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In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

In Suggestions, UTLF writes:

Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?

Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.

Lego owns Bricklink, and Bricklink is strictly third-party sellers; the site
would die and Lego would lose money on their investment & whatnot

If you want to source parts from PAB and Bricklink, use BrickHunter, a Chrome
extension that lets you upload a wanted list & auto-selects parts from PAB and
shows what you would need to get from Bricklink if parts are unavailable or retired

Yes, BH is amazing, and I often use it. But it adds another layer of complexity
and another step in the process.

Ever order from PAB? Enjoy your bricks 2-3 months later.

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Apr 16, 2024 23:52

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Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores

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In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:

In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:

In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?

(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)

since bricklink is specifically for 3rd party sellers, not lego themselves. if
lego came over to bricklink and started ramping up then most stores on bricklink
would have to close down as they cant compete with lego if they are on the same
site which would then just end up making bricklink a reskinned PAB.

cool pizza flag

pizza!

Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?

since they make up a good chunk of Lego's revenue. 3rd party sellers buy
from lego and then do lots of work which if lego themselves did and paid employees
minimum wage they probably couldn't make it profitable so with the current
setup all parties involved benefit. Also it seems lego is pursuing this route
as there have been surveys from lego and bricklink trying to improve the lego-reseller
connection.

Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.

To a point but if lego started selling lots on bricklink then a good chunk of
sales would move to them and then the stores that could offer said parts would
have most of their stock not moving since lego takes that and then they probably
wouldn't bother with selling the few parts that lego doesn't sell as
sales would be significantly lower and make it not profitable for many

pardon my ignorance (I'm an AFOL newbie), but could you explain this a little?
what work?

Listing and pulling orders is usually extremely work intensive in comparison
to profit.

Author:

ej76az

Posted:

Apr 16, 2024 23:40

Subject:

Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores

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In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:

In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:

In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

cool pizza flag

pizza!

Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?

Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.

pardon my ignorance (I'm an AFOL newbie), but could you explain this a little?
what work?

3rd party sellers... do lots of work which if lego themselves did and paid employees

Author:

ej76az

Posted:

Apr 16, 2024 23:33

Subject:

Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores

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In Suggestions, UTLF writes:

Yes, BH is amazing, and I often use it. But it adds another layer of complexity
and another step in the process.

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Apr 16, 2024 22:54

Subject:

Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores

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In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:

In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

cool pizza flag

pizza!

Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?

Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.

Author:

ej76az

Posted:

Apr 16, 2024 22:48

Subject:

Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores

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In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:

In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

cool pizza flag

Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?

Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Apr 16, 2024 22:42

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Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores

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In Suggestions, ej76az writes:

Author:

ej76az

Posted:

Apr 16, 2024 22:35

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add LEGO PaB website to stores

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Status:

Open

Vote:

[Yes|No]

Author:

Hal8472

Posted:

Apr 8, 2024 14:17

Subject:

Re: New filter based on % off

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In Suggestions, TheHatter13 writes:

I have seen a lot of sellers offer multiple different discounts. It would be
nice to have a filter that you can choose the discounts you want to see instead
of just all sales. Like if a shop has different sale percentages at 10, 25, 30,
50 and 75 percent off you could filter for everything above 50%.

This is a comparison to a created number. There are no sales on bricklink.
Just different prices.

Author:

infinibrix

Posted:

Apr 6, 2024 11:49

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

[…]

I've definitely had buyers leave feedback before they even received their
orders - rare, but it happens.

Yes but this example just illustrates someone not using the system properly and
I'm pretty sure we don't require a system built around a one off user
not using the system correctly?

A system shouldn’t allow its users to use it incorrectly.
(That includes sellers marking orders complete

)

And your point? Removing the Completed option would solve this issue at the same
time?
Besides which as a Seller I have never marked an order as Complete! Once I mark
the order status as 'Shipped' I then leave the customer alone to change
the status from there on in

“You’re holding wrong” is a registred trademark. BrickLink is too cheap to use
it.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Apr 6, 2024 11:19

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Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

[…]

I've definitely had buyers leave feedback before they even received their
orders - rare, but it happens.

Yes but this example just illustrates someone not using the system properly and
I'm pretty sure we don't require a system built around a one off user
not using the system correctly?

