLink member kindly mentioned, a beta release offers a chance to root out bugs before adding more features. With the many concrete examples and concerns you shared here, we are in a much better position to progress with a solution that generates added value. BrickLink is very important to all of you, and for many of you, it provides stability and contributes to your livelihood. We understand how much change can affect these things, so we want BrickLink to be a platform that works better for you.

After going through your comments one by one, we feel that the true meaning of BrickLink XP’s beta launch was not fully delivered in the announcement message. Consequently, we want to follow up to clarify and address your questions and concerns. Kindly bear in mind as you read through the FAQs that BrickLink XP is a platform in its early stages, and we are already making adjustments to reflect some of your feedback.

FAQ

Will BrickLink XP replace the current version of BrickLink (Classic)?

BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP. BrickLink XP is a complete overhaul project to improve the performance of the decade-old software platform while streamlining the user experience for both mobile and desktop. We will continue to add more features and design BrickLink XP based on your feedback and your feedback only. In other words, you can decide which version you prefer to use.

What is the end goal of BrickLink XP?

It’s our mission to lower the entry barriers for all LEGO fans and provide tools to empower your creativity. BrickLink XP has two main goals aligned with this mission: provide a responsive, mobile-friendly version of BrickLink without sacrificing key features or information, and to help new users easily become advanced users. This phase is just the first step toward realizing the mission, and we will continue to move forward until we meet and exceed your expectations.

Where are all the features that I use on Classic?

BrickLink XP was launched in its beta phase with basic features only. We plan to add almost all the essential features from Classic to XP, including advanced store filters and Price Guide. BrickLink XP is a complete redesign, rewritten to be responsive and highly performant. It will take some time for us to develop and test, and we want to make sure it is done right.

How do I view a store’s inventory?

The storefront feature is on the roadmap to be added to BrickLink XP in the future, and we made the storefront one of the highest priority features after receiving your feedback.

Why was BrickLink XP launched in its current state?

We launched BrickLink XP in beta and only announced its release in the forum because we wanted to prioritize our future roadmap based on your opinions and feedback. We did not do external marketing for this beta launch so that we can reflect our seasoned members’ opinions first. We have read every single feedback and deeply appreciate all of your passionate participation.

Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

Why is my store not shown on BrickLink XP?

Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled. Instant Checkout is also strongly encouraged. Your store will not be displayed if it does not support either of these features. If your store supports Onsite payment and is not shown by default, your store is likely listed in the Domestic or International “All listings” page. On Classic, your store will be displayed as usual.

How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

To continue to learn from the beta release of BrickLink XP, please continue posting comments and concerns, as well as observations about the features that you like and work well for you. We will keep reading your comments, and we will keep updating the FAQ as we go along. Again, thank you for participating and providing feedback for this beta phase.

Thank you,
BrickLink Team



AHA, that makes more sense, thank you for this change of direction from the original
announcement.

So that your experienced sellers can ongoing give the feedback you are asking
for please can we have some sort of flag on orders to show us which were generated
in XP versus classic as we and others suggested. The type of orders as well as
volume of orders will be a critical measure determining the success of the platform.

We are certainly keen to assist with development but can do so more effectively
if we are informed of changes "before" they go live.

Thanks again

Robert
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Thanks for the update, it all sounds great! And you haven't even mentioned
the ambition to do some work on the payment methods, which is also great news
for anyone who's not into PayPal and/or has a customer base that's not
into PayPal

In NEWS, Admin writes:
  How do I view a store’s inventory?

The storefront feature is on the roadmap to be added to BrickLink XP in the future, and we made the storefront one of the highest priority features after receiving your feedback.

I think this is great. I get the philosophy of simplification, the idea of "don't
worry about all these stores, we'll get you the part you're searching
for", but on the other hand, the concept of browsing a store while you're
in it, is also essential.

Luckily these are not necessarily mutually exclusive concepts. It's going
to have to be a two-staged rocket: XP is going to do all its modern magic to
get you to the parts easily, and then before the deal is done, the buyer should
be somehow aware of the stores that have been chosen and be motivated by the
system as much as possible to go and browse them to add some more stuff (sorry
for beating your wallet here dear buyers, it's just how business works ).
A bit similar to impulse buys at the cashier.

