Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Nubs_Select  | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 12:41 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, peregrinator writes:
| | In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Off Topic, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | Rationalize it all you want.
Just.
Fix.
It.
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FYI, discussions moderators are members, like you.
If if there were a technical solution (which there isn’t), neither Roo nor I
nor the others mods can change the forum’s code.
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I'm going to go against the grain here and say that while the spam is annoying,
it's not something that I think is a critical issue. I see 1-2 spam messages
per day, they're obvious spam, I can just scroll on by. Compared to the amount
of spam I see in my emails every day, this is nothing.
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+1 it isn’t a major issue the only times it has been is when someone did this
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts 
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What about maybe if a post contains more then 1 url it has to be moderated before
it can be posted?
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Um. The other catalog admins and I post multiple links in our messages a lot
of the time. We don't need our posts moderated.
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| Author: | Chickaroo | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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What about maybe if a post contains more then 1 url it has to be moderated before
it can be posted?
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Can the same rule apply to emojis?
Roo
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 12:35 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| | | Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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What about maybe if a post contains more then 1 url it has to be moderated before
it can be posted?
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 12:05 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
| | If if there were a technical solution (which there isn’t)
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I'm not so sure about that - for example, you could have a keyword filter
that only gets triggered if the post includes a link.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 11:38 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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Yes, this requires a 15 years learning "curve" 
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So, you’re 3 years late?
| | A report button, BrickLink?
That'd be soooo complicated to develop, I must admit - please don't touch
anything.
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It’s even more complicated to report problems on the Gallery (which is supposedly
not spaghetti code).
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 11:11 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| | | Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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Yes, this requires a 15 years learning "curve"
A report button, BrickLink?
That'd be soooo complicated to develop, I must admit - please don't touch
anything.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 11:08 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| | | Some suggestions:
1. Ban Nubs_Select, 1001bricks, and SylvainLS from the forum. That alone will
reduce spam by 17.4%
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Agreed about one of the Sylvains...
But you forgot BrickOfFaith, wildchicken13 and UTLF; they post less but it's
then far more spammy IMHO
Thanks for the laugh, pal!
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| Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 10:56 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, BricksOfFaith writes:
| | Anybody know why there has been so many spam messages/scams on the forum the
past few months? It’s getting kinda irritating….
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I like spam. That is how I found my three girlfriends. I have not met them
yet, but they keep asking for plane tickets to get to El Paso. I send the tickets
and no one shows up and they all said it was the airlines fault. So I am ready
to send them cash so they can buy their tickets.
John P
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 10:36 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, Stellar writes:
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| | This depends on your default settings: with ‘Compact’ or ‘Brief’, the spam
is easy to ignore, with ‘All’ or ‘Full’ you’ll see them… but then I’m not sure
there’s people reading the forum like that 
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I do, but probably not many more... 
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Well, it takes everything to make a world
(Besides, what’s the default setting?)
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| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 10:24 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Off Topic, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
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| | Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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It would be easier if there were a report post option along with View/Cancel/Reply
on the forum rather than having to go through the problem centre and dig out
the message number.
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Yes.
| | It's easier to just ignore the spam and move on rather than report the user.
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This depends on your default settings: with ‘Compact’ or ‘Brief’, the spam
is easy to ignore, with ‘All’ or ‘Full’ you’ll see them… but then I’m not sure
there’s people reading the forum like that
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I do, but probably not many more...
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 08:20 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
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| | Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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It would be easier if there were a report post option along with View/Cancel/Reply
on the forum rather than having to go through the problem centre and dig out
the message number.
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Yes.
| | It's easier to just ignore the spam and move on rather than report the user.
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This depends on your default settings: with ‘Compact’ or ‘Brief’, the spam
is easy to ignore, with ‘All’ or ‘Full’ you’ll see them… but then I’m not sure
there’s people reading the forum like that
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 07:01 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Off Topic, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | Rationalize it all you want.
Just.
Fix.
It.
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FYI, discussions moderators are members, like you.
If if there were a technical solution (which there isn’t), neither Roo nor I
nor the others mods can change the forum’s code.
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I'm going to go against the grain here and say that while the spam is annoying,
it's not something that I think is a critical issue. I see 1-2 spam messages
per day, they're obvious spam, I can just scroll on by. Compared to the amount
of spam I see in my emails every day, this is nothing.
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| Author: | WhiteHorseMatt | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 06:50 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Off Topic, Chickaroo writes:
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Most other forums I’ve ever been a member of suffer from similar problems
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+1
Hmm, there used to be a “Why your antispam idea won’t work” checklist for e-mail.
