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 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Jan 12, 2022 09:07
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  Thanks. I have one last question. For the new Sonic minifig
 
Minifig No: Idea104  Name: Sonic the Hedgehog - Light Nougat Face and Arms, Grin to Right
* 
idea104 (Inv) Sonic the Hedgehog - Light Nougat Face and Arms, Grin to Right
Minifigures: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO): Sonic the Hedgehog
,
I went to add an inventory for the torso assembly after it was added to the catalog,
but it says that inventory is N/A. Do I need to make a request to open this
up. I know it's minimal to put the torso, arms and hands together, but it
appears the rest of the set and minifig are online now and I just wanted to finish
it off.

N/A here just means "Not Available" (it hasn't been inventoried yet) rather
than "Not Applicable" (which typically refers to colors).
 Author: beaverbrick View Messages Posted By beaverbrick
 Posted: Jan 12, 2022 08:50
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
  
I've submitted and started making my edits here. Thanks. I have a few new
printed parts so I can just leave a note for the admins in there to approve
the parts first before they approve the set then correct?

  

Yep! They will not approve the set until it is complete. I use the Note to keep
track of items I need to add, variants I need to confirm, etc. Then, when I am
finished, I post a big happy 'Complete!' so they know to start checking
it.

By the way, it is just fine to add the stickered counterparts to a pending inventory,
but don't wait to mark it completed just for those. You can add them after
it is approved via the normal catalog request process.

Jen

This all makes sense. I kind of got in a grove when I was adding all the new
prints and such so they are all mixed together in the logs and I just submitted
the minifig as well. I will keep an eye on all the main pieces and "complete"
it once everything is through. Thanks for all the help.


You are doing a great job. Thanks for becoming a new contributor!

Thanks. I have one last question. For the new Sonic minifig
 
Minifig No: Idea104  Name: Sonic the Hedgehog - Light Nougat Face and Arms, Grin to Right
* 
idea104 (Inv) Sonic the Hedgehog - Light Nougat Face and Arms, Grin to Right
Minifigures: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO): Sonic the Hedgehog
,
I went to add an inventory for the torso assembly after it was added to the catalog,
but it says that inventory is N/A. Do I need to make a request to open this
up. I know it's minimal to put the torso, arms and hands together, but it
appears the rest of the set and minifig are online now and I just wanted to finish
it off.


You can add inventory for the torso assembly in much the same way as other inventories.
On the Catalog Add or Change screen, you want to select Add Inventory for a Part.
You can then enter the torso assembly ID number (973pb4539c01) and Number of
Entries is 3 in this case.
Go to Step 2 and enter the relevant data.
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 12, 2022 08:27
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
  
I've submitted and started making my edits here. Thanks. I have a few new
printed parts so I can just leave a note for the admins in there to approve
the parts first before they approve the set then correct?

  

Yep! They will not approve the set until it is complete. I use the Note to keep
track of items I need to add, variants I need to confirm, etc. Then, when I am
finished, I post a big happy 'Complete!' so they know to start checking
it.

By the way, it is just fine to add the stickered counterparts to a pending inventory,
but don't wait to mark it completed just for those. You can add them after
it is approved via the normal catalog request process.

Jen

This all makes sense. I kind of got in a grove when I was adding all the new
prints and such so they are all mixed together in the logs and I just submitted
the minifig as well. I will keep an eye on all the main pieces and "complete"
it once everything is through. Thanks for all the help.


You are doing a great job. Thanks for becoming a new contributor!

Thanks. I have one last question. For the new Sonic minifig
 
Minifig No: Idea104  Name: Sonic the Hedgehog - Light Nougat Face and Arms, Grin to Right
* 
idea104 (Inv) Sonic the Hedgehog - Light Nougat Face and Arms, Grin to Right
Minifigures: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO): Sonic the Hedgehog
,
I went to add an inventory for the torso assembly after it was added to the catalog,
but it says that inventory is N/A. Do I need to make a request to open this
up. I know it's minimal to put the torso, arms and hands together, but it
appears the rest of the set and minifig are online now and I just wanted to finish
it off.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 12, 2022 02:44
 Subject: Re: Dragons from Elves as parts?
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, agulus writes:
  Does any one consider to put dragons from Elves as parts
into the catalog with their own inventory?

Agnes

Per the BL rules these do not qualify as they would be large assemblies. See
below:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71

Items that should not be added to the catalog:
Rule 10:
Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into figures,
vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of a set and
should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the past for
some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other large assemblies
with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.

Although other dragons, whether named or not, such as Smaug and the castle dragon
are animals.
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 23:44
 Subject: Re: Dragons from Elves as parts?
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In Catalog, agulus writes:
  Does any one consider to put dragons from Elves as parts
into the catalog with their own inventory?

Agnes

Per the BL rules these do not qualify as they would be large assemblies. See
below:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71

Items that should not be added to the catalog:
Rule 10:
Large part assemblies. - Large assemblies of parts that can be built into figures,
vehicles, or other structures often comprise a substantial portion of a set and
should not be added to the catalog. An exception has been made in the past for
some DUPLO vehicles representing fictional characters and some other large assemblies
with the Item Number prefix "spa" which were added as experiment.
 Author: agulus View Messages Posted By agulus
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 22:04
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Does any one consider to put dragons from Elves as parts
into the catalog with their own inventory?

Agnes
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 14:19
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
  
I've submitted and started making my edits here. Thanks. I have a few new
printed parts so I can just leave a note for the admins in there to approve
the parts first before they approve the set then correct?

  

Yep! They will not approve the set until it is complete. I use the Note to keep
track of items I need to add, variants I need to confirm, etc. Then, when I am
finished, I post a big happy 'Complete!' so they know to start checking
it.

By the way, it is just fine to add the stickered counterparts to a pending inventory,
but don't wait to mark it completed just for those. You can add them after
it is approved via the normal catalog request process.

Jen

This all makes sense. I kind of got in a grove when I was adding all the new
prints and such so they are all mixed together in the logs and I just submitted
the minifig as well. I will keep an eye on all the main pieces and "complete"
it once everything is through. Thanks for all the help.


You are doing a great job. Thanks for becoming a new contributor!
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 14:17
 Subject: Re: Cool new part!
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In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified

Apparently no: TLG didn’t use them for the Sonic set that, apparently, uses a
ton of stacked 1x1s

Nice complement though, especially with the hollow stud.

Yeah, the hollow stud is more of interest to me than the height.

Is it actually hollow, or is it open? The name says "open", which suggests you
can push a bar straight through.

Niek.


It's completely open.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 14:15
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In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified

Apparently no: TLG didn’t use them for the Sonic set that, apparently, uses a
ton of stacked 1x1s

Nice complement though, especially with the hollow stud.

Yeah, the hollow stud is more of interest to me than the height.

Is it actually hollow, or is it open? The name says "open", which suggests you
can push a bar straight through.

Niek.

Yes, open, my mistake
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 14:11
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified

Apparently no: TLG didn’t use them for the Sonic set that, apparently, uses a
ton of stacked 1x1s

Nice complement though, especially with the hollow stud.

Agree, this would have been awesome for building and inventory of that set.
Over 200+ 1x1 plates in multiple colors included. Hopefully it will be more
widely used in the near future.
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 13:37
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified

Apparently no: TLG didn’t use them for the Sonic set that, apparently, uses a
ton of stacked 1x1s

Nice complement though, especially with the hollow stud.

