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 Author: Ilikepandas View Messages Posted By Ilikepandas
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 16:17
 Subject: Big skeleton from Ninjago
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So i have this skeleton from ninjago and idk if he's build correctly
so i went and looked and couldn't find him

i guess he is the general
idk
pls help

thanks
 Author: starbeanie View Messages Posted By starbeanie
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 12:07
 Subject: Re: Tribal Woman COL 232
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Minifigures are categorized by the set they appear in.

it's why
 
Minifig No: col016  Name: Cowboy, Series 1 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
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col016 (Inv) Cowboy, Series 1 (Minifigure Only without Stand and Accessories)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 1 Minifigures
isn't under cowboy

In General, Pam_Shaver writes:
  I was looking up my Indians today and had trouble finding one of them. Apparently
she is a collectible minifigure. Why is she not shown with the Indians as a
minifigure? I had to find her by looking for her torso.
 Author: Pam_Shaver View Messages Posted By Pam_Shaver
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 11:49
 Subject: Tribal Woman COL 232
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I was looking up my Indians today and had trouble finding one of them. Apparently
she is a collectible minifigure. Why is she not shown with the Indians as a
minifigure? I had to find her by looking for her torso.
 Author: Phantom_Buyer View Messages Posted By Phantom_Buyer
 Posted: Jun 7, 2021 00:37
 Subject: Re: Can some one tell me how I can get more sales
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

If I were callous, I’d say:  “Get more stuff to sell.  Next!”

But I’m not, so:
You may search the forums, this question comes quite often, in different forms,
but the gist is there: have the items people want, and enough of them, in both
quantity and types, especially if they are common items.

I somewhat disagree. My store has never exceeded the 4,500 parts and I've
received 49 orders within 4-5 months. I sold 2-3 sets and a very small number
of figs as well. Most of my parts were relatively common even though I did place
some pretty rare parts a few times.

Right now Bricklink is as slow as it will ever be. I haven't gotten an order
in almost 2 months even though I keep stocking. I'll probably post about
this later on but just keep stocking. When August-September comes around, sales
should pick up, hopefully. Take care, - SB
 Author: peregrinator View Messages Posted By peregrinator
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 21:25
 Subject: Re: Can some one tell me how I can get more sales
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In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

For one, with a small store such as yours you should probably price your items
cheaper. Use the "quantity average" over six months, for example, instead of
"average" (the former is weighted and the latter isn't).
 Author: Catloverkid View Messages Posted By Catloverkid
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 20:04
 Subject: Re: Okay thank you
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In General, Autour writes:
  In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

My advise : adjust some of your store terms:
- REMOVE "I am not resposible for orders damaged in shipping" ... You should
at least feel responsible if not do everything you can when something goes wrong.
Whether or not it's a legal obligation in your country/area.
- REQUIRE Instant payments. So REMOVE "Payment due within 3 days."
As a consequence, you can REMOVE "Please be aware I file nonpayment complaints
for buyers who do not pay."
- Have more stock and make as much noise as you can.

Best regards
Kris - Autour des Briques - France
 Author: Autour View Messages Posted By Autour
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 19:27
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In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

My advise : adjust some of your store terms:
- REMOVE "I am not resposible for orders damaged in shipping" ... You should
at least feel responsible if not do everything you can when something goes wrong.
Whether or not it's a legal obligation in your country/area.
- REQUIRE Instant payments. So REMOVE "Payment due within 3 days."
As a consequence, you can REMOVE "Please be aware I file nonpayment complaints
for buyers who do not pay."
- Have more stock and make as much noise as you can.

Best regards
Kris - Autour des Briques - France
 Author: Catloverkid View Messages Posted By Catloverkid
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 19:18
 Subject: Re: Thank you
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In General, Brickitty writes:
  In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

From one plastic cat to another: get more stock. There are official individual
Lego sets with more parts than your entire store. Minifigs sell best, and you
only have 2 figs. You need to make a much larger initial investment and be prepared
to stay in the red for awhile as you build up your stock. As a buyer with hundreds
and hundreds of orders, I've virtually never bought from a store with fewer
than 25,000 parts, because I can always find all those same parts plus more at
a bigger store.
 Author: Catloverkid View Messages Posted By Catloverkid
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 19:16
 Subject: Re: Okay thank you
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

If I were callous, I’d say:  “Get more stuff to sell.  Next!”

But I’m not, so:
You may search the forums, this question comes quite often, in different forms,
but the gist is there: have the items people want, and enough of them, in both
quantity and types, especially if they are common items.
 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 19:02
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In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

From one plastic cat to another: get more stock. There are official individual
Lego sets with more parts than your entire store. Minifigs sell best, and you
only have 2 figs. You need to make a much larger initial investment and be prepared
to stay in the red for awhile as you build up your stock. As a buyer with hundreds
and hundreds of orders, I've virtually never bought from a store with fewer
than 25,000 parts, because I can always find all those same parts plus more at
a bigger store.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 18:28
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In General, Catloverkid writes:
  I need help getting more sales on my store

If I were callous, I’d say:  “Get more stuff to sell.  Next!”

But I’m not, so:
You may search the forums, this question comes quite often, in different forms,
but the gist is there: have the items people want, and enough of them, in both
quantity and types, especially if they are common items.
 Author: Catloverkid View Messages Posted By Catloverkid
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 18:17
 Subject: Can some one tell me how I can get more sales
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I need help getting more sales on my store
 Author: sammandy View Messages Posted By sammandy
 Posted: Jun 6, 2021 08:03
 Subject: 75021 instructions
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Hi, Has anyone ever come across this single book version set of instructions
for 75021 republic gunship?
I can only find the two book entry on bricklink/rebrickable and found no other
references on the web. I also have the two book version and am aware of the US/European
versions which this is neither,
Just wondering if this is a rare/early version
Book no.s 6086637 128282-D0001
Any info greatly appreciated thanks
 Author: Pippysblocks View Messages Posted By Pippysblocks
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 11:01
 Subject: Re: Any call for magnet only ?
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You could list them as a custom item or a good description of what it is under
its proper listing. There's a call for everything Lego - sometimes it takes
a long time but everything will go eventually.

In General, tpr writes:
  Hi

I have 3 magnets from
 
Part No: 73092  Name: Magnet Cylindrical
* 
73092 Magnet Cylindrical
Parts: Magnet

but it is the magnet only

Is there any call for them, and if so, how would you list them

tpr
 Author: tpr View Messages Posted By tpr
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 10:16
 Subject: Any call for magnet only ?
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Hi

I have 3 magnets from
 
Part No: 73092  Name: Magnet Cylindrical
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73092 Magnet Cylindrical
Parts: Magnet

but it is the magnet only

Is there any call for them, and if so, how would you list them

tpr
 Author: gremlinsky View Messages Posted By gremlinsky
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 09:43
 Subject: Re: Death Star
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In General, firestar246 writes:
  Yeah, that kind of info isn't really available anywhere. As macebobo suggested,
an unboxing video might be the way to try to figure out what goes where.

ok - thanks for your help all
 Author: tons_of_bricks View Messages Posted By tons_of_bricks
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 08:21
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Yeah, that kind of info isn't really available anywhere. As macebobo suggested,
an unboxing video might be the way to try to figure out what goes where.
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 03:57
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In General, gremlinsky writes:
  Hi all.
I 've now (after buying a few missing parts) got complete 10188 set, boxed
with instructions and all it's internal boxes.
I'm a bit miffed I can't find any resources allowing me to recreate the
original boxes - as in which pieces go in Boxes 1 - 4 (an the internal bags etc.)
Does anyone know of anywhere were this information might be held ?

Maybe an unboxing video on youtube? I have a sealed one for sale and didn't
even know that there are multiple boxes inside.
 Author: gremlinsky View Messages Posted By gremlinsky
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 03:13
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Hi all.
I 've now (after buying a few missing parts) got complete 10188 set, boxed
with instructions and all it's internal boxes.
I'm a bit miffed I can't find any resources allowing me to recreate the
original boxes - as in which pieces go in Boxes 1 - 4 (an the internal bags etc.)
Does anyone know of anywhere were this information might be held ?
 Author: Pine06 View Messages Posted By Pine06
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 00:09
 Subject: Re: Different box than what Bricklink has posted
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In General, Cob writes:
  In General, Pine06 writes:
  Hi everyone,

I'm going through my old lego boxes that I kept from when I was a kid. Set
6044 kings carriage. My box that I have is different than what Bricklink shows.
Box that I have has piece count(120) printed and royal knights shield with lion
head printed next to the set number right upper corner. Any insight or comments
much appreciated. Thank you

Could you provide some pictures?

Pic posted
 Author: Pine06 View Messages Posted By Pine06
 Posted: Jun 4, 2021 00:08
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In General, Pine06 writes:
  In General, Cob writes:
  In General, Pine06 writes:
  Hi everyone,

I'm going through my old lego boxes that I kept from when I was a kid. Set
6044 kings carriage. My box that I have is different than what Bricklink shows.
Box that I have has piece count(120) printed and royal knights shield with lion
head printed next to the set number right upper corner. Any insight or comments
much appreciated. Thank you

Could you provide some pictures?

