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 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: May 3, 2024 13:52
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

I am genuinely curious how this changes anything?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 13:45
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In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

Indeed!  It takes me O days here

Zero day? You're a living exploit!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 13:42
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

No no, I'm just in forum for funzies!
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: May 3, 2024 13:23
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In Selling, runner.caller writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".

Yes although like you say I think the principal from Paypal's perspective
is that you cannot charge your paypal customers different to any other payment
method so even if you called it an Admin fee that fee would need to apply to
all customers and not just your Paypal customers else it would be deemed as a
paypal specific admin fee. I guess you could get around this by making your store
only accept paypal as a payment method because then the admin fee applies to
all your customers equally!
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 3, 2024 13:03
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  
  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!

Indeed!  It takes me O days here
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 13:02
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least

Usually 1-2 days but what is you doing that takes 15 days 🦦…
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:56
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  3 days? 15 days, at least

That's because you sell too much!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:55
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver

3 days? 15 days, at least
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:46
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That’s a wild one 👁️👁️
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:45
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...

The trick is to save all the documents and not think about it until tax season,
then do nothing but taxes for 3 days straight and then forget about it until
the next tax season. Good money saver
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:39
 Subject: Re: Selling CMF's
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.

I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.

They still need to be opened to identify them as they are meant to be blind packaged.
Of course, in some cases the barcodes can be used where known. In the same way
buyers don't care about ripped open foil packets for earlier series, I doubt
buyers will want sellers to be shipping the relatively large and heavy ripped
open boxes at the buyer's expense, just for them to be thrown away. If they
were meant to be identifiable without opening, it is a very different case.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:31
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.

I think it's one thing to not include a polybag, but the CMFs come in boxes
now.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:08
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Coren666 writes:
  I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is

You can't sell them as New, Complete without the box.

You can sell them as New, Incomplete OR you could part them out as sets and sell
the minifigures in zip bags.

Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.


Honestly I personally think the guidelines for complete sets should be changed.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 12:01
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Coren666 writes:
  I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is

You can't sell them as New, Complete without the box.

You can sell them as New, Incomplete OR you could part them out as sets and sell
the minifigures in zip bags.

Many sellers list CMFs that have been opened to check what they are and put into
a ziplock bag as a new(complete) set (but not new(sealed). This seems to have
been tolerated for the last decade and more, and is pretty much the standard
now. Obviously not listing them as new(sealed), just new(complete). I've
never had a complaint about not including the empty packet when selling like
that. The only complaint I ever had with one was when I included the empty packet
and the buyer complained I was sending them my rubbish.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:54
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In Selling, 129samot writes:
  I recon this is done so you get more sales through the "auto select"
feature in "buy all"?
Or does the algorithm account for fees?

It doesn’t account for real shipping: it uses an average of “recent” “similar”
orders (it’s somewhere in the help I think); so I doubt it does anything with
fees.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:53
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In Selling, Davidpkaiser2 writes:
  Hello, I’m a new seller with two sales under my belt. It’s been great so far.
I have a few cool Lego Star Wars sets for sale and I’m offering them at 20% off
because, well… May the 4th be with you.
With the sale, my prices are very competitive and I would like to promote it.
Is there a way to promote stuff on sale?

As Saitobricks.ca said: you simply make a post in the Sales topic.  That also
goes for advertising new items for sale.
In case of doubt, look at the topics’ descriptions: https://www.bricklink.com/messageTopics.asp

I moved this thread to Selling as it’s not properly an ad for your sale and you
can only do one such ad per month.
(To be clear: you only get one new thread per month; you can answer your post
for updates… provided it’s not a way to circumvent the limit.)

Also note that when you post in Sales, you post appears on the site’s main page
(scroll down a bit to see the current ones).
(That only works if you post in Sales, not when the post is moved to Sales.)

So, go and make a proper sale post in Sales!

Happy selling
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:41
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In Selling, Coren666 writes:
  I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is

You can't sell them as New, Complete without the box.

You can sell them as New, Incomplete OR you could part them out as sets and sell
the minifigures in zip bags.
 Author: Coren666 View Messages Posted By Coren666
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:38
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I was wondering how one would sell the minifig cmf sets? I am selling them as
new but the substatus is somewhat hazy to me. A lot of sellers sell as new and
complete but throw away the box. I would rather (for storing purposes but also
for cheaper shipping) lose the box and sell them in a ziploc bag...

