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 Author: Admin View Messages Posted By Admin
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 Subject: A Message from the LEGO Group
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I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.

As many of you who follow the LEGO Group may know, we don’t traditionally make acquisitions. Over the years, we’ve grown the business organically, focussing on our core and working to reach more kids with LEGO® play.

But BrickLink is different. It has a special connection with the AFOL community and the opportunity was too good to miss. Why?

You’re important to us. BrickLink is one of the largest, independent communities of LEGO enthusiasts in the world. Our adult fans are incredibly important to us and we are serious about creating more great experiences together.

We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.

Thank you BrickLink team

I want to recognise everything Jay, Marvin, Russell and the BrickLink team has done over the past six years to make BrickLink what it is today. They have taken Dan’s incredible vision to the next level while staying true to his purpose of bringing fans together. BrickLink wouldn’t exist without Dan, and we can assure you, we will keep his original mission close to our hearts. I would also like to thank Eliska Jezkova for her support and we are pleased to announce that she will continue to be involved as a BrickLink Goodwill Ambassador.

BrickLink also wouldn’t exist without you – the loyal, dedicated, entrepreneurial and incredibly creative members, sellers and fans. Thank you for the support you’ve shown to BrickLink. We will do our best to honour your interests and passions.

We look forward to welcoming the BrickLink team to the LEGO Group and continuing to work to make the best possible platform and experience for you.

To help us do that, we want to hear your views. During the coming weeks, the team will host an AMA to help us understand more about what you want out of BrickLink. Stay tuned for details.

I am excited about the future and I look forward to building the next phase for BrickLink, together.

Niels

tldr: The LEGO Group can’t wait to collaborate more closely with the awesome BrickLink community!


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 Author: JerseyBrickGuy View Messages Posted By JerseyBrickGuy
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Lets hope that bricklink is allowed to keep it's independence.

In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.

As many of you who follow the LEGO Group may know, we don’t traditionally make acquisitions. Over the years, we’ve grown the business organically, focussing on our core and working to reach more kids with LEGO® play.

But BrickLink is different. It has a special connection with the AFOL community and the opportunity was too good to miss. Why?

You’re important to us. BrickLink is one of the largest, independent communities of LEGO enthusiasts in the world. Our adult fans are incredibly important to us and we are serious about creating more great experiences together.

We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.

Thank you BrickLink team

I want to recognise everything Jay, Marvin, Russell and the BrickLink team has done over the past six years to make BrickLink what it is today. They have taken Dan’s incredible vision to the next level while staying true to his purpose of bringing fans together. BrickLink wouldn’t exist without Dan, and we can assure you, we will keep his original mission close to our hearts. I would also like to thank Eliska Jezkova for her support and we are pleased to announce that she will continue to be involved as a BrickLink Goodwill Ambassador.

BrickLink also wouldn’t exist without you – the loyal, dedicated, entrepreneurial and incredibly creative members, sellers and fans. Thank you for the support you’ve shown to BrickLink. We will do our best to honour your interests and passions.

We look forward to welcoming the BrickLink team to the LEGO Group and continuing to work to make the best possible platform and experience for you.

To help us do that, we want to hear your views. During the coming weeks, the team will host an AMA to help us understand more about what you want out of BrickLink. Stay tuned for details.

I am excited about the future and I look forward to building the next phase for BrickLink, together.

Niels

tldr: The LEGO Group can’t wait to collaborate more closely with the awesome BrickLink community!


 Author: DeLuca View Messages Posted By DeLuca
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In Administrative, JerseyBrickGuy writes:
  Lets hope that bricklink is allowed to keep it's independence.


I am curious to see what TLG does with the Bricklink brand. Disney is another
company that is fiercely protective of its family-friendly reputation, but they
have utilised other brands (such as Touchstone Pictures, or the Hulu/Disney+
split) to market more adult-oriented content. While TLG might simply absorb BL's
functionality into their existing infrastructure, they could also use the brand
to sell more AFOL-targeted sets, parts, etc.
 Author: romax1989 View Messages Posted By romax1989
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.

As many of you who follow the LEGO Group may know, we don’t traditionally make acquisitions. Over the years, we’ve grown the business organically, focussing on our core and working to reach more kids with LEGO® play.

But BrickLink is different. It has a special connection with the AFOL community and the opportunity was too good to miss. Why?

You’re important to us. BrickLink is one of the largest, independent communities of LEGO enthusiasts in the world. Our adult fans are incredibly important to us and we are serious about creating more great experiences together.

We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.

Thank you BrickLink team

I want to recognise everything Jay, Marvin, Russell and the BrickLink team has done over the past six years to make BrickLink what it is today. They have taken Dan’s incredible vision to the next level while staying true to his purpose of bringing fans together. BrickLink wouldn’t exist without Dan, and we can assure you, we will keep his original mission close to our hearts. I would also like to thank Eliska Jezkova for her support and we are pleased to announce that she will continue to be involved as a BrickLink Goodwill Ambassador.

BrickLink also wouldn’t exist without you – the loyal, dedicated, entrepreneurial and incredibly creative members, sellers and fans. Thank you for the support you’ve shown to BrickLink. We will do our best to honour your interests and passions.

We look forward to welcoming the BrickLink team to the LEGO Group and continuing to work to make the best possible platform and experience for you.

To help us do that, we want to hear your views. During the coming weeks, the team will host an AMA to help us understand more about what you want out of BrickLink. Stay tuned for details.

I am excited about the future and I look forward to building the next phase for BrickLink, together.

Niels

tldr: The LEGO Group can’t wait to collaborate more closely with the awesome BrickLink community!




Can we get assurances that bricks and pieces will in no way be integrated into
the bricklink website and affect the economy and value of parts?
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Nov 26, 2019 11:56
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There is no negotiation going on here.

In General, romax1989 writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.

As many of you who follow the LEGO Group may know, we don’t traditionally make acquisitions. Over the years, we’ve grown the business organically, focussing on our core and working to reach more kids with LEGO® play.

But BrickLink is different. It has a special connection with the AFOL community and the opportunity was too good to miss. Why?

You’re important to us. BrickLink is one of the largest, independent communities of LEGO enthusiasts in the world. Our adult fans are incredibly important to us and we are serious about creating more great experiences together.

We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.

Thank you BrickLink team

I want to recognise everything Jay, Marvin, Russell and the BrickLink team has done over the past six years to make BrickLink what it is today. They have taken Dan’s incredible vision to the next level while staying true to his purpose of bringing fans together. BrickLink wouldn’t exist without Dan, and we can assure you, we will keep his original mission close to our hearts. I would also like to thank Eliska Jezkova for her support and we are pleased to announce that she will continue to be involved as a BrickLink Goodwill Ambassador.

BrickLink also wouldn’t exist without you – the loyal, dedicated, entrepreneurial and incredibly creative members, sellers and fans. Thank you for the support you’ve shown to BrickLink. We will do our best to honour your interests and passions.

We look forward to welcoming the BrickLink team to the LEGO Group and continuing to work to make the best possible platform and experience for you.