Yeah, the hollow stud is more of interest to me than the height.

Is it actually hollow, or is it open? The name says "open", which suggests you
can push a bar straight through.

Niek.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 13:34
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified

Apparently no: TLG didn’t use them for the Sonic set that, apparently, uses a
ton of stacked 1x1s

Nice complement though, especially with the hollow stud.

Yeah, the hollow stud is more of interest to me than the height.
 Author: Classicsmiley View Messages Posted By Classicsmiley
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 11:34
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified

Apparently no: TLG didn’t use them for the Sonic set that, apparently, uses a
ton of stacked 1x1s

Nice complement though, especially with the hollow stud.

Yeah, I'm baffled why they didn't use this for Sonic. Seems like a very
good opportunity wasted.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 11:31
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified

Apparently no: TLG didn’t use them for the Sonic set that, apparently, uses a
ton of stacked 1x1s

Nice complement though, especially with the hollow stud.
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 11:28
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
  
I've submitted and started making my edits here. Thanks. I have a few new
printed parts so I can just leave a note for the admins in there to approve
the parts first before they approve the set then correct?

  

Yep! They will not approve the set until it is complete. I use the Note to keep
track of items I need to add, variants I need to confirm, etc. Then, when I am
finished, I post a big happy 'Complete!' so they know to start checking
it.

By the way, it is just fine to add the stickered counterparts to a pending inventory,
but don't wait to mark it completed just for those. You can add them after
it is approved via the normal catalog request process.

Jen

This all makes sense. I kind of got in a grove when I was adding all the new
prints and such so they are all mixed together in the logs and I just submitted
the minifig as well. I will keep an eye on all the main pieces and "complete"
it once everything is through. Thanks for all the help.
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 10:57
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I've submitted and started making my edits here. Thanks. I have a few new
printed parts so I can just leave a note for the admins in there to approve
the parts first before they approve the set then correct?

  

Yep! They will not approve the set until it is complete. I use the Note to keep
track of items I need to add, variants I need to confirm, etc. Then, when I am
finished, I post a big happy 'Complete!' so they know to start checking
it.

By the way, it is just fine to add the stickered counterparts to a pending inventory,
but don't wait to mark it completed just for those. You can add them after
it is approved via the normal catalog request process.

Jen
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 10:46
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Does this mean we can finally stop stacking 1x1 plates?!?

 
Part No: 86996  Name: Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
* 
86996 Brick, Modified 1 x 1 x 2/3 with Open Stud
Parts: Brick, Modified
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 10:44
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In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
You can view all the PCC's for a part by clicking on the Small Images link
alongside the main picture on the Catalog Detail page. You may have to scroll
down to see it.


I think I'm missing something here. Maybe I'm not in the right location.
I've attached an image for the part, but can't find the button or link
you are referring to.

The link used to be called small images in the past, but it is now called color
images. Click on that and you'll see images of the part in all colors. Below
that is a list with all the PCC's

Whoops! Thanks for clarifying and explaining about the link.

Maybe one day I will get the Small Image term out of my head.

Jen
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 09:57
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  1) Do I inventory the head, torso and legs individually and then add them to
an inventory for the minifig like you would a set?

You can add the minifigure first, then add the new parts, then add the minifigure
inventory,

  3) For the main set, do I add the minifig to the set inventory then? How do
you make this association of the minifig to the set itself?

Yes - the minifigure (but not its parts*) should be added to the set inventory.

*Extra parts (e.g. an extra visor) should be added to the set inventory,
as well as any minifigure accessories that aren't part of the actual minifigure
build as shown in the instructions. For example, if the character wears a helmet
in the build, the hair (if any) should be part of the set inventory. Extra
minifigure parts go in the set's extras.
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 09:47
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Next set of questions. I'm working on the Sonic Minifigure which is new
as well.

1) Do I inventory the head, torso and legs individually and then add them to
an inventory for the minifig like you would a set?

2) The minifigure add page is much different than the parts page with the categories.
I'm thinking I should have (cat 1: Lego Ideas (CUUSOO), cat 2: Sonic the
Hedgehog)? Is this correct?

3) For the main set, do I add the minifig to the set inventory then? How do
you make this association of the minifig to the set itself?
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 09:42
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In Catalog, paulvdb writes:
  In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
You can view all the PCC's for a part by clicking on the Small Images link
alongside the main picture on the Catalog Detail page. You may have to scroll
down to see it.


I think I'm missing something here. Maybe I'm not in the right location.
I've attached an image for the part, but can't find the button or link
you are referring to.

The link used to be called small images in the past, but it is now called color
images. Click on that and you'll see images of the part in all colors. Below
that is a list with all the PCC's

Perfect, thank you. Still so much that I'm learning here.
 Author: paulvdb View Messages Posted By paulvdb
 Posted: Jan 11, 2022 00:04
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
You can view all the PCC's for a part by clicking on the Small Images link
alongside the main picture on the Catalog Detail page. You may have to scroll
down to see it.


I think I'm missing something here. Maybe I'm not in the right location.
I've attached an image for the part, but can't find the button or link
you are referring to.

The link used to be called small images in the past, but it is now called color
images. Click on that and you'll see images of the part in all colors. Below
that is a list with all the PCC's
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 10, 2022 23:34
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  
You can view all the PCC's for a part by clicking on the Small Images link
alongside the main picture on the Catalog Detail page. You may have to scroll
down to see it.


I think I'm missing something here. Maybe I'm not in the right location.
I've attached an image for the part, but can't find the button or link
you are referring to.

  
I made quite a loud fuss when they buried that link since it is super valuable
to catalog work, but alas, no one listened.

  
I didn't have to type everything in, but there are 49 additional entries
for extra parts, 18 stickered counterparts and multiple new parts. I had a lot
of those field update plus the edits for the variants that needed to be adjusted
that all got wiped away.

If I were you, I would not use the Manual Add form to work on any of that stuff.
Just get the basics in and then Edit your pending inventory for the rest. There
is a bug in the system and if you make any mistake and have to go back from the
verify page, you could lose all your work anyway.

Yup, just found that out....ugh

   Just update the Blue boxes,
make a note of all the Red boxes that need to be added later (deleting any information
leftover in those Red boxes), and submit.
The Edit Inventory page works very well. Just leave a note for the admins when
you are ready for them to confirm you work.

I've submitted and started making my edits here. Thanks. I have a few new
printed parts so I can just leave a note for the admins in there to approve
the parts first before they approve the set then correct?

  
Jen
 
 Author: jennnifer View Messages Posted By jennnifer
 Posted: Jan 10, 2022 21:35
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  
I've looked at all 10 of the parts that were included and they are all 87609
in black with a (c) 2009 stamped on the bottom. I'm wondering if maybe there
was just never a PCC number added for that part. I wasn't sure how to find
the PCC number in the system, but went back into an older set with this part
and found a PCC #4653049 which bring to the same part. I'll add a new PCC
number after the set is added.


You can view all the PCC's for a part by clicking on the Small Images link
alongside the main picture on the Catalog Detail page. You may have to scroll
down to see it.

I made quite a loud fuss when they buried that link since it is super valuable
to catalog work, but alas, no one listened.

  
I didn't have to type everything in, but there are 49 additional entries
for extra parts, 18 stickered counterparts and multiple new parts. I had a lot
of those field update plus the edits for the variants that needed to be adjusted
that all got wiped away.