I'm trying too. But it keeps telling me file to file. Resize
 
 Author: spacecaptain View Messages Posted By spacecaptain
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 23:59
 Subject: Re: Cleaning cloth sails
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In General, spacecaptain writes:
  Hello. Is it advised to clean old sails? If so, what is anybody's experience
or recommendations?

Thanks

Justin

Also, if there is string ran through the sails do you leave it tied off to whatever
pieces they are tied to when you wash the sails? Or untie the string first?
 Author: Pine06 View Messages Posted By Pine06
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 23:58
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In General, Cob writes:
  In General, Pine06 writes:
  Hi everyone,

I'm going through my old lego boxes that I kept from when I was a kid. Set
6044 kings carriage. My box that I have is different than what Bricklink shows.
Box that I have has piece count(120) printed and royal knights shield with lion
head printed next to the set number right upper corner. Any insight or comments
much appreciated. Thank you

Could you provide some pictures?

I'm trying too. But it keeps telling me file to file. Resize
 Author: spacecaptain View Messages Posted By spacecaptain
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 23:57
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Hello. Is it advised to clean old sails? If so, what is anybody's experience
or recommendations?

Thanks

Justin
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 23:56
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In General, Pine06 writes:
  Hi everyone,

I'm going through my old lego boxes that I kept from when I was a kid. Set
6044 kings carriage. My box that I have is different than what Bricklink shows.
Box that I have has piece count(120) printed and royal knights shield with lion
head printed next to the set number right upper corner. Any insight or comments
much appreciated. Thank you

See all variations of box
 
Set No: 6373  Name: Motorcycle Shop
* 
6373-1 (Inv) Motorcycle Shop
163 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 1984
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Traffic
(from 1984)
https://imgur.com/gallery/GDecthb

and those of
 
Set No: 7722  Name: Steam Cargo Train, battery
* 
7722-1 (Inv) Steam Cargo Train, battery
466 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1 Book, 1985
Sets: Train: 4.5V
(from 1985)

https://imgur.com/gallery/9TcHo4k

and those of
 
Set No: 6392  Name: Airport
* 
6392-1 (Inv) Airport
450 Parts, 8 Minifigures, 1985
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Airport
(from 1985)
https://imgur.com/gallery/tTmQ6SS
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 23:50
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In General, Pine06 writes:
  Hi everyone,

I'm going through my old lego boxes that I kept from when I was a kid. Set
6044 kings carriage. My box that I have is different than what Bricklink shows.
Box that I have has piece count(120) printed and royal knights shield with lion
head printed next to the set number right upper corner. Any insight or comments
much appreciated. Thank you

Could you provide some pictures?
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 23:49
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There are probably different regional versions of the box. The box picture is
from a member in Europe.

In General, Pine06 writes:
  Hi everyone,

I'm going through my old lego boxes that I kept from when I was a kid. Set
6044 kings carriage. My box that I have is different than what Bricklink shows.
Box that I have has piece count(120) printed and royal knights shield with lion
head printed next to the set number right upper corner. Any insight or comments
much appreciated. Thank you
 Author: Pine06 View Messages Posted By Pine06
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 23:46
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Hi everyone,

I'm going through my old lego boxes that I kept from when I was a kid. Set
6044 kings carriage. My box that I have is different than what Bricklink shows.
Box that I have has piece count(120) printed and royal knights shield with lion
head printed next to the set number right upper corner. Any insight or comments
much appreciated. Thank you
 Author: macebobo View Messages Posted By macebobo
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 12:26
 Subject: Re: How to see what's MISSING from a set in Inv
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I will have to try this. It is too early and my coffee has not kicked in yet,
so I am not able to visualize what you're talking about.

Emptying a stockroom is easy. View inventory by availability, select the stockroom
by clicking the selection box, select delete items under update my inventory,
then click submit changes.

In General, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Thanks for replying. It's indeed not a very practical solution.
However I found another trick: part out the set to an empty stockroom, let's
say C. Then under Inventory Detail search for all parts from the same set and
sort by quantity ascending. Where it says zero then you don't have the part
available in your store.

Now I have to find out to empty the stockroom C...

In General, macebobo writes:
  Part the set out and then check for all those items that do not say "You
already have the same part in your inventory! (View Inventory Detail)"

Not optimum, but this will do what you asked.


In General, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Hi smart heads,
When I check the value of a set for part out I'm always intrigued by the
My Inventory Average, especially the part that tells the number of parts & lots
that I don't have in my store inventory (first screen).

What I tried myself is the "parts from set" function in the extended inventory
search (second screen). When I click Go, I get a list of all parts from my inventory
that also are in the set I'm searching for, but it's not what I want!

Is there a way to find out what those missing 164 items in 53 lots (in my example)
are? Bricklink seems to know, but how can I get access to this data?

I'm thinking of making a wanted list for the complete set and then 'subtract'
the parts that I own in my store inventory from it.
Would that be possible in some way or another? Perhaps by making a combination
of exporting and then reimporting XML files but I don't know how.
There must be a way - at least I hope so

Thanks to anyone who can shine a light upon this.
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 09:30
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You’re welcome, glad I could help!

In General, Llain writes:
  Thankyou, I had not used brickstore before, I installed it and it solves my problems
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Thankyou, I had not used brickstore before, I installed it and it solves my problems


In General, MrPetovan writes:
  The wanted list download button gives an XML file that can’t be opened as is
with a spreadsheet program. However is I believe the Brickstore software can
import BrickLink’s XML and export a spreadsheet-friendly format like CSV.

In General, Llain writes:
  Is it possible to download my wanted list into a spreadsheet? I use open office
calc.
If I just use the download option it will not load up in the spreadsheet, I just
get an error. Any ideas please?
 Author: Llain View Messages Posted By Llain
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In General, stearns writes:
  In General, Llain writes:
  Is it possible to download my wanted list into a spreadsheet? I use open office
calc.
If I just use the download option it will not load up in the spreadsheet, I just
get an error. Any ideas please?

I'm not sure if Calc can import xml files easily; anyone? There is an option
in the Data menu called "XML Source", but I haven't figured out how it works
so far. I use the low-tech approach - open Wanted list, select all/copy, paste
into a plain text editor to get rid of the pictures, clean up the layout with
search/replace, then copy/paste the whole thing into Calc. Probably not the most
efficient method though.

Yes that is my back-up plan thanks
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In General, stearns writes:
  In General, Llain writes:
  Is it possible to download my wanted list into a spreadsheet? I use open office
calc.
If I just use the download option it will not load up in the spreadsheet, I just
get an error. Any ideas please?

I'm not sure if Calc can import xml files easily; anyone? There is an option
in the Data menu called "XML Source", but I haven't figured out how it works
so far. I use the low-tech approach - open Wanted list, select all/copy, paste
into a plain text editor to get rid of the pictures, clean up the layout with
search/replace, then copy/paste the whole thing into Calc. Probably not the most
efficient method though.

Here’s how it works in LibreOffice (not sure if OpenOffice got the same updates…):

Data | XML Source opens a dialog

1. Click on the icon to load the XML file.
It should now show the structure of the document on the left (INVENTORY ITEM
ITEMTYPE…).

2. Click on ITEM.
It select ITEM and the attributes below (the future columns).

Now the box on the right is clickable (it starts disabled / greyed out).

3. Click in the box on the right.
4. Click a cell in your spreadsheet.
It will be the top left corner of the imported data.

Now the “Import” button is clickable (it starts disabled / greyed out).

5. Click Import at the bottom.
The data should now have been imported.


I’m not sure there’s any way to export the data afterward.

Also, the XML format obviously doesn’t have pictures… but it also doesn’t include
the parts descriptions, just the IDs.
So BrickStore could really be a better option.
 Author: LegoLDK View Messages Posted By LegoLDK
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MS Excel will open XML files in a nice table format.


In General, Llain writes:
  Is it possible to download my wanted list into a spreadsheet? I use open office
calc.
If I just use the download option it will not load up in the spreadsheet, I just
get an error. Any ideas please?
 Author: MrPetovan View Messages Posted By MrPetovan
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The wanted list download button gives an XML file that can’t be opened as is
with a spreadsheet program. However is I believe the Brickstore software can
import BrickLink’s XML and export a spreadsheet-friendly format like CSV.

In General, Llain writes:
  Is it possible to download my wanted list into a spreadsheet? I use open office
calc.
If I just use the download option it will not load up in the spreadsheet, I just
get an error. Any ideas please?
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In General, Llain writes:
  Is it possible to download my wanted list into a spreadsheet? I use open office
calc.
If I just use the download option it will not load up in the spreadsheet, I just
get an error. Any ideas please?

