| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | SeaBRICKLin_213  | | Posted: | Jan 2, 2024 20:15 | | Subject: | Re: Update on November 3rd incident | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, A_Chicken writes:
For real dude. This forum may be too cringy.
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| Author: | CE_Anastasia | | Posted: | Dec 28, 2023 13:25 | | Subject: | New VAT rates for Estonia and Luxembourg | | Viewed: | 224 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| Dear BrickLink members,
On January 1st, 2024, VAT rates for Estonia and Luxembourg will be changed from
20% to 22% and from 16% to 17% respectively. Sellers from these countries will
see new rates in their Store Settings immediately after the switch and on their
Fees pages at the end of the billing cycle.
The BrickLink Team
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 14:34 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 90 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| | | | | Oh OK then. Fair for the customer. But then the MarketPlace should communicate
with the seller, ensure they're educated on this subject, and in some cases
close the shop if they've to refund abnormally often. More Administration
rules to set up and tasks involved... Prettu complex IMO.
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“I’m keeping your money because it’s too complicated for me to do more than what
I should do which is just to take that proof from Customs you gave me and refund
you.”
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Oh - it'd not be the first time they're late on something; see the Canadian
taxes, the markup margin taxation, and some buyer complained yesterday saying
he's not taxable 
I meant, for now instead of waiting for BrickLink, it could be instead the Seller
role to refund the double taxation, especially if he didn't respected or
applied the due procedure.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 14:23 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
Oh OK then. Fair for the customer. But then the MarketPlace should communicate
with the seller, ensure they're educated on this subject, and in some cases
close the shop if they've to refund abnormally often. More Administration
rules to set up and tasks involved... Prettu complex IMO.
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“I’m keeping your money because it’s too complicated for me to do more than what
I should do which is just to take that proof from Customs you gave me and refund
you.”
Besides, it’s not really fair to the customer: you buy €100, you pay +€20 of
VAT to the marketplace, and then €24 of VAT to customs (+ brokerage fee), and
you get refunded €20 by the marketplace.
You are still out €4 + the fee.
Better than being out €24 + the fee but not exactly fair.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 13:49 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
Sure:
If a customer has been charged import VAT, then the supplier should refund
the customer the VAT that was charged at the point of supply.
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“The solution allows sellers or deemed supplier marketplaces to reclaim
in subsequent IOSS returns any import VAT incorrectly charged by Customs.”
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Oh OK then. Fair for the customer. But then the MarketPlace should communicate
with the seller, ensure they're educated on this subject, and in some cases
close the shop if they've to refund abnormally often. More Administration
rules to set up and tasks involved... Prettu complex IMO.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 13:40 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
Sure:
If a customer has been charged import VAT, then the supplier should refund
the customer the VAT that was charged at the point of supply.
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“The solution allows sellers or deemed supplier marketplaces to reclaim
in subsequent IOSS returns any import VAT incorrectly charged by Customs.”
| | Problem is, it can't apply to a Marketplace. The Marketplace collects VAT
but the supplier is the seller, the Shop.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 13:33 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
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| | Yes, it should be the same for EU import VAT. But BrickLink doesn’t do it 😤
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But it can't be BrickLink concern: they don't process the shipping and
apply the proper stickers / invoice, so they've no idea if the seller did
it well or not. In this case, why would they refund on an assumption? Sorry.
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That’s the solution approved by the EU council.
Reference: https://www.grantthornton.nl/en/insights-en/topics/vat/eu-solutions-to-ioss-problems-approved/
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Sure:
If a customer has been charged import VAT, then the supplier should refund
the customer the VAT that was charged at the point of supply.
Problem is, it can't apply to a Marketplace. The Marketplace collects VAT
but the supplier is the seller, the Shop.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
| | Yes, it should be the same for EU import VAT. But BrickLink doesn’t do it 😤
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But it can't be BrickLink concern: they don't process the shipping and
apply the proper stickers / invoice, so they've no idea if the seller did
it well or not. In this case, why would they refund on an assumption? Sorry.
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That’s the solution approved by the EU council.
Reference: https://www.grantthornton.nl/en/insights-en/topics/vat/eu-solutions-to-ioss-problems-approved/
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 13:21 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Administrative, braten1 writes:
| | The same happend to me on my first order after the new system, seller forgot,
and did not write VIEC number on the outside.
The cost for handling at the post office you wont get refunded, but it should
be Bricklink's task to refund the taxes if you got proof of payment. It have
happen me a few times on ebay and its really easy to get them to refund taxes
as long as you have a copy of the recipt for paying taxes at Norwegian post office.
Norwegian post office on the other hand would never refund you as long as its
not possible to read VOEC number on the package some wear.
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Yes, it should be the same for EU import VAT. But BrickLink doesn’t do it 😤
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But it can't be BrickLink concern: they don't process the shipping and
apply the proper stickers / invoice, so they've no idea if the seller did
it well or not. In this case, why would they refund on an assumption? Sorry.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 22, 2023 09:24 | | Subject: | Re: Norway Tax Implementation | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Administrative | |
| In Administrative, braten1 writes:
| | The same happend to me on my first order after the new system, seller forgot,
and did not write VIEC number on the outside.
The cost for handling at the post office you wont get refunded, but it should
be Bricklink's task to refund the taxes if you got proof of payment. It have
happen me a few times on ebay and its really easy to get them to refund taxes
as long as you have a copy of the recipt for paying taxes at Norwegian post office.
Norwegian post office on the other hand would never refund you as long as its
not possible to read VOEC number on the package some wear.
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Yes, it should be the same for EU import VAT. But BrickLink doesn’t do it 😤
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