To help us do that, we want to hear your views. During the coming weeks, the team will host an AMA to help us understand more about what you want out of BrickLink. Stay tuned for details.

I am excited about the future and I look forward to building the next phase for BrickLink, together.

Niels

tldr: The LEGO Group can’t wait to collaborate more closely with the awesome BrickLink community!




Can we get assurances that bricks and pieces will in no way be integrated into
the bricklink website and affect the economy and value of parts?
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 Posted: Nov 26, 2019 12:09
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In General, romax1989 writes:
  

Can we get assurances that bricks and pieces will in no way be integrated into
the bricklink website and affect the economy and value of parts?

No.
The good news is that all the moaning will disappear.
I hope no one believes that Lego will listen to their daily complaints and genial
ideas of how to run this business.
Welcome to the real world to all windows 95 users.
Regards
Nectara

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Congratulations Bricklink
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In General, nectara writes:
  In General, romax1989 writes:
  

Can we get assurances that bricks and pieces will in no way be integrated into
the bricklink website and affect the economy and value of parts?

No.
The good news is that all the moaning will disappear.
I hope no one believes that Lego will listen to their daily complaints and genial
ideas of how to run this business.
Welcome to the real world to all windows 95 users.
Regards
Nectara

P.S.
Congratulations Bricklink


ROFL. I love it.
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 Author: Cirrusbreeze View Messages Posted By Cirrusbreeze
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I’m very excited by the news.

One thing that drew me to Bricklink was the chance to buy sets that I missed
out on as a kid, including parts and sets that were only sold in some countries.

LEGO heritage as an element of design and play is something that you could only
achieve through BL and a fee other platforms. The Studio system which partially
allows you to design using parts that are no longer available new is also an
exciting frontier that I hope will be improved upon.

This is something I always thought might happen eventually and it seems like
a logical evolution for LEGO, reconnecting with its roots and recognising that
its history and future is now inter generational.

I wonder if there is the chance that LEGO will itself become a seller of AFOL
only special parts like 12v and 9v train track, and bring back some of the more
interesting architectural parts from years gone by.

Sceptics will say no, but I’m putting it out there into the universe anyway.

One thing that seems certain now is that Bricklink will never disappear.
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Considering the cost involved in making new molds (either totally new parts
or old retired parts) and the number of parts they need to produce to cover those
costs, I can't see LEGO bringing back old parts (even more so for things
like monorail or 9V train that have even higher production costs per part than
a regular part that's just plastic)
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In Administrative, jonwil writes:
  Considering the cost involved in making new molds (either totally new parts
or old retired parts) and the number of parts they need to produce to cover those
costs, I can't see LEGO bringing back old parts (even more so for things
like monorail or 9V train that have even higher production costs per part than
a regular part that's just plastic)

I agree. Why would they bring back vintage parts then not sell them in normal
retail sets. If there is no reason to do it for retail sets, then AFOLs can forget
niche parts being made.
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, jonwil writes:
  Considering the cost involved in making new molds (either totally new parts
or old retired parts) and the number of parts they need to produce to cover those
costs, I can't see LEGO bringing back old parts (even more so for things
like monorail or 9V train that have even higher production costs per part than
a regular part that's just plastic)

I agree. Why would they bring back vintage parts then not sell them in normal
retail sets. If there is no reason to do it for retail sets, then AFOLs can forget
niche parts being made.

btw
 
Part No: 3039p05  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
* 
3039p05 Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
return after 16 years in three sets this year.
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In Administrative, Hygrotus writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, jonwil writes:
  Considering the cost involved in making new molds (either totally new parts
or old retired parts) and the number of parts they need to produce to cover those
costs, I can't see LEGO bringing back old parts (even more so for things
like monorail or 9V train that have even higher production costs per part than
a regular part that's just plastic)

I agree. Why would they bring back vintage parts then not sell them in normal
retail sets. If there is no reason to do it for retail sets, then AFOLs can forget
niche parts being made.

btw
 
Part No: 3039p05  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
* 
3039p05 Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
return after 16 years in three sets this year.

Yes, that is just a print though so relatively cheap compared to redoing vintage
parts / molds.
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In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, Hygrotus writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, jonwil writes:
  Considering the cost involved in making new molds (either totally new parts
or old retired parts) and the number of parts they need to produce to cover those
costs, I can't see LEGO bringing back old parts (even more so for things
like monorail or 9V train that have even higher production costs per part than
a regular part that's just plastic)

I agree. Why would they bring back vintage parts then not sell them in normal
retail sets. If there is no reason to do it for retail sets, then AFOLs can forget
niche parts being made.

btw
 
Part No: 3039p05  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
* 
3039p05 Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
return after 16 years in three sets this year.

Yes, that is just a print though so relatively cheap compared to redoing vintage
parts / molds.

It is my great wish and hope that they leave the vintage market alone.


If they want to re-release parts, I just pray we can tell them apart from
the originals.



I think there will always be a market for original rare parts, too many collectors
care.


Not that I think they were venture into that, at all. Just rambling
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I don't think for one minute that this will happen.

If it did then the mould markings underneath should help, generally modern day
markings are quite different to the early ones, in my experience.

Certainly the case when you look at most of the bricks in the catalogue with
the part number followed by old.






In Administrative, Adjour writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, Hygrotus writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, jonwil writes:
  Considering the cost involved in making new molds (either totally new parts
or old retired parts) and the number of parts they need to produce to cover those
costs, I can't see LEGO bringing back old parts (even more so for things
like monorail or 9V train that have even higher production costs per part than
a regular part that's just plastic)

I agree. Why would they bring back vintage parts then not sell them in normal
retail sets. If there is no reason to do it for retail sets, then AFOLs can forget
niche parts being made.

btw
 
Part No: 3039p05  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
* 
3039p05 Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
return after 16 years in three sets this year.

Yes, that is just a print though so relatively cheap compared to redoing vintage
parts / molds.

It is my great wish and hope that they leave the vintage market alone.


If they want to re-release parts, I just pray we can tell them apart from
the originals.



I think there will always be a market for original rare parts, too many collectors
care.


Not that I think they were venture into that, at all. Just rambling
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In Administrative, Stuart9 writes:
  I don't think for one minute that this will happen.

[...]

Me neither. And them buying Bricklink is unrelated to all of this, they could've
done this at any point and never did. The only way them owning Bricklink could
have some effect in this area, is if in the long term it causes them to finally
start really learning about the AFOL mindset.

For example, if they'll finally understand the atrocity of putting a modern
helmet on a classic space fig and that I still haven't forgiven them for
releasing a green classic space fig without a classic helmet. They made an attempt
with Benny's squad but it still doesn't quite have the magic of the original
moulds...

From everything AFOL related and retro referenced they release, it seems clear
they never really want to resurrect the olden days too literally.