I'm not sure if Calc can import xml files easily; anyone? There is an option
in the Data menu called "XML Source", but I haven't figured out how it works
so far. I use the low-tech approach - open Wanted list, select all/copy, paste
into a plain text editor to get rid of the pictures, clean up the layout with
search/replace, then copy/paste the whole thing into Calc. Probably not the most
efficient method though.
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Jun 3, 2021 05:43
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Thanks for replying. It's indeed not a very practical solution.
However I found another trick: part out the set to an empty stockroom, let's
say C. Then under Inventory Detail search for all parts from the same set and
sort by quantity ascending. Where it says zero then you don't have the part
available in your store.

Now I have to find out to empty the stockroom C...

In General, macebobo writes:
  Part the set out and then check for all those items that do not say "You
already have the same part in your inventory! (View Inventory Detail)"

Not optimum, but this will do what you asked.


In General, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Hi smart heads,
When I check the value of a set for part out I'm always intrigued by the
My Inventory Average, especially the part that tells the number of parts & lots
that I don't have in my store inventory (first screen).

What I tried myself is the "parts from set" function in the extended inventory
search (second screen). When I click Go, I get a list of all parts from my inventory
that also are in the set I'm searching for, but it's not what I want!

Is there a way to find out what those missing 164 items in 53 lots (in my example)
are? Bricklink seems to know, but how can I get access to this data?

I'm thinking of making a wanted list for the complete set and then 'subtract'
the parts that I own in my store inventory from it.
Would that be possible in some way or another? Perhaps by making a combination
of exporting and then reimporting XML files but I don't know how.
There must be a way - at least I hope so

Thanks to anyone who can shine a light upon this.
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Is it possible to download my wanted list into a spreadsheet? I use open office
calc.
If I just use the download option it will not load up in the spreadsheet, I just
get an error. Any ideas please?
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In General, kaat writes:
  In General, Stellar writes:
  But which for North Ireland? UK 20% or Seller %?

United Kingdom 20

And what about Monaco?

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/eu-vat-rules-topic/territorial-status-eu-countries-certain-territories_en

There are special rules for Northern Ireland, from within the EU it should be
20% (based on UK VAT rate I guess) and then the code XI is used as if it were
an EU country. See https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat-news/brexit-northern-ireland-vat-and-eoro--xi--number.html

As for Monaco, I think that is part of the French VAT system so its 20% is used.

Thanks!
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Lego is also officially against depictions of violence in non-fantasy or long
ago historical sets so clearly a sniper rifle is not something they would have
much use for.

In General, phanithans writes:
  I noticed something while looking at the Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Blaster Long
(SW). This piece isn't used in any sets except Star Wars sets. Why does lego
not use Star Wars guns in other lego sets? The Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Blaster
Long (SW) would make a great sniper rifle. I'm curious why they would limit
these great pieces to just one theme.
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In General, kaat writes:
  […]
  Why can’t the people who write these explanation articles really explain things?

Haha it's like a puzzle

On the site of the dutch chamber of commerce, I found that when you do not use
VAT (In NL the limit is 20K) but you do have 10K+ sales to EU consumers, you
will then need to use the tax system anyway and so the 20K limit is gone. Source
(in dutch) https://www.kvk.nl/advies-en-informatie/internationaal-ondernemen/e-commerce/btw-regels-voor-e-commerce-in-de-eu/

In this case, it's not possible to be liable for EU VAT and exempt for domestic
VAT. The reverse is possible, in case you stay below the 10K EU limit. But EU
VAT means also domestic VAT.

Quote:
When you make use of the small business scheme (KOR), you have an annual turnover
of less than 20,000 euros. By participating in the KOR you are exempt from VAT.
If you exceed the threshold of 10,000 euros in turnover in EU Member States other
than the Netherlands with your webshop, you become liable for VAT in the relevant
EU Member States. At that time, the VAT rules of the EU member state of your
consumer apply. The Dutch KOR will then no longer apply.

Dang.  “Puzzle” is too kind a word!

I dug a bit more:
– in France, you need a French VAT number to register to the OSS,
— when they talk about the threshold for registration, they don’t say anything
about the new 10k€ threshold for EU sales, it’s still “just” 82,800€ for commercial
activities.

At the same time, everybody says that if you’re above the threshold, you are
liable for VAT.  So you need to register to the OSS¹ but, for that, you need
to be registered domestically.
Catch 22!

(¹ Or in each EU country, but let’s keep it simple )

And all that needs to be done before July 1st / before your first non-domestic
sale.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  […]
Yep, but the question is which rule will apply first. Is this new rule of exact
percentages for everybody, and the VAT exemption applying only domestically,
or do you first need to qualify as a VAT registered business in the first place,
and THEN you have to look at what exact percentages to levy? I am assuming the
latter - I think the rule is about making the percentages more precise rather
than making sellers be obligated to pay VAT more often. But yes, if it turns
out it's the other way around, it's going to be an odd side effect.

I eventually found this:

“Quelles entreprises sont concernées ?
Le guichet unique de TVA concerne tous les assujettis, quel que soit leur régime
d’imposition à la TVA : […]”
“Which businesses are concerned?
The VAT one-stop-shop concerns all taxable persons, regardless of their VAT regime”
https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/professionnel/suis-je-concerne-0

So one’d need to be “assujettis” (subjected / taxable) first (if you don’t apply
VAT, you’re “non assujettis”).  Phew!

Why can’t the people who write these explanation articles really explain things?

Haha it's like a puzzle

On the site of the dutch chamber of commerce, I found that when you do not use
VAT (In NL the limit is 20K) but you do have 10K+ sales to EU consumers, you
will then need to use the tax system anyway and so the 20K limit is gone. Source
(in dutch) https://www.kvk.nl/advies-en-informatie/internationaal-ondernemen/e-commerce/btw-regels-voor-e-commerce-in-de-eu/

In this case, it's not possible to be liable for EU VAT and exempt for domestic
VAT. The reverse is possible, in case you stay below the 10K EU limit. But EU
VAT means also domestic VAT.

Quote:
When you make use of the small business scheme (KOR), you have an annual turnover
of less than 20,000 euros. By participating in the KOR you are exempt from VAT.
If you exceed the threshold of 10,000 euros in turnover in EU Member States other
than the Netherlands with your webshop, you become liable for VAT in the relevant
EU Member States. At that time, the VAT rules of the EU member state of your
consumer apply. The Dutch KOR will then no longer apply.
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In General, Stellar writes:
  But which for North Ireland? UK 20% or Seller %?

United Kingdom 20

And what about Monaco?

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/eu-vat-rules-topic/territorial-status-eu-countries-certain-territories_en

There are special rules for Northern Ireland, from within the EU it should be
20% (based on UK VAT rate I guess) and then the code XI is used as if it were
an EU country. See https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat-news/brexit-northern-ireland-vat-and-eoro--xi--number.html

As for Monaco, I think that is part of the French VAT system so its 20% is used.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  BTW, it’s if you sell 10k€ per year PER COUNTRY, not your total income.
So it’s if you sold over 10k€ last year to country X that you need to apply country
X’s VAT rate to your country X buyers now.

It is my understanding that it is 10000 EUR to all EU countries added together
(except your own country). So if a Dutch sellet sold for example 9000 EUR to
Germany and 2000 EUR to Belgium they'd have to charge the buyer's country's
VAT rate on all their sales in the EU.

The 10000 EUR threshold is based on sales value excluding VAT and excluding intra-community
supplies (sales at 0% VAT to VAT-registered businesses in other EU countries).

My, I found less simplified / less confusing sites, and you’re right.  That’s
a ginormous change!

They went from a 35k€ to 100k€ threshold per country to a 10k€ global threshold.

That means the per-country threshold actually went down to 1€.

That also means there’s even more risks of being forced to collect VAT for other
EU countries while you still don’t have to in your own country.  Madness.

On the other hand, that simplifies BL’s work: always apply buyer’s rate or always
apply seller’s rate.

So this rates:

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/eu-vat-rules-topic/vat-rates_en

Belgium 21
Bulgaria 20
Czech Republic 21
Denmark 25
Germany 19
Estonia 20
Ireland 23
Greece 24
Spain 21
France 20
Croatia 25
Italy 22
Cyprus 19
Latvia 21
Lithuania 21
Luxembourg 17
Hungary 27
Malta 18
Netherlands 21
Austria 20
Poland 23
Portugal 23
Romania 19
Slovenia 22
Slovakia 20
Finland 24
Sweden 25

But which for North Ireland? UK 20% or Seller %?

United Kingdom 20

And what about Monaco?

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/eu-vat-rules-topic/territorial-status-eu-countries-certain-territories_en

  
Even more happy not to be a real seller
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In General, Teup writes:
  […]
Yep, but the question is which rule will apply first. Is this new rule of exact
percentages for everybody, and the VAT exemption applying only domestically,
or do you first need to qualify as a VAT registered business in the first place,
and THEN you have to look at what exact percentages to levy? I am assuming the
latter - I think the rule is about making the percentages more precise rather
than making sellers be obligated to pay VAT more often. But yes, if it turns
out it's the other way around, it's going to be an odd side effect.