If I were you, I would not use the Manual Add form to work on any of that stuff.
Just get the basics in and then Edit your pending inventory for the rest. There
is a bug in the system and if you make any mistake and have to go back from the
verify page, you could lose all your work anyway. Just update the Blue boxes,
make a note of all the Red boxes that need to be added later (deleting any information
leftover in those Red boxes), and submit.
The Edit Inventory page works very well. Just leave a note for the admins when
you are ready for them to confirm you work.

Jen
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Jan 10, 2022 21:12
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In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
  In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  I didn't have to type everything in, but there are 49 additional entries
for extra parts, 18 stickered counterparts and multiple new parts. I had a lot
of those field update plus the edits for the variants that needed to be adjusted
that all got wiped away.

That's awesome that you're inventorying the counterparts too, but not
strictly necessary when inventorying a new set.

It was small enough and felt it was worth the extra effort now so that I didn't
have to come back later to do it. I just had other stuff going on over the weekend
so I though I could let it sit. I was just hesitant to hit the submit button
having not done it before and thinking it would submit a partial set.
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  I didn't have to type everything in, but there are 49 additional entries
for extra parts, 18 stickered counterparts and multiple new parts. I had a lot
of those field update plus the edits for the variants that needed to be adjusted
that all got wiped away.

That's awesome that you're inventorying the counterparts too, but not
strictly necessary when inventorying a new set.
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In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
  In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  I'm trying to do my first set inventory for BL with the new
 
Set No: 21331  Name: Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone
* 
21331-1 (Inv) Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone
1003 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2022
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO): Sonic the Hedgehog

Congrats and thanks!

Thank you. I've learned a lot from this group over the last almost two years
and felt it was time to take the next step. I've enjoyed adding stickered
parts for the sets that I've been collecting so this set just worked well
to continue that.
  
  Secondly, there is one part
 
Part No: 87609  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs on Side
* 
87609 Plate, Modified 2 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Black}
that has a new PCC number in this catalog.
I don't see anything different from the already listed part but the PCC
number for this catalog entry is different (new=6401209)

If you find a new PCC, it is best to check the part to confirm the mold number
is the same. Then, submit a Change Request adding the new PCC. There is an option
to choose the Seq ID and select the next available number.


I've looked at all 10 of the parts that were included and they are all 87609
in black with a (c) 2009 stamped on the bottom. I'm wondering if maybe there
was just never a PCC number added for that part. I wasn't sure how to find
the PCC number in the system, but went back into an older set with this part
and found a PCC #4653049 which bring to the same part. I'll add a new PCC
number after the set is added.

  
  
Lastly, can I submit the main inventory page and then still make edits to it
as I create these last few parts and minifig?

Yes, definitely. There will be a link on your Add or Change tab for New Inventories.

Perfect, I'll add what I have and amend the rest as I go on.
  
I had the set reserved over the
  weekend and the lost the reservation because it only holds for three days apparently.
I don't want to lose all the work that I've typed in for all the parts
again.

You should not have to type in all the parts, the data from LEGO will likely
be available for you to start the process. You do not have to wait until all
your parts are in the catalog. Just leave a Note for the admin about the progress
of your inventory and keep updating it as you work.

I didn't have to type everything in, but there are 49 additional entries
for extra parts, 18 stickered counterparts and multiple new parts. I had a lot
of those field update plus the edits for the variants that needed to be adjusted
that all got wiped away.
  
  
I'm sure I'll have a few more questions but this should get me going
for now.

Happy to help!
Jen
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  
Lastly, can I submit the main inventory page and then still make edits to it
as I create these last few parts and minifig? I had the set reserved over the
weekend and the lost the reservation because it only holds for three days apparently.
I don't want to lose all the work that I've typed in for all the parts
again.


To get an idea of how we all submit and edit inventories, you can see on this
page all the pending inventories and our Notes communicating with the admins
about our progress:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?invPend=Y&catType=S

From the Add or Change tab: Approval Pending Overview
Then scroll down to Inventories Pending Approval and click By Item Type: Sets

Jen
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In Catalog, psusaxman2000 writes:
  I'm trying to do my first set inventory for BL with the new
 
Set No: 21331  Name: Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone
* 
21331-1 (Inv) Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone
1003 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2022
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO): Sonic the Hedgehog

Congrats and thanks!

  While it's not what I would consider a large set, there are still a number
of pieces that need to be adjusted and created. I've gone through the process
of creating and requesting all the stickered parts with images already. There
are a few new parts that need to be added to the catalog along with the new Sonic
minifig as well.

For these new parts (printed) I'm assuming that I should go through the same
process to create the new part in the system then add it to the inventory list?
Since some of these parts are printed, they have PCC numbers as well but I don't
see the PCC number anywhere in the add/change item tool. How do I make sure
this is added?

Add the new parts with the same process. After a part is approved, you submit
a Change Request to add the PCC for your color. From the Add or Change tab, choose
Change Item: - Part

  
Secondly, there is one part
 
Part No: 87609  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs on Side
* 
87609 Plate, Modified 2 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Black}
that has a new PCC number in this catalog.
I don't see anything different from the already listed part but the PCC
number for this catalog entry is different (new=6401209)

If you find a new PCC, it is best to check the part to confirm the mold number
is the same. Then, submit a Change Request adding the new PCC. There is an option
to choose the Seq ID and select the next available number.

  
Lastly, can I submit the main inventory page and then still make edits to it
as I create these last few parts and minifig?

Yes, definitely. There will be a link on your Add or Change tab for New Inventories.

I had the set reserved over the
  weekend and the lost the reservation because it only holds for three days apparently.
I don't want to lose all the work that I've typed in for all the parts
again.

You should not have to type in all the parts, the data from LEGO will likely
be available for you to start the process. You do not have to wait until all
your parts are in the catalog. Just leave a Note for the admin about the progress
of your inventory and keep updating it as you work.
  
I'm sure I'll have a few more questions but this should get me going
for now.

Happy to help!
Jen
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I'm trying to do my first set inventory for BL with the new
 
Set No: 21331  Name: Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone
* 
21331-1 (Inv) Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone
1003 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 2022
Sets: LEGO Ideas (CUUSOO): Sonic the Hedgehog
While it's not what I would consider a large set, there are still a number
of pieces that need to be adjusted and created. I've gone through the process
of creating and requesting all the stickered parts with images already. There
are a few new parts that need to be added to the catalog along with the new Sonic
minifig as well.

For these new parts (printed) I'm assuming that I should go through the same
process to create the new part in the system then add it to the inventory list?
Since some of these parts are printed, they have PCC numbers as well but I don't
see the PCC number anywhere in the add/change item tool. How do I make sure
this is added?

Secondly, there is one part
 
Part No: 87609  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs on Side
* 
87609 Plate, Modified 2 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs on Side
Parts: Plate, Modified {Black}
that has a new PCC number in this catalog.
I don't see anything different from the already listed part but the PCC
number for this catalog entry is different (new=6401209)

Lastly, can I submit the main inventory page and then still make edits to it
as I create these last few parts and minifig? I had the set reserved over the
weekend and the lost the reservation because it only holds for three days apparently.
I don't want to lose all the work that I've typed in for all the parts
again.

I'm sure I'll have a few more questions but this should get me going
for now.
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Well I have the answer from BrickOwl:

Most of the bricks do have 2 rows of windows, most of them printed, some of them
stickered, but there are some with single rows.

