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 Author: Give.Me.A.Brick View Messages Posted By Give.Me.A.Brick
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, bricks2you writes:
  Where would pin hole vs axle hole fall in your approaches?

I think this could be additional information. The attachment type isn't
included in the titles of many wheels. I have recently heard an argument that
attachment type is the most important piece of information about a wheel and
should be either the first or second section of the title.

What are your thoughts?

Jumping in here too

This approach puts Axle Hole before additional description:
 
Part No: 55982  Name: Wheel 18mm D. x 14mm with Axle Hole, Fake Bolts and Shallow Spokes
* 
55982 Wheel 18mm D. x 14mm with Axle Hole, Fake Bolts and Shallow Spokes
Parts: Wheel {Light Bluish Gray}

This approach puts Axle Hole after additional description:
 
Part No: 56903  Name: Wheel 18mm D. x  8mm with Fake Bolts and Shallow Spokes and Axle Hole
* 
56903 Wheel 18mm D. x 8mm with Fake Bolts and Shallow Spokes and Axle Hole
Parts: Wheel {Light Bluish Gray}

Either way 18mm x 14mm or 18mm x 8mm, respectively, should be (in this case,
since there is no apparent Theme) the first piece of information.

Also, is the D. necessary?
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, bricks2you writes:
  Where would pin hole vs axle hole fall in your approaches?

I think this could be additional information. The attachment type isn't
included in the titles of many wheels. I have recently heard an argument that
attachment type is the most important piece of information about a wheel and
should be either the first or second section of the title.

What are your thoughts?
 Author: gunga View Messages Posted By gunga
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I would prefer approach 2. You can always determine the dimensions with a ruler
or tape measure but you might not always know what theme a wheel was originally
placed in when added to the catalog.

All wheels (and tires for that matter), should have the "mm" labels for the dimensions
so that they can be listed in ascending order. Also, perhaps the label should
have a space between it and the number, for example - 8 mm x 6 mm.

The 8x6 (4624) and 8x9 (30027) are on page 1 but the next size 11x12 (6014) are
halfway down on page 2. Listed in between are huge wheels, like 24x43 technic
and 70x28 futuristic. Perhaps due to inconsistent or nonexistent "mm" labels.
 Author: bricks2you View Messages Posted By bricks2you
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Where would pin hole vs axle hole fall in your approaches?

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  After considering the entirety of the Wheels category, I think three approaches
are reasonable (skip toward the end for the short version):

__________________________________

Approach 1:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 3: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 2, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel Town Motorcycle."
Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents of this title section,
the preferred length is no more than two words. Themes should be loosely interpreted
into only a few basic categories (Fabuland, Space, Town, Technic, etc.) to reduce
the total number of themes and avoid more groupings than necessary.

__________________________________

Approach 2:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Town Motorcycle." Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents
of this title section, the preferred length is no more than two words.


__________________________________

Approach 3:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, this information
is only the information not captured by the tag system.

___________________________________


SKIP TO HERE


Here are the pros and cons of each approach, followed by examples already in
use.

For Approach 1 the pros are standardization and grouping of similar items (like
Technic or wagon wheels). The con is that 82 of the 212 wheels already use the
second approach.

 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 2, the pro is a very straightforward system, where every single
wheel is ranked by actual size. The con is that groupings of similar items will
be lost in the places where such groupings currently exist.

 
Part No: 50862  Name: Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
* 
50862 Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 3, the pro is that all unnecessary information is moved to a tagging
system. The cons are that titles will be visually lacking and the tag system
may not be robust enough to support sucking most of the information out of titles.

 
Part No: 56904  Name: Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
* 
56904 Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Parts: Wheel

My preference is Approach 1. I think it makes the most sense given the current
system, even after tags come along.

I will say, based on extensive experience, that BL is highly unlikely to change
much in the Wheel category, at least not in any kind of timely manner (meaning
within the next five years). But I have the wheels and my wish is that everyone
could benefit from this collection. So I'll make a one-time submission of
the data and change requests.

The only question is this: which approach would members prefer I use to submit
the data? Thoughts or input?
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Dec 5, 2022 01:10
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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  Why not - assuming mm - use the same pattern as tubes?
Showing diameter and width.

(random numbers)

Wheel 27D/8W
Wheel 36D/11W
Wheel 52D/14W
Wheel 96D/14W

Or even...

Wheel 27/8
Wheel 36/11
Wheel 52/14
Wheel 96/14

Just an idea. I'm off

Those numbers just confuse me whenever I see them Iโ€™m starting to think I
need a math degree to understand sizes on bricklink now
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  I would prefer that terms like "small" "medium" "Giant" remain for wheels which
are varying sizes of the same piece.

+1

  
That's a perfectly reasonable position. Out of curiosity, though, doesn't
the size convey that information? Or do you prefer words to numbers? For example:

Not everyone reads size and converts it to item instantly words like the giant
or small can help quickly confirm at a glance when looking at something before
listing it or when pulling it to ship it out

  Wheel Small
Wheel Medium
Wheel Large
Wheel Giant



Wheel 27mm
Wheel 36mm
Wheel 52mm
Wheel 96mm




I'd like to understand your reasoning better. A similar use of size, BTW,
is in the hoses (where words couldn't describe them all).

I donโ€™t mean to bud in but those are more so very similar and are easier to mentally
picture size wise (Iโ€™m probably making no sense rn)

  
 
Part No: 5102c02  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.   2L / 1.6cm
  
5102c02 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 2L / 1.6cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c37  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  37L / 29.6cm
* 
5102c37 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 37L / 29.6cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c42  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  42L / 33.6cm
* 
5102c42 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 42L / 33.6cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c60  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  60L / 48.0cm
* 
5102c60 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 60L / 48.0cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c80  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  80L / 64.0cm
* 
5102c80 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 80L / 64.0cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c138  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 138L / 110.4cm
* 
5102c138 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 138L / 110.4cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c535  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 535L / 428.0cm
* 
5102c535 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 535L / 428.0cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Dec 5, 2022 01:08
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Why not - assuming mm - use the same pattern as tubes?
Showing diameter and width.

(random numbers)

Wheel 27D/8W
Wheel 36D/11W
Wheel 52D/14W
Wheel 96D/14W

Or even...

Wheel 27/8
Wheel 36/11
Wheel 52/14
Wheel 96/14

Just an idea. I'm off
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, Yo_Yo_Flamingo writes:
  I would prefer that terms like "small" "medium" "Giant" remain for wheels which
are varying sizes of the same piece.

That's a perfectly reasonable position. Out of curiosity, though, doesn't
the size convey that information? Or do you prefer words to numbers? For example:


Wheel Small
Wheel Medium
Wheel Large
Wheel Giant



Wheel 27mm
Wheel 36mm
Wheel 52mm
Wheel 96mm




I'd like to understand your reasoning better. A similar use of size, BTW,
is in the hoses (where words couldn't describe them all).

 
Part No: 5102c02  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.   2L / 1.6cm
  
5102c02 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 2L / 1.6cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c37  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  37L / 29.6cm
* 
5102c37 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 37L / 29.6cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c42  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  42L / 33.6cm
* 
5102c42 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 42L / 33.6cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c60  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  60L / 48.0cm
* 
5102c60 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 60L / 48.0cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c80  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.  80L / 64.0cm
* 
5102c80 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 80L / 64.0cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c138  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 138L / 110.4cm
* 
5102c138 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 138L / 110.4cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
 
Part No: 5102c535  Name: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 535L / 428.0cm
* 
5102c535 Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D. 535L / 428.0cm
Parts: Hose, Pneumatic 4mm D.
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In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  After considering the entirety of the Wheels category, I think three approaches
are reasonable (skip toward the end for the short version):

__________________________________

Approach 1:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 3: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 2, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel Town Motorcycle."
Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents of this title section,
the preferred length is no more than two words. Themes should be loosely interpreted
into only a few basic categories (Fabuland, Space, Town, Technic, etc.) to reduce
the total number of themes and avoid more groupings than necessary.

