| Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | calebfishn  | | Posted: | Jul 28, 2021 15:33 | | Subject: | Re: Lego Resellers vs. The AFOL Community | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Announce | |
| Profit is not harming the planet. Exploitation is.
There are command and control economies in various totalitarian states of the
world in which the profit motive is reduced. Are those economies less harmful
to the environment, or more harmful?
Is it better for a society to convert forests into charcoal to be used for cooking,
and thus pollute the atmosphere with carbon smoke, or for an enterprising person
to invest in developing cleaner forms of energy that benefit people and the environment
in exchange for a profit/return on her investment? People are not going to invest
the time and money needed to bring environment-saving technological improvements
without getting a return on their investment.
Without profit motive we are left with two alternatives: Coercion by the more
powerful to force the less powerful to "work" without profit, or a global return
to a hunter-gatherer society.
Which one of the two do you advocate?
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 28, 2021 15:24 | | Subject: | Re: Lego Resellers vs. The AFOL Community | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Announce | |
| In Announce, firestar246 writes:
| | In Announce, patpendlego writes:
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Yes, and that same profit is killing our planet. Because all profit eventually
is made on natural resoources taken from our planet at low or no cost at all,
harming nature, killing woods, animals, plants, etc.
Buiness may survice on profit, our planet is not.
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Don't want to get into this hornets nest, but just want to point out that
every item you mentioned is a renewable resource and are being renewed. It doesn't
help out a lumber company if they destroy all the trees,
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But that is exactly what is happening! The rainforests are largly gone and NOT
renewable anymore, only and only for short term profit.
as that would then end
| | their business pretty quickly. So the good companies will make sure they don't
just destroy, but rather harvest and replenish.
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Every company must first make profit before they can renew what they used, and
no company has ever renewed ALL or even MORE than they destroyed. There is no
perpetual mobile.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jul 28, 2021 15:17 | | Subject: | Re: Lego Resellers vs. The AFOL Community | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Announce | |
| In Announce, patpendlego writes:
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Yes, and that same profit is killing our planet. Because all profit eventually
is made on natural resoources taken from our planet at low or no cost at all,
harming nature, killing woods, animals, plants, etc.
Buiness may survice on profit, our planet is not.
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Don't want to get into this hornets nest, but just want to point out that
every item you mentioned is a renewable resource and are being renewed. It doesn't
help out a lumber company if they destroy all the trees, as that would then end
their business pretty quickly. So the good companies will make sure they don't
just destroy, but rather harvest and replenish.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Jul 28, 2021 15:06 | | Subject: | Re: Lego Resellers vs. The AFOL Community | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Announce | |
| In Announce, firestar246 writes:
| | In Announce, psusaxman2000 writes:
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What I've found recently is that there is a lot of animosity when
people tend to not get or find what they want. To me it sometimes feels like
a sense of entitlement and not realizing that you can't always get what you
want.
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That's the big issue right there, at least in my opinion.
People don't seem to understand the importance of profit anymore. They think
that if someone buys something to resell it at a higher value, that they are
cheaters, scammers, scalpers. They don't seem to understand that profit is
needed for a business to survive.
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Yes, and that same profit is killing our planet. Because all profit eventually
is made on natural resoources taken from our planet at low or no cost at all,
harming nature, killing woods, animals, plants, etc.
Buiness may survice on profit, our planet is not.
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| Author: | tons_of_bricks | | Posted: | Jul 28, 2021 15:03 | | Subject: | Re: Lego Resellers vs. The AFOL Community | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Announce | |
| In Announce, calebfishn writes:
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Profit is not only needed for the survival of an individual business, it is essential
for making any type of consumer good dependably available and affordable. Just
think about Soviet Russia in the 1970's where people lined up for hours hoping
to find a loaf of bread and a bottle of vodka on the grocery store shelves. Without
incentive, people are not going to work at making consumer goods available and
affordable. Without the ability to profit from their work, Bricklink sellers
would not be spending hours sourcing, sorting, and listing parts for the AFOL
community to purchase. The variety of parts and sets available on Bricklink would
be much less and pricing would be variable and unpredictable.
For those who think that profit is immoral when it comes from selling toys, let's
all be thankful that Lego doesn't think that way, or we'd have no lego
at all.
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This is what I like about (most) of the sellers here: they actually have a head
on their shoulders and a brain in it.  You hit the nail on the head.
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