I eventually found this:

“Quelles entreprises sont concernées ?
Le guichet unique de TVA concerne tous les assujettis, quel que soit leur régime
d’imposition à la TVA : […]”
“Which businesses are concerned?
The VAT one-stop-shop concerns all taxable persons, regardless of their VAT regime”
https://www.impots.gouv.fr/portail/professionnel/suis-je-concerne-0

So one’d need to be “assujettis” (subjected / taxable) first (if you don’t apply
VAT, you’re “non assujettis”).  Phew!

Why can’t the people who write these explanation articles really explain things?
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  That also means there’s even more risks of being forced to collect VAT for other
EU countries while you still don’t have to in your own country.  Madness.

Haha, that's an interesting point actually. I wonder which takes prevalence
here: The fact you don't need to charge VAT, or the fact that you should
use the percentage of the country of the buyer. I would guess the first, but
it can totally turn out to be one of those oversights in the system..

Well, in the old scheme, the thresholds were high enough that nobody was in the
situation of not being registered at home and having to register abroad.

With a threshold of €85,800 in France, €10,000 sold in EU is 11.65%.  I believe
that’s low, no?

Yep, but the question is which rule will apply first. Is this new rule of exact
percentages for everybody, and the VAT exemption applying only domestically,
or do you first need to qualify as a VAT registered business in the first place,
and THEN you have to look at what exact percentages to levy? I am assuming the
latter - I think the rule is about making the percentages more precise rather
than making sellers be obligated to pay VAT more often. But yes, if it turns
out it's the other way around, it's going to be an odd side effect.
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Because they are a licensed Star Wars product.

In General, phanithans writes:
  I noticed something while looking at the Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Blaster Long
(SW). This piece isn't used in any sets except Star Wars sets. Why does lego
not use Star Wars guns in other lego sets? The Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Blaster
Long (SW) would make a great sniper rifle. I'm curious why they would limit
these great pieces to just one theme.
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I noticed something while looking at the Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Blaster Long
(SW). This piece isn't used in any sets except Star Wars sets. Why does lego
not use Star Wars guns in other lego sets? The Minifigure, Weapon Gun, Blaster
Long (SW) would make a great sniper rifle. I'm curious why they would limit
these great pieces to just one theme.
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Part the set out and then check for all those items that do not say "You
already have the same part in your inventory! (View Inventory Detail)"

Not optimum, but this will do what you asked.


In General, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Hi smart heads,
When I check the value of a set for part out I'm always intrigued by the
My Inventory Average, especially the part that tells the number of parts & lots
that I don't have in my store inventory (first screen).

What I tried myself is the "parts from set" function in the extended inventory
search (second screen). When I click Go, I get a list of all parts from my inventory
that also are in the set I'm searching for, but it's not what I want!

Is there a way to find out what those missing 164 items in 53 lots (in my example)
are? Bricklink seems to know, but how can I get access to this data?

I'm thinking of making a wanted list for the complete set and then 'subtract'
the parts that I own in my store inventory from it.
Would that be possible in some way or another? Perhaps by making a combination
of exporting and then reimporting XML files but I don't know how.
There must be a way - at least I hope so

Thanks to anyone who can shine a light upon this.
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In General, Teup writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  That also means there’s even more risks of being forced to collect VAT for other
EU countries while you still don’t have to in your own country.  Madness.

Haha, that's an interesting point actually. I wonder which takes prevalence
here: The fact you don't need to charge VAT, or the fact that you should
use the percentage of the country of the buyer. I would guess the first, but
it can totally turn out to be one of those oversights in the system..

Well, in the old scheme, the thresholds were high enough that nobody was in the
situation of not being registered at home and having to register abroad.

With a threshold of €85,800 in France, €10,000 sold in EU is 11.65%.  I believe
that’s low, no?
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Hi smart heads,
When I check the value of a set for part out I'm always intrigued by the
My Inventory Average, especially the part that tells the number of parts & lots
that I don't have in my store inventory (first screen).

What I tried myself is the "parts from set" function in the extended inventory
search (second screen). When I click Go, I get a list of all parts from my inventory
that also are in the set I'm searching for, but it's not what I want!

Is there a way to find out what those missing 164 items in 53 lots (in my example)
are? Bricklink seems to know, but how can I get access to this data?

I'm thinking of making a wanted list for the complete set and then 'subtract'
the parts that I own in my store inventory from it.
Would that be possible in some way or another? Perhaps by making a combination
of exporting and then reimporting XML files but I don't know how.
There must be a way - at least I hope so

Thanks to anyone who can shine a light upon this.
 


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Dank je voor je reactie en link Teup!

In General, Teup writes:
  That's the old system, read the other posts for the new.
In short,
The bad news: there will be a single €10.000 limit for all foreign EU countries
combined.
The good news: you can register for the OSS ("unieregeling") so you can do it
all in one domestic report instead of having to deal with different foreign agencies:
https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/btw/content/e-commerce-en-diensten-in-de-eu-kijk-wat-er-verandert-voor-de-btw-x

So yes, big sellers are going to have to keep track of sales per individual country
from now on.

In General, ZwarteMagica writes:
  If you go over €10k per country you are required to register in that country.
If you choose to apply the buyers tax rate you are also required to register
in that country. If both do not apply you are allowed to follow your local rules.
This counts for the Netherlands, but as far as my knowledge goes it is the same
in the whole EU.

In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, Legondary writes:
  From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

This is not entirely correct (or maybe a bit too simplified). If you sell more
than 10000 EUR to other EU countries you will have to charge the VAT rate of
the buyer's country. If you stay below the limit you may charge your own
country's VAT rate but you can voluntarily choose to charge the buyer's
country's VAT rate on all your sales.
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That's the old system, read the other posts for the new.
In short,
The bad news: there will be a single €10.000 limit for all foreign EU countries
combined.
The good news: you can register for the OSS ("unieregeling") so you can do it
all in one domestic report instead of having to deal with different foreign agencies:
https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/btw/content/e-commerce-en-diensten-in-de-eu-kijk-wat-er-verandert-voor-de-btw-x

So yes, big sellers are going to have to keep track of sales per individual country
from now on.

In General, ZwarteMagica writes:
  If you go over €10k per country you are required to register in that country.
If you choose to apply the buyers tax rate you are also required to register
in that country. If both do not apply you are allowed to follow your local rules.
This counts for the Netherlands, but as far as my knowledge goes it is the same
in the whole EU.

In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, Legondary writes:
  From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

This is not entirely correct (or maybe a bit too simplified). If you sell more
than 10000 EUR to other EU countries you will have to charge the VAT rate of
the buyer's country. If you stay below the limit you may charge your own
country's VAT rate but you can voluntarily choose to charge the buyer's
country's VAT rate on all your sales.
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If you go over €10k per country you are required to register in that country.
If you choose to apply the buyers tax rate you are also required to register
in that country. If both do not apply you are allowed to follow your local rules.
This counts for the Netherlands, but as far as my knowledge goes it is the same
in the whole EU.

In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, Legondary writes:
  From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

This is not entirely correct (or maybe a bit too simplified). If you sell more
than 10000 EUR to other EU countries you will have to charge the VAT rate of
the buyer's country. If you stay below the limit you may charge your own
country's VAT rate but you can voluntarily choose to charge the buyer's
country's VAT rate on all your sales.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  That also means there’s even more risks of being forced to collect VAT for other
EU countries while you still don’t have to in your own country.  Madness.

Haha, that's an interesting point actually. I wonder which takes prevalence
here: The fact you don't need to charge VAT, or the fact that you should
use the percentage of the country of the buyer. I would guess the first, but
it can totally turn out to be one of those oversights in the system..
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, maxx3001 writes:
  […]
They had the LEGO logo on their wooden toys long before they started with plastics.
So I think they knew about branding.

Yes, hot-iron branding (or carving).  Easy to do on wood, more difficult on small
plastic bricks

No, decals, see this old wooden duck.

  
  Like I said, because they essentially ‘took’ the Kiddicraft brick, maybe they
first wanted to find out if they were allowed to use it.
Also, it was a big step going from wood to plastics, it is a totally different
game.

The big step for LEGO was made when they made everything conform into one system.
The System in play, now you get the packaging going from small sets to bigger
sets within one system.

Still, marketing-wise, stamping the visible studs is genius.

Hard to look at it backwards, but Mega blocks has just 1 logo on top of their
bricks.
Who knows what we would say looking back had LEGO chosen to put their logo anywhere
else.....

  

  The tubes underneath the bricks paved the way to become a serious building form.
Now you could pick up your build without it falling apart.

As I said, it is a great history, worth looking into.
 


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In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  BTW, it’s if you sell 10k€ per year PER COUNTRY, not your total income.
So it’s if you sold over 10k€ last year to country X that you need to apply country
X’s VAT rate to your country X buyers now.

It is my understanding that it is 10000 EUR to all EU countries added together
(except your own country). So if a Dutch sellet sold for example 9000 EUR to
Germany and 2000 EUR to Belgium they'd have to charge the buyer's country's
VAT rate on all their sales in the EU.