What is the policy on this? And how strict is it? If it is strict, I'm just
going to scan them and sell the boxes as is
 Author: 129samot View Messages Posted By 129samot
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:17
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I recon this is done so you get more sales through the "auto select"
feature in "buy all"?
Or does the algorithm account for fees?
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:12
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In Sales, Davidpkaiser2 writes:
  Hello, I’m a new seller with two sales under my belt. It’s been great so far.
I have a few cool Lego Star Wars sets for sale and I’m offering them at 20% off
because, well… May the 4th be with you.
With the sale, my prices are very competitive and I would like to promote it.
Is there a way to promote stuff on sale?

Here on the forum, just select the sales topic and post about your sale.
 Author: Davidpkaiser2 View Messages Posted By Davidpkaiser2
 Posted: May 3, 2024 11:05
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Hello, I’m a new seller with two sales under my belt. It’s been great so far.
I have a few cool Lego Star Wars sets for sale and I’m offering them at 20% off
because, well… May the 4th be with you.
With the sale, my prices are very competitive and I would like to promote it.
Is there a way to promote stuff on sale?
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:38
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!

I don't know at your place, but a year of accounting in France for a small
company is invoiced about 2000/3000€...
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:35
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

Timothy Smith invented 15 years ago the BrickLink forum famous "Stamp licking
fee"
Loved this picture
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:34
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

This is strictly forbidden by PayPal and BrickLink - and somewhere probably by
EU Laws...
You could report this shop, or at least tell them and see if they change their
Terms?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."

That's cheap, even when averaged over all orders!
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:18
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  And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...

If they have said that in bricklink messages, rather than just by email, then
report it. They should be suspended for doing that.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Selling, Nicolasamico37 writes:
  Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

I'm thinking of a new one:

"Additional charge of $1.50 per order for professional accountant's fees."
 Author: Nicolasamico37 View Messages Posted By Nicolasamico37
 Posted: May 3, 2024 10:15
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

Hi,

Yesterday I placed an order on a little store where I saw that in store terms:
"Additional Bricklink/PayPal fees will be added at the end of the order (packaging,
ink, paper, zip bag envelope, etc...)"

Because I prefer to know before to pay how much it could be, I asked and had
this reply:
"These are bricklink, paypal, packaging fees, in general it is
between 1 and 2 € for small orders."

And when I placed the order, the seller asked me to pay with Paypal "preferably
between Family and Friends, that would be nice"

So, he add fees to the buyer but try to avoid them himself...
 Author: WildBricks View Messages Posted By WildBricks
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

As soon as I see that they are passing on their charges, I least favorite the
store.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers


Bank transfer, that exists???

well we call it e-transfer, so technically yes

  I wish I could transfer you my bank!

They're just screaming at us as of right now

I just followed Chickaroo's rule: buy first think later!

 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers


Bank transfer, that exists???

I wish I could transfer you my bank!

They're just screaming at us as of right now

I just followed Chickaroo's rule: buy first think later!
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Selling, SezaR writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

I make things simple and just dont accept bank transfers
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  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
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  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.


This is what i do and if a buyer choose to pay via bank transfer, no fee for
me, i reduce the percentage over total.
And this is what nearly no other canadian store offer 😕

  So everyone else is wrong?
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  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.

Thanks for your time, and the others who commented.
I'm going to open the rest of the series 26 cases to see if I get one with
a yellow leg like the one posted this morning
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  It says in their terms that 3.5% is added for all electronic payments and it
was added to the order. Just wanted to make sure before I cause problems.

Added to the order at the time you placed it or added to the order at the time
of invoicing?
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  You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.

That is really the same as shopping elsewhere, if they want the parts. The helpdesk
is so slow, nothing will get done very quickly if reported.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.

... or report the shop/member if it's not authorized by Law, or PayPal -
which means not on BrickLink.

I'm 100% kind with amateurs sellers, but less to big shops who doesn't
give a brick of anything.
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying

You have the choice: accept it and pay, or shop elsewhere.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.

It says right in their terms that all electronic payments including PayPal which
is listed, you pay 3.5%. I know everything you are saying and I agree with you.
Thanks for clarifying
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
Thanks

Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Well, you cannot add on a fee saying it is to cover PayPal fees. Adding on a
large fixed fee to cover it for an average size order or a percentage fee
at checkout for no specified reason is likely to get the buyer to dump their
cart and least favourite the store. So while a seller can try to pass the fees
on in other ways, more open pricing is more buyer friendly. And slightly higher
prices don't really matter if a buyer comes to your store because of parts
availability, it only really matters if you aim to be the absolute cheapest store.
But then, if a buyer comes to your store because you are cheapest and you suddenly
add on a large fee, again they might back out and least favourite the store so
as not to be caught again.
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?

