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In General, patpendlego writes:

In General, Bond writes:

In General, patpendlego writes:

New can come from TLG or an official by TLG licensed reseller only.
Any other source is Used. Regardless of stacked or not.

Of course BL's definition is a bit less strict.

A fair argument. That being stated, BL *is* TLG, now that the latter owns and
defines policy for the former. Not to put too fine a point on it, of course.

- Pat (not pending)

Lol. However, BL is not the seller here. Not yet at least

Ah, I see now. I had misconstrued your use of the word 'source'.

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 10:52

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, Bond writes:

In General, patpendlego writes:

New can come from TLG or an official by TLG licensed reseller only.
Any other source is Used. Regardless of stacked or not.

Of course BL's definition is a bit less strict.

A fair argument. That being stated, BL *is* TLG, now that the latter owns and
defines policy for the former. Not to put too fine a point on it, of course.

- Pat (not pending)

Lol. However, BL is not the seller here. Not yet at least

Author:

Hurt

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 09:49

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, peregrinator writes:

In General, gwurst writes:

In your situation I might ask for a partial refund and then list them as used
but like-new and only stacked once.

BL policy discourages listing items as "like new":
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

"Please do not use phrases such as "Like New" or "As New" in the description
of any item, regardless of whether it is being listed as NEW or USED."

I wonder why? It's clear for NEW items to not do this, but for USED ones?

Author:

Bond

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 09:42

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, patpendlego writes:

New can come from TLG or an official by TLG licensed reseller only.
Any other source is Used. Regardless of stacked or not.

Of course BL's definition is a bit less strict.

A fair argument. That being stated, BL *is* TLG, now that the latter owns and
defines policy for the former. Not to put too fine a point on it, of course.

- Pat (not pending)

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 09:38

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, gwurst writes:

In your situation I might ask for a partial refund and then list them as used
but like-new and only stacked once.

Author:

leggodtshop

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 09:37

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, bricknationtoys writes:

Just received an order of new parts that were supposed to go into my inventory.
The seller probably tried to be helpful and stacked almost all the parts.
I don't feel I can sell them now as new.

What are your thoughts?

New can come from TLG or an official by TLG licensed reseller only.
Any other source is Used. Regardless of stacked or not.

Of course BL's definition is a bit less strict.

Author:

Bond

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 09:31

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, bricknationtoys writes:

The seller probably tried to be helpful and stacked almost all the parts.

Or even more frightful, the seller stores their inventory this way while continuing
to list it as new. I only mention this because the sheer number of parts indicated
by the two pics, as well as the fact that a lot of them are small, at least suggests
this. I cannot see any seller with a customer-first mentality taking the extra
time to stack this many parts at the expense of delaying shipment.

For my part, I agree with other commenters on this thread that the parts in questions
have now - however inadvertently - been rendered used. Before I continue, however,
it might be well to highlight BrickLink's current policy regarding New vs
Used parts (https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102):

-----------------------------
* New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased
"as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been
handled only for sorting. These parts have never been used in any manner. If
a minifigure or part assembly was originally sold assembled by LEGO, its component
parts after disassembly can also be listed as new.

* Used Parts - Parts which have been previously used and are presumably still
in good, usable condition. If the parts show excessive wear, discoloration, excessive
scratches, other marks,etc. this should be noted in the *Comments* field. Sticker
sheets missing stickers must be listed as Used.
-----------------------------
(Note: I had a devil of a time finding this. A proper quest.)

The one anomaly here that may serve in the seller's favor are the words "have
been handled only for sorting." Can 'handled' entail the act of stacking
for the sole purpose of consolidating shipping space? I realize of course that
the very next sentence reads "These parts have never been used in any manner."
But does 'used' here mean 'connected to another part'? I see
no mention of it, but I welcome correction if I'm mistaken. In the absence
of such clarification, however, it could be construed as circular logic.

Potential Action Items:

For Original Seller (for that matter, any BL seller) - Strongly suggest ceasing
connecting any parts together, new or used, prior to shipping unless buyer requests
such clearly and in writing. Observe what happens otherwise.

For BrickLink (TLG, et al) - Suggest clarification of New parts vs Used parts
to include or exclude stacking for sole purpose of shipping. (Although again,
for my part, I agree that once parts are connected, they are rendered used.)