A system shouldn’t allow its users to use it incorrectly.
(That includes sellers marking orders complete

)

“You’re holding wrong” is a registred trademark. BrickLink is too cheap to use
it.

I can imagine the feedback they left was interesting....

"Great Seller, Order is on its way and it will arrive in good time and be
absolutely perfect!"

Have you read the feedback left on other plateforms? It’s sometimes worse than
that.

Author:

infinibrix

Posted:

Apr 6, 2024 10:53

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Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, peregrinator writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

I cannot think of a single situation where a buyer would leave feedback if they
didn't consider the order completed? Presumably they leave feedback when
they've either received goods and are happy (Order Completed) or they leave
negative/neutral feedback because they are unhappy with the sellers lack of resolve
(Order Completed)

On other platforms like ebay there is no Completed status because feedback alone
defines the orders status and rounds up the overall transaction as complete!

I've definitely had buyers leave feedback before they even received their
orders - rare, but it happens.

Yes but this example just illustrates someone not using the system properly and
I'm pretty sure we don't require a system built around a one off user
not using the system correctly?
I can imagine the feedback they left was interesting....

"Great Seller, Order is on its way and it will arrive in good time and be
absolutely perfect!"

I don't know if one can do the same on eBay
(it seems one can click the "Leave Feedback" button but I don't know
if the form can be submitted), but in any case, since eBay also tracks orders,
I imagine the order isn't complete until the buyer has received it (I don't
know what happens in cases where the order can't be tracked).

I think if the buyer marks the order as "Received" and then leaves positive
feedback the order should automatically complete. Maybe when the buyer leaves
any kind of feedback? Not sure about that last part.

The way I see it the very final option in the dropdown should be 'Received'
with no need for a 'Completed' option. The buyer essentially completes
their order by leaving feedback!

i.e they mark as received and then leave feedback once they are happy with their
order or if they are unhappy with their order they mark as received, message
seller for a resolution, wait for issue to be resolved(or not resolved) and then
leave appropriate feedback. By leaving feedback the buyer is finished with that
order and it is essentially complete

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Apr 6, 2024 06:43

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Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

I've definitely had buyers leave feedback before they even received their
orders - rare, but it happens. I don't know if one can do the same on eBay
(it seems one can click the "Leave Feedback" button but I don't know
if the form can be submitted), but in any case, since eBay also tracks orders,
I imagine the order isn't complete until the buyer has received it (I don't
know what happens in cases where the order can't be tracked).

I think if the buyer marks the order as "Received" and then leaves positive
feedback the order should automatically complete. Maybe when the buyer leaves
any kind of feedback? Not sure about that last part.

Author:

infinibrix

Posted:

Apr 6, 2024 06:30

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, popsicle writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.

It doesn't mean your original statement makes any more sense either?

Kind of, re-read "while it wasn't meant" as "while it could haven't
been meant".

But who cares, the fact is there's no / not always relationship between feedback
and status.

I mean apart if everything's rewritten, like status, feedbacks, alerts...

But as of right now, a quick and easy way to straighten things would be to:

* redefine the Completed status in Help,

* or make seller not able to set the order to Completed.

Right now we're discussing in vain because it's one of the points where
BrickLink doesn't work or can't be used as described

I'm off this subject, sorry.

That's okay I can round-up things then....

Basically a buyer doesn't leave feedback until they consider the order completed
thereby making the status of 'Completed' obsolete

I cannot think of a single situation where a buyer would leave feedback if they
didn't consider the order completed? Presumably they leave feedback when
they've either received goods and are happy (Order Completed) or they leave
negative/neutral feedback because they are unhappy with the sellers lack of resolve
(Order Completed)

On other platforms like ebay there is no Completed status because feedback alone
defines the orders status and rounds up the overall transaction as complete!

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 21:10

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, popsicle writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.

It doesn't mean your original statement makes any more sense either?

I'm off this subject, sorry.

Author:

infinibrix

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 20:48

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, popsicle writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.

It doesn't mean your original statement makes any more sense either?

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 20:16

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, popsicle writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

See Help page of definition of Status Completed.

A positive feedback doesn't mean the order is completed.

I've come to the conclusion that you are the type of person who just likes
to disagree for the sake of disagreeing only your counter arguments rarely ever
seem to have any substance or make any sense?

