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 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
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Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.
 Author: DeLuca View Messages Posted By DeLuca
 Posted: Nov 28, 2019 22:30
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since the announcement was made.


A question that I have seen raised on other sites:
Since TLG has a restriction* on the sale of individual Minifigs and parts from
Licensed themes, as well as some in-house themes (such as Ninjago), will this
restriction be carried-over to Bricklink, or is the fact that TLG themselves**
would not be selling these items (only providing a platform for their sale by
non-TLG sellers) be sufficient to avoid violation of the terms of TLG's license
agreements?

To ask more simply, will BL Sellers still be allowed to sell Licensed pieces
and Minifigs, now that TLG owns Bricklink?



*Source: https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/help/bricks-building/buying-parts/why-cant-i-buy-licensed-parts-408100000007925

**Quote (Emphasis Mine): "Our licensing agreements. . . specify that we
can’t sell these “licensed” parts individually"
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
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In Administrative, DeLuca writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since the announcement was made.


A question that I have seen raised on other sites:
Since TLG has a restriction* on the sale of individual Minifigs and parts from
Licensed themes, as well as some in-house themes (such as Ninjago), will this
restriction be carried-over to Bricklink, or is the fact that TLG themselves**
would not be selling these items (only providing a platform for their sale by
non-TLG sellers) be sufficient to avoid violation of the terms of TLG's license
agreements?

To ask more simply, will BL Sellers still be allowed to sell Licensed pieces
and Minifigs, now that TLG owns Bricklink?



*Source: https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/help/bricks-building/buying-parts/why-cant-i-buy-licensed-parts-408100000007925

**Quote (Emphasis Mine): "Our licensing agreements. . . specify that we
can’t sell these “licensed” parts individually"

It’s a good question but I don’t believe that TLG will pose such restrictions
on sellers here because doing so will only drive traffic and sales away from
Bricklink to rival platforms.
This is a gray area as LEGO isn’t selling those licensed products on Bricklink-
individual sellers do it.
LEGO has much larger fish to fry on the licensing infringement arena like all
the knock-off brands that steal both LEGO and the license grantors intellectual
property.
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.

So far it’s very re-assuring.
I believe that a pressing question on sellers mind is:
Will the data gathered from Bricklink (addresses, IPs etc.) be used by LEGO to
prevent users from purchasing from LEGO stores or S@H or affect Sellers VIP access?

Thank you again for taking the time (specially on holiday) to address users concerns.
Your dedication and care to our community has always been terrific and I hope
you and your team will continue to be a significant part of the Bricklink branch
of LEGO.
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Thanks for the info Russell
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.


I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

tpr
 Author: Rob_and_Shelagh View Messages Posted By Rob_and_Shelagh
 Posted: Nov 29, 2019 03:17
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In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.


I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

tpr

LOL, yeah it's a bit like a government promising no tax rises... you'll
never get even a politician to say no tax rises ever, guaranteed though.

Why do you think they will? The exact same discussion happened last time the
site as sold and fees are still the same. I personally don't see what they
have to gain from that but if for example they demonstrated they were going to
do something with the site that would make fee increases worthwhile I guess I'd
be open minded. People do actually vote for politicians who raise taxes. Before
anyone says "no politics in the forum" that was not meant as a political statement
in any way, just a general, no political bias intended statement.

Robert
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In Administrative, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.


I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

tpr

LOL, yeah it's a bit like a government promising no tax rises... you'll
never get even a politician to say no tax rises ever, guaranteed though.

Why do you think they will? The exact same discussion happened last time the
site as sold and fees are still the same. I personally don't see what they
have to gain from that but if for example they demonstrated they were going to
do something with the site that would make fee increases worthwhile I guess I'd
be open minded. People do actually vote for politicians who raise taxes. Before
anyone says "no politics in the forum" that was not meant as a political statement
in any way, just a general, no political bias intended statement.

Robert

Hi

I don't think they will, its just the way its worded.

Same as Number 4 - Lego interested in strengthening...… If Lego really wanted
to, they would be passionate about it, not just interested....


Just my reading of the wording

Tracy
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In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.


I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

tpr

LOL, yeah it's a bit like a government promising no tax rises... you'll
never get even a politician to say no tax rises ever, guaranteed though.