I can't find a copy of the instructions anywhere online to double check,
but looking at the pics I suspect this brick is at the front of the captain's
bridge (see pic).
If you look at a pic of the sticker sheet, it's the sticker top right.

Mine is stickered, so please help?

It is perfectly stickered,yes.
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In Catalog, Legomanijak91 writes:
  Can anybody tell me which part is this? I assume it is from some old Ferry (maybe
1658?) set but I can't find it in catalog. This is sticker not decoration
on the brick.
And how much does it worth?

Thank you!

Dusan

If it is sticker and not a print, is the sticker correctly added? In other words,
is the correct sticker on the correct part based on the instructions of the set?

If so, I can help with that.
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In Catalog, Legomanijak91 writes:
  It is a brick at the front of the captain's bridge (1658 set). How to add
this to inventory to sell?

You mentioned it was a sticker? Looks like it will have to be added as a part,
then added to the set as a counterpart.
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It is a brick at the front of the captain's bridge (1658 set). How to add
this to inventory to sell?
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In Catalog, Legomanijak91 writes:
  Can anybody tell me which part is this? I assume it is from some old Ferry (maybe
1658?) set but I can't find it in catalog. This is sticker not decoration
on the brick.
And how much does it worth?

Thank you!

Dusan

Looks like maybe a misprint of
 
Part No: 3010p21  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Ferry Squares Light Blue in 2 Lines Pattern
* 
3010p21 Brick 1 x 4 with Ferry Squares Light Blue in 2 Lines Pattern
Parts: Brick, Decorated
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Can anybody tell me which part is this? I assume it is from some old Ferry (maybe
1658?) set but I can't find it in catalog. This is sticker not decoration
on the brick.
And how much does it worth?

Thank you!

Dusan
 
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Jan 8, 2022 21:44
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I noticed today that the description for
 
Part No: 3626bpb0048  Name: Minifigure, Head Mask Small with Green Eyes, Stubble, Thin Wide Moustache over Mouth Line Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
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3626bpb0048 Minifigure, Head Mask Small with Green Eyes, Stubble, Thin Wide Moustache over Mouth Line Pattern - Blocked Open Stud
Parts: Minifigure, Head
says "Glasses." I always thought this guy was wearing a slim black robber's
type mask. (After all, the head is only found as part of the Brickster, who
is a robber or criminal of some kind.)

Before I make a name change request, does anyone know of any backstory from the
Xtreme Stunts theme that would indicate that his face covering is anything besides
a mask?

The black mask in the attached photo from A Christmas Story is the style
I think it looks like.

David
 
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Hello,

I'm trying to build a little piece of code for my own use, and I was wondering
where to find the list of alternate parts.

When on Bricklink I can search for part 2444, and the result give me alternate
or related item part as 10247

such as in this page: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2444&name=Plate,%20Modified%202%20x%202%20with%20Pin%20Hole&category=%5BPlate,%20Modified%5D#T=C

I have download I believe all possible files from bricklink (https://www.bricklink.com/catalogDownload.asp)

But I cannot find a file which will help me identify the possible alternate part.

I looked a the parts.txt and codes.txt files, but cannot find anything.

I see this in the codes.txt file for the 2 parts I'm using as an example:
But I see no way to "pair" some parts as identical with this information

2444 Black 244426
2444 Blue 244423
2444 Blue 4529003
2444 Dark Bluish Gray 4196768
2444 Dark Purple 4261216
2444 Green 4161728
2444 Light Bluish Gray 2444194
2444 Light Bluish Gray 4211359
2444 Medium Blue 4261128
2444 Red 244421
2444 Tan 4206666
2444 White 244401
2444 Yellow 244424

10247 Black 6061032
10247 Dark Bluish Gray 6047417
10247 Light Bluish Gray 6045988
10247 Red 6014616
10247 Tan 6302263
10247 White 6061024
10247 Yellow 6061025



Any help is welcome, thank you
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jan 8, 2022 14:00
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In Catalog, Mmartin1980 writes:
  could these be added as counter parts to the Heartlake City Park Cafe set, as
there's no listings for counterparts in the set i.e. sticker applied parts
like in other set listings

2x 57895 1x4x6 Glass
1x 26603 2x3 tile
1x 87079 2x4 tile
1x 3068B 2x2 Tile


Please follow the tutorials at the link provided to learn how to submit stickered
counterparts to the catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1191009

Cheers,
Randy
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could these be added as counter parts to the Heartlake City Park Cafe set, as
there's no listings for counterparts in the set i.e. sticker applied parts
like in other set listings

2x 57895 1x4x6 Glass
1x 26603 2x3 tile
1x 87079 2x4 tile
1x 3068B 2x2 Tile
 
 Author: pgremeau View Messages Posted By pgremeau
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  Hello everyone,
2022 release:

- LEGO "Vibrant Yellow" was added as BrickLink "Neon Yellow"


Totally agree!

But now, regular Yellow looks Orange, slightly lighter than BLO...
 
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Thanks for all the clarification!
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Hello everyone,

Apologies for the canceled post about colors the other day. We got our wires
crossed behind the scenes and in the effort to get a new color ready for use,
there was some miscommunication.

We have released a new color, Neon Yellow. The official LEGO name is Vibrant
Yellow (368):

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogColors.asp?utm_content=subnav

There has been much discussion recently around the subject of color, specifically
how official LEGO color names relate to BrickLink color names. To explain a little
of why and how these differences happen, here are some examples of new colors
entering the marketplace:

2011/2012 releases:

- LEGO "Dark Azur" was added as BrickLink "Dark Azure" (name adjusted for English
language spelling)
- LEGO "Medium Azur" was added as BrickLink "Medium Azure" (name adjusted for
English language spelling)
- LEGO "Aqua" was added as BrickLink "Light Aqua" (named adjusted because BrickLink
already had an "Aqua" and this was lighter than that color)
- LEGO "Medium Lavender" was added as BrickLink "Medium Lavender" (no change)
- LEGO "Lavender" was added as BrickLink "Lavender" (no change)
- LEGO "Spring Yellowish Green" was added as BrickLink "Yellowish Green" ("Spring"
was removed for simplicity)
- LEGO "Olive Green" was added as BrickLink "Olive Green" (no change)

2019 release:

- LEGO "Vibrant Coral" was added as BrickLink "Coral"

In 2020, the "Opal" series of colors started to be released. These were called
"Satin" colors on BrickLink. 2020 also saw the replacement of the keyword "Flesh"
with "Nougat".

2022 release:

- LEGO "Vibrant Yellow" was added as BrickLink "Neon Yellow"

*************************************

General principles for naming new BrickLink colors:

1. When possible, the official LEGO color name is adopted as the BrickLink color
name.

2. Spellings are changed to BrickLink conventions, i.e. American English.

3. Extra keywords are removed (e.g. there is no need for a modifier in front
of "Coral").

4. Care is taken to relate the new color name to other BrickLink names of similar
colors.

5. Non color-specific adjectives are replaced with more concrete terms, i.e.
Stone = Bluish

6. Everyday color names often replace more exotic names: Medium Lilac = Dark
Purple.
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In Catalog, Bricklanta writes:
  Why does the new Minifig Vented Stud Head 28621 (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=28621)
say that release years are from 2013 when its first appearance in a set was in
2018?

Year of Release is tied to what inventories a part appears in. The vented stud
is listed as an alternate in a set that has been in production since 2013. The
data is not an indication of actual LEGO production.

