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 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Aug 26, 2019 10:19
 Subject: Not sure there is an answer
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calsbricks (5819)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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We use tiered pricing in our store for all items that have over 2,000 items in
stock. That is fine except when we part out a new set - the consolidation items
offer keep old price and old tiered price or use new price and new tier.

With several hundred items over the threshold that we use we have to keep going
back to our inventory and choosing all items over 2000 (qty) and re-doing the
tiered pricing. It is tiresome.

Surely it would be better to have an option in inventory to set tiered pricing
automatically at whatever level (s) you want and if by chance a part out wants
to drop the tiered it should have a pop-up to warn you and allow you to override
that. That isn't a lot of code.

There really has to be a better way.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Aug 26, 2019 10:49
 Subject: Re: Not sure there is an answer
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Help, calsbricks writes:
  We use tiered pricing in our store for all items that have over 2,000 items in
stock. That is fine except when we part out a new set - the consolidation items
offer keep old price and old tiered price or use new price and new tier.

With several hundred items over the threshold that we use we have to keep going
back to our inventory and choosing all items over 2000 (qty) and re-doing the
tiered pricing. It is tiresome.

Surely it would be better to have an option in inventory to set tiered pricing
automatically at whatever level (s) you want and if by chance a part out wants
to drop the tiered it should have a pop-up to warn you and allow you to override
that. That isn't a lot of code.

There really has to be a better way.

Something like this would work. That is if you want to use it in the way that
we do. If on the other hand you just wish to use it on selected items you could
use the above individually.

This coupled with a warning when parting out that the part out wants to alter
your tiered pricing and allowing you to accept or refute it - would be the final
check.

Is it really that much code?

We appreciate all that is going on at BL new people, other ideas (XP) etc but
often simple little things like this could be done and dusted in a very short
time and it would be an improvement to the current way this works.

Whilst you are at it -please add choice of colour on the My Inventory page so
we do not have to scroll through 100's of items to look at a single colour.
Yes I know we can use the PCVC but honestly does anyone remember those?
 
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Aug 26, 2019 11:41
 Subject: Re: Not sure there is an answer
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Teup (4256)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Help, calsbricks writes:
  We use tiered pricing in our store for all items that have over 2,000 items in
stock. That is fine except when we part out a new set - the consolidation items
offer keep old price and old tiered price or use new price and new tier.

With several hundred items over the threshold that we use we have to keep going
back to our inventory and choosing all items over 2000 (qty) and re-doing the
tiered pricing. It is tiresome.

Surely it would be better to have an option in inventory to set tiered pricing
automatically at whatever level (s) you want and if by chance a part out wants
to drop the tiered it should have a pop-up to warn you and allow you to override
that. That isn't a lot of code.

There really has to be a better way.

Hmmm.. but (if I understand correctly) then it would also be better if the tiered
prices were replaced by discount percentages. Because the new price combined
with the old tiered prices may cause strange situations or conflicts, with
the new price being lower than previous higher tiered prices and things like
that. If the tiers would represent discount percentages rather than fixed prices,
the tiered prices would update nicely along with the new price, keeping the same
proportions to the base price.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Aug 26, 2019 12:24
 Subject: Re: Not sure there is an answer
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Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, calsbricks writes:
  We use tiered pricing in our store for all items that have over 2,000 items in
stock. That is fine except when we part out a new set - the consolidation items
offer keep old price and old tiered price or use new price and new tier.

With several hundred items over the threshold that we use we have to keep going
back to our inventory and choosing all items over 2000 (qty) and re-doing the
tiered pricing. It is tiresome.

Surely it would be better to have an option in inventory to set tiered pricing
automatically at whatever level (s) you want and if by chance a part out wants
to drop the tiered it should have a pop-up to warn you and allow you to override
that. That isn't a lot of code.

There really has to be a better way.

Hmmm.. but (if I understand correctly) then it would also be better if the tiered
prices were replaced by discount percentages. Because the new price combined
with the old tiered prices may cause strange situations or conflicts, with
the new price being lower than previous higher tiered prices and things like
that. If the tiers would represent discount percentages rather than fixed prices,
the tiered prices would update nicely along with the new price, keeping the same
proportions to the base price.

Hi Teup

I think that is how it works now using the my inventory tiered pricing section.
The only shortfall is you cannot seem to apply it to a specific level of items
in stock as we do say if over 2000 in stock lower price for 100 by 1p. You can
do only % there so we cant use that.

%'s off do not work as well, in our opinion as amounts but to each their
own on that one.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Aug 26, 2019 12:44
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Teup (4256)

Location:  Netherlands, Utrecht
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In Help, calsbricks writes:
  In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, calsbricks writes:
  We use tiered pricing in our store for all items that have over 2,000 items in
stock. That is fine except when we part out a new set - the consolidation items
offer keep old price and old tiered price or use new price and new tier.

