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 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
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This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.

As online privacy concerns continue to be taken more seriously, we are starting
to develop policies and procedures for handling private information in a responsible
and transparent manner. This has nothing to do with the sale of the site, as
these policies have been under development (slowly) since the early part of 2019.

When a Forum user has their account terminated, now as a rule any thread or part
of a thread that they initiated will be canceled. Exceptions may be made for
information that is part of a critical forum discussion, or for catalog / inventory
data that may need to be preserved. Also, the username on the terminated account
may be replaced.

We have had some questions come in regarding the canceling of otherwise harmless
posts, so this is the explanation for that. If one of your posts gets canceled
as a result of this policy, it doesn't mean you have engendered the wrath
of the site.
 Author: mockingbird View Messages Posted By mockingbird
 Posted: Dec 13, 2019 06:07
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This will result in even more hard to read forum threads.
Would it be possible to just change the username to 'terminated' (followed
with a number)?
So the threads will remain readable. Also this would mean much less work for
the administration.

Of course, personal information (actual name, address, etc) should never be in
any forum post.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Administrative, mockingbird writes:
  This will result in even more hard to read forum threads.
Would it be possible to just change the username to 'terminated' (followed
with a number)?
So the threads will remain readable. Also this would mean much less work for
the administration.

Of course, personal information (actual name, address, etc) should never be in
any forum post.

I guess the problem is that in replies (like this one) the username is often
also repeated. If they want to remove the username from the forum, then all subsequent
replies that repeat the username will need to be edited (whether manually or
automatically).
 Author: mockingbird View Messages Posted By mockingbird
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Yes, all occurances of the username should be replaced with 'terminated99999',
but that should be relatively easily done automatically.

A lot easier than going through all forum post/topics looking for a possible
thread that should not be canceled.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
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In Administrative, mockingbird writes:
  Yes, all occurances of the username should be replaced with 'terminated99999',
but that should be relatively easily done automatically.

A lot easier than going through all forum post/topics looking for a possible
thread that should not be canceled.
We are not going to go through years of forum posts. Those would be considered
historically important. The users getting terminated in these cases are zero
/ low feedback users whose accounts often do not actually represent a real person.

FYI we rarely ever terminate an established user. Every once in a while someone
gets some of their account privileges revoked, but that is a different thing.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.

As online privacy concerns continue to be taken more seriously, we are starting
to develop policies and procedures for handling private information in a responsible
and transparent manner. This has nothing to do with the sale of the site, as
these policies have been under development (slowly) since the early part of 2019.

When a Forum user has their account terminated, now as a rule any thread or part
of a thread that they initiated will be canceled. Exceptions may be made for
information that is part of a critical forum discussion, or for catalog / inventory
data that may need to be preserved. Also, the username on the terminated account
may be replaced.

We have had some questions come in regarding the canceling of otherwise harmless
posts, so this is the explanation for that. If one of your posts gets canceled
as a result of this policy, it doesn't mean you have engendered the wrath
of the site.

May I know since when this policy is taken in place? Like today or yesterday?
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
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In Administrative, SezaR writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.

As online privacy concerns continue to be taken more seriously, we are starting
to develop policies and procedures for handling private information in a responsible
and transparent manner. This has nothing to do with the sale of the site, as
these policies have been under development (slowly) since the early part of 2019.

When a Forum user has their account terminated, now as a rule any thread or part
of a thread that they initiated will be canceled. Exceptions may be made for
information that is part of a critical forum discussion, or for catalog / inventory
data that may need to be preserved. Also, the username on the terminated account
may be replaced.

We have had some questions come in regarding the canceling of otherwise harmless
posts, so this is the explanation for that. If one of your posts gets canceled
as a result of this policy, it doesn't mean you have engendered the wrath
of the site.

May I know since when this policy is taken in place? Like today or yesterday?

For about 6 months.
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.


Thanks for clarifying the reason for the removal (cancellation) of these posts.
New to me

Later these questions came to my mind:
When painters stop painting and switch to sculpturing, are their paintings removed
from musea, cataloges, their interviews given removed from websites and papers/books?
When writers die, do their books move to the basement of libraries, are their
words destroyed by fire?

In other words: when members stop being a member of the BL-community, what is
the reason their input (in any form) is to be deleted from the community?

It feels like erasing part of history; the good and the bad. I really think this
kind of action on posts of former members is a loss for the comminity and should
NOT be put into place.
When legal regulations make this obligatory, find other ways to preserve this
part of the history of the community please!
 Author: jenwick View Messages Posted By jenwick
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In Administrative, StarBrick writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.