Why do you think they will? The exact same discussion happened last time the
site as sold and fees are still the same. I personally don't see what they
have to gain from that but if for example they demonstrated they were going to
do something with the site that would make fee increases worthwhile I guess I'd
be open minded. People do actually vote for politicians who raise taxes. Before
anyone says "no politics in the forum" that was not meant as a political statement
in any way, just a general, no political bias intended statement.

Robert

Hi

I don't think they will, its just the way its worded.

Same as Number 4 - Lego interested in strengthening...… If Lego really wanted
to, they would be passionate about it, not just interested....


Just my reading of the wording

Tracy

Ah OK that's interesting especially re your point on number 4. Sometimes
I think more uncertainty is created by choice of wording (no political parallel
this time or we'll get the post cancelled ).

I hope they keep these updates coming though.

Robert
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In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.


I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

tpr

One think nobody mentioned here:
It is at the highest interest to keep Bricklinkers, i.e. buyers and sellers,
happy. If they increase fees, impose restrictions on sellers,... people would
then move to BO and then, they would fail at this competition against them.
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  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?
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In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?

So as I said in my next post it was regarding the grammar used.

AT THE MOMENT - they cant do anything as they don't own it

which means that anything could happen when they do. They haven't actually
said what they would do when they own it

I
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In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?

So as I said in my next post it was regarding the grammar used.

AT THE MOMENT - they cant do anything as they don't own it

which means that anything could happen when they do. They haven't actually
said what they would do when they own it

I

Which again brings me to the question why people suspect they will do
it, without any indication that supports the idea... except for fear.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1167239

The way I see it, it's another idea that belongs in the "LEGO bought Bricklink
to destroy it just because some people just want to see the world burn" bin
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?

So as I said in my next post it was regarding the grammar used.

AT THE MOMENT - they cant do anything as they don't own it

which means that anything could happen when they do. They haven't actually
said what they would do when they own it

I

Which again brings me to the question why people suspect they will do
it, without any indication that supports the idea... except for fear.


Whilst I personally share many of you views on this I don't think we should
be bashing fear (I'm not saying you are personally doing that but I do think
we should encourage all members to express their concerns).

The fear of loss of an income stream may be very real for many members here for
example.

Let LEGO see and hear that and see what responses emerge in the FAQs.

Robert
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In Administrative, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?

So as I said in my next post it was regarding the grammar used.

AT THE MOMENT - they cant do anything as they don't own it

which means that anything could happen when they do. They haven't actually
said what they would do when they own it

I

Which again brings me to the question why people suspect they will do
it, without any indication that supports the idea... except for fear.


Whilst I personally share many of you views on this I don't think we should
be bashing fear (I'm not saying you are personally doing that but I do think
we should encourage all members to express their concerns).

The fear of loss of an income stream may be very real for many members here for
example.

Let LEGO see and hear that and see what responses emerge in the FAQs.

Robert

For me, this acquisition falls under the “it’s too good to be true” category
which leads to “what’s the catch”. Time will tell. What about embargoes, licensed
parts, custom parts, updated terms and conditions, etc. It’s too soon to be optimistic
as a seller, but on the other hand, too soon to be negatives. Keep in mind, there
are many dangling participles in this deal that make sellers hopeful yet uncomfortable.
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In Administrative, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?

So as I said in my next post it was regarding the grammar used.

AT THE MOMENT - they cant do anything as they don't own it

which means that anything could happen when they do. They haven't actually
said what they would do when they own it

I

Which again brings me to the question why people suspect they will do
it, without any indication that supports the idea... except for fear.


Whilst I personally share many of you views on this I don't think we should
be bashing fear (I'm not saying you are personally doing that but I do think
we should encourage all members to express their concerns).

The fear of loss of an income stream may be very real for many members here for
example.

Let LEGO see and hear that and see what responses emerge in the FAQs.

Robert

Fair enough, I didn't really mean to bash anyone. I guess it's just that
I don't like to see too much negative attitude. While I don't really
expect something will happen to the fees, in general I feel like if we're
welcoming LEGO in with a "ugh they're gonna treat us horribly" vibe, there's
less incentive for a good cooperation. I feel like if we are already expecting
the worst, and LEGO hasn't decided anything yet, they could as well go with
the worst. But yes, the fear is understandable for sure - for now I also depend
on Bricklink for my income.
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In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?