The 10000 EUR threshold is based on sales value excluding VAT and excluding intra-community
supplies (sales at 0% VAT to VAT-registered businesses in other EU countries).

My, I found less simplified / less confusing sites, and you’re right.  That’s
a ginormous change!

They went from a 35k€ to 100k€ threshold per country to a 10k€ global threshold.

That means the per-country threshold actually went down to 1€.

That also means there’s even more risks of being forced to collect VAT for other
EU countries while you still don’t have to in your own country.  Madness.

On the other hand, that simplifies BL’s work: always apply buyer’s rate or always
apply seller’s rate.

Even more happy not to be a real seller
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  BTW, it’s if you sell 10k€ per year PER COUNTRY, not your total income.
So it’s if you sold over 10k€ last year to country X that you need to apply country
X’s VAT rate to your country X buyers now.

It is my understanding that it is 10000 EUR to all EU countries added together
(except your own country). So if a Dutch sellet sold for example 9000 EUR to
Germany and 2000 EUR to Belgium they'd have to charge the buyer's country's
VAT rate on all their sales in the EU.

The 10000 EUR threshold is based on sales value excluding VAT and excluding intra-community
supplies (sales at 0% VAT to VAT-registered businesses in other EU countries).
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From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

Eg. I sell over 10K€ per year. If I sell (based in Belgium) to France, I will
need to apply the French VAT rate on my order instead of the Belgian VAT rate.

BTW, it’s if you sell 10k€ per year PER COUNTRY, not your total income.
So it’s if you sold over 10k€ last year to country X that you need to apply country
X’s VAT rate to your country X buyers now.

Before, you needed to check the threshold for every country and necessarily register
IN EACH COUNTRY you made more than THIS COUNTRY’s threshold.
Now, the threshold is the same for every country, and you may use a “One-Shop-Stop”
internet website to fill all your paperwork (and not have to register in each
country).

So, as I understand it, that only works for the countries in which you sell over
10k€, not the others.  In the others, you still charge your local VAT.

E.g., you’re French, you make 100.000€ a year, you’re registered for VAT in France. 
You made 15.000€ in Belgium and 9.000€ in Germany last year.
— Before, you didn’t have to register in Belgium or Germany, everybody paid French
VAT.
— Now, you’ll have to use the Belgian VAT rate for your Belgian buyers but you’ll
still use French VAT for French and German buyers.  And you can either register
for VAT in Belgium or use the website to declare the Belgian VAT.  Your sales
in Germany are treated as before.

What’s funny is if you’re below your country’s threshold (85,600€ in France)
but above 10k€ in one other EU country….


  Selling platforms like E-bay, Amazon, Bol.com and therefor in my opinion, BL
as well, will need to enable this way of invoicing.

Yeah, BL will need to allow sellers to say in which EU countries they need to
apply the buyer’s VAT rate and not the seller’s VAT rate.  Or allow sellers to
change the VAT rate on the invoices manually (but if you make more than 10k€
in one country, you certainly have many orders there, so that could be tedious).
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They had the LEGO logo on their wooden toys long before they started with plastics.
So I think they knew about branding.

Yes, hot-iron branding (or carving).  Easy to do on wood, more difficult on small
plastic bricks


  Like I said, because they essentially ‘took’ the Kiddicraft brick, maybe they
first wanted to find out if they were allowed to use it.
Also, it was a big step going from wood to plastics, it is a totally different
game.

The big step for LEGO was made when they made everything conform into one system.
The System in play, now you get the packaging going from small sets to bigger
sets within one system.

Still, marketing-wise, stamping the visible studs is genius.


  The tubes underneath the bricks paved the way to become a serious building form.
Now you could pick up your build without it falling apart.

As I said, it is a great history, worth looking into.
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The first LEGO bricks did not have a logo, maybe because LEGO did not invent
those bricks, but took the idea from Kiddicraft.
Some time later these bricks came with the logo on the inside, after that came
the stud logo.
There are a few double logo bricks, with logo both on the inside and on the studs.

It is a great thing to look into.

They just took time to learn/refine marketting: put your brand on the package,
then on the back of the product, then very visible on the product, so much visible
that only your brand is associated with the product / the stud now.

They might even have invented something there.  Any marketting historian here?

They had the LEGO logo on their wooden toys long before they started with plastics.
So I think they knew about branding.

Like I said, because they essentially ‘took’ the Kiddicraft brick, maybe they
first wanted to find out if they were allowed to use it.
Also, it was a big step going from wood to plastics, it is a totally different
game.

The big step for LEGO was made when they made everything conform into one system.
The System in play, now you get the packaging going from small sets to bigger
sets within one system.

The tubes underneath the bricks paved the way to become a serious building form.
Now you could pick up your build without it falling apart.

As I said, it is a great history, worth looking into.
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  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  […]
Well, I mean, it was just a gimmick of the Dutch tax site. I had to report my
sales to NL, to EU and to the rest of the world, and there was this strange custom
where you had to write your sales to EU down in the "NL" field. Otherwise it
would trigger an intracommunity transaction for (=B2B sale, with VAT IDs and
all). Clearly, the system assumes that consumers are all located in your own
country and sales to other countries must be business sales. Something from another
era I suppose

Well, VAT-wise, you have:
1. sales where you collect VAT,
2. sales where you don’t collect VAT and the buyer is supposed to auto-collect,
3. sales where you export out of EU and VAT is 0%.
The first two types can be local or intra-EU.

And, statistics-wise, your country wants to know how the sales are distributed
between local, EU, & out of UE.

The two are different, therefore different entries (plus, they always want you
to fill the same numbers in different ways so that they can catch “errors”
).

Yeah, that makes sense, in the current tax layout here we only have 3 flavours:
"Dutch consumers + businesses", "EU businesses" and "world". So EU consumers
were kind of awkwardly dubbed "Dutch consumers" only to produce the correct VAT
result.. So yeah, I can see how that needs a makeover

  
  

  I'm still highly confused if BL WILL or WILL NOT act as the seller for VAT
purposes for transactions within the EU.

AFAIK, there’s still no laws to make or even authorize BL to do that.

Oh... That would've saved a lot of paperwork...

Yep, and a less friendly benefit to you, it would pretty much kill the hobby
sellers. If I am correct in assuming BL would be forced to charge VAT over all
sales. Bad for the hobby sellers, great for businesses. Although fewer hobby
sellers would mean less traffic to Bricklink, too. Will be interesting to see
if it ends up going in that direction or not.

  Then it will be on us but with a setting (hopefully for July 1st 2021) on BL
to charge VAT % according to the consumer country.

It's a nice acid test to see if Bricklink is indeed on a track of starting
to take sellers seriously. They had some time to prepare it, it's a fairly
simple change for them, and it's an important change. 3 reasons why it should
just work on July 1st IMO.
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They've clearly come a long way since their beginning cloning Kiddicraft
bricks.

You can see their slow transition into today's sleek marketing and product,
a few hiccups on the way, in their basic bricks.

Collecting early pieces shows up all the refining of both the product and it's
branding that have happened over the years.

The change from slotted to hollow, then to tubes and supported tubes, each phase
having numerous variations, refining the injection points as they went.

The change from no logo to different base logos, changing to stud and base logo,
from that through numerous styles of stud logo only.

Then of course you have the test bricks in all it's forms and colours, not
to mention the unofficial pieces from various moulding companies.

There are many other things I could mention but then it's getting too geeky.





In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, maxx3001 writes:
  […]
The first LEGO bricks did not have a logo, maybe because LEGO did not invent
those bricks, but took the idea from Kiddicraft.
Some time later these bricks came with the logo on the inside, after that came
the stud logo.
There are a few double logo bricks, with logo both on the inside and on the studs.

It is a great thing to look into.

They just took time to learn/refine marketting: put your brand on the package,
then on the back of the product, then very visible on the product, so much visible
that only your brand is associated with the product / the stud now.

They might even have invented something there.  Any marketting historian here?
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  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Last chance to remind myself what I've tucked away, borrowed a couple of
poor images off my Flickr account as items not to hand.

Just about packed my Lego away, including my shop, now for the rest of the house.

Not sure I'm going to get this into one large removal truck, might need two
for everything but it looks like it's all going on hold again.

Time to throw some stuff out, divorce helped me get rid of a lot of shite

Doing just that, getting rid of a lot of stuff I've kept just in case it's
useful.
  
  
Looks like I've lost my buyer, couple wanted to move her father next door
to them but it appears they are splitting up, not a good idea to live next door.

To bad, maybe she can keep the house and still put her father next door

They aren't married, he's much older and owns the house, she doesn't
  
  
Oh well, next stop is the estate agents, let's test the market and see if
turns out to be a blessing.

It's the job that I'm struggling to cope with, not good at all but I
can't afford to quit until I have a definite buyer just need my sanity to
hold.

I know the feeling, my having been sick followed by a divorce isn’t a

Sadly too many people go through massive upheavals, much more than myself but
it's never easy for anyone, it's great to see you back here on a regular
basis.

BL's not the same without you and others with a great deal of knowledge,
I've learnt an awful lot since I first began and still learning .