Mom told me not to talk to trolls. Should have listen to her more.

Author:

infinibrix

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 19:44

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Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, 1001bricks writes:

In Suggestions, popsicle writes:

In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:

As a side note I wonder whether status should auto set to complete once buyer
has left feedback or certainly after both buyer and seller have left feedback

Sensible. Put it forward as a Suggestion post, I say.

Abolutely not please.

Buyer also can be too kind and post immediately a positive feedback when having
paid, or even before!

This would close the order as "Completed" while it wasn't meant

If the buyer has left feedback prior to item being received/shipped then that
would be a bit silly and they are in no better position regardless of whether
the order has been completed or not!

I've come to the conclusion that you are the type of person who just likes
to disagree for the sake of disagreeing only your counter arguments rarely ever
seem to have any substance or make any sense?

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 15:22

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

There is a reason sellers might want to set an order to complete.

If you want to delete an old shipping method, you cannot if there is an open
order using that method

There's also NO reason to immediately delete a shipping method.

Simply disable it and forget it, delete it later on - it won't be shown in
your shop while disabled.

In short, there is still no reason a seller would set Completed an order

Sure there are work arounds to solve a problem. But if a seller wants to remove
a method, they cannot

We don't care.

The discussion is about: why a Seller would be able to set Completed.

Final argument being for me that this doesn't comply with the Completed status:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462312

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 15:04

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Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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There is a reason sellers might want to set an order to complete.

If you want to delete an old shipping method, you cannot if there is an open
order using that method

Sure there are work arounds to solve a problem. But if a seller wants to remove
a method, they cannot and are warned it is because there are open orders (even
if they are filed). Hence they can be tempted to complete ones that are already
months old.

There is also the issue that store wide minimum orders take into account any
disabled methods. So if you have multiple redundant methods that are disabled
you still have to edit every one of them if you want to raise the store minimum,
even though they cannot be used by a buyer. Of course, this is not the buyer's
fault (or care), just dodgy programming blocking changes.

It also seems strange that you cannot delete a shipping method while an order
is open, but you can change all the variable parameters in that method.

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 13:34

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

In Suggestions, MMillere writes:

Since sellers are NOT supposed to set orders to Complete.....

Can we make it so they can't?

Because when a seller does it by mistake, we can not send a ship notice thru
the system

Thanx

Milissa

There is a reason sellers might want to set an order to complete.

If you want to delete an old shipping method, you cannot if there is an open
order using that method

Author:

1001bricks

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 13:29

Subject:

Re: Connect Wanted List to My Collection

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In Suggestions, TheHatter13 writes:

I asked this same thing previously but it is kind of a manual process that I
chose. You can use the apply order in the Wat list at the top but if you have
2 orders with the same part you can accidently apply some parts twice if you
are not careful.

I ended up using BrickStore which is a free program that connects to Bricklink.
I download my orders and then sort by part number. Once I have this I go to the
Search in the Want List menu and search for that part. Then, I can compare the
numbers and update the have quantities.

Great move!

Author:

Nubs_Select

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 13:05

Subject:

Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

In Suggestions, MMillere writes:

Since sellers are NOT supposed to set orders to Complete.....

Can we make it so they can't?

Because when a seller does it by mistake, we can not send a ship notice thru
the system

Thanx

Milissa

There is a reason sellers might want to set an order to complete.

If you want to delete an old shipping method, you cannot if there is an open
order using that method, even if it was delivered months ago and feedback left.
Obviously you can disable the shipping method, change the name if it conflicts
with another name, set the minimum order value for that shipping method to 9999
if it conflicts with a change in the store minimum order value, but all that
is a faff just because someone hasn't marked an order as complete.

Like you mentioned you can simply choose disable and it will be off and then
in 6-months you can delete it. Plus that way your guaranteed not to potentially
cause issues to the buyer

Author:

yorbrick

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 12:50

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Re: Setting Orders to Complete!

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In Suggestions, MMillere writes:

Since sellers are NOT supposed to set orders to Complete.....

Can we make it so they can't?

Because when a seller does it by mistake, we can not send a ship notice thru
the system

Thanx

Milissa

Author:

TheHatter13

Posted:

Apr 5, 2024 06:14

Subject:

Re: Connect Wanted List to My Collection

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