__________________________________

Approach 2:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Town Motorcycle." Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents
of this title section, the preferred length is no more than two words.


__________________________________

Approach 3:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, this information
is only the information not captured by the tag system.

___________________________________


SKIP TO HERE


Here are the pros and cons of each approach, followed by examples already in
use.

For Approach 1 the pros are standardization and grouping of similar items (like
Technic or wagon wheels). The con is that 82 of the 212 wheels already use the
second approach.

 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 2, the pro is a very straightforward system, where every single
wheel is ranked by actual size. The con is that groupings of similar items will
be lost in the places where such groupings currently exist.

 
Part No: 50862  Name: Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
* 
50862 Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 3, the pro is that all unnecessary information is moved to a tagging
system. The cons are that titles will be visually lacking and the tag system
may not be robust enough to support sucking most of the information out of titles.

 
Part No: 56904  Name: Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
* 
56904 Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Parts: Wheel

My preference is Approach 1. I think it makes the most sense given the current
system, even after tags come along.

I will say, based on extensive experience, that BL is highly unlikely to change
much in the Wheel category, at least not in any kind of timely manner (meaning
within the next five years). But I have the wheels and my wish is that everyone
could benefit from this collection. So I'll make a one-time submission of
the data and change requests.

The only question is this: which approach would members prefer I use to submit
the data? Thoughts or input?

I would like the Train Wheels grouped, the Technic wheels grouped, etc, hence
I would prefer Approach 1

And I agree that words like "small" "large" "giant" don't hold valuable info.
I would prefer the actual wheel rim(1) dimensions on every wheel.

(1) Not the corresponding former tire dimension that some wheels carry:

 
Part No: 2998  Name: Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
* 
2998 Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
Parts: Wheel {White}

Thank you!

I would prefer that terms like "small" "medium" "Giant" remain for wheels which
are varying sizes of the same piece.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
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I vote for Approach 1.

David
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  I would prefer the actual wheel rim(1) dimensions on every wheel.

Of course. That's the plan since I can physically measure every one.


  (1) Not the corresponding former tire dimension that some wheels carry:

 
Part No: 2998  Name: Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
* 
2998 Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
Parts: Wheel {White}

Just to clarify for those who don't know, that 81.6 x 34 dimension matches
the markings on this tire that fits the wheel:

 
Part No: 2997  Name: Tire 81.6 x 34 ZR Technic Straight Tread
* 
2997 Tire 81.6 x 34 ZR Technic Straight Tread
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread

But, of course, five other tires also fit the wheel (such as the one shown below).
So the 81.6 x 34 dimension in the current wheel title doesn't make much
sense.

 
Part No: 54120  Name: Tire 94.8 x 44 R Balloon
* 
54120 Tire 94.8 x 44 R Balloon
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread

Exactly!
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In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  I would prefer the actual wheel rim(1) dimensions on every wheel.

Of course. That's the plan since I can physically measure every one.


  (1) Not the corresponding former tire dimension that some wheels carry:

 
Part No: 2998  Name: Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
* 
2998 Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
Parts: Wheel {White}

Just to clarify for those who don't know, that 81.6 x 34 dimension matches
the markings on this tire that fits the wheel:

 
Part No: 2997  Name: Tire 81.6 x 34 ZR Technic Straight Tread
* 
2997 Tire 81.6 x 34 ZR Technic Straight Tread
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread

But, of course, five other tires also fit the wheel (such as the one shown below).
So the 81.6 x 34 dimension in the current wheel title doesn't make much
sense.

 
Part No: 54120  Name: Tire 94.8 x 44 R Balloon
* 
54120 Tire 94.8 x 44 R Balloon
Parts: Wheel, Tire & Tread
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  After considering the entirety of the Wheels category, I think three approaches
are reasonable (skip toward the end for the short version):

__________________________________

Approach 1:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 3: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 2, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel Town Motorcycle."
Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents of this title section,
the preferred length is no more than two words. Themes should be loosely interpreted
into only a few basic categories (Fabuland, Space, Town, Technic, etc.) to reduce
the total number of themes and avoid more groupings than necessary.

__________________________________

Approach 2:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Town Motorcycle." Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents
of this title section, the preferred length is no more than two words.


__________________________________

Approach 3:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, this information
is only the information not captured by the tag system.

___________________________________


SKIP TO HERE


Here are the pros and cons of each approach, followed by examples already in
use.

For Approach 1 the pros are standardization and grouping of similar items (like
Technic or wagon wheels). The con is that 82 of the 212 wheels already use the
second approach.

 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 2, the pro is a very straightforward system, where every single
wheel is ranked by actual size. The con is that groupings of similar items will
be lost in the places where such groupings currently exist.

 
Part No: 50862  Name: Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
* 
50862 Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 3, the pro is that all unnecessary information is moved to a tagging
system. The cons are that titles will be visually lacking and the tag system
may not be robust enough to support sucking most of the information out of titles.

 
Part No: 56904  Name: Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
* 
56904 Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Parts: Wheel

My preference is Approach 1. I think it makes the most sense given the current
system, even after tags come along.

I will say, based on extensive experience, that BL is highly unlikely to change
much in the Wheel category, at least not in any kind of timely manner (meaning
within the next five years). But I have the wheels and my wish is that everyone
could benefit from this collection. So I'll make a one-time submission of
the data and change requests.

The only question is this: which approach would members prefer I use to submit
the data? Thoughts or input?

I would like the Train Wheels grouped, the Technic wheels grouped, etc, hence
I would prefer Approach 1

And I agree that words like "small" "large" "giant" don't hold valuable info.
I would prefer the actual wheel rim(1) dimensions on every wheel.

(1) Not the corresponding former tire dimension that some wheels carry:

 
Part No: 2998  Name: Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
* 
2998 Wheel 81.6 x 34 Six Spoke
Parts: Wheel {White}

Thank you!
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Approach 1 for me.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  After considering the entirety of the Wheels category, I think three approaches
are reasonable (skip toward the end for the short version):

__________________________________

Approach 1:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 3: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 2, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel Town Motorcycle."
Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents of this title section,
the preferred length is no more than two words. Themes should be loosely interpreted
into only a few basic categories (Fabuland, Space, Town, Technic, etc.) to reduce
the total number of themes and avoid more groupings than necessary.

__________________________________

Approach 2:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Town Motorcycle." Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents
of this title section, the preferred length is no more than two words.


__________________________________

Approach 3:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, this information
is only the information not captured by the tag system.

___________________________________


SKIP TO HERE


Here are the pros and cons of each approach, followed by examples already in
use.

For Approach 1 the pros are standardization and grouping of similar items (like
Technic or wagon wheels). The con is that 82 of the 212 wheels already use the
second approach.

 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 2, the pro is a very straightforward system, where every single
wheel is ranked by actual size. The con is that groupings of similar items will
be lost in the places where such groupings currently exist.

 
Part No: 50862  Name: Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
* 
50862 Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 3, the pro is that all unnecessary information is moved to a tagging
system. The cons are that titles will be visually lacking and the tag system
may not be robust enough to support sucking most of the information out of titles.

 
Part No: 56904  Name: Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
* 
56904 Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Parts: Wheel

My preference is Approach 1. I think it makes the most sense given the current
system, even after tags come along.

I will say, based on extensive experience, that BL is highly unlikely to change
much in the Wheel category, at least not in any kind of timely manner (meaning
within the next five years). But I have the wheels and my wish is that everyone
could benefit from this collection. So I'll make a one-time submission of
the data and change requests.