  





In Administrative, Adjour writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, Hygrotus writes:
  In Administrative, yorbrick writes:
  In Administrative, jonwil writes:
  Considering the cost involved in making new molds (either totally new parts
or old retired parts) and the number of parts they need to produce to cover those
costs, I can't see LEGO bringing back old parts (even more so for things
like monorail or 9V train that have even higher production costs per part than
a regular part that's just plastic)

I agree. Why would they bring back vintage parts then not sell them in normal
retail sets. If there is no reason to do it for retail sets, then AFOLs can forget
niche parts being made.

btw
 
Part No: 3039p05  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
* 
3039p05 Slope 45 2 x 2 with Black Grille Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated
return after 16 years in three sets this year.

Yes, that is just a print though so relatively cheap compared to redoing vintage
parts / molds.

It is my great wish and hope that they leave the vintage market alone.


If they want to re-release parts, I just pray we can tell them apart from
the originals.



I think there will always be a market for original rare parts, too many collectors
care.


Not that I think they were venture into that, at all. Just rambling
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
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Don't get me wrong, I don't think its going to happen either. But I've
been seeing it brought up a TON as a "suggestion" both from people who are afraid
of it or don't want it (myself included), and newer LEGO fans that want it
to happen, that don't seem to understand what they are asking for.


In the youtube and instagram comments, there are TONS of younger, but adult,
users asking for the re release of vintage parts, and its obvious that LEGO is
trying to listen to their buyers....so I don't think its 100% off the
table.
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Agreed.


No, I'm sure myself and many others could tell. But imagine trying to BUY
that part and get an original...lol. It would be like trying to order thin clips,
but worse!


This is all just speculation, of course, I'm not really that concerned.
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  If it did then the mould markings underneath should help, generally modern day
markings are quite different to the early ones, in my experience.

We'd all know there is a difference once the descriptions of "line spacing
of 1.10 mm" and "line spacing of 1.15 mm" appear in the BL titles of the old
and new parts.
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As a long time denizen of this community, I am genuinely interested to see what
Mr Christiansen and his team have in mind with the acquisition of BrickLink.
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/I want to recognise everything Jay, Marvin, Russell and the BrickLink team
has done over the past six years to make BrickLink what it is today. They have
taken Dan’s incredible vision to the next level while staying true to his purpose
of bringing fans together. BrickLink wouldn’t exist without Dan, and we can
assure you, we will keep his original mission close to our hearts. I would also
like to thank Eliska Jezkova for her support and we are pleased to announce that
she will continue to be involved as a BrickLink Goodwill Ambassador.

Wait, does this mean the old staff goes? I didn't thing about that. It doesn't
seem like it will help anything, but I guess there isn't really another way.
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.



HMMMmmmmm.

A while ago when I started selling here on Bricklink. one of the things I did
was buy directly from the TLG's website when they had discounted Lego for
the purposes of parting out to sell on here. Turns out I was doing too much
of that and TLG flagged me as a "reseller" and thus blacklisted me from ever
buying directly from their main website ever again. It was a crushingly sad
moment...

Sooo, this is kind of an awkward moment for me in one sense. Will they carry
that blacklist over to here now that they will own this market as well, or will
they lift it all together? I am a little nervous.
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In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.



HMMMmmmmm.

A while ago when I started selling here on Bricklink. one of the things I did
was buy directly from the TLG's website when they had discounted Lego for
the purposes of parting out to sell on here. Turns out I was doing too much
of that and TLG flagged me as a "reseller" and thus blacklisted me from ever
buying directly from their main website ever again. It was a crushingly sad
moment...

Sooo, this is kind of an awkward moment for me in one sense. Will they carry
that blacklist over to here now that they will own this market as well, or will
they lift it all together? I am a little nervous.


I doubt that being a "Reseller" will be a problem, going forward. To resell,
you need to pay TLG to acquire a set, then pay TLG again to sell it (or
pay repeatedly, if you choose to part it out). I fail to see any downside to
this, from LEGO's perspective.
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For anyone who thinks that good things are going to come out of Lego acquiring
Bricklink, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I will sell you.


In Selling, DeLuca writes:
  In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.



HMMMmmmmm.

A while ago when I started selling here on Bricklink. one of the things I did
was buy directly from the TLG's website when they had discounted Lego for
the purposes of parting out to sell on here. Turns out I was doing too much
of that and TLG flagged me as a "reseller" and thus blacklisted me from ever
buying directly from their main website ever again. It was a crushingly sad
moment...

Sooo, this is kind of an awkward moment for me in one sense. Will they carry
that blacklist over to here now that they will own this market as well, or will
they lift it all together? I am a little nervous.


I doubt that being a "Reseller" will be a problem, going forward. To resell,
you need to pay TLG to acquire a set, then pay TLG again to sell it (or
pay repeatedly, if you choose to part it out). I fail to see any downside to
this, from LEGO's perspective.
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In Selling, gcarter03 writes:
  For anyone who thinks that good things are going to come out of Lego acquiring
Bricklink, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I will sell you.


I meant that it is unlikely that LEGO will oppose reselling now, since they can
profit off of both the sale and resale of any given item.


  In Selling, DeLuca writes:
  In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.



HMMMmmmmm.

A while ago when I started selling here on Bricklink. one of the things I did
was buy directly from the TLG's website when they had discounted Lego for
the purposes of parting out to sell on here. Turns out I was doing too much
of that and TLG flagged me as a "reseller" and thus blacklisted me from ever
buying directly from their main website ever again. It was a crushingly sad
moment...

Sooo, this is kind of an awkward moment for me in one sense. Will they carry
that blacklist over to here now that they will own this market as well, or will
they lift it all together? I am a little nervous.


I doubt that being a "Reseller" will be a problem, going forward. To resell,
you need to pay TLG to acquire a set, then pay TLG again to sell it (or
pay repeatedly, if you choose to part it out). I fail to see any downside to
this, from LEGO's perspective.
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  I doubt that being a "Reseller" will be a problem, going forward. To resell,
you need to pay TLG to acquire a set, then pay TLG again to sell it (or
pay repeatedly, if you choose to part it out). I fail to see any downside to
this, from LEGO's perspective.

LEGO still use phrasing such as this in the terms and conditions when ordering
from them (this is for B+P):

Retailers/entrepreneurs
These conditions only apply to consumers and not to retailers or entrepreneurs.
We define retailers or entrepreneurs as those who place orders for products which
aren’t intended for personal use. In these circumstances, we can cancel the order
without being liable in any way.


They will also have your name and address when you are their customer (unless
you only buy in-store without using VIP), and they will have your name and address
as a reseller. It will be easy for them to link known resellers on their platform
to customers accounts on their other platform. Presumably at some stage there
will need to be an agreement update when LEGO take over BL, and this will need
careful reading.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  I doubt that being a "Reseller" will be a problem, going forward. To resell,
you need to pay TLG to acquire a set, then pay TLG again to sell it (or
pay repeatedly, if you choose to part it out). I fail to see any downside to
this, from LEGO's perspective.

LEGO still use phrasing such as this in the terms and conditions when ordering
from them (this is for B+P):

Retailers/entrepreneurs
These conditions only apply to consumers and not to retailers or entrepreneurs.
We define retailers or entrepreneurs as those who place orders for products which
aren’t intended for personal use. In these circumstances, we can cancel the order
without being liable in any way.