Basically yes.

Your prices should includes your costs.

Like your Internet access cost isn't free; will you make an extra fee for
it?

Also: Rental (?), Insurance, Power bill, water, toilet paper, toner, bank fees,
accounting cost, stickers, salary, gas to go to the post office...
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Not specifically. You can charge everyone the same rate regardless of payment
method though.

Speaking only for myself, I tend not to order from stores that nickle-and-dime
buyers on fees.

+1

Of course I'll calculate and often it's still worth to buy with fees,
but I had to spend some time to calculate and compare

Which is why in a general meaning I try to avoid shops with fees.

Note conversion fees are quite difficult and may represent the most.

Say you've a 5% PayPal or payment fee (on order total only), but then you've
to pay in a specific currency (HUF?) then it's another 5% but on the whole
(including fees AND shipping).

In the end it's not at all as simple as 5+5, it's maybe 12 or 13% fees
you pay...
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  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.

So everyone else is wrong?
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  Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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Sure you can. You just add the fixed fee to your S&H costs for all transactions
and the percentage to your part prices.
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In Selling, runner.caller writes:
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".

It says in their terms that 3.5% is added for all electronic payments and it
was added to the order. Just wanted to make sure before I cause problems.
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In Selling, Amazingly writes:
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I think using that verbiage is against paypal's TOS.

I also think someone else once mentioned that it's against paypal's TOS
to have a cheaper payment option than paypal if multiple options are available
at checkout. So if paypal is offered as a payment option, it can't be a higher
price than like a check or cash order. This was probably more relevant in the
days before onsite payments were required.

One thing I've questioned though is if it's just the verbiage.

So, in theory, a store could charge a 3.49% fee + 0.49 extra and call it an "admin
fee", "service fee", or "general fee", and be safe as long
as they didn't call it a "paypal fee".
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Not specifically. You can charge everyone the same rate regardless of payment
method though.

Speaking only for myself, I tend not to order from stores that nickle-and-dime
buyers on fees.
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  In Selling, Amazingly writes:
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Nope, fully against PayPal's terms and service in most countries. It was
changed pre-COVID but many stores, especially in Europe, try to do it. If you
find someone doing it, alert them to the rule and notify the BL staff as I think
it is against their rules as well.

Additionally, I believe the way the PP rule is written, if they specifically
state it is to cover PP fees or just fees, then it is against. If it is just
a fee that does not say that it is not specific, then it is allowable but cringe.
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Nope, fully against PayPal's terms and service in most countries. It was
changed pre-COVID but many stores, especially in Europe, try to do it. If you
find someone doing it, alert them to the rule and notify the BL staff as I think
it is against their rules as well.
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Can a store in the USA charge other stores in the USA for their PayPal fee?
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  In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  Greetings fellow Bricklink sellers,

I have moved into a new place with more space and looking to reorganize my sticker
lots. I am currently using an accordion style folder organizer, which has been
ok but I have too many stickers so it is not the most ideal.

I am curious what every one else is using to organize their stickers?

Regards,
Quinton

please do not follow this info
before you store stickers you MUST ALWAYS remember to use them to make sure that
they are still sticky, then you store them and list them as used

Dark humour only LEGO fans get.
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In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  Greetings fellow Bricklink sellers,

I have moved into a new place with more space and looking to reorganize my sticker
lots. I am currently using an accordion style folder organizer, which has been
ok but I have too many stickers so it is not the most ideal.

I am curious what every one else is using to organize their stickers?

Regards,
Quinton

please do not follow this info
before you store stickers you MUST ALWAYS remember to use them to make sure that
they are still sticky, then you store them and list them as used
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In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

Brilliant! Where do you get a folder like that?
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In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

That is a really good way of holding your stickers!! I especially like the fact
that you have several different stickers on each page. I am definitely going
to check into doing it that way.

Jim
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In Selling, AntsScurrying writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, AntsScurrying writes:
  I had a buyer send money to my paypal direct instead of through Bricklink.

How do I get the Vat and fees to Bricklink to show that the buyer has paid and
I can get a VAT invoice?


unfortunately you cant. the only way to do it is to refund the buyer and have
them pay onsite
(as bricklink collects the tax via a "partner fee" on the transaction).

Done, thank you.

How could they send you payment directly?!

