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 Author: syntheticcollab View Messages Posted By syntheticcollab
 Posted: Oct 1, 2019 14:24
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Hello everyone!

I would like to introduce a software project for a collaboratrive, resp. socialisable
way to build sets. It's essntially digital instructions, which coordinate
the assembly of any set for any group, so y'all can sit in one room and build
something really large really fast with really much fun (and pizza and drinks).
Curious to see how it works? Find us here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAvXGkiW4fE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_dTjjsb-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arvgaG-PCO0


So... what do you think?

Cheers!
 Author: superchicken77 View Messages Posted By superchicken77
 Posted: Oct 1, 2019 15:39
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Honestly, I don't think much of it. None of the three videos explained anything
about how the software works. All I saw was two people building something in
time lapse.




In Related Software, syntheticcollab writes:
  Hello everyone!

I would like to introduce a software project for a collaboratrive, resp. socialisable
way to build sets. It's essntially digital instructions, which coordinate
the assembly of any set for any group, so y'all can sit in one room and build
something really large really fast with really much fun (and pizza and drinks).
Curious to see how it works? Find us here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAvXGkiW4fE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_dTjjsb-s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arvgaG-PCO0


So... what do you think?

Cheers!
 Author: syntheticcollab View Messages Posted By syntheticcollab
 Posted: Oct 1, 2019 16:07
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In Related Software, superchicken77 writes:
  Honestly, I don't think much of it. None of the three videos explained anything
about how the software works. All I saw was two people building something in
time lapse.


Thank you for the feedback, now we know what we have to improve.
 Author: syntheticcollab View Messages Posted By syntheticcollab
 Posted: Oct 4, 2019 13:22
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In Related Software, superchicken77 writes:
  Honestly, I don't think much of it. None of the three videos explained anything
about how the software works. All I saw was two people building something in
time lapse.

Does the principle become more visible to you like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6s-5oCWnU

Cheers!
 Author: syntheticcollab View Messages Posted By syntheticcollab
 Posted: Oct 13, 2019 18:19
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Hello everyone. Are you interested in seeing a different way to build LEGO?
This app let's you build sets together with friends and family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvWEoqz_F38&t=213s
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 Posted: Oct 2, 2019 11:04
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I think it looks promising. My teenage daughter likes to build with me. Recently
we put the Saturn V together and it was a lot of fun. What inevitably happens
is that one wants to continue when the other takes a break. It looks like when
a user taps for the next step, it looks at where the other builder is. That
would allow a faster builder to work with a slower builder and one who likes
to take several breaks.

Hopefully, this will work with standard sets too. I'm not into the technic
sets (both cost and style do not appeal to me). Even just as an instruction
manual on the iPad that doesn't require scrolling a PDF would be nice.
 Author: syntheticcollab View Messages Posted By syntheticcollab
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In Related Software, VOTB writes:
  I think it looks promising. My teenage daughter likes to build with me. Recently
we put the Saturn V together and it was a lot of fun. What inevitably happens
is that one wants to continue when the other takes a break. It looks like when
a user taps for the next step, it looks at where the other builder is. That
would allow a faster builder to work with a slower builder and one who likes
to take several breaks.

Hopefully, this will work with standard sets too. I'm not into the technic
sets (both cost and style do not appeal to me). Even just as an instruction
manual on the iPad that doesn't require scrolling a PDF would be nice.

Hi, thank you! Congratulations on the Saturn V, we still have it pending, but
it's definetely on our list and having seen it live, it's absolutely
impresive 1969 pieces!

It is very possible to take breaks or join the building party later. The work
assignment is fully flexible. The app runs on a structure analysis of the plans
and takes into account progress and building speeds to makes assignment decisions.
We are working on a better introduction of the technicalities and will post a
video on that soon.

The app's distribution logic is trimmed to handle different build speeds
as follows: The plan evaluation determines step urgencies and uses this to distribute
them accordingly, which is derived from how just in sequence production works.
In this, the faster builder will get the more urgent steps, preventing the assembly
to get stuck. More urgent does not necessarily mean smaller or less interesting
and usually everyone gets to see different parts of the assembly and gets to
work on the main yield.

The determined plan structure is used to coordinate and visualise. The visualisation
of the structure looks like a tree and can be observed in the background of the
interface. In these videos you have to take a close look, but it's visible.
It works as a progress indicator and shows where the others are at.
It can be described as turning regular instructions into a dependency map, the
app then uses to navigate you through and keep the group together.

I can expand on the theoretical approach we took here, if you are interested.
So much for now:

This works with any set, that contains (somewhat many) subassemblies - which
from what I have seen is any standard LEGO set with more than 150 pcs. The set
structure determines the maximum reasonable group size. Small sets can usually
be built with up to three, larger sets with more people - This under the premise,
that everyone gets a task up until a few moments before finishing, otherwise
the group size becomes arbitrary. These "few moments" are usually are within
the range of seconds, but no more than minutes.

We built the Unimog U400 (~2000 pcs) with 5 experienced builders in about 2.5h
and the Lunar Lander (~1000pcs) with three very mixed experience levels in about
three hours.
The Lander is so modular, that it could be done with many more though, I would
go with an estimate of as well five or six people. The Unimog has about 300 subassemblies,
the lander about 120.

The app is a scroll free page. There is an autoscroll feature, which positions
the current step in view. It does allow you to scroll within the view container
to reposition or look at the other steps in a module. As well touch controls
have proven very handy, such as zooming to see details on small screens or swiping
to confirm step's been finished. Most builders on the Unimog used phones.


Thanks for watching and the positive feedback, I appreciate it lots!

Have a nice evening/day!

P.S.: If you are interested, I can give you access. We have the Lander and the
Mustang systemized.

Yours

Dominik
 Author: syntheticcollab View Messages Posted By syntheticcollab
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In Related Software, VOTB writes:
  I think it looks promising. My teenage daughter likes to build with me. Recently
we put the Saturn V together and it was a lot of fun. What inevitably happens
is that one wants to continue when the other takes a break. It looks like when
a user taps for the next step, it looks at where the other builder is. That
would allow a faster builder to work with a slower builder and one who likes
to take several breaks.

Hopefully, this will work with standard sets too. I'm not into the technic
sets (both cost and style do not appeal to me). Even just as an instruction
manual on the iPad that doesn't require scrolling a PDF would be nice.

Hi again! We built the lunar lander with three people and uploaded an explanation
video a couple of days ago. If you like, give it a look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jOOIegHgfE&t=5s