- Pat (BL ID: Bond)

Author:

gwurst

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 09:16

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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Technically correct answer - the stacked parts are now used.

My personal opinion - as a buyer (not a reseller) I wouldn't care if I ordered
new parts and got them stacked. I'm buying new for their condition and being
undamaged (other than typical damage from banging-around in a bag). I would
assume most people plan to actually use their pieces, and not plan to display
them in a pile to maintain their "newness".

Again, as a seller as well I understand the rules and do not stack any new parts
I sell. I made the same mistake of stacking new parts when I started selling
until I found-out it was not appreciated.

In your situation I might ask for a partial refund and then list them as used
but like-new and only stacked once.

Author:

tons_of_bricks

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 09:03

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, bricknationtoys writes:

Is it a newer seller? Maybe it just didn't cross his mind that this shouldn't
be done for new pieces. I know when I started out I wasn't aware at how particular
I should be about new pieces. However, if he isn't a new seller, then he
should definitely know better.

I'd ask for a partial refund for the stacked pieces; maybe 50% of their value
or something along those lines.

Author:

GraysBricks

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 08:09

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, bricknationtoys writes:

I agree, anything assembled is used. It shows you are one the good sellers by
asking this question, we have bought from each other a few times and I'll
continue to do so.

Author:

peregrinator

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 07:39

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, bricknationtoys writes:

The ones that have been stacked are used.

Author:

Hurt

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 07:27

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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In General, bricknationtoys writes:

I know that feeling :-/

Bricklink says:
"New Parts - Parts are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased
"as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been
handled only for sorting. These parts have never been used in any manner. If
a minifigure or part assembly was originally sold assembled by LEGO, its component
parts after disassembly can also be listed as new."

The part "If a minifigure or part assembly was originally sold assembled by LEGO,
its component parts after disassembly can also be listed as new." - so I guess
it's not a problem if you have other cases where they have been stacked.

Of course you can also confront the seller with it, asking for a partial refund
or so (maybe the difference of what the prices are between new and used - if
you're listing them as used in your shop now).

Author:

Stuart9

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 07:27

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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Should have specified that the exception is where it was preassembled by Lego
before packaging for sale.

In General, Stuart9 writes:

Completely unacceptable to me as these effectively are now used, they have been
assembled.

I believe that BL’s definition of new includes the specification of unassembled.

In General, bricknationtoys writes:

Author:

Stuart9

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 07:25

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Re: New or used? How do you see it?

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Author:

bricknationtoys

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 07:16

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New or used? How do you see it?

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Author:

brac.brick

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 06:25

Subject:

Re: BRAVO on the BrickLink Catalog Newsletter!!!

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In General, Turez writes:

In General, Erkiles writes:

So, could anyone point out where one would be able to join this newsletter?

https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp

I have my settings to accept marketing and newsletters. Never seen the newsletter
yet. Did it just go out to a select few? Just wondering...

Author:

BunteSteinewelt

Posted:

Jun 16, 2021 02:18

Subject:

Re: New OSS : EU VAT changes from 1st of July

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In General, Stellar writes:

In General, kaat writes:

In General, Stellar writes:

But which for North Ireland? UK 20% or Seller %?

United Kingdom 20

And what about Monaco?

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/eu-vat-rules-topic/territorial-status-eu-countries-certain-territories_en

There are special rules for Northern Ireland, from within the EU it should be
20% (based on UK VAT rate I guess) and then the code XI is used as if it were
an EU country. See https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat-news/brexit-northern-ireland-vat-and-eoro--xi--number.html

As for Monaco, I think that is part of the French VAT system so its 20% is used.

Thanks!

Hi,

as the 1st of July is comming closer, I want to ask if there are any news about
this?

Will Bricklink provide any tools to support EU-VAT-Sellers on that matter?

Thank you very much!

Author:

Turez

Posted:

Jun 15, 2021 05:05

Subject:

Re: BRAVO on the BrickLink Catalog Newsletter!!!

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In General, Erkiles writes:

So, could anyone point out where one would be able to join this newsletter?

https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp

Author:

hpoort

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 13:11

Subject:

Re: does BL have an active carts function ?