I don't talk to buyers much, but the times I do, it's not uncommon that
they were looking for just one particular part and end up filling their cart
with tons of stuff. This is important to preserve, because it is a real downside
to BrickOwl: I am not sure how the buying experience there really works, but
what I do know is that their simplified modern system leads to almost exclusively
small orders. That's the reason why most of the time my store there is just
closed and I'm working exclusively on Bricklink, because the orders here
are bigger so it's a lot more productive and fun to pick them.

  
Why was BrickLink XP launched in its current state?

We launched BrickLink XP in beta and only announced its release in the forum because we wanted to prioritize our future roadmap based on your opinions and feedback. We did not do external marketing for this beta launch so that we can reflect our seasoned members’ opinions first. We have read every single feedback and deeply appreciate all of your passionate participation.

Sounds like a lesson learned There's not much to test if you have no clue
what is just not yet added and what is "removed", hence all the panic


  Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

Good idea in general, and it looks much less dramatic to me as some people have
put it. Everything is still there, just grouped in a hierarchy when previously
we had no hierarchy.
It is just that the current attempt, well, does not always make a lot of sense.
How about simply starting by putting under 1 umbrella all the categories that
literally have a structure in their name already?? They seem to be intended to
be in a subcategory together from the start.

Minfig
-Minifig, Headgear
-Minifig, Hair
-Minifig, Head
-Minifig, Utensil
etc.

Technic
-Technic(, Misc)
-Technic, Gear
-Technic, Axle
-Technic, Steering
etc.

Plate
-Plate(, Standard)
-Plate, Modified
-Plate, Round
-Plate, Decorated

I don't think that anyone could possibly object to this, and if it turns
out not enough, at least it's already a significant portion that will be
uncontroversial. I don't like things like "object" and "building" (pretty
much everything that is not a vehicle is going to be a building ) but I do
like the grouping of "Vehicle" categories (although I would simply put land,
sea and air all under 1 umbrella). BrickOwl has a pretty good hierarchy, perhaps
something can be learned from it (BrickOwl learned a lot from Bricklink's
category so it's only fair).

By the way, the way I teach someone entirely new to Lego the Lego taxonomy is
like this: Brick, Plate, Slope and Tile are the main concepts to understand,
they are the big four. They contain all the basic building parts, and they all
have subcategories. Then there's Minifig for all minifig parts and Technic
for Technic, and the rest is a matter of searching and learning.

  How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

Thanks for clarifying this, this was much needed. At least now we have some notion
of the rules of the game - that makes competition more fair, now we know what
we are judged on. Maybe the algorythm is not entirely transparent, but
the only way to make it fully transparent is to base it off prices only, and
I am glad that you're not doing that. That would only push prices down even
further which is not what we need right now.


  To continue to learn from the beta release of BrickLink XP, please continue posting comments and concerns, as well as observations about the features that you like and work well for you. We will keep reading your comments, and we will keep updating the FAQ as we go along. Again, thank you for participating and providing feedback for this beta phase.

Thanks!
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In General, Teup writes:
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  How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

Thanks for clarifying this, this was much needed. At least now we have some notion
of the rules of the game - that makes competition more fair, now we know what
we are judged on. Maybe the algorythm is not entirely transparent, but
the only way to make it fully transparent is to base it off prices only, and
I am glad that you're not doing that. That would only push prices down even
further which is not what we need right now.

“Estimated shipping” is the biggest problem. The rest is linear programming/optimization
and how you valuate (give a “price”) to some “soft” parameters (feedback?) and
how you “cut corners” (‘store already in the cart’? this one is already weighted
by shipping cost, so I guess it’s something like “don’t bother looking for another
store if the part is in an already picked store and its price isn’t ‘too high’”).

For shipping, from the little information we had in the past, it’s “how much
it had (recently?) cost for ‘similar’ packages between seller’s and buyer’s ‘adresses’.”
That’s vague and prone to many biases.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  […]
  How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

Thanks for clarifying this, this was much needed. At least now we have some notion
of the rules of the game - that makes competition more fair, now we know what
we are judged on. Maybe the algorythm is not entirely transparent, but
the only way to make it fully transparent is to base it off prices only, and
I am glad that you're not doing that. That would only push prices down even
further which is not what we need right now.

“Estimated shipping” is the biggest problem. The rest is linear programming/optimization
and how you valuate (give a “price”) to some “soft” parameters (feedback?) and
how you “cut corners” (‘store already in the cart’? this one is already weighted
by shipping cost, so I guess it’s something like “don’t bother looking for another
store if the part is in an already picked store and its price isn’t ‘too high’”).