  
  


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  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Not only Dark grey but double logo, Lego on studs and underneath.

Cleaning up does help, right
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The first LEGO bricks did not have a logo, maybe because LEGO did not invent
those bricks, but took the idea from Kiddicraft.
Some time later these bricks came with the logo on the inside, after that came
the stud logo.
There are a few double logo bricks, with logo both on the inside and on the studs.

It is a great thing to look into.

They just took time to learn/refine marketting: put your brand on the package,
then on the back of the product, then very visible on the product, so much visible
that only your brand is associated with the product / the stud now.

They might even have invented something there.  Any marketting historian here?
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  Last chance to remind myself what I've tucked away, borrowed a couple of
poor images off my Flickr account as items not to hand.

Just about packed my Lego away, including my shop, now for the rest of the house.

Not sure I'm going to get this into one large removal truck, might need two
for everything but it looks like it's all going on hold again.

Time to throw some stuff out, divorce helped me get rid of a lot of shite

  
Looks like I've lost my buyer, couple wanted to move her father next door
to them but it appears they are splitting up, not a good idea to live next door.

To bad, maybe she can keep the house and still put her father next door

  
Oh well, next stop is the estate agents, let's test the market and see if
turns out to be a blessing.

It's the job that I'm struggling to cope with, not good at all but I
can't afford to quit until I have a definite buyer just need my sanity to
hold.

I know the feeling, my having been sick followed by a divorce isn’t a picknick

  


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  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Not only Dark grey but double logo, Lego on studs and underneath.

Cleaning up does help, right
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Last chance to remind myself what I've tucked away, borrowed a couple of
poor images off my Flickr account as items not to hand.

Just about packed my Lego away, including my shop, now for the rest of the house.

Not sure I'm going to get this into one large removal truck, might need two
for everything but it looks like it's all going on hold again.

Looks like I've lost my buyer, couple wanted to move her father next door
to them but it appears they are splitting up, not a good idea to live next door.

Oh well, next stop is the estate agents, let's test the market and see if
turns out to be a blessing.

It's the job that I'm struggling to cope with, not good at all but I
can't afford to quit until I have a definite buyer just need my sanity to
hold.




In General, maxx3001 writes:
  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Not only Dark grey but double logo, Lego on studs and underneath.

Cleaning up does help, right
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  Another oddity to prove you can't rule out other parts in strange colours.


Is that actually Lego? The moulding looks awful and there are no logos on the
pips (that I can see from that image).

Studs. Not pips! D'oh!

The first LEGO bricks did not have a logo, maybe because LEGO did not invent
those bricks, but took the idea from Kiddicraft.
Some time later these bricks came with the logo on the inside, after that came
the stud logo.
There are a few double logo bricks, with logo both on the inside and on the studs.

It is a great thing to look into.

Maxx
 
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  Not only Dark grey but double logo, Lego on studs and underneath.

Cleaning up does help, right
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  Who says that faded pieces aren't worth keeping, they also sell when they
look like this.

Damn, that is some pretty fading, 👍
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Only ever seen windows and doors until l found these.



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  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Genuine Early Tan bricks, not faded, sorry for poor photo, white and yellow for
comparison.

Early widows in trans clear and a milky trans.

Nice, not sure I ever saw Tan in slotted bricks.
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  So here's a bit of a pedantic question...

I'm trying to get all the missing pieces together for my Death Star 10188-1

This set has both 48729 and 48729b in the parts list.

I keep trying to buy part 48729 but being sent 48729b - is there actually a difference
(except for a hole in 48729b) or can they be interchanged ??


https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1270958
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  Genuine Early Tan bricks, not faded, sorry for poor photo, white and yellow for
comparison.

Early widows in trans clear and a milky trans.

Nice, not sure I ever saw Tan in slotted bricks.
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
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Well, I mean, it was just a gimmick of the Dutch tax site. I had to report my
sales to NL, to EU and to the rest of the world, and there was this strange custom
where you had to write your sales to EU down in the "NL" field. Otherwise it
would trigger an intracommunity transaction for (=B2B sale, with VAT IDs and
all). Clearly, the system assumes that consumers are all located in your own
country and sales to other countries must be business sales. Something from another
era I suppose

Well, VAT-wise, you have:
1. sales where you collect VAT,
2. sales where you don’t collect VAT and the buyer is supposed to auto-collect,
3. sales where you export out of EU and VAT is 0%.
The first two types can be local or intra-EU.

And, statistics-wise, your country wants to know how the sales are distributed
between local, EU, & out of UE.

The two are different, therefore different entries (plus, they always want you
to fill the same numbers in different ways so that they can catch “errors”
).


  I'm still highly confused if BL WILL or WILL NOT act as the seller for VAT
purposes for transactions within the EU.

AFAIK, there’s still no laws to make or even authorize BL to do that.

Oh... That would've saved a lot of paperwork...

Then it will be on us but with a setting (hopefully for July 1st 2021) on BL
to charge VAT % according to the consumer country.


  

   But I'll watch the webinar kaat
posted when I have time and I assume that will clear it up.
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Forgot about those, haven't had them for years.





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  Reminds me of salmon shortly after it starts to cook.

You eat too healthy.  I was thinking about strawberry or cherry berlingots

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlingot_nantais
Not the white stripes but when the sugar gets a bit old / crystallizes.
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  Reminds me of salmon shortly after it starts to cook.

You eat too healthy.  I was thinking about strawberry or cherry berlingots

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlingot_nantais
Not the white stripes but when the sugar gets a bit old / crystallizes.
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Well, I mean, it was just a gimmick of the Dutch tax site. I had to report my
sales to NL, to EU and to the rest of the world, and there was this strange custom
where you had to write your sales to EU down in the "NL" field. Otherwise it
would trigger an intracommunity transaction for (=B2B sale, with VAT IDs and
all). Clearly, the system assumes that consumers are all located in your own
country and sales to other countries must be business sales. Something from another
era I suppose

Well, VAT-wise, you have:
1. sales where you collect VAT,
2. sales where you don’t collect VAT and the buyer is supposed to auto-collect,
3. sales where you export out of EU and VAT is 0%.
The first two types can be local or intra-EU.

And, statistics-wise, your country wants to know how the sales are distributed
between local, EU, & out of UE.

The two are different, therefore different entries (plus, they always want you
to fill the same numbers in different ways so that they can catch “errors”
).


  I'm still highly confused if BL WILL or WILL NOT act as the seller for VAT
purposes for transactions within the EU.

AFAIK, there’s still no laws to make or even authorize BL to do that.


   But I'll watch the webinar kaat
posted when I have time and I assume that will clear it up.
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Genuine Early Tan bricks, not faded, sorry for poor photo, white and yellow for
comparison.

Early widows in trans clear and a milky trans.
 




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Reminds me of salmon shortly after it starts to cook.




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look like this.
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Who says that faded pieces aren't worth keeping, they also sell when they
look like this.
 








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In General, SylvainLS writes:
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Well, that was an awkward system anyway, where I had to report EU
sales as if they are "domestic" sales. […]

But they were “domestic”: the point of sale was considered to be your home.

That’s what changes now: the point of sale is the buyer’s home (if you sell more
than €10,000 or if you choose to).

I think that’s an improvement… well, not on the paperwork side but at least as
a clarification: it was a nightmare before because it depended on what was sold,
to simplify material vs. electronic.
(Especially a nightmare because of tax evasion / optimization I guess.)

Well, I mean, it was just a gimmick of the Dutch tax site. I had to report my
sales to NL, to EU and to the rest of the world, and there was this strange custom
where you had to write your sales to EU down in the "NL" field. Otherwise it
would trigger an intracommunity transaction for (=B2B sale, with VAT IDs and
all). Clearly, the system assumes that consumers are all located in your own
country and sales to other countries must be business sales. Something from another
era I suppose

I'm still highly confused if BL WILL or WILL NOT act as the seller for VAT
purposes for transactions within the EU. But I'll watch the webinar kaat
posted when I have time and I assume that will clear it up.
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Hi,

They are CA.





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  In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Not only Dark grey but double logo, Lego on studs and underneath.

Are those ABS or CA ?

Nita Rae
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Well, that was an awkward system anyway, where I had to report EU
sales as if they are "domestic" sales. […]

But they were “domestic”: the point of sale was considered to be your home.

That’s what changes now: the point of sale is the buyer’s home (if you sell more
than €10,000 or if you choose to).

I think that’s an improvement… well, not on the paperwork side but at least as
a clarification: it was a nightmare before because it depended on what was sold,
to simplify material vs. electronic.
(Especially a nightmare because of tax evasion / optimization I guess.)
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In General, kaat writes:
  In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  Thanks! Will check it later. Does that solution require application? I thought
it would work just like the "kleine ondernemersregeling": you can just apply
it or not.. since I don't see any more info on it.. did I miss something?

