Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | leggodtshop  | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2022 16:32 | | Subject: | Re: Can BL help in this matter? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, McBricks writes:
| | Another buyer and I with the same last name got our orders mixed up. I have his
order and he has mine. I understand the mix up, but the seller will not even
respond to either of us to fix this problem. I clicked on Report problem on the
order form, but it only says
Send message (done multple times) (the other buyer and I have made contact twice)
&
File a non-shipping alert.
Where is the non-responding seller?
The other buyer and I could mail each other their items but I would be out priority
mail cost to the 1st class shipping cost of my original package and both of us
have already paid shipping to the selling store HHH Brick Depot.
Can BL help with this or not?
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I suggest you take your loss of the cost of shipping to each other, then at least
that problem is solved.
Of course start a NSS or NRS with the seller, but if that will resolve much
is uncertain. I don't think BL can do much or anything at all, what would
you like them to do?
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 26, 2022 01:13 | | Subject: | Re: ebay is getting to be a pain | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
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| In Off Topic, legoman77 writes:
| | In Off Topic, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | More than a wife or girlfriend or both.
John P
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Both? Bu-but you can't possibly have both together at the same time - I mean,
can you?
Anyway, BrickLink fees are simple, straight and reasonnable, which is the good
way to make business in the long run.
And this is also why many of us do love BrickLink.
So, stop complaining  and please stay away from eBay dear John!
And please PM me about this story one could get "both"  )
Take care of you.
Sylvain
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I cannot stay away from ebay. I am selling my huge collection of Simpsons.
I started with over 4200 different Simpsons items, from Kidrobot figures, Neca,
toasters, bowling balls, dinner ware, and fine china.. And I am selling my Wizkids
Star Trek Attack Wing and Heroclix. I had both lines complete and the Attack
Wing is selling very quickly. So I need ebay more than ebay needs me.
John P
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Clearly, that's why they charge so much ebay knows you need them 
Power to the OMP's!!
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 21, 2022 03:00 | | Subject: | Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, patpendlego writes:
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Well, obviously I can't give any details but also obviously I have emails
to prove this. Emails from shipping company / customs that shipment was on hold
until taxes were paid. Despite the fact that local state taxes were already paid
to BrickLink through PayPal.
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Can you tell us what was the amount (of the product)?
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Nope, no details, sorry.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 21, 2022 02:52 | | Subject: | Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, psusaxman2000 writes:
| | In Selling, patpendlego writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, patpendlego writes:
| | Vice versa is the same. I really don't like at all that I have to invoice
local US State Tax, that it gets transfered to my PayPal account and that PayPal
is taking it off again, transferring it to BrickLink and we all just have to
hope and pray BrickLink is indeed transferring it to the US State Tax authorities
again.
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It's not the same because U.S. customs won't try to collect state sales
tax when packages from outside the U.S. are delivered into the U.S. You won't
have a U.S. buyer come to you saying, "hey! They wouldn't give me my package
unless I paid sales tax/customs duties! I want a refund!"
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Not true. They do.
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If someone is telling you this, then they are lying to you. US customs will
only hold something if they fell it is illegal or otherwise a problem. They
have nothing to do with sales taxes as they are each managed at the state level.
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Well, obviously I can't give any details but also obviously I have emails
to prove this. Emails from shipping company / customs that shipment was on hold
until taxes were paid. Despite the fact that local state taxes were already paid
to BrickLink through PayPal.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2022 17:50 | | Subject: | Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
| | In Selling, patpendlego writes:
| | Vice versa is the same. I really don't like at all that I have to invoice
local US State Tax, that it gets transfered to my PayPal account and that PayPal
is taking it off again, transferring it to BrickLink and we all just have to
hope and pray BrickLink is indeed transferring it to the US State Tax authorities
again.
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It's not the same because U.S. customs won't try to collect state sales
tax when packages from outside the U.S. are delivered into the U.S. You won't
have a U.S. buyer come to you saying, "hey! They wouldn't give me my package
unless I paid sales tax/customs duties! I want a refund!"
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Not true. They do.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2022 15:44 | | Subject: | Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Shintaku writes:
| | This is happening every single time.
I buy on an extra EU store, then I have to pay VAT.
I didn't until some months ago, so now it's very annoying, but ok.
Then, I expect that VAT is paid and I have nothing more to pay.
And every single time I receive a package, the postman says there's more
to pay.
EVERY SINGLE TIME.
If the seller didn't attach the VAT invoice, that's the seller to blame.
But it happened also with VAT invoice attached.
I am tired of paying double every time. Bricklink did a mistake forcing us to
pay the VAT in advance, I'll stop buying from extra EU if this doesn't
find a solution soon.