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In General, legomaster100 writes:

does BL have an active carts function ?

For buyers: yes: top right of the screen.

For sellers: no. You can't see which future buyers you might get when they
bring their carts to a buy.

Author:

legomaster100

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 12:59

Subject:

does BL have an active carts function ?

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does BL have an active carts function ?

Author:

Reki_Lobsheek

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 09:34

Subject:

Re: BRAVO on the BrickLink Catalog Newsletter!!!

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Hi Russell,

Sorry to "rain on this parade" but how is it something like this stays so well
hidden under the radar?
I've just spent 5 minutes searching all over this platform and cannot for
the life of me find any mention outside of these forum posts of a "catalog news
letter", nor did I receive any communication about the possibility to receive
this news letter.

I would have expected something like this to appear here:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?nID=&ID=78&v=c&max=20&mTP=Y
Too logical?

Seems one has to enroll into an e-mail listing to receive it. Wouldn't it
make more sense to just send the newsletter out to every member of this website?
That would even make sense from an HR POV as it might entice lesser / non active
members to return to the platform to do their buying.

This remains up to date my largest pet peeve with this platform and is something
which I've aired in the market place forum as well: this is NOT an intuitive
website. One has to search all over the place for both the simplest of things
as the more technical issues.

One should not need a Forum to find out where things are; IMO it should be possible
for a 5 year old to find the basic functionalities.

OK, rant over and apologies to be negative about something that is clearly a
very positive development.

So, could anyone point out where one would be able to join this newsletter?

Erikk

In General, Admin_Russell writes:

Are you on the marketing email list?

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 04:05

Subject:

Re: how to effieciently catalog a lot of used

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In General, hpoort writes:

[…]
For batches of 20-5000 parts with wide variety, low lot counts and few stickers,
I find Studio working the fastest. […]

Studio, part of the much awaited Seller Tools

Author:

hpoort

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 01:36

Subject:

Re: how to effieciently catalog a lot of used

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In General, legomaster100 writes:

Hello,
I have adding quite a few parts over the last few days, and it seems to take
too long.
Any tips on sorting these parts and cataloging them?
I currently am just adding them into brickstore and mass upload-ing.
Thanks,
The Brick llama

For batches of 20-5000 parts with wide variety, low lot counts and few stickers,
I find Studio working the fastest.
Pre-sort your parts by major category, then by shape and end by color. Just place
the bricks in piles on the grid. Collision detection off. Piles of 5 or 10 can
easily be copied for larger quantities. Don't bother with the few parts you
can't find in Studio; you can always add them manually.

Finally, just export the Model Info / Bill of Materials into a wanted list.

Author:

Shiny_Stuff

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 01:27

Subject:

Re: BRAVO on the BrickLink Catalog Newsletter!!!

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In General, Admin_Russell writes:

In General, Shiny_Stuff writes:

In General, TechnicBuilt writes:

In General, Admin_Russell writes:

Thank you for the nice comments. I have included the newsletter here for anyone
who missed it.

I didn't get this sent to me. I have my settings set to receive emails from
Bricklink.

Is there somewhere this can be accessed so we can clock the links in it?

I just checked my emails from May 28 and I did NOT receive the Catalog Newsletter.

Are you on the marketing email list?

I am now -- newsletter now enabled.

.

Author:

Admin_Russell

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 01:15

Subject:

Re: BRAVO on the BrickLink Catalog Newsletter!!!

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In General, Shiny_Stuff writes:

In General, TechnicBuilt writes:

In General, Admin_Russell writes:

Thank you for the nice comments. I have included the newsletter here for anyone
who missed it.

I didn't get this sent to me. I have my settings set to receive emails from
Bricklink.

Is there somewhere this can be accessed so we can clock the links in it?

I just checked my emails from May 28 and I did NOT receive the Catalog Newsletter.

Are you on the marketing email list?

Author:

Shiny_Stuff

Posted:

Jun 14, 2021 01:02

Subject:

Re: BRAVO on the BrickLink Catalog Newsletter!!!

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In General, TechnicBuilt writes:

In General, Admin_Russell writes:

Thank you for the nice comments. I have included the newsletter here for anyone
who missed it.