They will also have your name and address when you are their customer (unless
you only buy in-store without using VIP), and they will have your name and address
as a reseller. It will be easy for them to link known resellers on their platform
to customers accounts on their other platform. Presumably at some stage there
will need to be an agreement update when LEGO take over BL, and this will need
careful reading.

My guess is that that whole clause will be obsolete. It stems from the situation
that the aftermarket is some place else than the official outlet - it won't
be that way anymore in the future. Either they will offer what they can offer
through Bricklink (or link to it from Bricklink) or they will reduce/stop selling
parts altogether.
In any case, when the services LEGO offers are directly adjacent to the services
that we offer, it doesn't make sense anymore to buy from LEGO and sell it
on Bricklink for a higher price, right next to the source.

If I were LEGO I would stop putting energy in trying to control the market and
simply through supply&demand put anyone out of business who offers exactly what
I offer but at a higher price (sets and the few pieces that LEGO can offer).
I think overlap naturally disappears that way.

Unless of course we sellers manage to completely buy everything LEGO offers out
of stock and offer it at a higher price... like concert ticket scam..
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In Selling, Teup writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  I doubt that being a "Reseller" will be a problem, going forward. To resell,
you need to pay TLG to acquire a set, then pay TLG again to sell it (or
pay repeatedly, if you choose to part it out). I fail to see any downside to
this, from LEGO's perspective.

LEGO still use phrasing such as this in the terms and conditions when ordering
from them (this is for B+P):

Retailers/entrepreneurs
These conditions only apply to consumers and not to retailers or entrepreneurs.
We define retailers or entrepreneurs as those who place orders for products which
aren’t intended for personal use. In these circumstances, we can cancel the order
without being liable in any way.


They will also have your name and address when you are their customer (unless
you only buy in-store without using VIP), and they will have your name and address
as a reseller. It will be easy for them to link known resellers on their platform
to customers accounts on their other platform. Presumably at some stage there
will need to be an agreement update when LEGO take over BL, and this will need
careful reading.

My guess is that that whole clause will be obsolete. It stems from the situation
that the aftermarket is some place else than the official outlet - it won't
be that way anymore in the future. Either they will offer what they can offer
through Bricklink (or link to it from Bricklink) or they will reduce/stop selling
parts altogether.
In any case, when the services LEGO offers are directly adjacent to the services
that we offer, it doesn't make sense anymore to buy from LEGO and sell it
on Bricklink for a higher price, right next to the source.

If I were LEGO I would stop putting energy in trying to control the market and
simply through supply&demand put anyone out of business who offers exactly what
I offer but at a higher price (sets and the few pieces that LEGO can offer).
I think overlap naturally disappears that way.

Unless of course we sellers manage to completely buy everything LEGO offers out
of stock and offer it at a higher price... like concert ticket scam..

Yeah, I think there are two parts here: control of parts and prices, and the
user data. If they decide to flood the market with what were expensive parts
to make them cheap, then I have no issue with that, they can already do it if
they want. If they want to make their own parts expensive through B+P to stop
resale, they can also do that. That bit seems fine.

It will surely be interesting what they now do with the user data. They already
know their customer details and they will soon know BL reseller details. And
they can ban anyone they think is reselling from buying from them directly, whether
it is for personal use or resale. That bit seems more worrying.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Teup writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  I doubt that being a "Reseller" will be a problem, going forward. To resell,
you need to pay TLG to acquire a set, then pay TLG again to sell it (or
pay repeatedly, if you choose to part it out). I fail to see any downside to
this, from LEGO's perspective.

LEGO still use phrasing such as this in the terms and conditions when ordering
from them (this is for B+P):

Retailers/entrepreneurs
These conditions only apply to consumers and not to retailers or entrepreneurs.
We define retailers or entrepreneurs as those who place orders for products which
aren’t intended for personal use. In these circumstances, we can cancel the order
without being liable in any way.


They will also have your name and address when you are their customer (unless
you only buy in-store without using VIP), and they will have your name and address
as a reseller. It will be easy for them to link known resellers on their platform
to customers accounts on their other platform. Presumably at some stage there
will need to be an agreement update when LEGO take over BL, and this will need
careful reading.

My guess is that that whole clause will be obsolete. It stems from the situation
that the aftermarket is some place else than the official outlet - it won't
be that way anymore in the future. Either they will offer what they can offer
through Bricklink (or link to it from Bricklink) or they will reduce/stop selling
parts altogether.
In any case, when the services LEGO offers are directly adjacent to the services
that we offer, it doesn't make sense anymore to buy from LEGO and sell it
on Bricklink for a higher price, right next to the source.

If I were LEGO I would stop putting energy in trying to control the market and
simply through supply&demand put anyone out of business who offers exactly what
I offer but at a higher price (sets and the few pieces that LEGO can offer).
I think overlap naturally disappears that way.

Unless of course we sellers manage to completely buy everything LEGO offers out
of stock and offer it at a higher price... like concert ticket scam..

Yeah, I think there are two parts here: control of parts and prices, and the
user data. If they decide to flood the market with what were expensive parts
to make them cheap, then I have no issue with that, they can already do it if
they want. If they want to make their own parts expensive through B+P to stop
resale, they can also do that. That bit seems fine.

It will surely be interesting what they now do with the user data. They already
know their customer details and they will soon know BL reseller details. And
they can ban anyone they think is reselling from buying from them directly, whether
it is for personal use or resale. That bit seems more worrying.

2 questions come to mind:
1. Is it actually legal to use the data in that way?
2. Is buying from Lego.com really that big a deal? I very rarely find anything
worth buying there, and when I do, I can't even buy the quantities I need.
Plus a significant chance of screw-up / customer service trouble.
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  2 questions come to mind:
1. Is it actually legal to use the data in that way?
2. Is buying from Lego.com really that big a deal? I very rarely find anything
worth buying there, and when I do, I can't even buy the quantities I need.
Plus a significant chance of screw-up / customer service trouble.

1. I don't know. If they are two companies owned by the same parent and we
give permission for it to be used, then probably yes. Can we opt out of it? Who
knows? It is not that big a deal for me, as I don't really sell new current
sets, which is where LEGO has often targetted resellers. But if they did just
assume all sellers of new parts are retailers, then all sellers could be hit.
Let's hope they use common sense. Many parts resellers buy sets for specific
parts then part out the rest that they don't need. They are still buying
for personal consumption, and just getting rid of new parts they don't need.

2. It can be useful. For general retail sets, I also rarely use the overpriced
LEGO.com or stores. However, they can be useful for (1) exclusive / D2C sets,
(2) promos not available elsewhere, (3) bricks and pieces, (4) "sets" such as
individual PF motors (or their replacements in future) that tend not to get carried
by retail stores. I also buy a reasonable number of PAB cups during the year
but of course even if banned could still do that anonymously (without VIP, or
use someone else's VIP).
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You know, I wouldn't be shocked if they made a rule that un-retired sets
couldn't be sold here.