With several hundred items over the threshold that we use we have to keep going
back to our inventory and choosing all items over 2000 (qty) and re-doing the
tiered pricing. It is tiresome.

Surely it would be better to have an option in inventory to set tiered pricing
automatically at whatever level (s) you want and if by chance a part out wants
to drop the tiered it should have a pop-up to warn you and allow you to override
that. That isn't a lot of code.

There really has to be a better way.

Hmmm.. but (if I understand correctly) then it would also be better if the tiered
prices were replaced by discount percentages. Because the new price combined
with the old tiered prices may cause strange situations or conflicts, with
the new price being lower than previous higher tiered prices and things like
that. If the tiers would represent discount percentages rather than fixed prices,
the tiered prices would update nicely along with the new price, keeping the same
proportions to the base price.

Hi Teup

I think that is how it works now using the my inventory tiered pricing section.
The only shortfall is you cannot seem to apply it to a specific level of items
in stock as we do say if over 2000 in stock lower price for 100 by 1p. You can
do only % there so we cant use that.

%'s off do not work as well, in our opinion as amounts but to each their
own on that one.

Looks like right now the tiers are in absolute values rather than relative percentages.
My point is, without changing it to relative percentages, it's a bit unclear
what "I want to update the price but keep the old tiers" exactly means in terms
of code. (That's not a good summary of what you want here, but I think this
part is involved).

So then does that mean that the tiers keep the same relative proportion to the
base price? Do the tiers stay the same in absolute figures? And if so, what if
that new base price falls below the price that was previously set as a tier price?
Should it then lower that tier, ignore the update, or ask the user, and if so
how will that interface look... etc.

I think it's more code and less intuitive than it seems... as long as the
tiers remain parameters with absolute prices, that is. When they are first changed
to discount percentages, none of these problems and conflicts will arise.
 Author: Andrsv View Messages Posted By Andrsv
 Posted: Aug 26, 2019 16:18
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Location:  Norway, Rogaland
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In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, calsbricks writes:
  In Help, Teup writes:
  In Help, calsbricks writes:
  We use tiered pricing in our store for all items that have over 2,000 items in
stock. That is fine except when we part out a new set - the consolidation items
offer keep old price and old tiered price or use new price and new tier.

With several hundred items over the threshold that we use we have to keep going
back to our inventory and choosing all items over 2000 (qty) and re-doing the
tiered pricing. It is tiresome.

Surely it would be better to have an option in inventory to set tiered pricing
automatically at whatever level (s) you want and if by chance a part out wants
to drop the tiered it should have a pop-up to warn you and allow you to override
that. That isn't a lot of code.

There really has to be a better way.

Hmmm.. but (if I understand correctly) then it would also be better if the tiered
prices were replaced by discount percentages. Because the new price combined
with the old tiered prices may cause strange situations or conflicts, with
the new price being lower than previous higher tiered prices and things like
that. If the tiers would represent discount percentages rather than fixed prices,
the tiered prices would update nicely along with the new price, keeping the same
proportions to the base price.

Hi Teup

I think that is how it works now using the my inventory tiered pricing section.
The only shortfall is you cannot seem to apply it to a specific level of items
in stock as we do say if over 2000 in stock lower price for 100 by 1p. You can
do only % there so we cant use that.

%'s off do not work as well, in our opinion as amounts but to each their
own on that one.

Looks like right now the tiers are in absolute values rather than relative percentages.
My point is, without changing it to relative percentages, it's a bit unclear
what "I want to update the price but keep the old tiers" exactly means in terms
of code. (That's not a good summary of what you want here, but I think this
part is involved).

So then does that mean that the tiers keep the same relative proportion to the
base price? Do the tiers stay the same in absolute figures? And if so, what if
that new base price falls below the price that was previously set as a tier price?
Should it then lower that tier, ignore the update, or ask the user, and if so
how will that interface look... etc.

I think it's more code and less intuitive than it seems... as long as the
tiers remain parameters with absolute prices, that is. When they are first changed
to discount percentages, none of these problems and conflicts will arise.

Often things are more complicated than you expect. There are many ways to add
parts. Probably there are different source code for some of the ways. Which
mean that the developers have to rewrite code or duplicate code. They might even
have to write the code differently for each place you can add items.

I've understood that some of the codebase is old and deprecated. Probably
it doesn't have automatic testing. By adding new code you risk to break something
else. Which means you will have to test the code heavily.

Software development and testing is time consuming. In Norway 1hour of development
cost around 100€. I guess prices at bricklink is similar.

There is no such thing as "I just want this small feature".

Sorry for the off topic thoughts.

I think your idea is good. I also miss more features for consolidating lots.
For me bricklink wasn't sufficient for adding parts. I've made my own
scripts which does most of the job for me