For shipping, from the little information we had in the past, it’s “how much
it had (recently?) cost for ‘similar’ packages between seller’s and buyer’s ‘adresses’.”
That’s vague and prone to many biases.

Yeah, didn't want to start a discussion about the specifics myself (because
I know other members already put that point on the agenda) but I had no actual
clue what "estimated shipping" even meant in cases where there's no instant
checkout, multiple shipping methods or very funky price jumps in the rate table.
Interesting that it is based on historic data, I had no idea. That bit can certainly
do with some more clarification. Not sure if I should put a handling fee in the
shipping prices or in the part prices.. more or less the same price for the buyer,
but potentially a different result in the algorythm.
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In General, Teup writes:
  Thanks for the update, it all sounds great! And you haven't even mentioned
the ambition to do some work on the payment methods, which is also great news
for anyone who's not into PayPal and/or has a customer base that's not
into PayPal

That is good news!

I got PayPal just to be able to pay for international orders on BrickLink.
New Dutch customers would expect to pay using iDeal, they won't have PayPal.
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  We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

It's good news that there has been a significant U-turn, especially the goal
of XP replacing classic.

As to the catalogue, I hope this means that you are not going to removing themes.
If you want new users to find things like aliens, then have a tag "alien" or
put alien in the name. There is no need to throw-away the theme names just to
put all aliens in one place. The same with sets, do not throw away theme names
and put everything to do with Space in one unsorted generic theme.

You might think you gain something for new users by having all monsters or aliens
or in their own directories in the catalogue, but as soon as those users become
slightly advanced, and want to find all the minifigures from, say, Monster Fighters
or Galaxy Squad, then they will need to use another site to do this. This means
moving away from BL to find the information they need.
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A few thoughts on my first experience with XP;

I saw that sets had the Green Grocer featured as the image next to it, so I clicked
on sets to find the Green Grocer. Modulars weren't listed on the first screen
so I went to Retired and Vintage. It wasn't listed on that list either.
Then I had to scroll around all of the sets and finally found it as a sub-theme
under Expert, but this set isn't in the Expert line?

When I did find it, it comes up for me to buy it from The Missing Brick, when
another store has 3 listed for a lower price? Why doesn't it give me a listing
of all stores for that same item?

Sounds "Fresh on the Catalog" actually be "Fresh in the Catalog?"

Glad to have progress, especially on a mobile view.
Wesley
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  Dear BrickLink Community,

We want to thank you for the great feedback you shared with us regarding the beta release of BrickLink XP. As a BrickLink member kindly mentioned, a beta release offers a chance to root out bugs before adding more features. With the many concrete examples and concerns you shared here, we are in a much better position to progress with a solution that generates added value. BrickLink is very important to all of you, and for many of you, it provides stability and contributes to your livelihood. We understand how much change can affect these things, so we want BrickLink to be a platform that works better for you.

After going through your comments one by one, we feel that the true meaning of BrickLink XP’s beta launch was not fully delivered in the announcement message. Consequently, we want to follow up to clarify and address your questions and concerns. Kindly bear in mind as you read through the FAQs that BrickLink XP is a platform in its early stages, and we are already making adjustments to reflect some of your feedback.

FAQ

Will BrickLink XP replace the current version of BrickLink (Classic)?

BrickLink XP and Classic will co-exist. We do not intend to replace the current version with BrickLink XP. BrickLink XP is a complete overhaul project to improve the performance of the decade-old software platform while streamlining the user experience for both mobile and desktop. We will continue to add more features and design BrickLink XP based on your feedback and your feedback only. In other words, you can decide which version you prefer to use.

What is the end goal of BrickLink XP?

It’s our mission to lower the entry barriers for all LEGO fans and provide tools to empower your creativity. BrickLink XP has two main goals aligned with this mission: provide a responsive, mobile-friendly version of BrickLink without sacrificing key features or information, and to help new users easily become advanced users. This phase is just the first step toward realizing the mission, and we will continue to move forward until we meet and exceed your expectations.

Where are all the features that I use on Classic?

BrickLink XP was launched in its beta phase with basic features only. We plan to add almost all the essential features from Classic to XP, including advanced store filters and Price Guide. BrickLink XP is a complete redesign, rewritten to be responsive and highly performant. It will take some time for us to develop and test, and we want to make sure it is done right.