The only question is this: which approach would members prefer I use to submit
the data? Thoughts or input?
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After considering the entirety of the Wheels category, I think three approaches
are reasonable (skip toward the end for the short version):

__________________________________

Approach 1:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 3: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 2, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel Town Motorcycle."
Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents of this title section,
the preferred length is no more than two words. Themes should be loosely interpreted
into only a few basic categories (Fabuland, Space, Town, Technic, etc.) to reduce
the total number of themes and avoid more groupings than necessary.

__________________________________

Approach 2:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Theme, use, or both. See below.

Title Section 4: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, the theme generally
takes precedence. Theme can be followed by use, as in "Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Town Motorcycle." Although there are no firm rules for selecting the contents
of this title section, the preferred length is no more than two words.


__________________________________

Approach 3:
__________________________________


Title Section 1: The word "Wheel."

Title Section 2: Actual, measured size of the wheel hub in the format
"10mm D. x 10mm."

Title Section 3: Any other information deemed necessary.

Sections are not separated by punctuation. For Title Section 3, this information
is only the information not captured by the tag system.

___________________________________


SKIP TO HERE


Here are the pros and cons of each approach, followed by examples already in
use.

For Approach 1 the pros are standardization and grouping of similar items (like
Technic or wagon wheels). The con is that 82 of the 212 wheels already use the
second approach.

 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 2, the pro is a very straightforward system, where every single
wheel is ranked by actual size. The con is that groupings of similar items will
be lost in the places where such groupings currently exist.

 
Part No: 50862  Name: Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
* 
50862 Wheel 15mm D. x 6mm City Motorcycle
Parts: Wheel

For Approach 3, the pro is that all unnecessary information is moved to a tagging
system. The cons are that titles will be visually lacking and the tag system
may not be robust enough to support sucking most of the information out of titles.

 
Part No: 56904  Name: Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
* 
56904 Wheel 30mm D. x 14mm
Parts: Wheel

My preference is Approach 1. I think it makes the most sense given the current
system, even after tags come along.

I will say, based on extensive experience, that BL is highly unlikely to change
much in the Wheel category, at least not in any kind of timely manner (meaning
within the next five years). But I have the wheels and my wish is that everyone
could benefit from this collection. So I'll make a one-time submission of
the data and change requests.

The only question is this: which approach would members prefer I use to submit
the data? Thoughts or input?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  StormChaser, that is the most complete and thorough answer to my question that
I could have hoped for. From all the examples you gave of different naming methods,
would the first one you mentioned (above) be the best one to use as a standard
for the rest of the category?

Thanks! To answer your question, I'm not sure yet. I think it would be
nice to keep certain wheels grouped together. A straightforward [Wheel] + [Size]
titling system would lose those groupings. See below for an example of wheels
grouped with the word "Wagon:"

 
Part No: 2470  Name: Wheel Wagon Small (27mm D.)
* 
2470 Wheel Wagon Small (27mm D.)
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 33211  Name: Wheel Wagon 43mm
* 
33211 Wheel Wagon 43mm
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

Right now I'm thinking [Wheel] + [Category] + [Size] might be best.

That does make sense to keep those keywords in the same section of the part's
name so that parts like the wagon wheels end up near each other in search results.
I agree that the size being the last part makes sense too.

David
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  StormChaser, that is the most complete and thorough answer to my question that
I could have hoped for. From all the examples you gave of different naming methods,
would the first one you mentioned (above) be the best one to use as a standard
for the rest of the category?

Thanks! To answer your question, I'm not sure yet. I think it would be
nice to keep certain wheels grouped together. A straightforward [Wheel] + [Size]
titling system would lose those groupings. See below for an example of wheels
grouped with the word "Wagon:"

 
Part No: 2470  Name: Wheel Wagon Small (27mm D.)
* 
2470 Wheel Wagon Small (27mm D.)
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 33211  Name: Wheel Wagon 43mm
* 
33211 Wheel Wagon 43mm
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

Right now I'm thinking [Wheel] + [Category] + [Size] might be best.

I do like the idea of keeping similar items grouped together this way. Good luck
with this project! Let me know if there is anything I can help with.

Jen
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  StormChaser, that is the most complete and thorough answer to my question that
I could have hoped for. From all the examples you gave of different naming methods,
would the first one you mentioned (above) be the best one to use as a standard
for the rest of the category?

Thanks! To answer your question, I'm not sure yet. I think it would be
nice to keep certain wheels grouped together. A straightforward [Wheel] + [Size]
titling system would lose those groupings. See below for an example of wheels
grouped with the word "Wagon:"

 
Part No: 2470  Name: Wheel Wagon Small (27mm D.)
* 
2470 Wheel Wagon Small (27mm D.)
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 33211  Name: Wheel Wagon 43mm
* 
33211 Wheel Wagon 43mm
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: 33212  Name: Wheel Wagon 56mm
* 
33212 Wheel Wagon 56mm
Parts: Wheel

Right now I'm thinking [Wheel] + [Category] + [Size] might be best.
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In Catalog, randy_f writes:
  The years released gets updated once a day during daily maintenance. It does
not update in real time.

That explains why today it now says 2022 as the most recent year for that part.
Thanks!

David
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  Actual physical size:
 
Part No: 30285  Name: Wheel 18mm D. x 14mm
* 
30285 Wheel 18mm D. x 14mm
Parts: Wheel

StormChaser, that is the most complete and thorough answer to my question that
I could have hoped for. From all the examples you gave of different naming methods,
would the first one you mentioned (above) be the best one to use as a standard
for the rest of the category?

Overall, it appears that the Wheels category has become messy name-wise due to
a Too-Many-Cooks-Spoil-the-Broth situation. Over the years several different
people, all of whom had good intentions, submitted the parts, and there was no
naming standard, so now it is just as you saidโ€”a mess.

David
 Author: mjcarrabine View Messages Posted By mjcarrabine
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In Catalog Requests, ToastBubbles writes:
  Below are four colors that I would like to see added to the Bricklink catalog:

-Pearl Blue
-Pearl Brown
-Pearl Green
-Pearl Red

These four colors were used in the Rahkshi Bionicles. If you look at the parts
from each set (Item No: 44807 for example), you can tell that buyers and sellers
are clearly confused, they are listing the parts as "Metallic Green" and even
"Chrome Green" because the parts have a more metallic look than just regular
green/blue/red/brown.

LEGO does have IDs/names for these colors (and so does BrickOwl):
138-Metallic Bright Blue
187-Metallic Earth-Orange
136-Metallic Dark Green
184-Metallic Bright Red

Each color should only have 3 known parts each: 44138, 44807, and 44140. (unless
I am missing something).

We already have Pearl White and Pearl Black, so I'm not quite sure why the
rest weren't added.

This addition was originally brought up by grey_beard in the Colors forum several
months ago, but seemed to be forgotten, so hopefully bringing it up here gets
more traction.

I second this.

I just tried ordering some missing parts from my Rebrickable inventory. The missing
Pearl Red resulted in color = not applicable. I didnโ€™t notice it until I received
BLUE parts.

Now I know why. It would be really helpful if these colors were added.
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  In Catalog, SillyJillie writes:
  I came across a plate that appears to be very light bluish gray, marbled with
white and dark bluish gray, but I cannot find this in the catalog under decorated
or by its own color. Can anyone point me in the right direction? part number
printed underneath is 03034 rather than 3034

It might be Pearl Light Gray. That is not a known color for
 
Part No: 3034  Name: Plate 2 x 8
* 
3034 Plate 2 x 8
Parts: Plate
, but that
does not mean it can't exist. Compare
 
Part No: 3020  Name: Plate 2 x 4
* 
3020 Plate 2 x 4
Parts: Plate {Pearl Light Gray}
that's also an 'unknown'
color although there are some for sale and quite a bunch in my own collection.