In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.



HMMMmmmmm.

A while ago when I started selling here on Bricklink. one of the things I did
was buy directly from the TLG's website when they had discounted Lego for
the purposes of parting out to sell on here. Turns out I was doing too much
of that and TLG flagged me as a "reseller" and thus blacklisted me from ever
buying directly from their main website ever again. It was a crushingly sad
moment...

Sooo, this is kind of an awkward moment for me in one sense. Will they carry
that blacklist over to here now that they will own this market as well, or will
they lift it all together? I am a little nervous.
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Another thing that wouldn't shock me is if they quit selling individual pieces
on the main site entirely. There is never anything there that can't be had
on Bricklink and they don't have to do the work.

In Selling, axaday writes:
  You know, I wouldn't be shocked if they made a rule that un-retired sets
couldn't be sold here.

In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.



HMMMmmmmm.

A while ago when I started selling here on Bricklink. one of the things I did
was buy directly from the TLG's website when they had discounted Lego for
the purposes of parting out to sell on here. Turns out I was doing too much
of that and TLG flagged me as a "reseller" and thus blacklisted me from ever
buying directly from their main website ever again. It was a crushingly sad
moment...

Sooo, this is kind of an awkward moment for me in one sense. Will they carry
that blacklist over to here now that they will own this market as well, or will
they lift it all together? I am a little nervous.
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In Selling, axaday writes:
  Another thing that wouldn't shock me is if they quit selling individual pieces
on the main site entirely. There is never anything there that can't be had
on Bricklink and they don't have to do the work.

Which would be a bummer. Sometimes sellers here do not have much quantities,
whereas you can order up to 200 of a piece at B+P.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, axaday writes:
  Another thing that wouldn't shock me is if they quit selling individual pieces
on the main site entirely. There is never anything there that can't be had
on Bricklink and they don't have to do the work.

Which would be a bummer. Sometimes sellers here do not have much quantities,
whereas you can order up to 200 of a piece at B+P.

They could open a B+P store here on this platform as well as or instead
of
keeping it alive on their own site.

We don't know what their motivation is/will be but for sure parts is not
the most profitable revenue stream for them for all sorts of inventory and complexity
reasons. This is why I believe BL sellers will continue to compliment the in
house offering whatever that may be long term.

Robert
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  They could open a B+P store here on this platform as well as or instead
of
keeping it alive on their own site.


If they do that, they will need to up their game. If they were a store here and
I received a order from them like their B+P orders, I'd probably give them
neutral feedback at best. It can be a month to ship an order, and then they put
all parts mixed up in one bag. It is not so bad when they are a separate site.
But if they are here, then they will be compared to other BL sellers and their
standards are somewhat lower than most sellers I buy from here.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  They could open a B+P store here on this platform as well as or instead
of
keeping it alive on their own site.


If they do that, they will need to up their game. If they were a store here and
I received a order from them like their B+P orders, I'd probably give them
neutral feedback at best. It can be a month to ship an order, and then they put
all parts mixed up in one bag. It is not so bad when they are a separate site.
But if they are here, then they will be compared to other BL sellers and their
standards are somewhat lower than most sellers I buy from here.

...

Robert
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I think it’s safe to say that BL for the most part will operate as it does today.
I don’t think Legos intention is in any way to interfere with what sellers do
or sell as they’ve already said as much that they want to embrace bricklink along
with its community. By upsetting everyone Lego would only risk losing the majority
of its newly acquired seller community to other platforms like Brickowl etc…

Lego have for years recognised BL as an excellent viable source for people to
purchase Lego particularly discontinued parts(In fact if you’ve ever tried to
purchase an old Lego part from them they will almost always direct you to BL).
It also goes without saying that Lego do not have the capacity and probably not
even the interest or resources to hold stock of everything we see on Bricklink
today nor the interest in remanufacturing old parts just to price sellers out
the market after all even if they managed to do all this a huge workforce would
be required to deal with processing these random orders… better off leaving all
that to BL sellers like us right?

The way I see it the selling of individual parts is probably a bit of a thorn
in Legos side. It’s okay for modest sellers like us that are happy making a living
putting the time and effort into picking a dozen or so parts for each of our
customers but when it comes to work/profit ratio the rolling out of sets is where
Lego really make their money not picking 20 random parts for Joe Blogs

Like any organisation I suspect Lego feel they have to offer replacement parts
more as a means of supporting their customers with missing or lost parts from
sets and do so as an essential service rather than something they do necessarily
do by choice. It’s also clear that generic parts aside certain unique parts are
never kept in Legos warehouses indefinitely. Once a set is discontinued it’s
my understanding that in order to make way for new parts any unique replacement
parts relating to a discontinued set are either recycled into new Lego, given
to charities and (I’m actually making my own assumption with this one) but probably
finding their way into the hands of some very privileged sellers here on BL by
legitimate means or otherwise??

There may be less certainty for those who rely on selling bulk generic bricks
or the very latest current parts for instance will Lego set up their own shop
account on BL or integrate their stock onto the site in some other way?… I doubt
it in truth but either way if you offer speedy processing and shipping particularly
within the same region/country as your customer then buying from a third party
will still probably have more appeal than buying from Lego direct it may also
come down to a single part that you stock that they can’t get from Lego which
makes all the difference between you securing the whole order over Lego!

It will be interesting to see what changes develop as time goes on...
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Very much how I see it.

Only time will tell.



In Selling, infinibrix writes:
  I think it’s safe to say that BL for the most part will operate as it does today.
I don’t think Legos intention is in any way to interfere with what sellers do
or sell as they’ve already said as much that they want to embrace bricklink along
with its community. By upsetting everyone Lego would only risk losing the majority
of its newly acquired seller community to other platforms like Brickowl etc…

Lego have for years recognised BL as an excellent viable source for people to
purchase Lego particularly discontinued parts(In fact if you’ve ever tried to
purchase an old Lego part from them they will almost always direct you to BL).
It also goes without saying that Lego do not have the capacity and probably not
even the interest or resources to hold stock of everything we see on Bricklink
today nor the interest in remanufacturing old parts just to price sellers out
the market after all even if they managed to do all this a huge workforce would
be required to deal with processing these random orders… better off leaving all
that to BL sellers like us right?

The way I see it the selling of individual parts is probably a bit of a thorn
in Legos side. It’s okay for modest sellers like us that are happy making a living
putting the time and effort into picking a dozen or so parts for each of our
customers but when it comes to work/profit ratio the rolling out of sets is where
Lego really make their money not picking 20 random parts for Joe Blogs

Like any organisation I suspect Lego feel they have to offer replacement parts
more as a means of supporting their customers with missing or lost parts from
sets and do so as an essential service rather than something they do necessarily
do by choice. It’s also clear that generic parts aside certain unique parts are
never kept in Legos warehouses indefinitely. Once a set is discontinued it’s
my understanding that in order to make way for new parts any unique replacement
parts relating to a discontinued set are either recycled into new Lego, given
to charities and (I’m actually making my own assumption with this one) but probably
finding their way into the hands of some very privileged sellers here on BL by
legitimate means or otherwise??