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The EU wants to get a piece of the pie of small sales. Simple as that. In total
this small trades are a huge amount of money. The rest of the world however has
to deal with these new EU rules, do you really think they like doing that?
Vice versa is the same. I really don't like at all that I have to invoice
local US State Tax, that it gets transfered to my PayPal account and that PayPal
is taking it off again, transferring it to BrickLink and we all just have to
hope and pray BrickLink is indeed transferring it to the US State Tax authorities
again.
Local Tax money is travelling all over the world through accounts of people that
have nothing to do with it. And we have only to hope it all goes well.
In the meantime, the 10 richest men in the world has seen their wealth grown
by 100% in just 1 Corona year. There is something really really wrong with the
monetary system.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2022 14:56 | | Subject: | Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Shintaku writes:
| | This is happening every single time.
I buy on an extra EU store, then I have to pay VAT.
I didn't until some months ago, so now it's very annoying, but ok.
Then, I expect that VAT is paid and I have nothing more to pay.
And every single time I receive a package, the postman says there's more
to pay.
EVERY SINGLE TIME.
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It's illegal, but who is going to pay for the laywer to prove that?!?
As long as no one does, it can and will continue.
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If the seller didn't attach the VAT invoice, that's the seller to blame.
But it happened also with VAT invoice attached.
I am tired of paying double every time. Bricklink did a mistake forcing us to
pay the VAT in advance, I'll stop buying from extra EU if this doesn't
find a solution soon.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 20, 2022 14:54 | | Subject: | Re: I paid VAT on buying, and VAT again receiving | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Shintaku writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | In Selling, bobnikolov writes:
| | In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | | | If the seller didn't attach the VAT invoice, that's the seller to blame.
But it happened also with VAT invoice attached.
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It sounds like your local government agency doesn't know what it is doing
then, if they are charging VAT on every order that you import even if VAT is
already collected and displayed correctly.
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It happens here too. Even the VAT invoice is attached. So i stopped buying outside
of EU till this is cleared
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So long as BL is supplying sellers with the correct documentation there is not
really any more they can do. The cannot teach incompetent government systems
or officials.
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So basically, people from the EU will stop buying outside EU. This will damage
a lot the non-EU sellers.
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Do you really think the EU cares? Money going outside EU is a loss for businesses
inside EU, so they prefer(!) that you buy inside EU.
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However, what is the case that the seller did NOT attach the VAT invoice?
Because in this last case the seller did not attach anything and he claims that
bricklink did never send him a VAT invoice.
Is this possible?
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 19, 2022 17:25 | | Subject: | Re: VAT issue | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, CanadaFirst writes:
| | We shipped an order to Italy and included the VAT invoice.
The buyer says that they had to pay VAT again when they picked up their package
and now want us to refund them the VAT.
Our response was, so far, to tell them that we had included the VAT invoice as
we are supposed to do and that we can send them a copy of the VAT invoice by
email so that they can request that the taxes they paid in Italy be refunded
as they had already been paid.
We're waiting for their response but wondering how to handle this, if the
Italian authorities do not want to refund them I imagine they would have to get
in touch with Bricklink since we did not receive the amount for the VAT so we
can't refund it. How does this work in this case?
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Sorry for you this situation. For sure it's a local Italy issue, not yours.
Not the first time this happens and not the last too I guess. This whole implementation
of BrickLink is terrible. Local VAT/Tax charged by BrickLink, paid by buyer to
seller and then confiscated again by PayPal, transferring it to BrickLink again.
It's a circus.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2022 17:57 | | Subject: | Re: VAT invoice | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, patpendlego writes:
| | […]
Now now, a bit harsh reponse don't you think? The OP meant it well.
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So did I (meant it well, that is). From your reaction, I get now that someone
could read it as scoffing too but it’s just a genuine interrogation on what OP
meant by “not printed” (which I think is clear I took as “not physical” while
OP meant “written by hand,” as it was clarified in the next messages).
It’s the usual pitfall of written communication: the tone is missing and each
adds their own¹.
I’ll try to add more clues from now on.
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Well, it could have been my mood of the moment that read it like such. No hard
feelings I hope 
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(¹ Reminds me of this kid’s reaction just after seeing a Tintin movie: “It was
great but captain Haddock didn’t have the same voice as in the book.”)
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LOL
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2022 02:58 | | Subject: | Re: VAT invoice | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, rick_holl writes:
| | Hi,
I have to include a VAT invoice with a package.
Does it have to be a printed one?
My printer is not working right now.
Thank you
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As you say yourself, the invoice is to be included with the package.
So it must be printed and accessible from the outside of the package. Generally
it’s put in a transparent pouch.
Otherwise, what do you think “include an invoice with a package” might mean if
you don’t have a physical copy of said invoice? Write “the invoice can be seen
on https://…” on the package? 