I guess you use the same exact email address for your PayPal account that you
have on BL. This is the exact reason you should change your PayPal account email
address so this doesn't happen agian.
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, AntsScurrying writes:
  I had a buyer send money to my paypal direct instead of through Bricklink.

How do I get the Vat and fees to Bricklink to show that the buyer has paid and
I can get a VAT invoice?


unfortunately you cant. the only way to do it is to refund the buyer and have
them pay onsite
(as bricklink collects the tax via a "partner fee" on the transaction).

Done, thank you.
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, AntsScurrying writes:
  I had a buyer send money to my paypal direct instead of through Bricklink.

How do I get the Vat and fees to Bricklink to show that the buyer has paid and
I can get a VAT invoice?


unfortunately you cant. the only way to do it is to refund the buyer and have
them pay onsite
(as bricklink collects the tax via a "partner fee" on the transaction).
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I had a buyer send money to my paypal direct instead of through Bricklink.

How do I get the Vat and fees to Bricklink to show that the buyer has paid and
I can get a VAT invoice?
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In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

If they are small and fit in a drawer then go there as one lot more in the store,
else most go to a couple of CD drawers that have slim numbered plastic tabs,
and the bigger ones go to a binder folder and a half binder folder.
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In Selling, watch505 writes:
  Any sucessfully recieve their exemption?

Bricklink emailed a list of members two weeks ago allowing sellers to apply,

I responded with my sales tax certificate, they asked for an additional form
which I provided. Now its radio silence for a week and still no exemption.

I just went through the same process with Uline and it took an hour:/

I was one of the first to apply, took around a week.
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In Selling, Dhobeck writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

same here (tho I use a binder rather than zip ties). I also use it to store some
instructions, cloth parts, and similar items

Flat pizza?

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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

same here (tho I use a binder rather than zip ties). I also use it to store some
instructions, cloth parts, and similar items

Flat pizza?
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In Selling, rprebel writes:
  I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.

same here (tho I use a binder rather than zip ties). I also use it to store some
instructions, cloth parts, and similar items
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I use baseball card protector pages (9 slots to a page) for the smaller stickers
and other sizes for the larger ones. I just zip tied about a dozen of them together
as they're all the same overall 8.5x11 size with holes already in them. That
was 5 years ago and I'm still using it.
 
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For smaller stickers - I use 4x6 Photo Albums books - they only hold 24 stickers
in each book, but I seem to always find them on clearance. I usually take the
shelf box they are displayed in, which can hold 8-10 books in a very compact
space. My naming convention is very basic; "Book 01 pg 01" etc.

For larger stickers - I use 8.5x11 sheet protectors stored in fancy keepsake
boxes that were given to me (each is only 3 in high, so not taking up very much
space) - "Box 01" etc.

I tried using notebooks, but it is just as easy to flip through the sheet protectors.

I'm sure there are many other ideas, that is just what works for me.
Joe
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In Selling, Captain_Q writes:
  Greetings fellow Bricklink sellers,

I have moved into a new place with more space and looking to reorganize my sticker
lots. I am currently using an accordion style folder organizer, which has been
ok but I have too many stickers so it is not the most ideal.

I am curious what every one else is using to organize their stickers?

Regards,
Quinton

Would a folder with page protectors work? You could label each page with a remark
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Greetings fellow Bricklink sellers,

I have moved into a new place with more space and looking to reorganize my sticker
lots. I am currently using an accordion style folder organizer, which has been
ok but I have too many stickers so it is not the most ideal.

I am curious what every one else is using to organize their stickers?

Regards,
Quinton
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  Yes, I did, it took a bit over a week if I remember correctly.

Correction - it was six days from sending my documentation to getting approval.
But I sent mine in pretty early, so it could be that there are more documents
to wade through at the moment.

I've been through the process with eBay and Amazon before; I don't remember
how long the former took but Amazon took quite a long time and several attempts.
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In Selling, watch505 writes:
  Any sucessfully recieve their exemption?

Bricklink emailed a list of members two weeks ago allowing sellers to apply,

I responded with my sales tax certificate, they asked for an additional form
which I provided. Now its radio silence for a week and still no exemption.

I just went through the same process with Uline and it took an hour:/

Yes, I did, it took a bit over a week if I remember correctly.
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In Selling, peregrinator writes:
  In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  Tho that number dosnt seem available directly thru bricklink but probably could
be done with excel

Yes, there is a tax column if you download your orders.

This is what I ended up doing, manually copying the tax amount from the BL download
and subtracting it from the combined Stripe fee to get the actual Stripe fee
(EXPENSE).