There may be less certainty for those who rely on selling bulk generic bricks
or the very latest current parts for instance will Lego set up their own shop
account on BL or integrate their stock onto the site in some other way?… I doubt
it in truth but either way if you offer speedy processing and shipping particularly
within the same region/country as your customer then buying from a third party
will still probably have more appeal than buying from Lego direct it may also
come down to a single part that you stock that they can’t get from Lego which
makes all the difference between you securing the whole order over Lego!

It will be interesting to see what changes develop as time goes on...
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In Selling, axaday writes:
  You know, I wouldn't be shocked if they made a rule that un-retired sets couldn't be sold here.


I do not think that such a rule would be necessary. If TLG uses BL to implement
an Amazon-style sales-model, anyone selling current sets would just lose money,
as they would not be able to offer them for a lower price than TLG could.
Furthermore, it would constitute extra work for TLG to try to restrict when sets
can be sold on BL, since sets are released on different dates around the world
and are only truly "retired" when all stock has been sold.


  In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.



HMMMmmmmm.

A while ago when I started selling here on Bricklink. one of the things I did
was buy directly from the TLG's website when they had discounted Lego for
the purposes of parting out to sell on here. Turns out I was doing too much
of that and TLG flagged me as a "reseller" and thus blacklisted me from ever
buying directly from their main website ever again. It was a crushingly sad
moment...

Sooo, this is kind of an awkward moment for me in one sense. Will they carry
that blacklist over to here now that they will own this market as well, or will
they lift it all together? I am a little nervous.
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  I do not think that such a rule would be necessary. If TLG uses BL to implement
an Amazon-style sales-model, anyone selling current sets would just lose money,
as they would not be able to offer them for a lower price than TLG could.

I don't agree here. There is a price that lego sells at, and there is a price
lego could sell at. They are quite far apart. We currently have lots of 30%+
off offers here in the UK. I could buy a set for 30% off and sell it for 10%
off, undercutting LEGO's price and still (just about) make a profit. Would
LEGO really cut their prices to compete? After all, they don't try to compete
when the retail stores offer them at 30% off, so why compete when small sellers
offer them for sale on BL cheaper than they sell for by LEGO?

  Furthermore, it would constitute extra work for TLG to try to restrict when sets
can be sold on BL, since sets are released on different dates around the world
and are only truly "retired" when all stock has been sold.

Not really, they could just refuse to allow them to be added to the catalogue
until the set is deemed to be retired internally within the company.

A more interesting issue is what happens with popular current sets that sell
out, for example, at Christmas time. If they are not available on S@H and in
LEGO stores, does LEGO block their sales here at inflated prices? Remember back
in 2012 when the "Green Lloyd" went out of stock, similar with the original Minecraft.
Supposedly LEGO received complaints about the prices they were being resold at.
LEGO could stop that type of item being in the catalogue at strategic times,
and hence kill sales here.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  I do not think that such a rule would be necessary. If TLG uses BL to implement an Amazon-style sales-model, anyone selling current sets would just lose money, as they would not be able to offer them for a lower price than TLG could.

I don't agree here. There is a price that lego sells at, and there is a price lego could sell at. They are quite far apart. We currently have lots of 30%+ off offers here in the UK. I could buy a set for 30% off and sell it for 10% off, undercutting LEGO's price and still (just about) make a profit. Would LEGO really cut their prices to compete? After all, they don't try to compete when the retail stores offer them at 30% off, so why compete when small sellers offer them for sale on BL cheaper than they sell for by LEGO?


That is true, but if TLG is a Seller on BL (See Amazon), or if they use LEGO.com
to compete, they will still sell at their normal prices. Additionally, I was
referring primarily to Sellers that purchase either directly from TLG, or elsewhere
at full-price. If TLG is unconcerned with occasional sales at retailers or on
other platforms, they would probably not oppose your example scenario (especially
since they would, unlike in cases of off-site sales, make some profit
off of the transaction).


  
  Furthermore, it would constitute extra work for TLG to try to restrict when sets can be sold on BL, since sets are released on different dates around the world and are only truly "retired" when all stock has been sold.

Not really, they could just refuse to allow them to be added to the catalogue until the set is deemed to be retired internally within the company.


This is possible, however, IMO, unlikely. Also, such a policy would hamper
the Catalog’s function as a resource, which I doubt that TLG would do.


  A more interesting issue is what happens with popular current sets that sell out, for example, at Christmas time. If they are not available on S@H and in LEGO stores, does LEGO block their sales here at inflated prices? Remember back in 2012 when the "Green Lloyd" went out of stock, similar with the original Minecraft. Supposedly LEGO received complaints about the prices they were being resold at. LEGO could stop that type of item being in the catalogue at strategic times, and hence kill sales here.


TLG purchased BL to fill voids in their current business-model, and the ability
to generate revenue off of retired/sold-out sets is one such void.
What TLG might do, though, is apply price caps or limits to how much prices
can increase in a given amount of time, since they know that if buyers feel gouged
on BL, they will migrate to other platforms (e.g. Brick Owl), and that they will
subsequently lose business.
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  That is true, but if TLG is a Seller on BL (See Amazon), or if they use LEGO.com
to compete, they will still sell at their normal prices. Additionally, I was
referring primarily to Sellers that purchase either directly from TLG, or elsewhere
at full-price. If TLG is unconcerned with occasional sales at retailers or on
other platforms, they would probably not oppose your example scenario (especially
since they would, unlike in cases of off-site sales, make some profit
off of the transaction).

Do many sellers here try to sell current in-stock sets for more than LEGO sells
the same item for? I can understand it for the rare sets that go out of stock
around Christmas, but for most other sets, surely buyers would be better off
buying direct from LEGO.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  That is true, but if TLG is a Seller on BL (See Amazon), or if they use LEGO.com
to compete, they will still sell at their normal prices. Additionally, I was
referring primarily to Sellers that purchase either directly from TLG, or elsewhere
at full-price. If TLG is unconcerned with occasional sales at retailers or on
other platforms, they would probably not oppose your example scenario (especially
since they would, unlike in cases of off-site sales, make some profit
off of the transaction).

Do many sellers here try to sell current in-stock sets for more than LEGO sells
the same item for? I can understand it for the rare sets that go out of stock
around Christmas, but for most other sets, surely buyers would be better off
buying direct from LEGO.

Not when LEGO doesn’t ship to you.

Also, people and reason are two different things
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I hope retired sets and minifigures will be still available...
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In Administrative, KyleKatarn98 writes:
  I hope retired sets and minifigures will be still available...


I am certain that they will - This is probably one of the main reasons
for TLG's acquisition of BL. Bricklink facilitates the sale of items that
TLG either cannot or will not sell, so removing this aspect and reducing BL to
essentially an off-site LEGO.com would make the acquisition a massive waste of
money on TLG's part, as well as simply driving consumers into the hands of
competitors (e.g. Brick Owl).
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
  I am super excited to share some big news with you today. The LEGO Group has reached an agreement to acquire BrickLink.