I didn't get this sent to me. I have my settings set to receive emails from
Bricklink.

Is there somewhere this can be accessed so we can clock the links in it?

I just checked my emails from May 28 and I did NOT receive the Catalog Newsletter.

Author:

legomaster100

Posted:

Jun 13, 2021 20:59

Subject:

Re: how to effieciently catalog a lot of used

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In General, axaday writes:

In General, legomaster100 writes:

If they are plain bricks try parting out a classic set that has a whole lot of
them. If they are special pieces, see if you can figure out a set that has a
bunch of them.

I've never done this because I don't do that, but it seems like it could
help.

thanks that is a good idea

Author:

axaday

Posted:

Jun 13, 2021 18:56

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Re: how to effieciently catalog a lot of used

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In General, legomaster100 writes:

Author:

legomaster100

Posted:

Jun 13, 2021 18:16

Subject:

how to effieciently catalog a lot of used

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Author:

ferfast

Posted:

Jun 13, 2021 08:19

Subject:

STOCK UPDATE SALE - 15% OFF ALL ITEMS

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STOCK UPDATE SALE - 15% OFF ALL ITEMS

Author:

calsbricks

Posted:

Jun 13, 2021 03:18

Subject:

Re: A sad day to say the least

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In General, wildchicken13 writes:

In General, calsbricks writes:

[…] and total for the moths wewre between 2000 and 3000. […]

That's a lot of moths!

I wouldn't necessarily assume this to be indicative of long-term trends,
though. Summer is always slow, and with many countries relaxing COVID-19 restrictions,
I expect this summer to be even slower.

certainly is

Author:

wildchicken13

Posted:

Jun 13, 2021 03:00

Subject:

Re: A sad day to say the least

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In General, calsbricks writes:

[…] and total for the moths wewre between 2000 and 3000. […]

Author:

misbi

Posted:

Jun 12, 2021 10:22

Subject:

IOSS, VOEC, ABN, Etc

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With just over a couple of weeks to go until 1st July, it would be useful to
know Bricklink's IOSS VOEC, ABN numbers etc in advance, so sellers can set
up electronic customs/CN22 values in advance, rather than leaving it to the last
minute.

Author:

TAMU93

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 13:23

Subject:

Re: I will buy your Bulk Lego / Lego minifigures

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In General, rab1234 writes:

I've got lots of bulk lego to sell, but how would anyone ship 10 pounds for
$10? Seems like the cheapest I could find would be over $20.

In General, legomaster100 writes:

Hello,
I will purchase your Bulk Lego for $6 a pound and I will pay $60 max for 10 pounds.
I will pay $10 for shipping. For a total of 70$ for 10 pounds. I can also pay
$1 for each minifigure.
Please let me know if interested.
We can do a private sale on BL.
Thanks,
The Brick Llama

Priority mail cubic.

Over 8-10 use www.parcelmonkey.com they have UPS deals at sometimes u der $20
for 35 pounds.

Andreas

Andreas

Author:

rab1234

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 12:02

Subject:

Re: I will buy your Bulk Lego / Lego minifigures

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And if you just want random mismatched figs, I've got 3 lots of 20 in my
store for $10 each (+ shipping costs).

In General, legomaster100 writes:

Author:

rab1234

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 12:01

Subject:

Re: I will buy your Bulk Lego / Lego minifigures

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I've got lots of bulk lego to sell, but how would anyone ship 10 pounds for
$10? Seems like the cheapest I could find would be over $20.

In General, legomaster100 writes:

Author:

popsicle

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 11:01

Subject:

Re: I will buy your Bulk Lego / Lego minifigures

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https://store.bricklink.com/pitz8008&itemID=225211207

In General, legomaster100 writes:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1275521

$1.43 per fig, but considering the dollar amount you're looking to spend
it's not bad

Author:

legomaster100

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 10:28

Subject:

I will buy your Bulk Lego / Lego minifigures

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Author:

MrPetovan

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 09:22

Subject:

Re: TrixBrix r24 circle size in studs?

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The track indicates a radius of 24 studs (it’s in the name) so the outer perimeter
of the circle is 2 x pi x r, which gives 150.80 studs. Inner perimeter
use 8 studs less for the radius, so the inner perimeter length is 100.50 studs.