Jen
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Why does the new Minifig Vented Stud Head 28621 (https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=28621)
say that release years are from 2013 when its first appearance in a set was in
2018?
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, SurplusParts writes:
  I want to add the weight and size of an instruction booklet into the catalogue.

On the "Add or Change" there is nothing listed as instructions to where i can
do this.

Where do it do it?

Cheers

Its under the set change request:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=S

Ahh, yes, thanks very much.
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In Catalog, SurplusParts writes:
  I want to add the weight and size of an instruction booklet into the catalogue.

On the "Add or Change" there is nothing listed as instructions to where i can
do this.

Where do it do it?

Cheers

Its under the set change request:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp?itemType=S
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I want to add the weight and size of an instruction booklet into the catalogue.

On the "Add or Change" there is nothing listed as instructions to where i can
do this.

Where do it do it?

Cheers
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In Catalog Requests, Alywin.HK writes:
  Release of year should be 2022

I think that gets filled in automatically when a minifigure becomes part of a
set's inventory.
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In Catalog Requests, Alywin.HK writes:
  Release of year should be 2022

Items in the catalog get the year automatically from the inventores they are
in.
Once this one is added to the set it comes from it will show up.
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Release of year should be 2022
 Author: pikachu3 View Messages Posted By pikachu3
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In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
  In Catalog, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
  Curious - why is this thread cancelled? Is this because the new color will no
longer be added? Was this news not meant to be published?

Niek.

‘Vibrant Coral’ is now ‘Coral’ again and ‘Vibrant Yellow’ is now ‘Neon Yellow’.

Ah. Would be great if there were a new thread from the BL catalog team, especially
with the other color info from the last decade that has been scrubbed with this
thread cancellation.

Niek.

Yes, please create a new announcement post once you settle on a name, @admins

Ryan
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Thanks Randy
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Alico64 writes:
  In Catalog, cupcakegirl writes:
  It means that no one has sold that item in the last 6 months.

But is this preferred? The price guide doesn't only show what has been sold,
but also what's currently for sale. For buyers, this might not necessarily
be important, but for sellers, this could be a strategic tool.

I believe it also depends on your buying filter about location: they are for
sale but you don’t want to see them, so they are not shown

That makes sense, I guess there were no sellers in the area I am comparing my
pricing against. Thanks!
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 Posted: Jan 3, 2022 07:15
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Buongiorno, sono nuovo del forum.
Mi sto avvicinando nuovamente al fantastico mondo dei lego, ma vorrei capire
come leggere bene il catalogo, dove trovare le informazioni relative al valore
del pezzo (o set) nuovo, il valore dell'usato e la sua rarità eventualmente.
Grazie a tutti per la disponibilità.
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In Catalog, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
  Curious - why is this thread cancelled? Is this because the new color will no
longer be added? Was this news not meant to be published?

Niek.

‘Vibrant Coral’ is now ‘Coral’ again and ‘Vibrant Yellow’ is now ‘Neon Yellow’.

Ah. Would be great if there were a new thread from the BL catalog team, especially
with the other color info from the last decade that has been scrubbed with this
thread cancellation.

Niek.
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In Catalog, qwertyboy writes:
  Curious - why is this thread cancelled? Is this because the new color will no
longer be added? Was this news not meant to be published?

Niek.

‘Vibrant Coral’ is now ‘Coral’ again and ‘Vibrant Yellow’ is now ‘Neon Yellow’.
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Curious - why is this thread cancelled? Is this because the new color will no
longer be added? Was this news not meant to be published?

Niek.
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In Catalog, Poncke writes:
  I am a bit confused seeing Town as theme.

For example, I have these 3 sets, which are City Space Set#

3368 Space Center
3365 Space Moon Buggy
3367 Space Shuttle

Yet on BL they are categorised as

Town City Space Port Set#

This seems incorrect. The Town theme does not seem to exist in LEGO. The main
theme is City.
And Space Port is not a subtheme either.

Any feedback is appreciated.


They are historical BrickLink classifications.

Vintage sets were not themed, so everything to do with a city was categorized
as "Town" on BrickLink. Once the "City" theme was named, it was created as a
subset of "Town" so that all sets related to a city could be found by the "Town"
category search.

"Space Port" is the category used on BrickLink to categorize things that relate
to space but are realistic and Earth-focused in origin. It is a BrickLink specific
subtheme.

For future information, BrickLink's classification system is different from
other sites.
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In Catalog, Alico64 writes:
  In Catalog, cupcakegirl writes:
  It means that no one has sold that item in the last 6 months.

But is this preferred? The price guide doesn't only show what has been sold,
but also what's currently for sale. For buyers, this might not necessarily
be important, but for sellers, this could be a strategic tool.

I believe it also depends on your buying filter about location: they are for
sale but you don’t want to see them, so they are not shown
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In Catalog, cupcakegirl writes:
  It means that no one has sold that item in the last 6 months.

But is this preferred? The price guide doesn't only show what has been sold,
but also what's currently for sale. For buyers, this might not necessarily
be important, but for sellers, this could be a strategic tool.
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I am a bit confused seeing Town as theme.

For example, I have these 3 sets, which are City Space Set#

3368 Space Center
3365 Space Moon Buggy
3367 Space Shuttle

Yet on BL they are categorised as

Town City Space Port Set#

This seems incorrect. The Town theme does not seem to exist in LEGO. The main
theme is City.
And Space Port is not a subtheme either.

Any feedback is appreciated.
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It means that no one has sold that item in the last 6 months.
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Occasionally, I run into items that don't have a price guide tab, but only
Items for sale and Color Info. What does it mean if this is missing? Is this
an indication that the item has never been sold, or is there a min. amount of
sales that should take place, before this is added?
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.

IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).


So how about you ignore them, and other people that want to use them to identify
parts that naturally fit together can use them. I find there are many keywords
added to descriptions that I never use and are therefore superfluous (at least
to my way of searching).

In all my 50 years of playing, collecting, buying, selling and talking about
lego slopes I never ever had the need of something like a 45 degree roof or 33
degree rampage I just wanted to built a good looking roof .

So I never gave it any thought or attention, indeed just ignoring it most
of the time. The one time it is practical is when sorting the slopes online to
find all the ones alike.

And that is the point of the label, knowing which ones work together.

For example, [p=3046a]

No doubt you can come up with dimensions to code up the system that will be the
same as regular slopes, but the two character "45" (3 if you include a space)
is much more efficient. It doesn't matter what the exact angle is, just like
it doesn't matter if all the torsos with "ascot" have true ascot ties, or
neckerchiefs, or cravats, or whatever someone wants to call them. Learning it
is called an ascot here finds them all, so long as the term is used consistently.
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In Catalog, M_R writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

I agree to a certain point but if we would get rid of the angles, then we would
need the height for some slopes. Not sure what would be best though.

 
Part No: 3043  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
* 
3043 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 3300  Name: Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
* 
3300 Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope

Yes. Where needed, replace given angle with the missing dimension.

Giving more perspective to the slope

This really is a slippery slope topic !

A topic with various angles and no right angles
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

I agree to a certain point but if we would get rid of the angles, then we would
need the height for some slopes. Not sure what would be best though.

 
Part No: 3043  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
* 
3043 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 3300  Name: Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
* 
3300 Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope

Yes. Where needed, replace given angle with the missing dimension.

Giving more perspective to the slope

This really is a slippery slope topic !
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Thanks for that.

There was a large range of clothing/gear/notepads etc released as an exclusive
Target / Lego line in December.