So as I said in my next post it was regarding the grammar used.

AT THE MOMENT - they cant do anything as they don't own it

which means that anything could happen when they do. They haven't actually
said what they would do when they own it

I

Which again brings me to the question why people suspect they will do
it, without any indication that supports the idea... except for fear.


Whilst I personally share many of you views on this I don't think we should
be bashing fear (I'm not saying you are personally doing that but I do think
we should encourage all members to express their concerns).

The fear of loss of an income stream may be very real for many members here for
example.

Let LEGO see and hear that and see what responses emerge in the FAQs.

Robert

Fair enough, I didn't really mean to bash anyone. I guess it's just that
I don't like to see too much negative attitude. While I don't really
expect something will happen to the fees, in general I feel like if we're
welcoming LEGO in with a "ugh they're gonna treat us horribly" vibe, there's
less incentive for a good cooperation. I feel like if we are already expecting
the worst, and LEGO hasn't decided anything yet, they could as well go with
the worst. But yes, the fear is understandable for sure - for now I also depend
on Bricklink for my income.


I'm completely with you on that and again, no intent to bash you. Your mentioning
of fear of the unknown struck a note with me and I just felt everyone should
be encouraged to contribute their thoughts even if their point was already mentioned
by others. Separately I feel a bit disappointed too that there is so much negativity
given that we are all here (I think) because we love LEGO (the product) and should
be encouraged that the company want us on board. I'm really hopeful of an
exciting cooperation.

Robert
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In Administrative, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
  In Administrative, Teup writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
  In Administrative, tpr writes:
  […]
I like No. 5

No plans to increase fees "AT THE MOMENT".

Which means they cant as they don't own it, but they will when they do

So, if you buy a house, and someone asks you if you plan to change the roof,
and you answer “Not at the moment,” it actually means you have an evil plan to
change the roof?

So as I said in my next post it was regarding the grammar used.

AT THE MOMENT - they cant do anything as they don't own it

which means that anything could happen when they do. They haven't actually
said what they would do when they own it

I

Which again brings me to the question why people suspect they will do
it, without any indication that supports the idea... except for fear.


Whilst I personally share many of you views on this I don't think we should
be bashing fear (I'm not saying you are personally doing that but I do think
we should encourage all members to express their concerns).

The fear of loss of an income stream may be very real for many members here for
example.

Let LEGO see and hear that and see what responses emerge in the FAQs.

Robert

Fair enough, I didn't really mean to bash anyone. I guess it's just that
I don't like to see too much negative attitude. While I don't really
expect something will happen to the fees, in general I feel like if we're
welcoming LEGO in with a "ugh they're gonna treat us horribly" vibe, there's
less incentive for a good cooperation. I feel like if we are already expecting
the worst, and LEGO hasn't decided anything yet, they could as well go with
the worst. But yes, the fear is understandable for sure - for now I also depend
on Bricklink for my income.


I'm completely with you on that and again, no intent to bash you. Your mentioning
of fear of the unknown struck a note with me and I just felt everyone should
be encouraged to contribute their thoughts even if their point was already mentioned
by others. Separately I feel a bit disappointed too that there is so much negativity
given that we are all here (I think) because we love LEGO (the product) and should
be encouraged that the company want us on board. I'm really hopeful of an
exciting cooperation.

Robert

I don't think I've contributed a non-skeptical opinion of the deal yet,
but I really do think this will work out for the best. It should improve things
for buyers and sellers overall (at least if I had anything to say about it, it
would). There, optimism engaged. it's a slow start, but you have begin somewhere,
right?
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  I'm completely with you on that and again, no intent to bash you. Your mentioning
of fear of the unknown struck a note with me and I just felt everyone should
be encouraged to contribute their thoughts even if their point was already mentioned
by others. Separately I feel a bit disappointed too that there is so much negativity
given that we are all here (I think) because we love LEGO (the product) and should
be encouraged that the company want us on board. I'm really hopeful of an
exciting cooperation.

I guess the negativity comes form the way LEGO (the company) has treated people
in the past. Yes the customer service is somewhere between average and excellent,
depending on who you get. But recent things that have happened:

Black Card VIPs - not exactly great offers (all year round!)