Thanks for clarifying the reason for the removal (cancellation) of these posts.
New to me

Later these questions came to my mind:
When painters stop painting and switch to sculpturing, are their paintings removed
from musea, cataloges, their interviews given removed from websites and papers/books?
When writers die, do their books move to the basement of libraries, are their
words destroyed by fire?

In other words: when members stop being a member of the BL-community, what is
the reason their input (in any form) is to be deleted from the community?

It feels like erasing part of history; the good and the bad. I really think this
kind of action on posts of former members is a loss for the comminity and should
NOT be put into place.
When legal regulations make this obligatory, find other ways to preserve this
part of the history of the community please!

+1
 Author: Dino1 View Messages Posted By Dino1
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In Administrative, StarBrick writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.


Thanks for clarifying the reason for the removal (cancellation) of these posts.
New to me

Later these questions came to my mind:
When painters stop painting and switch to sculpturing, are their paintings removed
from musea, cataloges, their interviews given removed from websites and papers/books?
When writers die, do their books move to the basement of libraries, are their
words destroyed by fire?

In other words: when members stop being a member of the BL-community, what is
the reason their input (in any form) is to be deleted from the community?

It feels like erasing part of history; the good and the bad. I really think this
kind of action on posts of former members is a loss for the comminity and should
NOT be put into place.
When legal regulations make this obligatory, find other ways to preserve this
part of the history of the community please!

No reason to panic! When the member returns, such as StormChaser, the posts will
be reinstalled.
The whole thing is just ridiculous.
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
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In Administrative, Dino1 writes:
  In Administrative, StarBrick writes:

No reason to panic! When the member returns, such as StormChaser, the posts will
be reinstalled.
The whole thing is just ridiculous.

Was this installed on April 1st 2019?
 Author: tonnic View Messages Posted By tonnic
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Recently I got to know just a little bit more about what I think is meant here
by Russel.

A few days before this post from Russel there were some 0 feedback members with
legit we see a lot of.
Like shippingtime, costs, ordering etc. I do not know all details regarding these
questions but they were normal, no strange links or whatever.
Me and others answered these questiond, suddenly they were vanished, not the
normal cancel but really gone.

Later that day I saw one of the members from these questions mentioning being
bannished or revoked.
I answered to this post also, just like I/we always do.
Post got cancelled, vannished.

This made me curious, answering these questions take some time and effort in
making them clear so I made a forumpost regarding this matter.
I got shook up by a message from Bricklink and after some e-mails from me to
Bricklink and the other way around I understood that BL had more info on these
members than we can see, these were not the members we would want on Bricklink.

Therefore these posts go into thin air, we cannot even find them anymore.

So the complete reason goes above my/our payroll but I guess this is what is
being said by Russel but I think he will respond on our posts anyway.
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In Administrative, tonnic writes:

  I got shook up by a message from Bricklink and after some e-mails from me to
Bricklink and the other way around I understood that BL had more info on these
members than we can see, these were not the members we would want on Bricklink.

This is an important point. We don't want to give a voice in the Forum to
the following types of users (not an exhaustive list):

1) underage users, including children
2) sockpuppet accounts of known troublemakers that have been permanently banned
from the Forum
3) spam generators
4) trolls
5) duplicate accounts that have not been cleared by the administration

So when you suspect that an account is shady and may be terminated, either don't
reply to the post, or don't take it personally if your reply gets canceled
along with the rest. We treat these posts as "posts that should never have been
posted." And frankly you'd have to look very hard to find any worthwhile
reading content in these posts anyway.

I realize there is some humor and maybe even some lessons to be had in watching
one of these users get busted, but in looking at the whole picture, we don't
want to give anyone any further reason to have a grudge against the site. For
example, if an underage user is caught, if the thread isn't canceled, they
can see that humiliating experience on record without logging in. We want them
to come back when they are 18.

  Therefore these posts go into thin air, we cannot even find them anymore.

If you change your Forum settings, you can see all the posts that are canceled.
You can't see the content unless you are a Forum Mod, but you can see the
(Cancelled) tag plus the username.

A while back, we implemented a change to the default experience to minimize the
extend that spam ruins the average user's Forum experience:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1101998

I do have a way of making whole threads completely disappear, but this is used
in very exceptional circumstances.
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, tonnic writes:


Clarified!
Thanks Russell
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.

As online privacy concerns continue to be taken more seriously, we are starting
to develop policies and procedures for handling private information in a responsible
and transparent manner. This has nothing to do with the sale of the site, as
these policies have been under development (slowly) since the early part of 2019.

When a Forum user has their account terminated, now as a rule any thread or part
of a thread that they initiated will be canceled. Exceptions may be made for
information that is part of a critical forum discussion, or for catalog / inventory
data that may need to be preserved. Also, the username on the terminated account
may be replaced.