In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, BeatBreakBricks writes:
  Hi there

New to the forum.

Does anyone know if items from the Target exclusive range will be uploaded to
the catalog?

Not sure what is meant by "Target exclusive range" but here are Co-branded items:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?promoCatID=209
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Alright awesome! Perhaps I can help with the other colours?

In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  I am working on adding the white spaceman plush to the catalog.

In Catalog, BeatBreakBricks writes:
  Hi there

New to the forum.

Does anyone know if items from the Target exclusive range will be uploaded to
the catalog?
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I am working on adding the white spaceman plush to the catalog.

In Catalog, BeatBreakBricks writes:
  Hi there

New to the forum.

Does anyone know if items from the Target exclusive range will be uploaded to
the catalog?
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In Catalog, BeatBreakBricks writes:
  Hi there

New to the forum.

Does anyone know if items from the Target exclusive range will be uploaded to
the catalog?

Not sure what is meant by "Target exclusive range" but here are Co-branded items:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?promoCatID=209
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In Catalog, BeatBreakBricks writes:
  Hi there

New to the forum.

Does anyone know if items from the Target exclusive range will be uploaded to
the catalog?


Yes, if someone does.
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Hi there

New to the forum.

Does anyone know if items from the Target exclusive range will be uploaded to
the catalog?
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  
  
  There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.

IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).


So how about you ignore them, and other people that want to use them to identify
parts that naturally fit together can use them. I find there are many keywords
added to descriptions that I never use and are therefore superfluous (at least
to my way of searching).

In all my 50 years of playing, collecting, buying, selling and talking about
lego slopes I never ever had the need of something like a 45 degree roof or 33
degree rampage I just wanted to built a good looking roof .

So I never gave it any thought or attention, indeed just ignoring it most
of the time. The one time it is practical is when sorting the slopes online to
find all the ones alike.
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, eileenkeeney writes:
  […]
So folks are measuring different things, explaining the different results. That
makes complete sense.

Yes… well… except for “33”: the only way I can find to get to that number is
to say “the brick is 3 units long and 1 unit high which makes it a 33% slope”
(%, not °, not a typo), except that the vertical unit is not the same as the
horizontal one and it counts the stud.
That or discaculia or dislexia (changing 31° into 33)…
… and a mighty bunch of people just repeating without understanding and/or correcting.

Just enough mystery for the words “Templars” or “aliens” to come to mind


Also makes me think of this joke:

A foreign lord is visiting a monastery, and the abbot explains how the monks
work at copying manuscripts.  And the lord asks:
“So, the monks copy the original books?”
“Oh, no!  Those are too precious and fragile, they are copying the last copy.”
“But what happens if someone makes an error in copying?  Then the error will
be copied again and other errors will be added?”
At these words, a monk working next to them jumps from his seat and rushes out.
Everyone is astounded for a minute and then they hear wails and cries and go
check what it’s about.
They quickly find the monk in the archives, were the oldest books are kept.
He’s holding an old parchment and crying.
“What’s he holding?” asks the lord.
“Oh, it looks like the original of our order’s rules” answers the abbot.
“And why is he crying?”
And the crying monk says “It’s celebrate!  Not celibate!”

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In Catalog, eileenkeeney writes:
  […]
So folks are measuring different things, explaining the different results. That
makes complete sense.

Yes… well… except for “33”: the only way I can find to get to that number is
to say “the brick is 3 units long and 1 unit high which makes it a 33% slope”
(%, not °, not a typo), except that the vertical unit is not the same as the
horizontal one and it counts the stud.
That or discaculia or dislexia (changing 31° into 33)…
… and a mighty bunch of people just repeating without understanding and/or correcting.

Just enough mystery for the words “Templars” or “aliens” to come to mind


Also makes me think of this joke:

A foreign lord is visiting a monastery, and the abbot explains how the monks
work at copying manuscripts.  And the lord asks:
“So, the monks copy the original books?”
“Oh, no!  Those are too precious and fragile, they are copying the last copy.”
“But what happens if someone makes an error in copying?  Then the error will
be copied again and other errors will be added?”
At these words, a monk working next to them jumps from his seat and rushes out.
Everyone is astounded for a minute and then they hear wails and cries and go
check what it’s about.
They quickly find the monk in the archives, were the oldest books are kept.
He’s holding an old parchment and crying.
“What’s he holding?” asks the lord.
“Oh, it looks like the original of our order’s rules” answers the abbot.
“And why is he crying?”
And the crying monk says “It’s celebrate!  Not celibate!”
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, eileenkeeney writes:
  In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  You couldn't be more wrong
Remeasure and recalculate.

In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  You are correct. With my digital angle tool for wood trim, it appears to be
between 43 and 43.3 degrees.

The 33 1x3 is about 25.5 degrees.

  It has to be less than 45, not more than 45 because when I put two together (slope
to slope) I get an angle very slightly less than 90 degrees. This was the easiest
test for me to do. The measurement of the actual slope can not include the full
length and height, just the length and height of the part containing the actual
slope.

Are you saying my logic is wrong, or that the digital tool is wrong?

I am only trying to show that the angle is less than 45 degrees.
Can you explain why this test is not accurate for determining if the angle is
less than 45 degrees?
The bottom of the piece runs parallel to the adjacent side of the triangle
The back of the piece runs parallel to the opposite side of the triangle
Therefore, if the angle is greater than 45 degrees, shouldn't the angle of
the combined pieces, as shown in the below image, form an angle of more than
90 degrees, not less than 90 degrees?

You are right. It is including the height of the step that is the issue.

The angle of the slope depends on whether you measure the slope of a single part
or the overall slope of multiple stacked parts.

So folks are measuring different things, explaining the different results. That
makes complete sense.
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In Catalog, eileenkeeney writes:
  In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  You couldn't be more wrong
Remeasure and recalculate.

In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  You are correct. With my digital angle tool for wood trim, it appears to be
between 43 and 43.3 degrees.

The 33 1x3 is about 25.5 degrees.

  It has to be less than 45, not more than 45 because when I put two together (slope
to slope) I get an angle very slightly less than 90 degrees. This was the easiest
test for me to do. The measurement of the actual slope can not include the full
length and height, just the length and height of the part containing the actual
slope.

Are you saying my logic is wrong, or that the digital tool is wrong?

I am only trying to show that the angle is less than 45 degrees.
Can you explain why this test is not accurate for determining if the angle is
less than 45 degrees?
The bottom of the piece runs parallel to the adjacent side of the triangle
The back of the piece runs parallel to the opposite side of the triangle
Therefore, if the angle is greater than 45 degrees, shouldn't the angle of
the combined pieces, as shown in the below image, form an angle of more than
90 degrees, not less than 90 degrees?

You are right. It is including the height of the step that is the issue.

The angle of the slope depends on whether you measure the slope of a single part
or the overall slope of multiple stacked parts.
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:

  Can notes even be added to color-specific listing pages within the Monochrome
Leg category?

No - there is only 1 additional notes field per catalog entry.

Good to know, thanks.
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:

  Can notes even be added to color-specific listing pages within the Monochrome
Leg category?