If not Pearl Light Gray, yours may be a marbled brick, a production error.

I have one, they exist.
 
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  When looking at a part in the catalog, we can see the Years Released (first thing
under Item Info.) I had always thought that that span of years was based on
the earliest and latest years that that part had been in any set in any color.
I also thought that when an inventory is approved and shows up in the catalog,
the span of years is updated immediately, but maybe that's not the case.

Today I noticed that the inventory for
 
Set No: 10979  Name: Wild Animals of Europe
* 
10979-1 (Inv) Wild Animals of Europe
86 Parts, 2022
Sets: DUPLO
was just added. That set includes the following part:
 
Part No: 11344  Name: Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 x 2 Slope Curved
* 
11344 Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 x 2 Slope Curved
Parts: DUPLO, Brick
The Wild Animals of Europe set is a new one from 2022. Since that set includes
part 11344, shouldn't the Years Released info automatically update to show
the most recent year being 2022? It currently shows 2019.

David


The years released gets updated once a day during daily maintenance. It does
not update in real time.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  As someone who doesn't buy many wheels at all, what is it that makes the
Wheels category "currently a genuine mess"?

Fair question.

The primary issue is titles. The default sorting is by title and at least 11
different methods of titling are used, causing wheels to be sorted in non-intuitive
ways. Here are those titling methods:

Actual physical size:
 
Part No: 30285  Name: Wheel 18mm D. x 14mm
* 
30285 Wheel 18mm D. x 14mm
Parts: Wheel

Theme:

 
Part No: 6248  Name: Wheel FreeStyle with Technic Pin Hole
* 
6248 Wheel FreeStyle with Technic Pin Hole
Parts: Wheel

Physical characteristic:
 
Part No: 4288  Name: Wheel Full Rubber Balloon with Axle Hole
* 
4288 Wheel Full Rubber Balloon with Axle Hole
Parts: Wheel

Use:
 
Part No: 47576  Name: Sports Hockey Puck, Small (Wheel)
* 
47576 Sports Hockey Puck, Small (Wheel)
Parts: Sports

Generic physical size ("small"):
 
Part No: 41865  Name: Wheel Small Wide Hard Plastic Slick, Hole Notched for Wheels Holder Pin
* 
41865 Wheel Small Wide Hard Plastic Slick, Hole Notched for Wheels Holder Pin
Parts: Wheel

Set name:
 
Part No: 51378  Name: Wheel 74.8mm D. x 20.4mm Motorcycle
* 
51378 Wheel 74.8mm D. x 20.4mm Motorcycle
Parts: Wheel

The word "with":
 
Part No: 7039b  Name: Wheel with 4 Studs and Axle Cam for Motor
* 
7039b Wheel with 4 Studs and Axle Cam for Motor
Parts: Wheel

TLG "size:"
 
Part No: 55889  Name: Wheel 18 x 14 Smooth
* 
55889 Wheel 18 x 14 Smooth
Parts: Wheel

And then those where "Wheel" is not the first word in the title:

Former BrickLink category name:
 
Part No: 3137c02  Name: Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels for Dually Tire
* 
3137c02 (Inv) Brick, Modified 2 x 2 with Red Wheels for Dually Tire
Parts: Wheel

Theme:
 
Part No: 32089  Name: Technic Tread Sprocket Wheel Dual Thin
* 
32089 Technic Tread Sprocket Wheel Dual Thin
Parts: Wheel

Use:
 
Part No: bb1171c01  Name: Monorail Wheel Pair on Silver Axle
* 
bb1171c01 Monorail Wheel Pair on Silver Axle
Parts: Wheel

For a category with only 212 items, those are a significant amount of different
methods of titling. And then you have multiple instances where similar items
are titled differently (also, the comma in the second example causes items to
sort to the bottom of the list):

 
Part No: 2927  Name: Train Wheel Small
* 
2927 Train Wheel Small
Parts: Wheel
 
Part No: wheel4  Name: Train Wheel Spoked Large (29mm D.) with FreeStyle Pin Hole
* 
wheel4 Train Wheel Spoked Large (29mm D.) with FreeStyle Pin Hole
Parts: Wheel

In addition, the small and large identifiers are unhelpful. There are 29 train
wheels in the catalog. The words small and large clarify nothing.

Additionally, there are a few instances of wheels being not categorized as wheels
or non-wheels being categorized as wheels. There are missing item relationships
and additional notes. Variants are not known in some cases. Pictures are sometimes
poor quality and sizes are missing. Those are the reasons I called things a
mess - because the current state of things resembles an amateur effort rather
than a planned, professional cataloging system.
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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  
  Probbaly give it a day and after daily maintenance it will probably change

Agreed - see, you're not so bad!!!


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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  [โ€ฆ]
Please don't remove these keywords from the item names, at least not without
considering the implications outside the primary Bricklink user interface.

Most importantly: the Bricklink item names with all those keywords are used in
Studio as well.

And just searching through my own collection in Excel - by means of the downloaded
Bricklink catalogue and Bricklink orders - would be a pain without having those
keywords as part of the item names.

Well, itโ€™s indeed to be hoped that:
โ€” thereโ€™ll be a โ€œtagsโ€ column (/element) in the downloads,
โ€” Studio will know to search the tags (and maybe have a special UIโ€ฆ hmm, maybe
I should ask the devs (multi-pronged attack )).
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  Probbaly give it a day and after daily maintenance it will probably change

Agreed - see, you're not so bad!!!
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  When looking at a part in the catalog, we can see the Years Released (first thing
under Item Info.) I had always thought that that span of years was based on
the earliest and latest years that that part had been in any set in any color.
I also thought that when an inventory is approved and shows up in the catalog,
the span of years is updated immediately, but maybe that's not the case.

Today I noticed that the inventory for
 
Set No: 10979  Name: Wild Animals of Europe
* 
10979-1 (Inv) Wild Animals of Europe
86 Parts, 2022
Sets: DUPLO
was just added. That set includes the following part:
 
Part No: 11344  Name: Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 x 2 Slope Curved
* 
11344 Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 x 2 Slope Curved
Parts: DUPLO, Brick
The Wild Animals of Europe set is a new one from 2022. Since that set includes
part 11344, shouldn't the Years Released info automatically update to show
the most recent year being 2022? It currently shows 2019.

David

Probbaly give it a day and after daily maintenance it will probably change
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When looking at a part in the catalog, we can see the Years Released (first thing
under Item Info.) I had always thought that that span of years was based on
the earliest and latest years that that part had been in any set in any color.
I also thought that when an inventory is approved and shows up in the catalog,
the span of years is updated immediately, but maybe that's not the case.

Today I noticed that the inventory for
 
Set No: 10979  Name: Wild Animals of Europe
* 
10979-1 (Inv) Wild Animals of Europe
86 Parts, 2022
Sets: DUPLO
was just added. That set includes the following part:
 
Part No: 11344  Name: Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 x 2 Slope Curved
* 
11344 Duplo, Brick 2 x 3 x 2 Slope Curved
Parts: DUPLO, Brick
The Wild Animals of Europe set is a new one from 2022. Since that set includes
part 11344, shouldn't the Years Released info automatically update to show
the most recent year being 2022? It currently shows 2019.

David
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As someone who doesn't buy many wheels at all, what is it that makes the
Wheels category "currently a genuine mess"?

David
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
[...]
  A lot of the inconsistencies you mentioned involve the item name. As you know,
we have a project with tags coming soon, and ideally many of the keywords in
the item name will becomes tags and be removed. So eventually we want to have
all the descriptors available somewhere in a searcheable field.

[...]

Please don't remove these keywords from the item names, at least not without
considering the implications outside the primary Bricklink user interface.