In General, kaat writes:
  FYI There was a webinar hosted by the dutch tax agency in April that has some
interesting details and explanations. It's in dutch though. See: https://channel.royalcast.com/belastingdienst/#!/belastingdienst/20210420_1

You might want to apply for the One-stop solution ("Unieregeling" in dutch).

According to https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/btw/content/e-commerce-en-diensten-in-de-eu-kijk-wat-er-verandert-voor-de-btw-x
you should continue to charge your customers 21% Dutch VAT if you sell less than
10000 EUR to other EU countries. You only have to register if you want to charge
the buyer's country's VAT rate.

You either register in every EU country (that you sell to) and submit VAT statements
to each of them. Or, you register in a single EU country of choice and use the
OneStop method, which is called "Unieregeling" in Dutch. For this you need to
apply via "Mijn Belastingdienst Zakelijk". Then, you submit all EU VAT related
things in one go (next to the domestic VAT, so you have more paperwork in any
case).

Do watch the webinar, it has several examples and I found it worth the hour and
a half it took.

Ok, will do. I guess that's going to make some extra fields appear on the
VAT report. Well, that was an awkward system anyway, where I had to report EU
sales as if they are "domestic" sales. (There was an EU field but it was only
intended for B2B.)
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In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  Thanks! Will check it later. Does that solution require application? I thought
it would work just like the "kleine ondernemersregeling": you can just apply
it or not.. since I don't see any more info on it.. did I miss something?

In General, kaat writes:
  FYI There was a webinar hosted by the dutch tax agency in April that has some
interesting details and explanations. It's in dutch though. See: https://channel.royalcast.com/belastingdienst/#!/belastingdienst/20210420_1

You might want to apply for the One-stop solution ("Unieregeling" in dutch).

According to https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/btw/content/e-commerce-en-diensten-in-de-eu-kijk-wat-er-verandert-voor-de-btw-x
you should continue to charge your customers 21% Dutch VAT if you sell less than
10000 EUR to other EU countries. You only have to register if you want to charge
the buyer's country's VAT rate.

You either register in every EU country (that you sell to) and submit VAT statements
to each of them. Or, you register in a single EU country of choice and use the
OneStop method, which is called "Unieregeling" in Dutch. For this you need to
apply via "Mijn Belastingdienst Zakelijk". Then, you submit all EU VAT related
things in one go (next to the domestic VAT, so you have more paperwork in any
case).

Do watch the webinar, it has several examples and I found it worth the hour and
a half it took.
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  Thanks! Will check it later. Does that solution require application? I thought
it would work just like the "kleine ondernemersregeling": you can just apply
it or not.. since I don't see any more info on it.. did I miss something?

In General, kaat writes:
  FYI There was a webinar hosted by the dutch tax agency in April that has some
interesting details and explanations. It's in dutch though. See: https://channel.royalcast.com/belastingdienst/#!/belastingdienst/20210420_1

You might want to apply for the One-stop solution ("Unieregeling" in dutch).

According to https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/nl/btw/content/e-commerce-en-diensten-in-de-eu-kijk-wat-er-verandert-voor-de-btw-x
you should continue to charge your customers 21% Dutch VAT if you sell less than
10000 EUR to other EU countries. You only have to register if you want to charge
the buyer's country's VAT rate.
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  In General, Teup writes:
  Hmm good point, I hadn't considered the change of the marketplaces becoming
responsible for VAT. So I guess BL will pay the appropriate VAT amount to the
authorities, and then charge the seller that VAT amount alongside their monthly
fees, something like that? (as separate statements: fees are a business cost,
tax is not). And of course issue a document as proof that VAT has been paid,
like they do now for UK.
I have no idea how to make invoices with "someone else paid my VAT" - is it going
to be an 'export' to California? Anyway, how to handle that is probably
not Bricklink's responsibility, as long as they provide that proof.

The marketplace will only collect VAT for imports into the EU, the same way they
already do for UK VAT and US sales tax. You will still collect VAT for all your
sales to buyers in other EU countries and will report the VAT on those sales
to your own country's tax authority. Your country's tax authority will
then report and pay the VAT to the tax authorities of your buyers' countries.

In order to make this work BL will have to make changes to their VAT system so
that sellers have the option to choose if they will charge the buyer's country's
VAT rate (this will be mandatory if you sell more than 10000 EUR to other EU
countries) or your own country's VAT rate (this will be optional if you sell
less than 10000 EUR to other EU countries). And just to make it clear, it will
of course be up to the seller to make sure that they choose the correct option.
BL won't know if you sell more than 10000 EUR to other EU countries if you
also sell on other marketplaces and/or your own website.

My bad - I thought it was about all imports including with the EU. Well, in that
case all that Bricklink has to do is just show buyers the price including either
the fixed VAT percentage, or the percentage of the country of the buyer in case
the seller has switched on that option. Not much work for Bricklink, mostly extra
work for the sellers to do their administration correctly.
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Thanks! Will check it later. Does that solution require application? I thought
it would work just like the "kleine ondernemersregeling": you can just apply
it or not.. since I don't see any more info on it.. did I miss something?

In General, kaat writes:
  FYI There was a webinar hosted by the dutch tax agency in April that has some
interesting details and explanations. It's in dutch though. See: https://channel.royalcast.com/belastingdienst/#!/belastingdienst/20210420_1

You might want to apply for the One-stop solution ("Unieregeling" in dutch).


In General, Teup writes:
  In General, Legondary writes:
  Hi,

Quick question to this group...

Apparently there are some changes to the EU VAT legislation with regards to E-commerce
or web shops.

From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

Eg. I sell over 10K€ per year. If I sell (based in Belgium) to France, I will
need to apply the French VAT rate on my order instead of the Belgian VAT rate.

Selling platforms like E-bay, Amazon, Bol.com and therefor in my opinion, BL
as well, will need to enable this way of invoicing.

Do any of you guys or girls know more about this?

I am including a link, if this is allowed?
https://business.trustedshops.nl/blog/btw-in-e-commerce
https://www.emerce.nl/achtergrond/nieuwe-btwregels-ecommerce-actiepunten-ondernemers

Kind regards,

Nick

Thanks for the headsup, didn't hear about this before. Will be interesting
to see how Bricklink is going to handle this one and if they manage to get it
done before July. It's also gonna require some work from the sellers to get
their administration organised per country.

For independent webshops this is going to be near impossible to implement in
the way it was intended - typically products just have a listing price and the
administration is calculated afterwards. The easiest way to accommodate the new
system, then, would be to simply count a higher ex-VAT price on the invoice for
countries with a lower VAT percentage, so that the listed prices remain constant.
Bottomline, nothing really changes, just more hassle for businesses, dealing
with dozens of figures instead of just one EU figure. No idea what they're
trying to gain with this.
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In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, Legondary writes:
  From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

This is not entirely correct (or maybe a bit too simplified). If you sell more
than 10000 EUR to other EU countries you will have to charge the VAT rate of
the buyer's country. If you stay below the limit you may charge your own
country's VAT rate but you can voluntarily choose to charge the buyer's
country's VAT rate on all your sales.

Indeed. Also, it's 10K to consumers. A sale to a EU business does not count,
as these would normally be taxed at 0% via the reverse charge.
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FYI There was a webinar hosted by the dutch tax agency in April that has some
interesting details and explanations. It's in dutch though. See: https://channel.royalcast.com/belastingdienst/#!/belastingdienst/20210420_1

You might want to apply for the One-stop solution ("Unieregeling" in dutch).


In General, Teup writes:
  In General, Legondary writes:
  Hi,

Quick question to this group...

Apparently there are some changes to the EU VAT legislation with regards to E-commerce
or web shops.

From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

Eg. I sell over 10K€ per year. If I sell (based in Belgium) to France, I will
need to apply the French VAT rate on my order instead of the Belgian VAT rate.

Selling platforms like E-bay, Amazon, Bol.com and therefor in my opinion, BL
as well, will need to enable this way of invoicing.

Do any of you guys or girls know more about this?

I am including a link, if this is allowed?
https://business.trustedshops.nl/blog/btw-in-e-commerce
https://www.emerce.nl/achtergrond/nieuwe-btwregels-ecommerce-actiepunten-ondernemers

Kind regards,

Nick

Thanks for the headsup, didn't hear about this before. Will be interesting
to see how Bricklink is going to handle this one and if they manage to get it
done before July. It's also gonna require some work from the sellers to get
their administration organised per country.

For independent webshops this is going to be near impossible to implement in
the way it was intended - typically products just have a listing price and the
administration is calculated afterwards. The easiest way to accommodate the new
system, then, would be to simply count a higher ex-VAT price on the invoice for
countries with a lower VAT percentage, so that the listed prices remain constant.
Bottomline, nothing really changes, just more hassle for businesses, dealing
with dozens of figures instead of just one EU figure. No idea what they're
trying to gain with this.
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In General, paulvdb writes:
  In General, Teup writes:
  Hmm good point, I hadn't considered the change of the marketplaces becoming
responsible for VAT. So I guess BL will pay the appropriate VAT amount to the
authorities, and then charge the seller that VAT amount alongside their monthly
fees, something like that? (as separate statements: fees are a business cost,
tax is not). And of course issue a document as proof that VAT has been paid,
like they do now for UK.
I have no idea how to make invoices with "someone else paid my VAT" - is it going
to be an 'export' to California? Anyway, how to handle that is probably
not Bricklink's responsibility, as long as they provide that proof.