No - there is only 1 additional notes field per catalog entry.
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In Catalog, Turez writes:
  In Catalog, pcthurman writes:
  I was doing a job lot and came across a Chrome Silver torso for a Stormtrooper.
While researching this minifigure I realized that the under (inside) color was
white. There is also a Chrome Silver C-3P0 minifigure with the under (inside)
color of Light Bluish Gray. The legs for both figures are listed as the same
piece, but the under (inside) color is different. White for the Stormtrooper
and Light Bluish Gray for the C-3P0 so shouldn't they be listed as a separate
piece? I would really be disappointed if I bought a pair of Chrome Silver legs
with white inside color when my C-3P0 figure's inside color is Light bluish
Gray.

Can someone please fix this?

Chromed parts with same chrome color but different base color are not distinguished
in the catalog and we are not planning to change that. Besides that, it seems
both figures came with both base colors, see https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1264297

If you really need a specific base color I'd suggest to ask the seller in
advance to check which color(s) they have.

+1

And I suppose that with the Additional notes space still occupied with
educating folks on the Monochrome Leg rules, this product detailed can’t/shouldn’t
be placed there?

Can notes even be added to color-specific listing pages within the Monochrome
Leg category?

Color me monochrome clueless
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  You couldn't be more wrong
Remeasure and recalculate.

In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  You are correct. With my digital angle tool for wood trim, it appears to be
between 43 and 43.3 degrees.

The 33 1x3 is about 25.5 degrees.

  It has to be less than 45, not more than 45 because when I put two together (slope
to slope) I get an angle very slightly less than 90 degrees. This was the easiest
test for me to do. The measurement of the actual slope can not include the full
length and height, just the length and height of the part containing the actual
slope.

Are you saying my logic is wrong, or that the digital tool is wrong?

I am only trying to show that the angle is less than 45 degrees.
Can you explain why this test is not accurate for determining if the angle is
less than 45 degrees?
The bottom of the piece runs parallel to the adjacent side of the triangle
The back of the piece runs parallel to the opposite side of the triangle
Therefore, if the angle is greater than 45 degrees, shouldn't the angle of
the combined pieces, as shown in the below image, form an angle of more than
90 degrees, not less than 90 degrees?
 
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

I agree to a certain point but if we would get rid of the angles, then we would
need the height for some slopes. Not sure what would be best though.

 
Part No: 3043  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
* 
3043 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 3300  Name: Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
* 
3300 Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope

Yes. Where needed, replace given angle with the missing dimension.

Giving more perspective to the slope
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In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

I agree to a certain point but if we would get rid of the angles, then we would
need the height for some slopes. Not sure what would be best though.

 
Part No: 3043  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
* 
3043 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 3300  Name: Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
* 
3300 Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope

Yes. Where needed, replace given angle with the missing dimension.
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  […]
  In 1987 catalogs, LEGO decided to name 33 degree slopes as 25 degree slopes

 
Set No: 5152  Name: Roof Bricks, Red, 25 degrees
* 
5152-1 (Inv) Roof Bricks, Red, 25 degrees
60 Parts, 1987
Sets: Service Packs


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Looking at the inventory of 5152-1 it contains Slope 33 not 25 as the set implies


 
Set No: 1213  Name: Space Radar Disks
* 
1213-1 (Inv) Space Radar Disks
5 Parts, 1982
Sets: Service Packs: Space
 
Set No: 5198  Name: Small Plates, Disks and Cones
* 
5198-1 (Inv) Small Plates, Disks and Cones
48 Parts, 1989
Sets: Service Packs
and a couple others contain no disks, contrarily to what the set names imply
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In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

I agree to a certain point but if we would get rid of the angles, then we would
need the height for some slopes. Not sure what would be best though.

 
Part No: 3043  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
* 
3043 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 3300  Name: Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
* 
3300 Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope

Convention is that if the height is 1 brick high that is not mentioned.

However 3300 is less high so it would be Slope 2 x 2 x 2/3 Double ?
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In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  

And Here is the origin of the name Bevelled Brick:

 
Set No: 281  Name: 1 x 2 and 3 x 2 Sloping Bricks, Red
* 
281-1 (Inv) 1 x 2 and 3 x 2 Sloping Bricks, Red
21 Parts, 1959
Sets: Classic: Supplemental


In 1987 catalogs, LEGO decided to name 33 degree slopes as 25 degree slopes

 
Set No: 5152  Name: Roof Bricks, Red, 25 degrees
* 
5152-1 (Inv) Roof Bricks, Red, 25 degrees
60 Parts, 1987
Sets: Service Packs


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Looking at the inventory of 5152-1 it contains Slope 33 not 25 as the set implies
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
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In Catalog, pcthurman writes:
  I was doing a job lot and came across a Chrome Silver torso for a Stormtrooper.
While researching this minifigure I realized that the under (inside) color was
white. There is also a Chrome Silver C-3P0 minifigure with the under (inside)
color of Light Bluish Gray. The legs for both figures are listed as the same
piece, but the under (inside) color is different. White for the Stormtrooper
and Light Bluish Gray for the C-3P0 so shouldn't they be listed as a separate
piece? I would really be disappointed if I bought a pair of Chrome Silver legs
with white inside color when my C-3P0 figure's inside color is Light bluish
Gray.

Can someone please fix this?

Chromed parts with same chrome color but different base color are not distinguished
in the catalog and we are not planning to change that. Besides that, it seems
both figures came with both base colors, see https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1264297

If you really need a specific base color I'd suggest to ask the seller in
advance to check which color(s) they have.
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  There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.

IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).


So how about you ignore them, and other people that want to use them to identify
parts that naturally fit together can use them. I find there are many keywords
added to descriptions that I never use and are therefore superfluous (at least
to my way of searching).
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

I agree to a certain point but if we would get rid of the angles, then we would
need the height for some slopes. Not sure what would be best though.

 
Part No: 3043  Name: Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
* 
3043 Slope 45 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 3300  Name: Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
* 
3300 Slope 33 2 x 2 Double
Parts: Slope
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In Catalog, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.


There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.

IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).


The degree in the name gives them A NAME -- something to call them by.

I have been playing with LEGO for over 40 years and have always used the degree
of 45 or 33 to indicate what piece I am talking about (with other people).

The degree of slope is how many people label storage containers, too, such as
a label that reads 33 Degree Slopes, etc.

I have a Lego friend who is even older than me (he is now 64 years old) and has
been playing with Lego his entire life. He actually NEVER calls them Slope --
his word is BEVEL BRICKS -- but he says 45 degree Bevel Brick or 33 degree
Bevel Brick and I know EXACTLY which pieces he is talking about.

And your example doesn't work with these pieces:
Slope 2 x 3 versus Slope 3 x 2. They are NOT the same as one is 33 and the
other is 45.

In fact, more than one seller on BL has shipped me the WRONG piece when I have
ordered Slope 2 x 3 and they sent me Slope 2 x 3.

We definitely need to keep the degree in the names, even if it is not exactly
correct mathematically.

____


And Here is the origin of the name Bevelled Brick:

 
Set No: 281  Name: 1 x 2 and 3 x 2 Sloping Bricks, Red
* 
281-1 (Inv) 1 x 2 and 3 x 2 Sloping Bricks, Red
21 Parts, 1959
Sets: Classic: Supplemental


In 1987 catalogs, LEGO decided to name 33 degree slopes as 25 degree slopes

 
Set No: 5152  Name: Roof Bricks, Red, 25 degrees
* 
5152-1 (Inv) Roof Bricks, Red, 25 degrees
60 Parts, 1987
Sets: Service Packs


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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.


There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.

IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).


The degree in the name gives them A NAME -- something to call them by.