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Now now, a bit harsh reponse don't you think? The OP meant it well.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 16, 2022 16:01 | | Subject: | Re: Shipping to USA | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, MRGolden51 writes:
| | Why on quite a few non-USA-based Sellers' Terms pages does it list the USA
as a country to which the Seller ships, but then a notice at the top of the page
states: Seller does not support orders shipping to New Mexico? Are foreigners
unaware that New Mexico is a USA state??
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If US states could be selected/unselected for shipping then New Mexico (in this
case) would have been unselected. But BrickLink allows for countries only to
be selected/unselected.
So, it is no that foreigners don't know New Mexico is a USA state but that
it can't be unselected.
Why sellers do not want to ship to New Mexico? Tax issues? Shipping issues?
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 15, 2022 07:11 | | Subject: | Re: White brick with holes? | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog Identification, Stuart9 writes:
| | Looks a little home made but unsure as it's not in front of me.
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I didn't think of that, but that's probably it. The holes are a bit unevenly
positioned (maybe 1/10th of a mm, but it's clear by comparison).
Thanks.
/Jan
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Well, I just thought about it some more. If it was a customized brick, what part
was it made from? I can't think of any.
BTW - It has "Pat. pend" in the bottom.
/Jan
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Nice find! I have never seen this brick before.
Paul
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 17:47 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, helge writes:
| | I have an order to Germany that Bricklink has charged VAT on, and the buyer is
asked to pay VAT on again to receive it.
The value of the parts is 149,3 EUR, and shipping is 6,9 EUR. Bricklink has calculated
the VAT on the total of that, but should that have been done?
The value is 156,2 EUR, and is above the 150 EUR limit.
The order were sent with IOSS number and all correct labels and documentation.
Who is correct: the German customs service or Bricklink?
Regards,
Helge
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Did you know we owe a thank you to the French for introducing VAT?
In 1953 the French started with TVA (la Taxe sur la Valeur Ajoutée). Soon after
it got introduced in Germany and then The Netherlands could not stay behind..........
The rest is history.
Have nice evening
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 17:43 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Technical Issues, patpendlego writes:
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Nope, not me. I do not even understand it at all, come on 99 pages to explain
VAT? Way to complex.
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Indeed, I got my Dutchmen named Paul all mixed up: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1226302
Sorry, Paul & Paul,
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No problem.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 17:16 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Technical Issues, Stellar writes:
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That PDF has a very good example:
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Yes.
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That should clear everything, thanks for finding it.
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I’m not the one who found it first, I think I was made aware of its existence
here, maybe by patpendlego himself?
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Nope, not me. I do not even understand it at all, come on 99 pages to explain
VAT? Way to complex.
| | And I now try to link & quote it in every discussion about the new EU VAT rules
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 14:04 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | If the shipping price doesn't contain VAT (like for stamps) or if you charge
the exact shipping price (with not any discount or not any addition), this is
tolerated and could fit in tax examptions, depending the Country.
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Sorry, that is a common mistake. Stamps are perhaps VAT free for the Postal Company
issuing the stamps but never for the user of stamps. Exact shipping price is
neither relevant.
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Then I guess it's different in France.
If you invoice an ***exact*** stamp price, then you're allowed not to charge
VAT.
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I guess it is. I have checked again several Dutch sources on this subject and
all state the same: charge VAT on S&H. No mentioning whatsoever on exact shipping
cost. Well... I guess I have to go talk to an expert about it
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | In fact, the BrickLink calculation depends (I guess) on the check boxes you've
set up in your shop settings about where VAT is applied, like: items, additional
fees 1 & 2, shipping, credit...
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That's right Sylvain, but most out of EU sellers don't have the VAT settings
(attached image) for those and probably they are unchecked by default. The calculation
should take that into account.
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Most don't have those enabled???
Mine are:
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I still think these are odd options. VAT must be charged on the total, including
all additional cost. Period. So far I've never heard or read about exceptions
like "exact shipping cost". I definitely would like to see proof of that case.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 13:49 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | Seems rather odd. In what situation would a seller charge VAT on the goods but
NOT on the S&H?? Afaik this is not allowed, the VAT % charged on S&H must be
the same as the % charged on the goods.
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If the shipping price doesn't contain VAT (like for stamps) or if you charge
the exact shipping price (with not any discount or not any addition), this is
tolerated and could fit in tax examptions, depending the Country.
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Sorry, that is a common mistake. Stamps are perhaps VAT free for the Postal Company
issuing the stamps but never for the user of stamps. Exact shipping price is
neither relevant.
But it might be different per country, although I doubt that very much inside
the EU it should be the same for all countries.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 13:26 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Technical Issues, helge writes:
| | I have an order to Germany that Bricklink has charged VAT on, and the buyer is
asked to pay VAT on again to receive it.