New VIP scheme - no improvement at all, and mainly pathetic offers online, now
have to cash in online and cannot do it at the tills instore

New Batmobile plus free gift today - site crashed at launch, main set OOS (on
backorder), stocks of freebie were gone by about 9am online.

And of course, this is a reseller site. And LEGO have actively banned resellers
in the past.
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Will bricklink remain a separate company?

For me, a lot of the worry is over sharing of data with the parent company. Personally,
I think a fan community is better served by being independent of the company,
and does not have all its data available for mining by the company.

Will there be an opt in / opt out for the sharing of data between Bricklink and
the parent company?

So, for example, name and address data is only needed for operational reasons
at BL and there is no reason to share this with the LEGO parent company.

Similarly, will we be able to opt out of having information such as contents
of wants lists shared with the LEGO group? Same for non-public information such
as any items in stockrooms, will this data be shared with LEGO?
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  Will bricklink remain a separate company?

For me, a lot of the worry is over sharing of data with the parent company. Personally,
I think a fan community is better served by being independent of the company,
and does not have all its data available for mining by the company.

Will there be an opt in / opt out for the sharing of data between Bricklink and
the parent company?

So, for example, name and address data is only needed for operational reasons
at BL and there is no reason to share this with the LEGO parent company.

Similarly, will we be able to opt out of having information such as contents
of wants lists shared with the LEGO group? Same for non-public information such
as any items in stockrooms, will this data be shared with LEGO?

I would have thought the data, and the use that can be made of it towards the
production and sales of new sets it the main reason for the acquisition.

Lego have stated that Bricklink will remain US based, so looks like will be a
separate company for the time being.
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In Administrative, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  Will bricklink remain a separate company?

For me, a lot of the worry is over sharing of data with the parent company. Personally,
I think a fan community is better served by being independent of the company,
and does not have all its data available for mining by the company.

Will there be an opt in / opt out for the sharing of data between Bricklink and
the parent company?

So, for example, name and address data is only needed for operational reasons
at BL and there is no reason to share this with the LEGO parent company.

Similarly, will we be able to opt out of having information such as contents
of wants lists shared with the LEGO group? Same for non-public information such
as any items in stockrooms, will this data be shared with LEGO?

I would have thought the data, and the use that can be made of it towards the
production and sales of new sets it the main reason for the acquisition.

Lego have stated that Bricklink will remain US based, so looks like will be a
separate company for the time being.

Just because it is in America doesn't mean it wont be absorbed into the Lego
Company.

The Lego Company have factories all over the world, and they still come under
its HQ regime

Hopefully it will be allowed to stand alone but....
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  I would have thought the data, and the use that can be made of it towards the
production and sales of new sets it the main reason for the acquisition.

Lego have stated that Bricklink will remain US based, so looks like will be a
separate company for the time being.

Presumably, if BL remains a separate company but owned by a large European corporation,
then they might reference GDPR in their terms and formally state what personal
data is collected and used for.

I expect the terms pages will need significant updating once LEGO takes over.
The LEGO privacy page is somewhat longer than BL's is currently. If they
start to mine personal data, I think they have to tell us what they are going
to analyse and why.
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  
  I would have thought the data, and the use that can be made of it towards the
production and sales of new sets it the main reason for the acquisition.

Lego have stated that Bricklink will remain US based, so looks like will be a
separate company for the time being.

Presumably, if BL remains a separate company but owned by a large European corporation,
then they might reference GDPR in their terms and formally state what personal
data is collected and used for.

I expect the terms pages will need significant updating once LEGO takes over.
The LEGO privacy page is somewhat longer than BL's is currently. If they
start to mine personal data, I think they have to tell us what they are going
to analyse and why.

Currently, all of the companies in the Lego Group share the same privacy policy,
which can be found here: https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/notices-and-policies/privacy-policy

I would expect that once BL becomes one of those companies in the Lego Group,
this will be the policy.
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In Administrative, 62Bricks writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  
  I would have thought the data, and the use that can be made of it towards the
production and sales of new sets it the main reason for the acquisition.

Lego have stated that Bricklink will remain US based, so looks like will be a
separate company for the time being.

Presumably, if BL remains a separate company but owned by a large European corporation,
then they might reference GDPR in their terms and formally state what personal
data is collected and used for.