A Paypal export of transactions separates the two numbers, so with Paypal i never
have to deal with the extra taxes Bricklink collects, I can ignore them, but
with Stripe I have to do extra calculations to strip away the collected tax,
just more chance of errors....
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Any sucessfully recieve their exemption?

Bricklink emailed a list of members two weeks ago allowing sellers to apply,

I responded with my sales tax certificate, they asked for an additional form
which I provided. Now its radio silence for a week and still no exemption.

I just went through the same process with Uline and it took an hour:/
 Author: Macaronis View Messages Posted By Macaronis
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In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
  In Selling, bram81 writes:
  Weirdest thing- it totally was resolved in less than an hour. The messages did
nothing apparently but bitching worked. Noted.

Well, I am going to be the very unpopular guy here -

Stores have a month to pay their fees. After that, BL can suspend the stores
in case of non-payment. What happens now is that store owners come on the forum
and complain about BL not opening up their store quickly enough after it was
closed. And above is a perfect example ("bitching worked".

Well, I say, leave the non-paying stores sit for a while and let them know they
will be reinstated in a week or so. If they can't be bothered to pay their
fees on time, the store operation is apparently not important enough. Opening
up a store right after a complaint is taking away from the deterrent of "your
store is going to be closed if you don't pay".

Niek.


You know maybe BL needs to start charging LATE FEE's....
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:

  
Now I can see the posts coming "BrickLink took me more than I owe!!!!!"


Come on... It's one or a couple of clicks to pay every month. People get
lazy nowadays!

No I get that, but the "penalties" for missing your payment seem absurd.


Hey you've got almost 2 freaking months to pay a bill.

I wish the other places were all so tolerant

Then if it's automatic, what if the payment doesn't go through (VISA
expired, not enough funds, too much spent...)

Really, 2 months is VERY cool and 2 clicks isn't a problem.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  For what it's worth, If a rouge bill for any service gets lost/forgotten,
a person isn't likely to notice their non-payment until the next month's
bill so a 10 day grace period is kind of worthless.

If they are actively selling, they shouldn't miss the warning notice when
they have overdue fees and log on. If they are not actively selling, it makes
no difference if they temporarily cannot sell.
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, 1001bricks writes:

  
Now I can see the posts coming "BrickLink took me more than I owe!!!!!"


Come on... It's one or a couple of clicks to pay every month. People get
lazy nowadays!

No I get that, but the "penalties" for missing your payment seem absurd.
Waiting a few weeks or needing to raise a stink on the forum to unlock your
store seems excessive. I didn't do a search but it seems like we see threads
like this at least once a month. Last year I closed up the store for a few months
so I could travel. I randomly logged in one day to check the value of a set
I saw and realized I had a bill for ~$10 that must have been from the 2 days
I happened to be open. Had I not paid it, my store would have been essentially
suspended indefinitely over a $10 fee.

If not automate the payment, automate the unlocking.

If you were closed and not actively logging on, a suspension wouldn't have
made any difference. The only difference would be if you wanted to open again
quickly.

I really cannot understand how anyone that is open and actively logging on to
process orders can miss making their fee payments.
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In Selling, TheBelgiumBrick writes:
  Hey everyone,

I've been thinking recently and I have come to the conclusion that I want
to sell a large part of my personal collection. One part of this collection includeds
a lot of older used sets, mostly ninjago and starwars. They are all mostly complete
but I don't know for sure, and I don't really have the time to check
every single one individualy. The seccond part of the collection are a lot of
minifigures, from a large variaty of themes, both new and used. How would I
best go about selling these?

Any tips would be appreciated.

Plastic toy bulk sell-offs in today's global economic environment? Sadly
the only tip I can offer, is to learn how to grab your ankles without pulling
a muscle I've tried and pretty much given up on any bulk sell-off which
doesn't involve that undesired position.
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In Selling, 1001bricks writes:

  
Now I can see the posts coming "BrickLink took me more than I owe!!!!!"


Come on... It's one or a couple of clicks to pay every month. People get
lazy nowadays!

No I get that, but the "penalties" for missing your payment seem absurd.
Waiting a few weeks or needing to raise a stink on the forum to unlock your
store seems excessive. I didn't do a search but it seems like we see threads
like this at least once a month. Last year I closed up the store for a few months
so I could travel. I randomly logged in one day to check the value of a set
I saw and realized I had a bill for ~$10 that must have been from the 2 days
I happened to be open. Had I not paid it, my store would have been essentially
suspended indefinitely over a $10 fee.