I have been playing with LEGO for over 40 years and have always used the degree
of 45 or 33 to indicate what piece I am talking about (with other people).

The degree of slope is how many people label storage containers, too, such as
a label that reads 33 Degree Slopes, etc.

I have a Lego friend who is even older than me (he is now 64 years old) and has
been playing with Lego his entire life. He actually NEVER calls them Slope --
his word is BEVEL BRICKS -- but he says 45 degree Bevel Brick or 33 degree
Bevel Brick and I know EXACTLY which pieces he is talking about.

And your example doesn't work with these pieces:
Slope 2 x 3 versus Slope 3 x 2. They are NOT the same as one is 33 and the
other is 45.

In fact, more than one seller on BL has shipped me the WRONG piece when I have
ordered Slope 2 x 3 and they sent me Slope 2 x 3.

We definitely need to keep the degree in the names, even if it is not exactly
correct mathematically.

____
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.


There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.

IMO there does not... Slope 2 x 1 or Slope 3 x 1 says it all. No confusion about
the 45 or 33 (which is incorrect anyway).

  
  
In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  I always assumed the 45 in Slope 45 means 45 degrees, and in Slope 33 it means
33 degrees, however if you calculate the exact degrees based on brick measures
it is not.

A standard 1 x 1 brick measures 7.9375 mm x 9.5250 mm (length/width x height
without the stud).

Building with Slope 45 bricks results in a slope of 50 degrees, not 45.
Building with Slope 33 bricks results in a slope of 31 degrees, not 33.

As is well know, assumptions are the mother of all f*ups, so I most likely assumed
wrong

Therefore... just curious, where do the 45 and 33 come from?

 
Part No: 3040  Name: Slope 45 2 x 1
* 
3040 Slope 45 2 x 1
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 4286  Name: Slope 33 3 x 1
* 
4286 Slope 33 3 x 1
Parts: Slope
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.


There needs to be an indicator of the piece "slope" degree, even if not accurate,
but it serves to know which ones share the same angle.

  
In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  I always assumed the 45 in Slope 45 means 45 degrees, and in Slope 33 it means
33 degrees, however if you calculate the exact degrees based on brick measures
it is not.

A standard 1 x 1 brick measures 7.9375 mm x 9.5250 mm (length/width x height
without the stud).

Building with Slope 45 bricks results in a slope of 50 degrees, not 45.
Building with Slope 33 bricks results in a slope of 31 degrees, not 33.

As is well know, assumptions are the mother of all f*ups, so I most likely assumed
wrong

Therefore... just curious, where do the 45 and 33 come from?

 
Part No: 3040  Name: Slope 45 2 x 1
* 
3040 Slope 45 2 x 1
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 4286  Name: Slope 33 3 x 1
* 
4286 Slope 33 3 x 1
Parts: Slope
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In Catalog, pcthurman writes:
  I was doing a job lot and came across a Chrome Silver torso for a Stormtrooper.
While researching this minifigure I realized that the under (inside) color was
white. There is also a Chrome Silver C-3P0 minifigure with the under (inside)
color of Light Bluish Gray. The legs for both figures are listed as the same
piece, but the under (inside) color is different. White for the Stormtrooper
and Light Bluish Gray for the C-3P0 so shouldn't they be listed as a separate
piece? I would really be disappointed if I bought a pair of Chrome Silver legs
with white inside color when my C-3P0 figure's inside color is Light bluish
Gray.

Can someone please fix this?

BUMP
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As I understand it, the only reason to add angle to the dimensions, is to allow
for differentiating between the angles. Ironically, the other dimensions illustrate
the difference well enough vis-à-vis slope. The added number only serves to convolute
the dimensions and their usefulness. It’s superfluous, imho.

-popsicle

  In Catalog, axaday writes:
I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  I always assumed the 45 in Slope 45 means 45 degrees, and in Slope 33 it means
33 degrees, however if you calculate the exact degrees based on brick measures
it is not.

A standard 1 x 1 brick measures 7.9375 mm x 9.5250 mm (length/width x height
without the stud).

Building with Slope 45 bricks results in a slope of 50 degrees, not 45.
Building with Slope 33 bricks results in a slope of 31 degrees, not 33.

As is well know, assumptions are the mother of all f*ups, so I most likely assumed
wrong

Therefore... just curious, where do the 45 and 33 come from?

 
Part No: 3040  Name: Slope 45 2 x 1
* 
3040 Slope 45 2 x 1
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 4286  Name: Slope 33 3 x 1
* 
4286 Slope 33 3 x 1
Parts: Slope
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I really don’t see any need for the 45 or 33, even if they were accurate. No
one is using Lego to help with their math homework or to do technical drawings.
The footprint dimensions and the picture together ought to tell anyone what they
need to know.

In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  I always assumed the 45 in Slope 45 means 45 degrees, and in Slope 33 it means
33 degrees, however if you calculate the exact degrees based on brick measures
it is not.

A standard 1 x 1 brick measures 7.9375 mm x 9.5250 mm (length/width x height
without the stud).

Building with Slope 45 bricks results in a slope of 50 degrees, not 45.
Building with Slope 33 bricks results in a slope of 31 degrees, not 33.

As is well know, assumptions are the mother of all f*ups, so I most likely assumed
wrong

Therefore... just curious, where do the 45 and 33 come from?

 
Part No: 3040  Name: Slope 45 2 x 1
* 
3040 Slope 45 2 x 1
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 4286  Name: Slope 33 3 x 1
* 
4286 Slope 33 3 x 1
Parts: Slope
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You couldn't be more wrong
Remeasure and recalculate.

In Catalog, tEoS writes:
  You are correct. With my digital angle tool for wood trim, it appears to be
between 43 and 43.3 degrees.

The 33 1x3 is about 25.5 degrees.

  It has to be less than 45, not more than 45 because when I put two together (slope
to slope) I get an angle very slightly less than 90 degrees. This was the easiest
test for me to do. The measurement of the actual slope can not include the full
length and height, just the length and height of the part containing the actual
slope.
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You are correct. With my digital angle tool for wood trim, it appears to be
between 43 and 43.3 degrees.

The 33 1x3 is about 25.5 degrees.

  It has to be less than 45, not more than 45 because when I put two together (slope
to slope) I get an angle very slightly less than 90 degrees. This was the easiest
test for me to do. The measurement of the actual slope can not include the full
length and height, just the length and height of the part containing the actual
slope.
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  I always assumed the 45 in Slope 45 means 45 degrees, and in Slope 33 it means
33 degrees, however if you calculate the exact degrees based on brick measures
it is not.

A standard 1 x 1 brick measures 7.9375 mm x 9.5250 mm (length/width x height
without the stud).

Building with Slope 45 bricks results in a slope of 50 degrees, not 45.
Building with Slope 33 bricks results in a slope of 31 degrees, not 33.

As is well know, assumptions are the mother of all f*ups, so I most likely assumed
wrong

Therefore... just curious, where do the 45 and 33 come from?

 
Part No: 3040  Name: Slope 45 2 x 1
* 
3040 Slope 45 2 x 1
Parts: Slope
 
Part No: 4286  Name: Slope 33 3 x 1
* 
4286 Slope 33 3 x 1
Parts: Slope

It has to be less than 45, not more than 45 because when I put two together (slope
to slope) I get an angle very slightly less than 90 degrees. This was the easiest
test for me to do. The measurement of the actual slope can not include the full
length and height, just the length and height of the part containing the actual
slope.

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