The marketplace will only collect VAT for imports into the EU, the same way they
already do for UK VAT and US sales tax. You will still collect VAT for all your
sales to buyers in other EU countries and will report the VAT on those sales
to your own country's tax authority. Your country's tax authority will
then report and pay the VAT to the tax authorities of your buyers' countries.

In order to make this work BL will have to make changes to their VAT system so
that sellers have the option to choose if they will charge the buyer's country's
VAT rate (this will be mandatory if you sell more than 10000 EUR to other EU
countries) or your own country's VAT rate (this will be optional if you sell
less than 10000 EUR to other EU countries). And just to make it clear, it will
of course be up to the seller to make sure that they choose the correct option.
BL won't know if you sell more than 10000 EUR to other EU countries if you
also sell on other marketplaces and/or your own website.

Hi Paul, I totally agree! It should be the seller's responsibility to choose
between both options. If BL would be able to enable the choice between sellers
VAT rate or buyer (based on country they live in) VAT rate, that would be a suitable
solution! Where should we address this? Kind regards, Nick
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In General, starbeanie writes:
  The only difference is the hole. perfectly interchangeable.


In General, gremlinsky writes:
  So here's a bit of a pedantic question...

I'm trying to get all the missing pieces together for my Death Star 10188-1

This set has both 48729 and 48729b in the parts list.

I keep trying to buy part 48729 but being sent 48729b - is there actually a difference
(except for a hole in 48729b) or can they be interchanged ??

OK - many thanks
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The only difference is the hole. perfectly interchangeable.


In General, gremlinsky writes:
  So here's a bit of a pedantic question...

I'm trying to get all the missing pieces together for my Death Star 10188-1

This set has both 48729 and 48729b in the parts list.

I keep trying to buy part 48729 but being sent 48729b - is there actually a difference
(except for a hole in 48729b) or can they be interchanged ??
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In General, Teup writes:
  Hmm good point, I hadn't considered the change of the marketplaces becoming
responsible for VAT. So I guess BL will pay the appropriate VAT amount to the
authorities, and then charge the seller that VAT amount alongside their monthly
fees, something like that? (as separate statements: fees are a business cost,
tax is not). And of course issue a document as proof that VAT has been paid,
like they do now for UK.
I have no idea how to make invoices with "someone else paid my VAT" - is it going
to be an 'export' to California? Anyway, how to handle that is probably
not Bricklink's responsibility, as long as they provide that proof.

The marketplace will only collect VAT for imports into the EU, the same way they
already do for UK VAT and US sales tax. You will still collect VAT for all your
sales to buyers in other EU countries and will report the VAT on those sales
to your own country's tax authority. Your country's tax authority will
then report and pay the VAT to the tax authorities of your buyers' countries.

In order to make this work BL will have to make changes to their VAT system so
that sellers have the option to choose if they will charge the buyer's country's
VAT rate (this will be mandatory if you sell more than 10000 EUR to other EU
countries) or your own country's VAT rate (this will be optional if you sell
less than 10000 EUR to other EU countries). And just to make it clear, it will
of course be up to the seller to make sure that they choose the correct option.
BL won't know if you sell more than 10000 EUR to other EU countries if you
also sell on other marketplaces and/or your own website.
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So here's a bit of a pedantic question...

I'm trying to get all the missing pieces together for my Death Star 10188-1

This set has both 48729 and 48729b in the parts list.

I keep trying to buy part 48729 but being sent 48729b - is there actually a difference
(except for a hole in 48729b) or can they be interchanged ??
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In General, Stellar writes:
  In General, Legondary writes:
  Hi,

Quick question to this group...

Apparently there are some changes to the EU VAT legislation with regards to E-commerce
or web shops.

From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

Eg. I sell over 10K€ per year. If I sell (based in Belgium) to France, I will
need to apply the French VAT rate on my order instead of the Belgian VAT rate.

Selling platforms like E-bay, Amazon, Bol.com and therefor in my opinion, BL
as well, will need to enable this way of invoicing.

Do any of you guys or girls know more about this?

I am including a link, if this is allowed?
https://business.trustedshops.nl/blog/btw-in-e-commerce
https://www.emerce.nl/achtergrond/nieuwe-btwregels-ecommerce-actiepunten-ondernemers

Kind regards,

Nick

Here is the official EU website link:

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/vat-e-commerce_en

The existing thresholds for distance sales of goods within the EU will be
abolished and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000. Below this EUR
10 000 threshold, the supplies of TBE (telecommunications, broadcasting and electronic)
services and distance sales of goods within the EU may remain subject to VAT
in the Member State where the taxable person is established.


The best would be if BL handles it like the orders to UK but with accepting offsite
payment methods too, like IBAN.

Hmm good point, I hadn't considered the change of the marketplaces becoming
responsible for VAT. So I guess BL will pay the appropriate VAT amount to the
authorities, and then charge the seller that VAT amount alongside their monthly
fees, something like that? (as separate statements: fees are a business cost,
tax is not). And of course issue a document as proof that VAT has been paid,
like they do now for UK.
I have no idea how to make invoices with "someone else paid my VAT" - is it going
to be an 'export' to California? Anyway, how to handle that is probably
not Bricklink's responsibility, as long as they provide that proof.
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In General, Legondary writes:
  Hi,

Quick question to this group...

Apparently there are some changes to the EU VAT legislation with regards to E-commerce
or web shops.

From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

Eg. I sell over 10K€ per year. If I sell (based in Belgium) to France, I will
need to apply the French VAT rate on my order instead of the Belgian VAT rate.

Selling platforms like E-bay, Amazon, Bol.com and therefor in my opinion, BL
as well, will need to enable this way of invoicing.

Do any of you guys or girls know more about this?

I am including a link, if this is allowed?
https://business.trustedshops.nl/blog/btw-in-e-commerce
https://www.emerce.nl/achtergrond/nieuwe-btwregels-ecommerce-actiepunten-ondernemers

Kind regards,

Nick

Here is the official EU website link:

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/vat-e-commerce_en

The existing thresholds for distance sales of goods within the EU will be
abolished and replaced by a new EU-wide threshold of EUR 10 000. Below this EUR
10 000 threshold, the supplies of TBE (telecommunications, broadcasting and electronic)
services and distance sales of goods within the EU may remain subject to VAT
in the Member State where the taxable person is established.


The best would be if BL handles it like the orders to UK but with accepting offsite
payment methods too, like IBAN.
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In General, Teup writes:
  Bottomline, nothing really changes, just more hassle for businesses, dealing
with dozens of figures instead of just one EU figure. No idea what they're
trying to gain with this.

Preventing tax avoidance probably. Under the current rules a business could base
themselves in the country with the lowest VAT rate and charge lower prices to
their buyers and/or make more profit. There are already limits per country but
they are much higher than the new limit of 10000 EUR for sales to the whole EU.
So right now only large shops (for example Amazon) already have to charge the
VAT rate of the buyer's country.
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In General, Legondary writes:
  From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

This is not entirely correct (or maybe a bit too simplified). If you sell more
than 10000 EUR to other EU countries you will have to charge the VAT rate of
the buyer's country. If you stay below the limit you may charge your own
country's VAT rate but you can voluntarily choose to charge the buyer's
country's VAT rate on all your sales.
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In General, Legondary writes:
  Hi,

Quick question to this group...

Apparently there are some changes to the EU VAT legislation with regards to E-commerce
or web shops.

From the 1st of July, when you operate an e-commerce business with generated
income of over 10.000€, you will need to charge the VAT rate of the country of
which you are selling to.

Eg. I sell over 10K€ per year. If I sell (based in Belgium) to France, I will
need to apply the French VAT rate on my order instead of the Belgian VAT rate.

Selling platforms like E-bay, Amazon, Bol.com and therefor in my opinion, BL
as well, will need to enable this way of invoicing.

Do any of you guys or girls know more about this?

I am including a link, if this is allowed?
https://business.trustedshops.nl/blog/btw-in-e-commerce
https://www.emerce.nl/achtergrond/nieuwe-btwregels-ecommerce-actiepunten-ondernemers

Kind regards,

Nick

Thanks for the headsup, didn't hear about this before. Will be interesting
to see how Bricklink is going to handle this one and if they manage to get it
done before July. It's also gonna require some work from the sellers to get
their administration organised per country.

For independent webshops this is going to be near impossible to implement in
the way it was intended - typically products just have a listing price and the
administration is calculated afterwards. The easiest way to accommodate the new
system, then, would be to simply count a higher ex-VAT price on the invoice for
countries with a lower VAT percentage, so that the listed prices remain constant.
Bottomline, nothing really changes, just more hassle for businesses, dealing
with dozens of figures instead of just one EU figure. No idea what they're
trying to gain with this.

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