In General, UnitedBrickton writes:

Hi

Does anyone know the TrixBrix r24 circle size in studs?

I understand it’s 3rd party bricks but can’t find any Lego alternative to try
and fit a turn on a smaller footprint., if there is a Lego alternative then please
let me know.

Thanks

Michael

Author:

Ilikepandas

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 09:18

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Re: Electric lights?

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well oof
i guess i wont use them now

i was going to try to make like lighting for my house i made
is there any other things i could do to have light??

Author:

husker92

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 09:07

Subject:

Re: Brickstock issue, brickstore issues, ugh

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Thanks Robert. I will give those a try.

Author:

UnitedBrickton

Posted:

Jun 10, 2021 07:56

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TrixBrix r24 circle size in studs?

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Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 18:47

Subject:

Re: Electric lights?

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In General, Ilikepandas writes:

ohhhhhhhh
huh
well
hmm
makes sense
ill have to keep looking into it
i was going to buy some
but i really only want to use one store and i cant find one that has all the
pieces i need
also i dont want to spend alot on it
so idk what imma do
but if anyone has alot of these pieces i might be interested

Yeah, well, I thought you already had some of the parts but if you haven’t any,
and if you don’t want to build or complete an old set, I wouldn’t buy them just
to use on a MOC. Not only this system has been discontinued, it didn’t last
very long.

Author:

Ilikepandas

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 18:04

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Re: Electric lights?

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Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 17:10

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Re: Electric lights?

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In General, SylvainLS writes:

[…]
So, a 2x8 plate with contacts, two 1x2 light brick on top, on the long side (2
studs occupied by a light brick, 4 empty studs, 2 studs for the other light brick
= 8 studs long), then the 1x8 prisms brick on top of the lights.

http://peeron.com/scans/735-1/19/

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 17:05

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Re: Electric lights?

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In General, Ilikepandas writes:

huh
okay
i think i got it

so say i was going to get "Electric Light Brick 1 x 8 with 3 Front Light Prisms"
would i just connect "Electric Plate 2 x 4 with Contacts" to the things on the
bottom?

Nope, it’s a brick with prisms, there’s no light. But there’s two holes on the
bottom in which you can put the light of a light brick (and the prisms then redirect
the light to the front).

So you need two 1x2 light bricks (with light on top) between the plate and the
1x8 prisms brick.

So, a 2x8 plate with contacts, two 1x2 light brick on top, on the long side (2
studs occupied by a light brick, 4 empty studs, 2 studs for the other light brick
= 8 studs long), then the 1x8 prisms brick on top of the lights.

Author:

Ilikepandas

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 16:40

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Re: Electric lights?

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hmm
thanks

i mostly understand it now
i think

Author:

Ilikepandas

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 16:36

Subject:

Re: Electric lights?

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huh
okay
i think i got it

so say i was going to get "Electric Light Brick 1 x 8 with 3 Front Light Prisms"
would i just connect "Electric Plate 2 x 4 with Contacts" to the things on the
bottom?

Author:

sandman

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 16:30

Subject:

Re: Brickstock issue, brickstore issues, ugh

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In General, husker92 writes:

Read that it is no longer being supported, so figured it was time to upgrade.
Downloaded brickstore, but when I try to open it, I just get a blank white screen.
Anyone else have that issue (Win10 X86)?

I haven't received any bug-reports for such a problem.
There are however three things to check:

1) In the case the BrickStore installer told you to restart your system, you
really should do it. This is not my idea of aggravating users, but Microsoft
decided to distribute mini-Windows updates with their C/C++ runtime packages
that I have to install alongside BrickStore.

2) Disable your anti-virus (all of them) and see if BrickStore starts now

3) Update the drivers of your graphics card (especially if you don't have
a dedicated one and you are using the integrated Intel graphics)

See also here for currently known problems and workarounds (also has a link to
the Intel drivers):
https://github.com/rgriebl/brickstore/wiki/Announcements

--
Robert

PS: Use the x64 version if possible - the 32bit x86 one is constantly running
out of memory with the high-resolution item images in use nowadays.

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

Jun 9, 2021 16:29

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Re: Electric lights?

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