If not automate the payment, automate the unlocking.
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, zorbanj writes:

  I pay the BL fees as soon as I receive the bill to avoid dealing with this Help
Desk netherworld. However, if the fee is paid the store should be re-opened asap.
If BL wants to charge a late fee or interest that's fine but deliberately
keeping a store closed is petty.

Why isn't this automated?

Until recently, there was indirect payment allowed.


  Seems like there
should be a radio button in my settings to allow BL to automatically bill paypal
or something.

Now I can see the posts coming "BrickLink took me more than I owe!!!!!"


Come on... It's one or a couple of clicks to pay every month. People get
lazy nowadays!
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In Selling, Ziegelmeister writes:
  In Selling, zorbanj writes:

  I pay the BL fees as soon as I receive the bill to avoid dealing with this Help
Desk netherworld. However, if the fee is paid the store should be re-opened asap.
If BL wants to charge a late fee or interest that's fine but deliberately
keeping a store closed is petty.

Why isn't this automated? Both payment and unlocking. Seems like there
should be a radio button in my settings to allow BL to automatically bill paypal
or something.

That would make a very good "suggestion" post
 Author: Ziegelmeister View Messages Posted By Ziegelmeister
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In Selling, zorbanj writes:

  I pay the BL fees as soon as I receive the bill to avoid dealing with this Help
Desk netherworld. However, if the fee is paid the store should be re-opened asap.
If BL wants to charge a late fee or interest that's fine but deliberately
keeping a store closed is petty.

Why isn't this automated? Both payment and unlocking. Seems like there
should be a radio button in my settings to allow BL to automatically bill paypal
or something.
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In Selling, zorbanj writes:
  In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
  
Well, I say, leave the non-paying stores sit for a while and let them know they
will be reinstated in a week or so. If they can't be bothered to pay their
fees on time, the store operation is apparently not important enough. Opening
up a store right after a complaint is taking away from the deterrent of "your
store is going to be closed if you don't pay".


I pay the BL fees as soon as I receive the bill to avoid dealing with this Help Desk netherworld.

And so, you're motivated then? Funny, I pay my fees owed in a timely manner
to "avoid dealing" with my conscience.

  However, if the fee is paid the store should be re-opened asap.

As quickly as BL waited for their very fair fees owed?

  If BL wants to charge a late fee or interest that's fine

Makes sense, at least to cover the additional personnel hours needed to manage
the opening and closing of these delinquent stores.

  but deliberately keeping a store closed is petty.

Not deliberately keeping a store closed, simply given lower priority while
other matters of the site are handled.
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In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
  In Selling, bram81 writes:
  Weirdest thing- it totally was resolved in less than an hour. The messages did
nothing apparently but bitching worked. Noted.

Well, I am going to be the very unpopular guy here -

Stores have a month to pay their fees. After that, BL can suspend the stores
in case of non-payment. What happens now is that store owners come on the forum
and complain about BL not opening up their store quickly enough after it was
closed. And above is a perfect example ("bitching worked".

Well, I say, leave the non-paying stores sit for a while and let them know they
will be reinstated in a week or so. If they can't be bothered to pay their
fees on time, the store operation is apparently not important enough. Opening
up a store right after a complaint is taking away from the deterrent of "your
store is going to be closed if you don't pay".

Niek.

+1
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In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
  In Selling, bram81 writes:
  Weirdest thing- it totally was resolved in less than an hour. The messages did
nothing apparently but bitching worked. Noted.

Well, I am going to be the very unpopular guy here -

Stores have a month to pay their fees. After that, BL can suspend the stores
in case of non-payment. What happens now is that store owners come on the forum
and complain about BL not opening up their store quickly enough after it was
closed. And above is a perfect example ("bitching worked".

Well, I say, leave the non-paying stores sit for a while and let them know they
will be reinstated in a week or so. If they can't be bothered to pay their
fees on time, the store operation is apparently not important enough. Opening
up a store right after a complaint is taking away from the deterrent of "your
store is going to be closed if you don't pay".

Niek.



I agree with you to an extent, but I think If this making non-paying store "sit
for a while", is the method they want to run with, then bricklink needs to
amend their seller terms:

Non-Payment of Fees: Sellers who do not pay the fees due by the end of the
grace period will have their selling privileges revoked. Any Seller account with
an overdue balance will receive a reminder on or shortly after the due date.
The revocation of selling privileges for overdue fees will be automatically
reinstated once payment
in full is received by us. The account may be terminated
if at least 1 more month has passed from the time selling privileges were revoked
for non-payment of fees and payment has still not been made. If an amount has
been overdue for 2 months, however, you will need to contact Customer Support
to get your selling privileges for your store reinstated once payment is submitted.