How do I view a store’s inventory?

The storefront feature is on the roadmap to be added to BrickLink XP in the future, and we made the storefront one of the highest priority features after receiving your feedback.

Why was BrickLink XP launched in its current state?

We launched BrickLink XP in beta and only announced its release in the forum because we wanted to prioritize our future roadmap based on your opinions and feedback. We did not do external marketing for this beta launch so that we can reflect our seasoned members’ opinions first. We have read every single feedback and deeply appreciate all of your passionate participation.

Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.

Why is my store not shown on BrickLink XP?

Currently, BrickLink XP only displays stores that have Onsite payment enabled. Instant Checkout is also strongly encouraged. Your store will not be displayed if it does not support either of these features. If your store supports Onsite payment and is not shown by default, your store is likely listed in the Domestic or International “All listings” page. On Classic, your store will be displayed as usual.

How does BrickLink XP determine the suggested store?

BrickLink XP adopts a holistic algorithm to determine the store that is displayed by default on the product detail page. This algorithm is based on the item price, quantity, condition, stores already in the cart, estimated shipping cost, and feedback ratings. However, after reading all your feedback, we are determined to preserve the Classic store listings style you all know and love by allowing you to more thoroughly compare stores and retain control over your buying experience. You can expect updates in this area in the future.

To continue to learn from the beta release of BrickLink XP, please continue posting comments and concerns, as well as observations about the features that you like and work well for you. We will keep reading your comments, and we will keep updating the FAQ as we go along. Again, thank you for participating and providing feedback for this beta phase.

Thank you,
BrickLink Team


Honestly, keeping the classic Bricklink is all I care about. Never cared one
way or the other but all this XP talk in the past. If you guys think it will
boost sales, great. But as long as both will co-exist, I really couldn't
care less.
  
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  Dear BrickLink Community,

Hello,

I can scarcely express how pleased and surprised I am to see this message. This
is exactly the kind of professional, considerate response that has been badly
wanted. Thank you so very much to whomever is causing this fantastic change and
please keep it up. Your efforts are appreciated.

I can actually go back to work this morning with confidence that my store will
still have a place on BrickLink in the future.

Jen
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Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.


I can understand your approach but I believe there is a much better solution.
Replacing our catalog would destroy 20 years of effort by the public on BrickLink.
Thank you for acknowledging this. But, standing up a separate concurrent catalog
is confusing, labor intensive, and leads to very uncertain outcomes. Are you
dedicating a staff member to monitor necessary changes and add new parts as they
are continuously released?

The best solution to this problem is to retain our current reference-based catalog
structure and add a separate tag system to use in your 'user friendly'
approach. If you want items to show up in generic Functional, Animal, Building
categories for new users to browse, then use a tag system to collect and display
those items. This causes no interference with advanced users and sellers. (I
bet our current volunteer admins and submitters might even be willing to help
build or maintain this database for you??)

Please consider this proposal for the future implication of the XP system you
designed.

Jen
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In General, jennnifer writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  
Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.


I can understand your approach but I believe there is a much better solution.
Replacing our catalog would destroy 20 years of effort by the public on BrickLink.
Thank you for acknowledging this. But, standing up a separate concurrent catalog
is confusing, labor intensive, and leads to very uncertain outcomes. Are you
dedicating a staff member to monitor necessary changes and add new parts as they
are continuously released?

The best solution to this problem is to retain our current reference-based catalog
structure and add a separate tag system to use in your 'user friendly'
approach. If you want items to show up in generic Functional, Animal, Building
categories for new users to browse, then use a tag system to collect and display
those items. This causes no interference with advanced users and sellers. (I
bet our current volunteer admins and submitters might even be willing to help
build or maintain this database for you??)

Please consider this proposal for the future implication of the XP system you
designed.

Jen

I don't know the intricacies about adding tags with how they've developed
the system, but I LOVE that suggestion and would be more than happy to help contribute
with associating tags to items in the catalogue should they go that route and
need volunteers to assist.
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In General, jennnifer writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  
Why was the catalog structure changed?

We approached the catalog structure from the perspective of a LEGO fan coming out of their dark ages and trying to find something based on visuals alone. A user in this position may not know the name of every piece or remember the name of a theme. We are re-evaluating the new catalog structure to find ways to make it more acceptable to advanced members as well.