We have had some questions come in regarding the canceling of otherwise harmless
posts, so this is the explanation for that. If one of your posts gets canceled
as a result of this policy, it doesn't mean you have engendered the wrath
of the site.

I don't quite get it. Privacy is a great value but a username is a username:
it's not like John B. Carrington but something like blackcat15. People use
usernames to hide their real name/identity.
I imagine it is rather impossible to infringe the privacy of blackcat15. Can
you elaborate on this?
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In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  […]
I don't quite get it. Privacy is a great value but a username is a username:
it's not like John B. Carrington but something like blackcat15. People use
usernames to hide their real name/identity.
I imagine it is rather impossible to infringe the privacy of blackcat15. Can
you elaborate on this?

What’s in a name?
Why would “John B. Carrington” have more privacy than “blackcat15”?

Both can be pseudonyms. Both can be used elsewhere and hence link to a real
person.
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  […]
I don't quite get it. Privacy is a great value but a username is a username:
it's not like John B. Carrington but something like blackcat15. People use
usernames to hide their real name/identity.
I imagine it is rather impossible to infringe the privacy of blackcat15. Can
you elaborate on this?

What’s in a name?
Why would “John B. Carrington” have more privacy than “blackcat15”?

Both can be pseudonyms. Both can be used elsewhere and hence link to a real
person.

Please don't spoil my sincere question about my question.
Perhaps you didn't get my point about usernames.
I googled your username and got 2.560.000 results. There's a community in
France called Sylvains-les-Moulins and maybe that is where you're living.
But you also could live in any other part of France. And frankly I don't
want to scroll a million pages on Google to find out what your real name is and
where you live...
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In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  […]
I don't quite get it. Privacy is a great value but a username is a username:
it's not like John B. Carrington but something like blackcat15. People use
usernames to hide their real name/identity.
I imagine it is rather impossible to infringe the privacy of blackcat15. Can
you elaborate on this?

What’s in a name?
Why would “John B. Carrington” have more privacy than “blackcat15”?

Both can be pseudonyms. Both can be used elsewhere and hence link to a real
person.

Please don't spoil my sincere question about my question.

My answer is as sincere as your question was.


  Perhaps you didn't get my point about usernames.
I googled your username and got 2.560.000 results. There's a community in
France called Sylvains-les-Moulins and maybe that is where you're living.
But you also could live in any other part of France. And frankly I don't
want to scroll a million pages on Google to find out what your real name is and
where you live...

First, Why are you making it personal by talking about my username?
FYI, Sylvain is a common French firstname and, yes, there are villages with Sylvain
in their name.
“SylvainLS” is my username on various websites and easily linkable to an email
address.
(And even if I hadn’t confirmed that, you could have easily made the link between
the accounts by their contents.)

“Leftoverbricks” might seem “just a random username” but you’re a seller and
your personal info should already be readily available in your terms.
And even if you were to disappear from BrickLink, you username might still be
traced back to you by other means.
If BrickLink wants to keep your privacy (because either you or they don’t want
to you to be linked to the site/comment/content anymore), they would need to
remove your username too.


What I said is just that because, to you, “John B. Carrington” sounds more like
a real person’s name than “blackcat15,” it doesn’t give the string of characters
“John B. Carrington” more rights¹ or make it more easy to connect to a physical
person than the string of characters “blackcat15.”
(¹Contrarily to what Russell said in his answer.)

What if “blackcat15” was a famous artist, blogger, or whatever?

“Jay-Z” doesn’t look like a real name to me but it appears it’s a famous name
for a real person and both are easily linked to each other.

What I said is that before discarding “blackcat15” of their rights to privacy,
the username’s randomness should be carefully examined.
What I said is that a username has the same nature as a pseudonym which has the
same nature as a name and they all can identify a person in the same ways.
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  […]
I don't quite get it. Privacy is a great value but a username is a username:
it's not like John B. Carrington but something like blackcat15. People use
usernames to hide their real name/identity.
I imagine it is rather impossible to infringe the privacy of blackcat15. Can
you elaborate on this?

What’s in a name?
Why would “John B. Carrington” have more privacy than “blackcat15”?

Both can be pseudonyms. Both can be used elsewhere and hence link to a real
person.

Please don't spoil my sincere question about my question.

My answer is as sincere as your question was.


  Perhaps you didn't get my point about usernames.
I googled your username and got 2.560.000 results. There's a community in
France called Sylvains-les-Moulins and maybe that is where you're living.
But you also could live in any other part of France. And frankly I don't
want to scroll a million pages on Google to find out what your real name is and
where you live...