Bold portion should say something like: privileges will be reinstated within
a few weeks once payment is received


Whole thing reads weird, too. So you're account MAY be terminated after 1
month, but if it's been more than 2 months, you need to contact Customer
Support? What could they do if your account had already been terminated a full
month ago?

For what it's worth, If a rouge bill for any service gets lost/forgotten,
a person isn't likely to notice their non-payment until the next month's
bill so a 10 day grace period is kind of worthless.

I'm glad my internet provider, mortgage, and other service providers give
a grace period more than 10 days with/without a small late fee instead of just
shutting the service off 10 days after the due date. They all have better terms
though because they all have a lot of competition.

I guess these are the seller terms we agree to in order to sell, even if they
are poorly designed and written. Bricklink can get away with it for now by being
the best place to sell lego online (imo).
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In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
  
Well, I say, leave the non-paying stores sit for a while and let them know they
will be reinstated in a week or so. If they can't be bothered to pay their
fees on time, the store operation is apparently not important enough. Opening
up a store right after a complaint is taking away from the deterrent of "your
store is going to be closed if you don't pay".


I pay the BL fees as soon as I receive the bill to avoid dealing with this Help
Desk netherworld. However, if the fee is paid the store should be re-opened asap.
If BL wants to charge a late fee or interest that's fine but deliberately
keeping a store closed is petty.
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In Selling, qwertyboy writes:
  In Selling, bram81 writes:
  Weirdest thing- it totally was resolved in less than an hour. The messages did
nothing apparently but bitching worked. Noted.

Well, I am going to be the very unpopular guy here -

What I've always admired about you Niek; you seem to worry less about being
"the unpopular guy" than in not telling it like you see it

  
Stores have a month to pay their fees. After that, BL can suspend the stores
in case of non-payment. What happens now is that store owners come on the forum
and complain about BL not opening up their store quickly enough after it was
closed. And above is a perfect example ("bitching worked".

Well, I say, leave the non-paying stores sit for a while and let them know they
will be reinstated in a week or so. If they can't be bothered to pay their
fees on time, the store operation is apparently not important enough. Opening
up a store right after a complaint is taking away from the deterrent of "your
store is going to be closed if you don't pay".

Agreed. And yet another action promoting wrong motivation
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In Selling, TheBelgiumBrick writes:
  Hey everyone,

I've been thinking recently and I have come to the conclusion that I want
to sell a large part of my personal collection. One part of this collection includeds
a lot of older used sets, mostly ninjago and starwars. They are all mostly complete
but I don't know for sure, and I don't really have the time to check
every single one individualy. The seccond part of the collection are a lot of
minifigures, from a large variaty of themes, both new and used. How would I
best go about selling these?

Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Bulk lot on Facebook or a similar local narketplace. Describe as 95% complete
or a reasonable estimate for the sets. Check the figures are in each though.
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Hey everyone,

I've been thinking recently and I have come to the conclusion that I want
to sell a large part of my personal collection. One part of this collection includeds
a lot of older used sets, mostly ninjago and starwars. They are all mostly complete
but I don't know for sure, and I don't really have the time to check
every single one individualy. The seccond part of the collection are a lot of
minifigures, from a large variaty of themes, both new and used. How would I
best go about selling these?

Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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In Selling, bram81 writes:
  Weirdest thing- it totally was resolved in less than an hour. The messages did
nothing apparently but bitching worked. Noted.

Well, I am going to be the very unpopular guy here -

Stores have a month to pay their fees. After that, BL can suspend the stores
in case of non-payment. What happens now is that store owners come on the forum
and complain about BL not opening up their store quickly enough after it was
closed. And above is a perfect example ("bitching worked".

Well, I say, leave the non-paying stores sit for a while and let them know they
will be reinstated in a week or so. If they can't be bothered to pay their
fees on time, the store operation is apparently not important enough. Opening
up a store right after a complaint is taking away from the deterrent of "your
store is going to be closed if you don't pay".

Niek.
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In Selling, bram81 writes:
  Weirdest thing- it totally was resolved in less than an hour. The messages did
nothing apparently but bitching worked. Noted.

As the saying goes; "The squeaky wheel gets the grease"
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Weirdest thing- it totally was resolved in less than an hour. The messages did
nothing apparently but bitching worked. Noted.