We need one for forums
So, to answer a few suggestions:
— Preventing newbies from asking questions on the forum is not very welcoming,
is it?
— Limiting newbies’ number of posts: most spammers only post once per account
anyway.
— The two previous ideas are worse when “newbie” is defined by feedback instead
of time.
— Captcha: most spammers here are human.
— Location filtering: nope, won’t do.
— Keyword filtering: I want to be able to talk about gummy bears and the new
Ford Escort set!
Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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It would be easier if there were a report post option along with View/Cancel/Reply
on the forum rather than having to go through the problem centre and dig out
the message number.
It's easier to just ignore the spam and move on rather than report the user.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 05:14 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | Rationalize it all you want.
Just.
Fix.
It.
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FYI, discussions moderators are members, like you.
If if there were a technical solution (which there isn’t), neither Roo nor I
nor the others mods can change the forum’s code.
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| Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 05:05 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| Rationalize it all you want.
Just.
Fix.
It.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 03:10 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, Chickaroo writes:
| | […]
Most other forums I’ve ever been a member of suffer from similar problems
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+1
Hmm, there used to be a “Why your antispam idea won’t work” checklist for e-mail.
We need one for forums
So, to answer a few suggestions:
— Preventing newbies from asking questions on the forum is not very welcoming,
is it?
— Limiting newbies’ number of posts: most spammers only post once per account
anyway.
— The two previous ideas are worse when “newbie” is defined by feedback instead
of time.
— Captcha: most spammers here are human.
— Location filtering: nope, won’t do.
— Keyword filtering: I want to be able to talk about gummy bears and the new
Ford Escort set!
Silver lining: (most) forum regulars have now learned how to report posts
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 02:20 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| | | I think there’s more chance of people being convinced to buy pizza than these
spam posts working
Roo
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| Author: | Chickaroo | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 02:03 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, BricksOfFaith writes:
| | Anybody know why there has been so many spam messages/scams on the forum the
past few months? It’s getting kinda irritating….
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Most other forums I’ve ever been a member of suffer from similar problems
Unfortunately any website which features on search engines is prone to spam (I
think way back BrickLink never used to show up on Google - something to do with
spiders?)
I think there’s more chance of people being convinced to buy pizza than these
spam posts working
Roo
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| Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 01:49 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, BricksOfFaith writes:
| | Anybody know why there has been so many spam messages/scams on the forum the
past few months? It’s getting kinda irritating….
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It's because BrickLink admins can't or won't implement a keyword
scanning system for new posts that trigger on any spam keywords, and block them,
instead of letting them get posted.
BrickLink admins have to stop making it so easy to post spam messages, if there
is an automatic filter that drops spam posts in the system's equivalent of
/dev/null then spammers will continue to spam the forums with spam posts.
BrickLink will only keep getting spammers until they make it impossible for spam
messages to be visible. The way to do that is what I outlined above.
They have to stop the spam from getting posted to the forums in the first place,
or it's just going to keep happening.
Just my 2c worth ...
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 01:41 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| | it’s the mustard gangs fault |
| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 01:21 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, here4bricks614 writes:
| | Agreed. What would be the cons of requiring accounts to be at least a day/week
old before being able to post?
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There would be no more spam
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| Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | May 19, 2023 01:19 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, BricksOfFaith writes:
| | Anybody know why there has been so many spam messages/scams on the forum the
past few months? It’s getting kinda irritating….
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I agree, it's starting to get ridiculous. I guess whatever spam filtering
system BrickLink currently uses (if any) is just not enough.
I blame the pizza gang for these unfortunate circumstances, it seems they're
always up to no good.
Some suggestions:
1. Ban Nubs_Select, 1001bricks, and SylvainLS from the forum. That alone will
reduce spam by 17.4%
2. Block posts from users registered in India, Alaska, American Samoa, and APO/FPO
3. Remove the "Sales" topic (or hide it from view, which you can already
do BTW)
4. Automatically block any posts containing the word "gummies" or "escorts"
(sadly not TLG products as far as I am aware)
5. Invest in better technical anti-spam solutions for the site? Maybe more advanced
stuff using IP addresses or account limitations (like time or feedback requirements
to post)
6. Deprecate the forum, as already suggested: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1403154
Just some thoughts
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 18, 2023 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| | not worth it as the forums can be helpful to new users. |
| Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | May 18, 2023 23:07 | | Subject: | Re: Ridiculous amounts of spam on forum | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
| In Off Topic, BricksOfFaith writes:
| | Anybody know why there has been so many spam messages/scams on the forum the
past few months? It’s getting kinda irritating….
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Agreed. What would be the cons of requiring accounts to be at least a day/week
old before being able to post?
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