We have a few things to finalise and plan to complete the acquisition before the end of the year. You can read the official announcement HERE.

As many of you who follow the LEGO Group may know, we don’t traditionally make acquisitions. Over the years, we’ve grown the business organically, focussing on our core and working to reach more kids with LEGO® play.

But BrickLink is different. It has a special connection with the AFOL community and the opportunity was too good to miss. Why?

You’re important to us. BrickLink is one of the largest, independent communities of LEGO enthusiasts in the world. Our adult fans are incredibly important to us and we are serious about creating more great experiences together.

We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.

Thank you BrickLink team

I want to recognise everything Jay, Marvin, Russell and the BrickLink team has done over the past six years to make BrickLink what it is today. They have taken Dan’s incredible vision to the next level while staying true to his purpose of bringing fans together. BrickLink wouldn’t exist without Dan, and we can assure you, we will keep his original mission close to our hearts. I would also like to thank Eliska Jezkova for her support and we are pleased to announce that she will continue to be involved as a BrickLink Goodwill Ambassador.

BrickLink also wouldn’t exist without you – the loyal, dedicated, entrepreneurial and incredibly creative members, sellers and fans. Thank you for the support you’ve shown to BrickLink. We will do our best to honour your interests and passions.

We look forward to welcoming the BrickLink team to the LEGO Group and continuing to work to make the best possible platform and experience for you.

To help us do that, we want to hear your views. During the coming weeks, the team will host an AMA to help us understand more about what you want out of BrickLink. Stay tuned for details.

I am excited about the future and I look forward to building the next phase for BrickLink, together.

Niels

tldr: The LEGO Group can’t wait to collaborate more closely with the awesome BrickLink community!



I do not understand how this is beneficial to sellers who are reselling Lego
sets in competition to the Lego stores?
Sure we could expect collaboration on new sets but Bricklink is a buying and
selling forum as it’s main function, so how can it be good to bring it back to
being essentially another Lego store?
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I told Lego I was selling Lego bricks and they banned me for ever ordering Lego
bricks through the internet. I told them no one told me the rules and they labeled
me a business and told me I was abusive towards there rules? I live in a capitalist
society and the rules they set forth don't apply to me!!!

The point is... if Lego knows who you are... They will Ban you too..

I love Lego, but I HATE THE LEGO GROUP!!!

They have my IP address locked in their system and know my payment methods and
their computer system has flagged me as a re sellar..

This will happen to everyone here...

THEY WILL KILL AFOL's off for good..

I lost my VIP CARD ability to buy fro them directly..

Now what are my children supposed to do?
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In LEGO, MISB_Collector writes:
  I told Lego I was selling Lego bricks and they banned me for ever ordering Lego
bricks through the internet. I told them no one told me the rules and they labeled
me a business and told me I was abusive towards there rules? I live in a capitalist
society and the rules they set forth don't apply to me!!!

The point is... if Lego knows who you are... They will Ban you too..

I love Lego, but I HATE THE LEGO GROUP!!!

They have my IP address locked in their system and know my payment methods and
their computer system has flagged me as a re sellar..

This will happen to everyone here...

THEY WILL KILL AFOL's off for good..

I lost my VIP CARD ability to buy fro them directly..

Now what are my children supposed to do?
 
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  Now what are my children supposed to do?

Walmart, target, amazon, lego store, ebay, thrift stores, other people...


My goodness. The poor children.
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There is a reason for us to be on Bricklink. It's because Lego cannot offer
this.
Of course the transaction fees will go up!
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In LEGO, bwes writes:
  There is a reason for us to be on Bricklink. It's because Lego cannot offer
this.
Of course the transaction fees will go up!

Why do people keep saying the fees will go up when LEGO and BrickLink have explicitly
said they wont?
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In LEGO, jonwil writes:
  In LEGO, bwes writes:
  There is a reason for us to be on Bricklink. It's because Lego cannot offer
this.
Of course the transaction fees will go up!

Why do people keep saying the fees will go up when LEGO and BrickLink have explicitly
said they wont?

Because they are very rational people like all humans are, not.

Doom is on us!
Run for the hills!
… Er, oh no belay that, it’s just the microwave that beeped.
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In LEGO, jonwil writes:
  In LEGO, bwes writes:
  There is a reason for us to be on Bricklink. It's because Lego cannot offer
this.
Of course the transaction fees will go up!

Why do people keep saying the fees will go up when LEGO and BrickLink have explicitly
said they wont?

"There are absolutely no plans to change transaction fees or anything like
that."
Not currently having plans doesn't mean they will never change them. It just
means they won't change them in the near future. Some of us are looking at
the long term here.
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In LEGO, pikachu3 writes:
  In LEGO, jonwil writes:
  In LEGO, bwes writes:
  There is a reason for us to be on Bricklink. It's because Lego cannot offer
this.
Of course the transaction fees will go up!

Why do people keep saying the fees will go up when LEGO and BrickLink have explicitly
said they wont?

"There are absolutely no plans to change transaction fees or anything like
that."
Not currently having plans doesn't mean they will never change them. It just
means they won't change them in the near future. Some of us are looking at
the long term here.

Of course Bricklink could have raised the transaction fees at any time, so this
has always been a long term risk. So nothing has changed, really. Not being privy
to either Bricklink's or Lego's long term plans, I don't see how
anyone can say it's more (or less) likely now than it was before.
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In LEGO, 62Bricks writes:
  In LEGO, pikachu3 writes:
  In LEGO, jonwil writes:
  In LEGO, bwes writes:
  There is a reason for us to be on Bricklink. It's because Lego cannot offer
this.
Of course the transaction fees will go up!

Why do people keep saying the fees will go up when LEGO and BrickLink have explicitly
said they wont?

"There are absolutely no plans to change transaction fees or anything like
that."
Not currently having plans doesn't mean they will never change them. It just
means they won't change them in the near future. Some of us are looking at
the long term here.

Of course Bricklink could have raised the transaction fees at any time, so this
has always been a long term risk. So nothing has changed, really. Not being privy
to either Bricklink's or Lego's long term plans, I don't see how
anyone can say it's more (or less) likely now than it was before.

Exactly this. You can never know, but if you compare being owned by someone who
never uses it and who's in it only for money, to being owned by a party that
has a serious interest in the AFOL hobby continuing to exist, which one of the
two was more likely to increase fees if you had to choose one? I thought
so
I'm gonna predict they will lower fees, not because there's real reason
to believe that, but just to balance the fear
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In LEGO, jonwil writes:
  In LEGO, bwes writes:
  There is a reason for us to be on Bricklink. It's because Lego cannot offer
this.
Of course the transaction fees will go up!

Why do people keep saying the fees will go up when LEGO and BrickLink have explicitly
said they wont?

Negative or fearful mindset/personality.


Even if they do. It is what it is. No use fretting about it IMO.
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In NEWS, Admin writes:
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We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.



I’m going to make an outlier prediction, based was on the above paragraphs, that
TLG turns BL into a dedicated MOC site and eliminates the marketplace. They alone
will sell the parts needed for the AFOL Designer program and Bricklink Studio.