I expect the terms pages will need significant updating once LEGO takes over.
The LEGO privacy page is somewhat longer than BL's is currently. If they
start to mine personal data, I think they have to tell us what they are going
to analyse and why.

Currently, all of the companies in the Lego Group share the same privacy policy,
which can be found here: https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/notices-and-policies/privacy-policy

I would expect that once BL becomes one of those companies in the Lego Group,
this will be the policy.

I would point out that currently one of the reasons TLG says it may share personal
information between companies is to "Identify, review and stop any activities
that could breach our policies or break the law."

So the answer to the questions that has been asked elsewhere seems to be that
Lego could use information from BL to enforce its policies regarding resellers,
which currently appear to be that it bans people it suspects are purchasing for
resale.
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  I would point out that currently one of the reasons TLG says it may share personal
information between companies is to "Identify, review and stop any activities
that could breach our policies or break the law."

So the answer to the questions that has been asked elsewhere seems to be that
Lego could use information from BL to enforce its policies regarding resellers,
which currently appear to be that it bans people it suspects are purchasing for
resale.

Yeah, I guess one extreme is that they go through all BL seller data and see
if you sell new parts or sets and if you do then your LEGO account is blocked
as a reseller. I guess slightly less extreme is if they match up sets purchased
from them within 6 month or 1 year to your BL account and declare you to be a
reseller.

However, it would be nice to know how they define a reseller, so resellers can
act within their rules. So for example, if a seller gets a free gift during a
promo and sells it - does that flag them for being a reseller. Or can resellers
buy stuff for personal use on S@H but still sell the same sets here if they were
purchased elsewhere (and the seller can prove it via receipts).

Occasionally, I have bought a set on S@H for myself. Then later on bought in
quantity when they are cheaper elsewhere then sold those on. I don't see
that as purchasing from LEGO for reselling, but they might.

Same with CMF boxes - do they really believe anyone buying a complete box from
them is doing it only for personal reasons? No doubt most of the spares sold
that way get sold on somehow.

I'd hope there is some common sense used when identifying - and banning -
resellers. I can understand if someone is using multiple accounts to purchase
beyond any imposed limits, or is buying up in-demand current sets for quick flips.
But buying up soon to be retired old stock that is discounted for example, less
of a problem.
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  Currently, all of the companies in the Lego Group share the same privacy policy,
which can be found here: https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/notices-and-policies/privacy-policy

I would expect that once BL becomes one of those companies in the Lego Group,
this will be the policy.

Yes, that is mainly for personal / privacy type data. Presumably there will also
be an update along the lines of the terms of the IDEAS website (where you assign
the rights to the content uploaded to LEGO), giving LEGO the ability to use our
non-personal data (such as wanted lists contents, store inventory levels, and
so on) for lots of different purposes too.
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In Administrative, Admin_Russell writes:
  Dear BrickLink members,

We've added several new FAQs based on the responses we have received since
the announcement was made. You can see the updated list here:

https://www.bricklink.com/r3/announcement/lego_bl_faq.page

These newest FAQs are also copied below:

****************************************************

4. What changes does the LEGO Group have in store for the platform?

BrickLink was acquired by the LEGO Group because they are interested in strengthening
the connection with the AFOL community and finding new ways of doing this through
improvements to existing functions on the platform.

What exactly those improvements will be will become clearer once that deal has
been finalized. However, the LEGO Group are keen to make sure that the platform
develops in collaboration with the community – they’ve acknowledged that BrickLink
already serves its users very well and they aren’t planning to make changes straight
away.

5. Will transaction fees increase going forward?

There are no plans to increase transaction fees at the moment.

6. Will anything change for sellers from BrickLink?

The LEGO Group has been clear that it won’t interfere with how sellers operate
or the healthy competition that exists in the marketplace. They see BrickLink
as a complementary service to their own parts selling services.

7. What about Studio and LEGO Digital Designer – what will happen with the
two digital building experiences since they’re quite similar?


The LEGO Group is planning to support and evolve Studio and will review opportunities
for both services following the closing of the deal.

In other words, no new info whatsoever, but just the info that we already had
has now been put in the FAQ That's ok though, hopefully it will reduce
the panic levels of some.