In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  It seems the best way to handle this is to complain about it in the forum. Every
time someone makes such a post it appears to be resolved in under an hour whereas
nothing appears to happen for weeks if the suspended seller contacts the help
desk.

It is a very messed up customer service system.
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  It seems the best way to handle this is to complain about it in the forum. Every
time someone makes such a post it appears to be resolved in under an hour whereas
nothing appears to happen for weeks if the suspended seller contacts the help
desk.

It is a very messed up customer service system.

[read in youtube "honest trailers" voice]

One seller.... once chance to save the world...
Get ready for the summer 2024 blockbuster event coming to a theater near you!

"The great help-desk workaround."
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In Selling, jennnifer writes:
  In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  It seems the best way to handle this is to complain about it in the forum. Every
time someone makes such a post it appears to be resolved in under an hour whereas
nothing appears to happen for weeks if the suspended seller contacts the help
desk.

It is a very messed up customer service system.

Agreed! There is definitely a major disconnect between them saying: We are all
caught up! and the near daily reports of unresponsiveness from them by established
buyers and sellers here. Good customer service would take into account how things
appear from their user's viewpoint.

~Jen

It is only some tickets that are missed
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1466325
"Did you receive a confirmation of your Help desk inquiry with a ticket number?
We are seeing evidence recently that some tickets are not getting through."
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In Selling, yorbrick writes:
  It seems the best way to handle this is to complain about it in the forum. Every
time someone makes such a post it appears to be resolved in under an hour whereas
nothing appears to happen for weeks if the suspended seller contacts the help
desk.

It is a very messed up customer service system.

Agreed! There is definitely a major disconnect between them saying: We are all
caught up! and the near daily reports of unresponsiveness from them by established
buyers and sellers here. Good customer service would take into account how things
appear from their user's viewpoint.

~Jen
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 Subject: Re: Stripe fee and BL tax not shown separate
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In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
  Tho that number dosnt seem available directly thru bricklink but probably could
be done with excel

Yes, there is a tax column if you download your orders.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Apr 30, 2024 05:32
 Subject: Re: Stripe fee and BL tax not shown separate
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In Selling, samsam2 writes:
  When i run an end of year report on Stripe and I look at a transaction where
Bricklink has also collected taxes, the fee amount shown consists of both the
Stripe fee and the Bricklink collected taxes. I just want to know the Stripe
fee? Is there an easy way to do this that I'm missing? Nubs?

Isn't the Stripe fee a fixed % ?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Apr 30, 2024 04:43
 Subject: Re: Store suspension after payment of fees
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It seems the best way to handle this is to complain about it in the forum. Every
time someone makes such a post it appears to be resolved in under an hour whereas
nothing appears to happen for weeks if the suspended seller contacts the help
desk.

It is a very messed up customer service system.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Apr 30, 2024 03:32
 Subject: Re: Store suspension after payment of fees
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Looks like your good to go now 🍕
 Author: Vosblokjes View Messages Posted By Vosblokjes
 Posted: Apr 30, 2024 03:32
 Subject: Re: Store suspension after payment of fees
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In Selling, bram81 writes:
  I am unsure what to do- I have sent multiple messages to the bricklink help desk
over the past weeks but they just seem to go into the ether with no acknowledgement
and no answer. I was late paying my store fees and only notcied when my store
was suspended (this is NOT my profession, just a hobby thus I dont check these
things very often). I piad the fees immediately yet STILL my store is suspended.
According to Bricklink's own rules, the suspension should be immediately
lifted when the past due is paid. I have no idea what to do here as I get no
reply from BL. I never expected such terrible service from a Lego entity. Rather
disappointing. Oh fair community of brickers, any suggestions???

Store looks open now
 Author: bram81 View Messages Posted By bram81
 Posted: Apr 30, 2024 03:22
 Subject: Store suspension after payment of fees
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I am unsure what to do- I have sent multiple messages to the bricklink help desk
over the past weeks but they just seem to go into the ether with no acknowledgement
and no answer. I was late paying my store fees and only notcied when my store
was suspended (this is NOT my profession, just a hobby thus I dont check these
things very often). I piad the fees immediately yet STILL my store is suspended.
According to Bricklink's own rules, the suspension should be immediately
lifted when the past due is paid. I have no idea what to do here as I get no
reply from BL. I never expected such terrible service from a Lego entity. Rather
disappointing. Oh fair community of brickers, any suggestions???

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