I can understand your approach but I believe there is a much better solution.
Replacing our catalog would destroy 20 years of effort by the public on BrickLink.
Thank you for acknowledging this. But, standing up a separate concurrent catalog
is confusing, labor intensive, and leads to very uncertain outcomes. Are you
dedicating a staff member to monitor necessary changes and add new parts as they
are continuously released?

The best solution to this problem is to retain our current reference-based catalog
structure and add a separate tag system to use in your 'user friendly'
approach. If you want items to show up in generic Functional, Animal, Building
categories for new users to browse, then use a tag system to collect and display
those items. This causes no interference with advanced users and sellers. (I
bet our current volunteer admins and submitters might even be willing to help
build or maintain this database for you??)

Please consider this proposal for the future implication of the XP system you
designed.

Jen

I second this completely. Tags are definitely the way to go!
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I find this post to be fantastic!
It alleviates the major concerns regarding Bricklink's future, and gives
us (users) the peace of mind that the spirit of freedom to buy, sell and search
(within a very reasonable TOS) is going to remain in the hands of the user.
The move to neutralize the algorithms in order to make searches on the site completely
in the control of the user should also show that the Bricklink team has shown
us that they are listening and empathize with sellers big and small- this is
really heartwarming.
It shows that the BL team is working hard and listening to it's users and
have shown amazing character and reason by toggling some of the original changes
to accommodate concerns that users have expressed.
Keeping the classic version is also comforting to those of us who are set in
our ways and gives users the FREEDOM to choose which version of the site works
for them, this will help new buyer and seasoned ones.
I have never had more confidence in this team, the site has been accommodating
the extra traffic like a champ-
I am just so happy!
Thank you Bricklink!
The future of Dan's legacy has never looked brighter!
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How do we view all the responses on one page vs having to click on every single
one?

Also, I'm looking forward to the future. Thanks
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In Administrative, MidwestBrick writes:
  How do we view all the responses on one page vs having to click on every single
one?

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=267542&nID=1195669
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, MidwestBrick writes:
  How do we view all the responses on one page vs having to click on every single
one?

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=267542&nID=1195669

Answer for next time (and another thread): open any of the answers, it will show
as a “normal” message, with the “Entire thread on one page” link at the bottom.
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, MidwestBrick writes:
  How do we view all the responses on one page vs having to click on every single
one?

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=267542&nID=1195669

Answer for next time (and another thread): open any of the answers, it will show
as a “normal” message, with the “Entire thread on one page” link at the bottom.

Or click on the image in the message list.
 
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In Administrative, WoutR writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, MidwestBrick writes:
  How do we view all the responses on one page vs having to click on every single
one?

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=267542&nID=1195669

Answer for next time (and another thread): open any of the answers, it will show
as a “normal” message, with the “Entire thread on one page” link at the bottom.

Or click on the image in the message list.

Ooh, this one is well hidden: it’s everywhere!
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In Administrative, FastParts writes:
  Not totally understanding XP.....

If i search for a part in my own store, of course, I don't see it.

But I looked up part 40385 in trans-dark-pink.
In XP I get a store selling it for 6.32€
EXACTLY in the same store in classic, SAME PART, SAME COLOR the part is 4.74€


How is this possible....

That is strange, and extra, why do I see this crazy expensive one in this store
in XP. Instead of this part for a normal price in another store....

Not getting the system I think....

Best regards and very curious....

Sven

Maybe the store in classic doesn't offer on-site payment. Or was just not
added to XP for whatever reason even though they have it (I'm looking at
you, BrickLink).
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In Administrative, Soviet writes:
  In Administrative, FastParts writes:
  Not totally understanding XP.....

If i search for a part in my own store, of course, I don't see it.

But I looked up part 40385 in trans-dark-pink.
In XP I get a store selling it for 6.32€
EXACTLY in the same store in classic, SAME PART, SAME COLOR the part is 4.74€


How is this possible....

That is strange, and extra, why do I see this crazy expensive one in this store
in XP. Instead of this part for a normal price in another store....

Not getting the system I think....

Best regards and very curious....

Sven



That's interesting, I will look at that and see if the site has added a recovery
fee for XP's development...
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In Administrative, Soviet writes:
  In Administrative, FastParts writes:
  Not totally understanding XP.....

If i search for a part in my own store, of course, I don't see it.