Most importantly: the Bricklink item names with all those keywords are used in
Studio as well.

And just searching through my own collection in Excel - by means of the downloaded
Bricklink catalogue and Bricklink orders - would be a pain without having those
keywords as part of the item names.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  I have all the LEGO wheels (in all the colors) from the 1970s to now. Two months
ago, on October 4th, I offered to help organize the wheels section of the BL
catalog (because it's currently a genuine mess).

I sent that offer of assistance to the catalog team, which apparently consists
of the two volunteer administrators and five BrickLink employees.

My offer was completely ignored by the catalog team. I think it was fair to
give them two months before expressing my discontent publicly. BrickLink members,
and especially members willing to contribute, should be treated better than this.

We did receive your message and we talked about it. My apologies that no one
got back to you, but we didn't really finish the discussion.

As many fans know, the LEGO Group is the largest producer of tires in the world,
and it's something we are all proud of. Those who use the catalog know that
these types of parts are often confused for one another, and there have been
some great efforts made in the past to help users navigate through the wide selection
available on Bricklink - a double-sided sheet prepared by Jennnifer comes to
mind.

So we do think the project is important and we want it to happen. However, it
would be best to split it into manageable sections. First, we recommend starting
with these:

1) Incorrect or missing weights and packing dimensions.

2) Better photos, especially for assemblies that currently do not have an image.

A lot of the inconsistencies you mentioned involve the item name. As you know,
we have a project with tags coming soon, and ideally many of the keywords in
the item name will becomes tags and be removed. So eventually we want to have
all the descriptors available somewhere in a searcheable field.

If you would like to take a stab at making some rules for the item name, please
go ahead. It is likely that no one has ever thought through the issue with these
particular parts very deeply, and we might find some easy fixes that everyone
can agree on. And by everyone, I am including the Forum crowd here.

I'll send you a private message later on when I've had a chance to read
your proposal in more detail.

And welcome back to the Forum.
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  I also have variants, including some about which BrickLink is unaware.

Those sound like lots of fun!
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  The photos of your collection on display were amazing. It's a treasure!

Thank you! It was a lot of work to put together!

_______________________________________________

In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  How were you in this regard when you served as Catalog Administrator, Robert?
I remember you being very attentive with those that showed-up here in the forum
with catalog questions/concerns, but privately? Sincere question

I was not perfect, but I could count on one hand the number of times I regretted
my behavior toward members. And I absolutely tried to engage with everyone,
even if the answer was "no." Still, my past performance in this role is not
relevant to the website's current customer service experience.

________________________________________________

In Catalog, marlinjc writes:
  Is your wheel section available on line anywhere? Sounds very useful.

Unfortunately, it's not available online. And it is quite useful, but more
from the perspective of being able to physically handle the wheels and compare
them. I did post pictures here:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1367692

_______________________________________________

In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
  Is your collection limited to retail colors, or did you track down all known
prototype/unreleased colors too?

I have about 30 unreleased colors. I put them in their own section on the boards.
I'm sure I didn't track down all of the colors, since it would be impossible
to know what all of them are. I also have variants, including some about which
BrickLink is unaware.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  I have all the LEGO wheels (in all the colors) from the 1970s to now. Two months
ago, on October 4th, I offered to help organize the wheels section of the BL

This is not a negative comment by any means, just curious.
Is your collection limited to retail colors, or did you track down all known
prototype/unreleased colors too?
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Is your wheel section available on line anywhere? Sounds very useful.

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  I have all the LEGO wheels (in all the colors) from the 1970s to now. Two months
ago, on October 4th, I offered to help organize the wheels section of the BL
catalog (because it's currently a genuine mess).

I sent that offer of assistance to the catalog team, which apparently consists
of the two volunteer administrators and five BrickLink employees.

My offer was completely ignored by the catalog team. I think it was fair to
give them two months before expressing my discontent publicly. BrickLink members,
and especially members willing to contribute, should be treated better than this.

Dismiss, patronize, and ignore is not an effective customer service strategy.
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  I have all the LEGO wheels (in all the colors) from the 1970s to now. Two months
ago, on October 4th, I offered to help organize the wheels section of the BL
catalog (because it's currently a genuine mess).

I sent that offer of assistance to the catalog team, which apparently consists
of the two volunteer administrators and five BrickLink employees.

My offer was completely ignored by the catalog team. I think it was fair to
give them two months before expressing my discontent publicly. BrickLink members,
and especially members willing to contribute, should be treated better than this.

Dismiss, patronize, and ignore is not an effective customer service strategy.

The photos of your collection on display were amazing. It's a treasure!
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I have all the LEGO wheels (in all the colors) from the 1970s to now. Two months
ago, on October 4th, I offered to help organize the wheels section of the BL
catalog (because it's currently a genuine mess).

I sent that offer of assistance to the catalog team, which apparently consists
of the two volunteer administrators and five BrickLink employees.

My offer was completely ignored by the catalog team. I think it was fair to
give them two months before expressing my discontent publicly. BrickLink members,
and especially members willing to contribute, should be treated better than this.

Dismiss, patronize, and ignore is not an effective customer service strategy.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
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In Catalog, SillyJillie writes:
  I came across a plate that appears to be very light bluish gray, marbled with
white and dark bluish gray, but I cannot find this in the catalog under decorated
or by its own color. Can anyone point me in the right direction? part number
printed underneath is 03034 rather than 3034

It might be Pearl Light Gray. That is not a known color for
 
Part No: 3034  Name: Plate 2 x 8
* 
3034 Plate 2 x 8
Parts: Plate
, but that
does not mean it can't exist. Compare
 
Part No: 3020  Name: Plate 2 x 4
* 
3020 Plate 2 x 4
Parts: Plate {Pearl Light Gray}
that's also an 'unknown'
color although there are some for sale and quite a bunch in my own collection.

If not Pearl Light Gray, yours may be a marbled brick, a production error.
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I came across a plate that appears to be very light bluish gray, marbled with
white and dark bluish gray, but I cannot find this in the catalog under decorated
or by its own color. Can anyone point me in the right direction? part number
printed underneath is 03034 rather than 3034
 
 Author: TheK79 View Messages Posted By TheK79
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In Catalog, ccroxton writes:
  If you were really trying to recreate authentic
vintage sets, wouldn't you need to select from vintage PN?

The main problem would still be not knowing, which version belongs to which set.
It's much more likely, it often took Lego several years to get old versions
out of stock or even production.

I've currently split 3001old in up to seven variations, and that only covers
split tubes, pat pend (all three versions exist with and without splits!) and
the CA bricks. There are probably several more versions within the "not split,
pat pend" ones for the Logo and a "bar" along the middle. Damn, these things
have clutch power like superglue And if you think, you have seen everything,
there comes a few "pend Pat" (jup, the lines mixed upโ€ฆ) or the whole writing
moved to the rightโ€ฆ
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  Hi,

I'm curious why certain items change logs don't show previous names?

I know this figure was called "Kickboxer Girl - Minifigure only Entry"
as recently as May - 2020, yet the change log only shows it was ever called Boxing
Champ ect.

 
Minifig No: col251  Name: Kickboxer, Series 16 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 
col251 (Inv) Kickboxer, Series 16 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 16 Minifigures

The CMF's set change log includes the kickboxer girl verbiage.

 
Set No: col16  Name: Kickboxer, Series 16 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 
col16-8 (Inv) Kickboxer, Series 16 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
3 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2016
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 16 Minifigures


The names have been altered to be in line with the official LEGO name. Since
I did the updates manually through the admin forms, there will be no log of the
changes. This was one of two minifigures in the series that needed their names
updated, so thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, runner.caller writes:
  Hi,

I'm curious why certain items change logs don't show previous names?