I think the huge number of tiny-volume sellers, the occasional scammers, the
antiquated interface, this forum, etc will all be too much of a nuisance for
TLG to cope with, and the marketplace doesn’t contribute to their core as do
the Designer and Studio programs.

I doubt there will be a marketplace a year from now. I hope I’m wrong.
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In LEGO, Proprietor writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
snip
  

We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.




  I’m going to make an outlier prediction, based was on the above paragraphs, that
TLG turns BL into a dedicated MOC site and eliminates the marketplace. They alone
will sell the parts needed for the AFOL Designer program and Bricklink Studio.


I think you are right in that I also believe that this is where their primary
interest is.

  I think the huge number of tiny-volume sellers, the occasional scammers, the
antiquated interface, this forum, etc will all be too much of a nuisance for
TLG to cope with, and the marketplace doesn’t contribute to their core as do
the Designer and Studio programs.

I doubt there will be a marketplace a year from now. I hope I’m wrong.

However, I don't think they can totally kill the marketplace. If they try
to kill it, then people will move elsewhere. Extracting data from the community
to improve their sales by giving AFOLs more of what they want is one thing, trying
to control the community is different.
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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  In LEGO, Proprietor writes:
  In NEWS, Admin writes:
snip
  

We want to collaborate more. You are awesome fans and we’re grateful for your support. Your creativity is awe-inspiring, as the recent AFOL Designer programme showed. We are keen to do even more, and this is a great platform from which to do that.

We see huge potential in BrickLink and we want to be part of its future. The BrickLink Studio offers fans a unique creative experience, while the marketplace is an important source of elements for your incredible builds. We recognise this and will continue to preserve and develop this aspect of the platform.




  I’m going to make an outlier prediction, based was on the above paragraphs, that
TLG turns BL into a dedicated MOC site and eliminates the marketplace. They alone
will sell the parts needed for the AFOL Designer program and Bricklink Studio.


I think you are right in that I also believe that this is where their primary
interest is.

  I think the huge number of tiny-volume sellers, the occasional scammers, the
antiquated interface, this forum, etc will all be too much of a nuisance for
TLG to cope with, and the marketplace doesn’t contribute to their core as do
the Designer and Studio programs.

I doubt there will be a marketplace a year from now. I hope I’m wrong.

However, I don't think they can totally kill the marketplace. If they try
to kill it, then people will move elsewhere. Extracting data from the community
to improve their sales by giving AFOLs more of what they want is one thing, trying
to control the community is different.


BL has inertia and it has name recognition. The combination of the two drive
traffic. If people want to move to another site, they are free to do so, but
for another site to be a success it has to replicate both inertia and name recognition.
BL achieved the inertia primarily because it was first out of the gate in 2001.
Dan filled a need, that no one else was filling (hat tip to LUGNET, Peeron, ref.toys.lego,
and Lar's factoring service). My recollection is that someone wanted to buy
Dan out around 2002 or 2003, but he declined. I'm not sure if he ever revealed
the name, but my impression was it was one of the larger players (e.g. EBay,
etc)

So here we are in 2019. There is still a core of enthusiasts that worship, play,
and build with 'The Brick'. My impression is that this market is shrinking
somewhat, as consumers are being flooded with many other offerings to manipulate
their available free time. TLG's purchase of BL may well have been related
to trying to reach this core market. S@H is, for all intents and purposes, a
marketing and sales channel. It is not a community. If TLG wants to maintain
the inertia here, they (hopefully) will not mess with the inertia. I can see
some of BL being integrated better with TLG's vast knowledge-base from years
gone by (and yes, I'm speaking to the endless debate about Pearl Light Gray
as one instance that TLG can resolve once and for all).

Onward !
Nita Rae
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  BL has inertia and it has name recognition. The combination of the two drive
traffic. If people want to move to another site, they are free to do so, but
for another site to be a success it has to replicate both inertia and name recognition.

  If TLG wants to maintain
the inertia here, they (hopefully) will not mess with the inertia.

I totally agree about the inertia. However, it is easy to lose inertia by making
a massive change. If they did something catastrophic, then word of mouth for
bricklink will probably turn into word of mouth for brickowl. If bricklink was
no longer the place to buy parts a user wants (for example, if they were only
selling AFOL designed sets), the parts traffic will soon stop.

I don't think that they (by which I mean, I hope they don't) try to change
the parts / sets selling side. Expanding on the AFOL sets is fine. Personally
I didn't have much interest there, but no doubt they can expand it further
and some future sets might be of interest to me. Killing off the venue for parts
(and to a lesser extent sets) would be a massive change though, at least for
me. I want the parts that I want, not the parts (and combinations of parts) that
they say I can have in their sets. If I cannot buy the parts I want through BL,
I have no reason to come to BL or talk about BL or recommend BL. And that is
a little bit of inertia lost. Repeat that too many times with other people, and
it is game over.
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In LEGO, yorbrick writes:
  
  BL has inertia and it has name recognition. The combination of the two drive
traffic. If people want to move to another site, they are free to do so, but
for another site to be a success it has to replicate both inertia and name recognition.

  If TLG wants to maintain
the inertia here, they (hopefully) will not mess with the inertia.

I totally agree about the inertia. However, it is easy to lose inertia by making
a massive change. If they did something catastrophic, then word of mouth for
bricklink will probably turn into word of mouth for brickowl. If bricklink was
no longer the place to buy parts a user wants (for example, if they were only
selling AFOL designed sets), the parts traffic will soon stop.

I don't think that they (by which I mean, I hope they don't) try to change
the parts / sets selling side. Expanding on the AFOL sets is fine. Personally
I didn't have much interest there, but no doubt they can expand it further
and some future sets might be of interest to me. Killing off the venue for parts
(and to a lesser extent sets) would be a massive change though, at least for
me. I want the parts that I want, not the parts (and combinations of parts) that
they say I can have in their sets. If I cannot buy the parts I want through BL,
I have no reason to come to BL or talk about BL or recommend BL. And that is
a little bit of inertia lost. Repeat that too many times with other people, and
it is game over.

One of the reasons that BL has had inertia, has had to do with the simple necessity
to create a user membership. At the time that BL launched, that war a minimal
requirement on pretty much every site on the net. There Nate now sites that are
pure selling sites, where you do not need a membership (or signin) to make a
purchase. Everything is ad hoc. You add something to your cart, hit checkout,
then select from any of a number of payment systems. The payment system is responsible
for providing, and authorizing, the shipping address. One of the side effects
of this paradigm, is that sellers do not have the ability to leave feedback to
buyers, because the buyer has no 'account' to leave feedback against.

I'm half expecting that BL will pick up this type of scheme, and might even
jump on the 'Log in with Facebook' that some sites have adopted. Time
will tell.

Nita Rae
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In LEGO, cosmicray writes:

  I'm half expecting that BL will pick up this type of scheme, and might even
jump on the 'Log in with Facebook' that some sites have adopted.

Please, no. Anything but this!