The value of the parts is 149,3 EUR, and shipping is 6,9 EUR. Bricklink has calculated
the VAT on the total of that, but should that have been done?
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This seems pretty obvious for me.
IF shipping has a VAT, then the total including shipping should be accounted
in the 150 threshold.
IF the shipping has no VAT, then it shouldn't count in the threshold.
In fact, the BrickLink calculation depends (I guess) on the check boxes you've
set up in your shop settings about where VAT is applied, like: items, additional
fees 1 & 2, shipping, credit...
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Seems rather odd. In what situation would a seller charge VAT on the goods but
NOT on the S&H?? Afaik this is not allowed, the VAT % charged on S&H must be
the same as the % charged on the goods.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, StarBrick writes:
| | In Technical Issues, helge writes:
exactly and this is why I stopped looking for parts outside the EU and selling
outside the EU....
Call me stupid, but this is exactly what the EU politicians wanted: (economic)
walls around fortress Europe  . To my opinion, this is part of the Trump-heritage.
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Ofcourse the EU wants more trade within their borders and less money going out.
It's what every commercial oriented system does: less cost, more income.
Any way.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 13:18 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, helge writes:
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Do anybody has actual information?
Is the 150 EUR limit for goods only, or is it for goods + shipping?
Regards,
Helge
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Ask your local experts on the subject. This kind of questions is depending on
too much variables, EU-law, local law, your business, etc. etc.
Good luck!
Paul
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Thanks, bud I am asking what the rules are into Germany. This is not a complex
question, and it does not depend on anything on my side. The limit is either
on the value of the goods or the value of goods + shipping.
Helge
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Still, a local expert on this should know the situation in Germany too. Here
on the Forum you will get a lot of opinions but who knows if these are expert
opinions.
Anyway, up to you what to believe
Paul
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 11:23 | | Subject: | Re: VAT calculation into Germany | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, helge writes:
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The value of the parts is less than € 150, so Bricklink has to calculated the
VAT. But VAT must be calculated on the value of goods and shipping costs.
Now, the German custo calculated the new VAT: value of the goods + shipping costs
+ VAT
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But what is correct? It can't be correct that ordres with value of goods
bellow 150, but total cost above 150 shall be charged VAT twice. Even EU is not
able to come up with such a law.
Helge
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Do anybody has actual information?
Is the 150 EUR limit for goods only, or is it for goods + shipping?
Regards,
Helge
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Ask your local experts on the subject. This kind of questions is depending on
too much variables, EU-law, local law, your business, etc. etc.
Good luck!
Paul
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2022 00:59 | | Subject: | Re: Buying from Russia (to EU) - VAT question | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Hurt writes:
| | Hi everyone,
I'd like to buy from a Russian store, but the checkout page seems weird (see
image).
EUR 33.66 for items, EUR 8.12 for VAT ... but why is it EUR 51.54 + shipping
at the end?
Thanks!
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Together with import duties and all, it might become quite expensive. I would
suggest asking a quote first before ordering.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2022 01:25 | | Subject: | Re: Sales Tax | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Dino1 writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, patpendlego writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Shiny_Stuff writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, BrickLady314 writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, peregrinator writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, BrickLady314 writes:
| | I'm just realizing that in the 2 months I've been making sales on Bricklink
that all the sales tax collected is actually coming to me in Paypal.
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It isn't - it's being deducted as a "Partner Fee"
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And I juuuuust figured that out. I thought I was losing my mind for a minute.
Thank you! I'm going to leave this up in case someone else is an idiot and
misses that major detail.
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One little detail that may or may not be important to anyone:
BrickLink does collect the sales tax on our behalf. AND they keep ALL OF IT.
There is no percentage of the sales tax for the actual seller -- only for
BrickLink, since they do the actual collecting and remitting to the tax collectors.
However, it is the actual SELLERS on BrickLink who get stuck paying the Paypal
fee on that entire tax amount. So whatever percentage of fee you are paying
to Paypal to process the payments, you are also paying that fee on the sales
tax money that you never even see.
If I am wrong about this, someone please say so. I would love to be wrong on
this.
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You guys are all in the US, so its at least your own country. However I am in
The NL and have nothing to do with US State Sales Tax whatsoever! Nevertheless
a sale to PA results in a PA Sales Tax on my account! PayPal fee to pay on it
too. Ridiculous.
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Thay do the same for "our" import tax.
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Yeah I know. What a ridiculous system. Local taxes traveling all over the world
into accounts of people who have nothing to do with it and no control over but
pay fees on it. Well, to "soften" the blow a tiny bit I can deduct the fee (as
cost) from my income and pay a little less income tax. How did they come up with
it...
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