I know this figure was called "Kickboxer Girl - Minifigure only Entry"
as recently as May - 2020, yet the change log only shows it was ever called Boxing
Champ ect.

 
Minifig No: col251  Name: Kickboxer, Series 16 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 
col251 (Inv) Kickboxer, Series 16 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 16 Minifigures

The CMF's set change log includes the kickboxer girl verbiage.

 
Set No: col16  Name: Kickboxer, Series 16 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 
col16-8 (Inv) Kickboxer, Series 16 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
3 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2016
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 16 Minifigures

It is my understanding that the Change Log only handles changes made through
the Change Item requests. It is possible for admin to make changes behind the
scenes without them showing up there. I am not sure of the exact nature of when
and how that happens.

Jen
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Hi,

I'm curious why certain items change logs don't show previous names?

I know this figure was called "Kickboxer Girl - Minifigure only Entry"
as recently as May - 2020, yet the change log only shows it was ever called Boxing
Champ ect.

 
Minifig No: col251  Name: Kickboxer, Series 16 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
* 
col251 (Inv) Kickboxer, Series 16 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 16 Minifigures

The CMF's set change log includes the kickboxer girl verbiage.

 
Set No: col16  Name: Kickboxer, Series 16 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
* 
col16-8 (Inv) Kickboxer, Series 16 (Complete Set with Stand and Accessories)
3 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 2016
Sets: Collectible Minifigures: Series 16 Minifigures
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Dec 1, 2022 21:17
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In Catalog, 4jakub4 writes:
  So can I do this? I have this set and it is waiting to be added to my shop by
parting out, but I don't know how to do this.

Hello,

I am happy to answer questions or walk you through the process.

The minifigs for 76214 are already in the catalog so it shouldn't be too
difficult. You may need to take images of any new parts or sticker sheets.

(I actually have 76213 on order so that one will be added fairly soon if you
want to wait a little longer on it. Either way, I can help you out.)

Here is a Help page to get you started.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1103

The instructions make it seem pretty complicated, but it gets easier after you've
seen all the steps in action.

Feel free to send me a message or post questions here.

Thanks,
Jen
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So can I do this? I have this set and it is waiting to be added to my shop by
parting out, but I don't know how to do this.
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In Catalog Requests, 4jakub4 writes:
  Hello
I just want to ask: when will you add a list of parts of sets 76214 and 76213?
(sets from Black Panther movie).


When someone that has a sealed set decides that they would like to provide the
inventory to BrickLink.

Cheers,
Randy
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set inventories are added by volunteers like you and me so there isn't any
set date they will be added but will get added once a volunteer goes thru the
process of adding the inventory
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Hello
I just want to ask: when will you add a list of parts of sets 76214 and 76213?
(sets from Black Panther movie).
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, Alizarin writes:
  Hello,

I was going to weigh the box for set 10307, but was unsure if I should weigh
only the outside box (left most box), or if I should also include the weight
of the 3 inner cardboard boxes that the pieces come packaged in. A photo is attached
to show all 4 boxes.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Alizarin

Those look great! In general, I never include the weight of generic white boxes
when submitting box weight. However, I did include the interior printed boxes
for:
 
Original Box No: 42143  Name: Ferrari Daytona SP3
* 
42143-1 Ferrari Daytona SP3
Original Boxes: Technic: Model: Race
as they were integral to the design.

I am sure an admin will let you know for sure what to do. LEGO loves changing
their product designs and challenging our systems.

Jen

Hi,

Thanks for the help Jen!

Alizarin
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In Catalog, randy_f writes:
  In Catalog, Alizarin writes:
  Hello,

I was going to weigh the box for set 10307, but was unsure if I should weigh
only the outside box (left most box), or if I should also include the weight
of the 3 inner cardboard boxes that the pieces come packaged in. A photo is attached
to show all 4 boxes.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Alizarin


Please include the weight of the inner boxes.

Cheers,
Randy

Hi Randy,

Thanks for the clarification and help!

Much appreciated,
Alizarin
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In Catalog, Alizarin writes:
  Hello,

I was going to weigh the box for set 10307, but was unsure if I should weigh
only the outside box (left most box), or if I should also include the weight
of the 3 inner cardboard boxes that the pieces come packaged in. A photo is attached
to show all 4 boxes.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Alizarin


Please include the weight of the inner boxes.

Cheers,
Randy
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 Posted: Nov 28, 2022 12:50
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Please approve sw1245s & sw1246s
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In Catalog, Alizarin writes:
  Hello,

I was going to weigh the box for set 10307, but was unsure if I should weigh
only the outside box (left most box), or if I should also include the weight
of the 3 inner cardboard boxes that the pieces come packaged in. A photo is attached
to show all 4 boxes.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Alizarin

Those look great! In general, I never include the weight of generic white boxes
when submitting box weight. However, I did include the interior printed boxes
for:
 
Original Box No: 42143  Name: Ferrari Daytona SP3
* 
42143-1 Ferrari Daytona SP3
Original Boxes: Technic: Model: Race
as they were integral to the design.

I am sure an admin will let you know for sure what to do. LEGO loves changing
their product designs and challenging our systems.

Jen
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Hello,

I was going to weigh the box for set 10307, but was unsure if I should weigh
only the outside box (left most box), or if I should also include the weight
of the 3 inner cardboard boxes that the pieces come packaged in. A photo is attached
to show all 4 boxes.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Alizarin
 
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Nov 27, 2022 23:03
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In Catalog, 1P writes:
  In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  Pen Beads appear as PARTS in a newly announced set for Lunar New Year. The photo
of the new set shows 2 minifigs with Bright Pink masks that are Pen Beads. Currently
Pen Beads only appear as GEAR items.

I thought that Catalog Admins should be made aware in the event that this may
require a catalog re-adjustment or re-classification of some kind.


https://brickset.com/sets/80111-1/Lunar-New-Year-Parade


https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=bead006*#T=A

 
Gear No: bead006  Name: Bead, Cylinder Large
* 
bead006 Bead, Cylinder Large
Gear: Bead {Trans-Red}

The big heads in the LNY set are the same as the Thanos bigfig one, but I'm
not sure if they're also the same as the bead pieces

 
Part No: 79435pb01  Name: Minifigure, Head, Modified Giant Black Eyebrows, Dark Purple Eye Shadow, Wrinkles, and Chin Lines, Furrowed Brow, Open Mouth Smile with Teeth Pattern - Vented Stud
* 
79435pb01 Minifigure, Head, Modified Giant Black Eyebrows, Dark Purple Eye Shadow, Wrinkles, and Chin Lines, Furrowed Brow, Open Mouth Smile with Teeth Pattern - Vented Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head, Modified

It looks like the big heads are bigger and so heavier than the bead pieces.
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
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  In Catalog, Isaac writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly

Isnโ€™t there also a moratorium on adding such counterparts/assemblies in the catalogue
(when the assemblies can easily be unbuilt), because that would make too many
entries?

Yeah that's why I suggested to either add ALL the variations, or REMOVE all
of them.

I think thereโ€™s also a moratorium against removing entries

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly

Isnโ€™t there also a moratorium on adding such counterparts/assemblies in the catalogue
(when the assemblies can easily be unbuilt), because that would make too many
entries?

something like that

Hmm, I fear your answer could translate to โ€œcโ€™est pas fauxโ€ (it ainโ€™t wrong)โ€ฆ
which is a catchphrase used by a guy in a French comedy when he hasโ€ฆ hmmโ€ฆ letโ€™s
say a vocabulary challenge

grammar is confusing
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In Catalog, Isaac writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly

Isnโ€™t there also a moratorium on adding such counterparts/assemblies in the catalogue
(when the assemblies can easily be unbuilt), because that would make too many
entries?

Yeah that's why I suggested to either add ALL the variations, or REMOVE all
of them.