First, Why are you making it personal by talking about my username?
FYI, Sylvain is a common French firstname and, yes, there are villages with Sylvain
in their name.
“SylvainLS” is my username on various websites and easily linkable to an email
address.
(And even if I hadn’t confirmed that, you could have easily made the link between
the accounts by their contents.)

“Leftoverbricks” might seem “just a random username” but you’re a seller and
your personal info should already be readily available in your terms.
And even if you were to disappear from BrickLink, you username might still be
traced back to you by other means.
If BrickLink wants to keep your privacy (because either you or they don’t want
to you to be linked to the site/comment/content anymore), they would need to
remove your username too.


What I said is just that because, to you, “John B. Carrington” sounds more like
a real person’s name than “blackcat15,” it doesn’t give the string of characters
“John B. Carrington” more rights¹ or make it more easy to connect to a physical
person than the string of characters “blackcat15.”
(¹Contrarily to what Russell said in his answer.)

What if “blackcat15” was a famous artist, blogger, or whatever?

“Jay-Z” doesn’t look like a real name to me but it appears it’s a famous name
for a real person and both are easily linked to each other.

What I said is that before discarding “blackcat15” of their rights to privacy,
the username’s randomness should be carefully examined.
What I said is that a username has the same nature as a pseudonym which has the
same nature as a name and they all can identify a person in the same ways.

Ok Sylvain, this makes sense. And legally you, as well as Russell, are right.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. Bon nuit!
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In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.

As online privacy concerns continue to be taken more seriously, we are starting
to develop policies and procedures for handling private information in a responsible
and transparent manner. This has nothing to do with the sale of the site, as
these policies have been under development (slowly) since the early part of 2019.

When a Forum user has their account terminated, now as a rule any thread or part
of a thread that they initiated will be canceled. Exceptions may be made for
information that is part of a critical forum discussion, or for catalog / inventory
data that may need to be preserved. Also, the username on the terminated account
may be replaced.

We have had some questions come in regarding the canceling of otherwise harmless
posts, so this is the explanation for that. If one of your posts gets canceled
as a result of this policy, it doesn't mean you have engendered the wrath
of the site.

I don't quite get it. Privacy is a great value but a username is a username:
it's not like John B. Carrington but something like blackcat15. People use
usernames to hide their real name/identity.
I imagine it is rather impossible to infringe the privacy of blackcat15. Can
you elaborate on this?

According to the legal experts, a username is considered Personally Identifiable
Information (PII). Or at the very least, it frequently *can* be considered PII
so practically speaking it is usually treated as such.

In these cases I mention above, if the person has used their first and last names
followed by the year of their birth as a username, I would replace that username.
And when we replace it at the admin level, it does not retain the original username
in the change log.

"blackcat15" - if it were a spam account, I would leave it. It's hard to
justify spending any more time on that problem than we already have to.
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Dec 13, 2019 12:23
 Subject: Re: Terminated members and the Forum
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Administrative, Leftoverbricks writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  This is just a bit of information for the Forum regulars, especially those who
have switched their Forum settings to not hide canceled posts.

As online privacy concerns continue to be taken more seriously, we are starting
to develop policies and procedures for handling private information in a responsible
and transparent manner. This has nothing to do with the sale of the site, as
these policies have been under development (slowly) since the early part of 2019.

When a Forum user has their account terminated, now as a rule any thread or part
of a thread that they initiated will be canceled. Exceptions may be made for
information that is part of a critical forum discussion, or for catalog / inventory
data that may need to be preserved. Also, the username on the terminated account
may be replaced.

We have had some questions come in regarding the canceling of otherwise harmless
posts, so this is the explanation for that. If one of your posts gets canceled
as a result of this policy, it doesn't mean you have engendered the wrath
of the site.

I don't quite get it. Privacy is a great value but a username is a username:
it's not like John B. Carrington but something like blackcat15. People use
usernames to hide their real name/identity.
I imagine it is rather impossible to infringe the privacy of blackcat15. Can
you elaborate on this?

According to the legal experts, a username is considered Personally Identifiable
Information (PII). Or at the very least, it frequently *can* be considered PII
so practically speaking it is usually treated as such.

In these cases I mention above, if the person has used their first and last names
followed by the year of their birth as a username, I would replace that username.
And when we replace it at the admin level, it does not retain the original username
in the change log.

"blackcat15" - if it were a spam account, I would leave it. It's hard to
justify spending any more time on that problem than we already have to.

OK, if the legal experts say then it's clear. Thanks for the quick reply.
I hope you can get a workaround for posts made by no longer registered members
that are nevertheless important to save for the history. Good luck for that (and
no, I'm not cynical).