But I looked up part 40385 in trans-dark-pink.
In XP I get a store selling it for 6.32€
EXACTLY in the same store in classic, SAME PART, SAME COLOR the part is 4.74€


How is this possible....

That is strange, and extra, why do I see this crazy expensive one in this store
in XP. Instead of this part for a normal price in another store....

Not getting the system I think....

Best regards and very curious....

Sven

Maybe the store in classic doesn't offer on-site payment. Or was just not
added to XP for whatever reason even though they have it (I'm looking at
you, BrickLink).

It is because one listing is NEW and one is USED.
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, Soviet writes:
  In Administrative, FastParts writes:
  Not totally understanding XP.....

If i search for a part in my own store, of course, I don't see it.

But I looked up part 40385 in trans-dark-pink.
In XP I get a store selling it for 6.32€
EXACTLY in the same store in classic, SAME PART, SAME COLOR the part is 4.74€


How is this possible....

That is strange, and extra, why do I see this crazy expensive one in this store
in XP. Instead of this part for a normal price in another store....

Not getting the system I think....

Best regards and very curious....

Sven

Maybe the store in classic doesn't offer on-site payment. Or was just not
added to XP for whatever reason even though they have it (I'm looking at
you, BrickLink).

It is because one listing is NEW and one is USED.



I did not find the exact store referenced, however, I did find a few stores with
that fin part. I also selected a random list of 20 other parts to check.

I found expected differences in prices among the stores, and significant differences
between new and used listings. However, I did not find any differences, other
than rounding, between "Classic" and "XP" listings.

I have to agree yorbrick's conclusion.
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In NEWS, Admin writes:

SNIP for brevity

  BrickLink Team



We sent feedback twice but have not received any response. Is this normal?

We found a rather big issue:

If you look for the Fire Nation ship (3829-1) on classic you will see that it
is available for sale in new condition in three shops. However, in XP it says
that it is not available.

Another issue is that, for instance if we look for part 26604 in tan on XP we
cannot find our shop whether we look at local or international shops. We have
thousands of this part for sale our shop does not appear anywhere.

We have onsite payment but can't seem to find out why we don't appear
on XP.

Perhaps this should have been sent by email to an admin but we weren't able
to find an email address to send it to and also, perhaps other users have similar
concerns and would benefit from a public response.
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  If you look for the Fire Nation ship (3829-1) on classic you will see that it
is available for sale in new condition in three shops. However, in XP it says
that it is not available.

It is not available from any store in new condition, with instant checkout /
invoicing / shipping methods defined.
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In Administrative, CanadaFirst writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:

SNIP for brevity

  BrickLink Team



We sent feedback twice but have not received any response. Is this normal?

We found a rather big issue:

If you look for the Fire Nation ship (3829-1) on classic you will see that it
is available for sale in new condition in three shops. However, in XP it says
that it is not available.

Another issue is that, for instance if we look for part 26604 in tan on XP we
cannot find our shop whether we look at local or international shops. We have
thousands of this part for sale our shop does not appear anywhere.

We have onsite payment but can't seem to find out why we don't appear
on XP.

Perhaps this should have been sent by email to an admin but we weren't able
to find an email address to send it to and also, perhaps other users have similar
concerns and would benefit from a public response.

I think there is a mistake in the announcement. It states that onsite payment
is required and instant checkout recommended, but if I understand it right, those
two should be the other way around. That would be consistent with everything
you describe.
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In Administrative, CanadaFirst writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:

SNIP for brevity

  BrickLink Team



We sent feedback twice but have not received any response. Is this normal?

We found a rather big issue:

If you look for the Fire Nation ship (3829-1) on classic you will see that it
is available for sale in new condition in three shops. However, in XP it says
that it is not available.

Another issue is that, for instance if we look for part 26604 in tan on XP we
cannot find our shop whether we look at local or international shops. We have
thousands of this part for sale our shop does not appear anywhere.

We have onsite payment but can't seem to find out why we don't appear
on XP.

Perhaps this should have been sent by email to an admin but we weren't able
to find an email address to send it to and also, perhaps other users have similar
concerns and would benefit from a public response.

We did get your feedback. A lot of bugs have been fixed since XP was launched,
but we haven't been able to get to all of them yet.
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I’m beginning to wonder if the new algorithm is being used for both XP and classic.
The only difference now is the skin. Ever since the launch my orders have dropped
off a cliff.

Getting about 20% of the orders since this improvement came into being...