I think thereโ€™s also a moratorium against removing entries
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In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly

Isnโ€™t there also a moratorium on adding such counterparts/assemblies in the catalogue
(when the assemblies can easily be unbuilt), because that would make too many
entries?

something like that

Hmm, I fear your answer could translate to โ€œcโ€™est pas fauxโ€ (it ainโ€™t wrong)โ€ฆ
which is a catchphrase used by a guy in a French comedy when he hasโ€ฆ hmmโ€ฆ letโ€™s
say a vocabulary challenge
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly

Isnโ€™t there also a moratorium on adding such counterparts/assemblies in the catalogue
(when the assemblies can easily be unbuilt), because that would make too many
entries?

Yeah that's why I suggested to either add ALL the variations, or REMOVE all
of them.
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly

Isnโ€™t there also a moratorium on adding such counterparts/assemblies in the catalogue
(when the assemblies can easily be unbuilt), because that would make too many
entries?

something like that
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In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly

Isnโ€™t there also a moratorium on adding such counterparts/assemblies in the catalogue
(when the assemblies can easily be unbuilt), because that would make too many
entries?
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you can change the colour of the part you are listing on the listing page itself
only combinations that were in official lego sets will have their images added
tho. it may just be best to take them apart and list the parts seperatly
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In Catalog, Nubs_Select writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Isaac writes:
  Either add all colors for 60592 to entries 60592c01 and 60592c02, or remove those
entries altogether. Doesn't that make sense?

The entries are based off of what comes in the sets for counterparts but all
the base colours for all of the parts are still in the catalogue and you can
list any colour you want from the premade counterparts

I don't understand what you mean. These are 2 distinct part which can go
together in any combination which you choose. But, in fact, you're not able
to list it that way since some are not an option...
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In Catalog Requests, Isaac writes:
  Either add all colors for 60592 to entries 60592c01 and 60592c02, or remove those
entries altogether. Doesn't that make sense?

The entries are based off of what comes in the sets for counterparts but all
the base colours for all of the parts are still in the catalogue and you can
list any colour you want from the premade counterparts
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Either add all colors for 60592 to entries 60592c01 and 60592c02, or remove those
entries altogether. Doesn't that make sense?
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 Posted: Nov 21, 2022 18:19
 Subject: Re: Part "3777937783c03" needs to be merged
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, Cyborg_Samurai writes:
  It looks like the part 3777937783c03: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3777937783c03&idColor=115#T=S&C=115&O={%22color%22:115,%22iconly%22:0}

should be labeled as 2 different parts and should be merged with parts:
- 37779c02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=37779c02&utm_source=rebrickable#T=S&C=153&O={%22color%22:153,%22iconly%22:0}
- 37783c02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=37783c02#T=S&C=153&O={%22color%22:153,%22iconly%22:0}

1. it is a monochromatic part meaning that it shouldn't have print abbreviations,
they should just be called 37779/37783
2. 37779c02 and 37783c02 are the same exact part as 3777937783c03
as they are just alternate colors

First of all, lets use the macros so we can all see to what we are referring.


[p=3777937783c03]
 
Part No: 37779c02  Name: Arm Large with Pin, Left with White Hand
* 
37779c02 (Inv) Arm Large with Pin, Left with White Hand
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 37783c02  Name: Arm Large with Pin, Right with White Hand
* 
37783c02 (Inv) Arm Large with Pin, Right with White Hand
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

The first part is a pair comprised of the other single parts. Notice the (Inv)
after the item number. I can't really follow your logic that they be 'merged.'

It follows the pattern of these:
 
Part No: 981982  Name: Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
* 
981982 (Inv) Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 981  Name: Arm, Left
* 
981 Arm, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 982  Name: Arm, Right
* 
982 Arm, Right
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

Finally, 'c' is not a print abbreviation. You are thinking of 'pb'
which is for decorated parts.

Here's some info:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168

Thanks,
Jen

if you check here: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=37779c03&idColor=0#T=S&C=115&O={%22color%22:115,%22iconly%22:0}
it does not show that it is in the same inventory as the azure blue version

My suggestion is that these are literally the same piece but in different colors
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  The big heads in the LNY set are the same as the Thanos bigfig one

I read Theranos
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Pen Beads appear as PARTS in a newly announced set for Lunar New Year. The photo
of the new set shows 2 minifigs with Bright Pink masks that are Pen Beads. Currently
Pen Beads only appear as GEAR items.

I thought that Catalog Admins should be made aware in the event that this may
require a catalog re-adjustment or re-classification of some kind.


https://brickset.com/sets/80111-1/Lunar-New-Year-Parade


https://www.bricklink.com/v2/search.page?q=bead006*#T=A

 
Gear No: bead006  Name: Bead, Cylinder Large
* 
bead006 Bead, Cylinder Large
Gear: Bead {Trans-Red}
 
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In Catalog, 2bricks writes:
  I need to add a part to my inventory for sale but I can't find it in the
brick link catalog. It comes from set 75883. The part is 61678 and is green.
It has a sticker on it that says 'PETRONAS' and the part goes on the
right side of the race car in this set. However the sticker sheet is in the brick
link catalog.

Please advise.

You will need to add the part to the BrickLink catalog first. It's a bit
of a process but worth it! You've got the image already so you are more than
halfway there. I am happy to help walk you through it if you need any help.

A link to some standard instructions:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1374669

Jen
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I need to add a part to my inventory for sale but I can't find it in the
brick link catalog. It comes from set 75883. The part is 61678 and is green.
It has a sticker on it that says 'PETRONAS' and the part goes on the
right side of the race car in this set. However the sticker sheet is in the brick
link catalog.

Please advise.
 
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In Catalog, randy_f writes:
  In Catalog Requests, ccroxton writes:
  For a few parts, there exists in the catalog a separate PN such as
 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick
.
But what about the other vintage parts, like 6x10 plates that have no PN on the
back, just Lego on the studs? If you were really trying to recreate authentic
vintage sets, wouldn't you need to select from vintage PN?


Some sellers offer vintage parts but can't list them as separate entries. I have listed them as regular entries with a comment concerning customers should request vintage markings in the notes when an order is placed.

Sandra
TerraBrick
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In Catalog, ccroxton writes:
  For a few parts, there exists in the catalog a separate PN such as
 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick
.
But what about the other vintage parts, like 6x10 plates that have no PN on the
back, just Lego on the studs? If you were really trying to recreate authentic
vintage sets, wouldn't you need to select from vintage PN?

A PN does not constitute a structural difference to the part, so the presence
or absence of a PN does not result in a seperate catalog entry. Nor does the
'pat pend' text printed on many old vintage parts. (We have tried but
it was not accepted, and that's for the better as well it would create a
chaos in the catalog.)

Besides that, I think that many if not (almost) all vintage parts like these
are already in the catalog. I myself and a few other collectors have done a great
job some 10 years ago the add many vintage parts.
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In Catalog Requests, ccroxton writes:
  For a few parts, there exists in the catalog a separate PN such as
 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick
.
But what about the other vintage parts, like 6x10 plates that have no PN on the
back, just Lego on the studs? If you were really trying to recreate authentic
vintage sets, wouldn't you need to select from vintage PN?


I don't know the whole history of the vintage part entries for some of the
bricks, but my guess would be that it had to do with collectors wanting those
entries at the time. I don't know if they would be added again today if they
weren't already in the system. I do know that there are no plans to add any
more of them at this time.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Catalog, Cyborg_Samurai writes:
  It looks like the part 3777937783c03: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3777937783c03&idColor=115#T=S&C=115&O={%22color%22:115,%22iconly%22:0}

should be labeled as 2 different parts and should be merged with parts:
- 37779c02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=37779c02&utm_source=rebrickable#T=S&C=153&O={%22color%22:153,%22iconly%22:0}
- 37783c02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=37783c02#T=S&C=153&O={%22color%22:153,%22iconly%22:0}

1. it is a monochromatic part meaning that it shouldn't have print abbreviations,
they should just be called 37779/37783
2. 37779c02 and 37783c02 are the same exact part as 3777937783c03
as they are just alternate colors

First of all, lets use the macros so we can all see to what we are referring.


[p=3777937783c03]
 
Part No: 37779c02  Name: Arm Large with Pin, Left with White Hand
* 
37779c02 (Inv) Arm Large with Pin, Left with White Hand
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 37783c02  Name: Arm Large with Pin, Right with White Hand
* 
37783c02 (Inv) Arm Large with Pin, Right with White Hand
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

The first part is a pair comprised of the other single parts. Notice the (Inv)
after the item number. I can't really follow your logic that they be 'merged.'

It follows the pattern of these:
 
Part No: 981982  Name: Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
* 
981982 (Inv) Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 981  Name: Arm, Left
* 
981 Arm, Left
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part
 
Part No: 982  Name: Arm, Right
* 
982 Arm, Right
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

Finally, 'c' is not a print abbreviation. You are thinking of 'pb'
which is for decorated parts.

Here's some info:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168

Thanks,
Jen
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 Posted: Nov 16, 2022 13:52
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In Catalog Requests, rainbowmist writes:
  Hi. I have part 3626bpb0333 with a hollow stud. Took me a while to figure out
it was listed in the catalog as a blocked open stud.

Thank you.

It's more likely that both variants exist. If you can take an image, we can
add the 'c' version to the catalog. I can help walk you through the process
if you are unfamiliar.

Jen
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For a few parts, there exists in the catalog a separate PN such as
 
Part No: 3001old  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* 
3001old Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
Parts: Brick
.
But what about the other vintage parts, like 6x10 plates that have no PN on the
back, just Lego on the studs? If you were really trying to recreate authentic
vintage sets, wouldn't you need to select from vintage PN?
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Hi. I have part 3626bpb0333 with a hollow stud. Took me a while to figure out
it was listed in the catalog as a blocked open stud.

Thank you.
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Is any having trouble every time you try to enter a new lo.
I've keyed in over 80000 pieces in the last 7 months and no
Problem. But this just started today..
Is anyone else having the same problems
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those ones look to be sorted by arm colour and not by hand colour so technically
they are just monochrome for those images but not as a whole
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It looks like the part 3777937783c03: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3777937783c03&idColor=115#T=S&C=115&O={%22color%22:115,%22iconly%22:0}

should be labeled as 2 different parts and should be merged with parts:
- 37779c02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=37779c02&utm_source=rebrickable#T=S&C=153&O={%22color%22:153,%22iconly%22:0}
- 37783c02: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=37783c02#T=S&C=153&O={%22color%22:153,%22iconly%22:0}

1. it is a monochromatic part meaning that it shouldn't have print abbreviations,
they should just be called 37779/37783
2. 37779c02 and 37783c02 are the same exact part as 3777937783c03
as they are just alternate colors
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Pizza the Hut?

Christian

novabrick-team

In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  
  If only this Ideas project had been approved, thatโ€™s a minifig that could have
been realized (although in this project, the legs are attached less comically)

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/6a21cb1c-e42a-4ac0-8cce-273e11b76ca6

Iโ€™d have bought that in a heartbeat!

Hoping someone won't see this detail...
 Author: SDF_Bricks View Messages Posted By SDF_Bricks
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Very welcome. My mistake, it actually mates with the part below, and all three
of them are the 'basis' for helicopter rotor.

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2906#T=C&C=11


In Catalog, baylit writes:
  In Catalog, SDF_Bricks writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2907&idColor=9#T=C&C=9

Yep that's it
Thanks!
Sure looks like a gear.
Much appreciated


  


In Catalog, SDF_Bricks writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

???
 
Part No: 3647  Name: Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
* 
3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
Parts: Technic, Gear {Light Gray}

It mates with the part below. Useful for controlling blade angles of helicopter.

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2908&name=Technic%20Helicopter%20Rotor%20Holder&category=%5BTechnic%5D#T=C&C=9
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In Catalog, SDF_Bricks writes:
  https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2907&idColor=9#T=C&C=9

Yep that's it
Thanks!
Sure looks like a gear.
Much appreciated


  


In Catalog, SDF_Bricks writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

???
 
Part No: 3647  Name: Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
* 
3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
Parts: Technic, Gear {Light Gray}

It mates with the part below. Useful for controlling blade angles of helicopter.

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2908&name=Technic%20Helicopter%20Rotor%20Holder&category=%5BTechnic%5D#T=C&C=9
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In Catalog, baylit writes:
  In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

Look just like the 12-tooth version just slightly smaller

 
Part No: 2907  Name: Technic Ball with Grooves
* 
2907 Technic Ball with Grooves
Parts: Technic
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In Catalog, baylit writes:
  In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

Look just like the 12-tooth version just slightly smaller

On closer inspection they are somewhat different.
See comparison picture - where the 12-tooth is the middle two, and the 8-tooth
are outside.
 
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https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2907&idColor=9#T=C&C=9



In Catalog, SDF_Bricks writes:
  In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

???
 
Part No: 3647  Name: Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
* 
3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
Parts: Technic, Gear {Light Gray}

It mates with the part below. Useful for controlling blade angles of helicopter.

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2908&name=Technic%20Helicopter%20Rotor%20Holder&category=%5BTechnic%5D#T=C&C=9
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In Catalog, 1001bricks writes:
  In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

???
 
Part No: 3647  Name: Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
* 
3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
Parts: Technic, Gear {Light Gray}

It mates with the part below. Useful for controlling blade angles of helicopter.

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2908&name=Technic%20Helicopter%20Rotor%20Holder&category=%5BTechnic%5D#T=C&C=9
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In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

Look just like the 12-tooth version just slightly smaller
 
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog Identification, waynewill writes:
  In Catalog Identification, TheCuteGiraffe writes:
  Sorry mate, my limited knowledge on the cups availability was all I got. But
I don't think they are in the catalog because of the very limited availability,
being only a 1 off thing.

Thanks for your help, that explains it I thought they would be there. Thanks
again.

Since you have photos of the cups, you could add them to the Brick catalog.
They should be added in the "Food & Drink" section of the Gear category.

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=G&catID=175

David

Thanks for that advice, I will see if I can do it. I'm not a seller so i
have done it before. i thought they would already be here thanks again.
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I have once, but only for a few days.

It was nice, then I went to italy AND THERE WAS PIZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Pizza is good thats why people should join the pizza gang.

๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ•๐Ÿ•
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In Catalog, TheCuteGiraffe writes:
  That makes 2 things I haven't seen

I guess you've never been to France!
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That makes 2 things I haven't seen
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In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

Post a picture - but I've never seen an 8-tooth gear with double bevel
 
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Dearly noted, thanks 1001!!

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In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

??

Post a picture - but I've never seen an 8-tooth gear with double bevel
 Author: TheCuteGiraffe View Messages Posted By TheCuteGiraffe
 Posted: Nov 13, 2022 17:07
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https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=3647&in=A&colorID=9&ov=Y
 Author: ccroxton View Messages Posted By ccroxton
 Posted: Nov 13, 2022 17:07
 Subject: Re: Technic, Gear 8 Tooth Double Bevel
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In Catalog, baylit writes:
  I don't see these in the Catalog.
Has anyone heard of these?
I have 2 - Light Gray
I can only guess what set they might have come from.

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Part No: 3647  Name: Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
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3647 Technic, Gear 8 Tooth
Parts: Technic, Gear {Light Gray}
maybe?

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