Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | infinibrix  | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 15:42 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, randyf writes:
Okay thanks but back to Jennifers point it might work well if you already know
what minifigure you have in your hand but if you don't know the name of the
character your looking at it may have been a reliable means of searching for
minifgs using these kinds of search options but I get it people(as well as myself)
ar'nt keen with the awkward looking description titles so I won't push
it any further 
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, popsicle writes:
| | In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | Just an idea I’m putting out there for future consideration because with colour
abbreviations it can give you useful options for catalog use/navigation!
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It's a strong idea that's getting some push back. How about...
For color descriptors within the title, just using the color itself
as a small box next to the part within the description, as in the Color Guide?
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And then people will have to hover over the patch to know the name of the colour
because the colours are undistinguishable unless they are side to side and named?
Not very practical, I fear.
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Yeah Popssicle its a terrible idea and almost as bad as the OPs suggestion 
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, DeLuca writes:
| | In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | The only abbreviations I have ever tried to use for colors are LBG and DBG and
then only when pressed for character space. Abbreviations are often difficult
to read and add to visual clutter. I am not sure why the entire minifig's
inventory would need to be listed in its name when that information is already
searchable? Sorry, I am very not onboard with this suggestion. I did a search
for 'spider-man' limited to minifigs and got 24 results. I can clearly
see all of them on one page of thumbnails and can quickly scan for the differences.
That's good enough for me!
Jen
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Well part of the reason for giving this idea some thought is because minifgs
will apparently need to have their own unique description and cannot rely on
using vague terms like Spider-man 1
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I do agree that this is a bad title, but this is an example of the more general
issues with many current figure titles, and of the need for improved standards
(which are currently being developed) - Something like “Spider-Man - Silver Web
and Eyes Pattern, Blue Arms and Legs” would be sufficient, and would not
lengthen and clog up names with unnecessary colour-abbreviations.
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unless those colour abreviations could be used to search but hidden from view
in descriptions because I agree they do look messy
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 13:36 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | The only abbreviations I have ever tried to use for colors are LBG and DBG and
then only when pressed for character space. Abbreviations are often difficult
to read and add to visual clutter. I am not sure why the entire minifig's
inventory would need to be listed in its name when that information is already
searchable? Sorry, I am very not onboard with this suggestion. I did a search
for 'spider-man' limited to minifigs and got 24 results. I can clearly
see all of them on one page of thumbnails and can quickly scan for the differences.
That's good enough for me!
Jen
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Well part of the reason for giving this idea some thought is because minifgs
will apparently need to have their own unique description and cannot rely on
using vague terms like Spider-man 1
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Just to add how are you getting just 24 Spider-mans on one page as when I search
Spider-man I get 139 results which includes everything from Aunt May to all Spider-mans
nemisis
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | The only abbreviations I have ever tried to use for colors are LBG and DBG and
then only when pressed for character space. Abbreviations are often difficult
to read and add to visual clutter. I am not sure why the entire minifig's
inventory would need to be listed in its name when that information is already
searchable? Sorry, I am very not onboard with this suggestion. I did a search
for 'spider-man' limited to minifigs and got 24 results. I can clearly
see all of them on one page of thumbnails and can quickly scan for the differences.
That's good enough for me!
Jen
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Well part of the reason for giving this idea some thought is because minifgs
will apparently need to have their own unique description and cannot rely on
using vague terms like Spider-man 1
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 12:47 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | Just an idea I’m putting out there for future consideration because with colour
abbreviations it can give you useful options for catalog use/navigation!
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Using tags would bring the same searchability advantages without cluttering the
descriptions with incomprehensible jargon terms.
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So what is incomprehensible about ... ? 
Bear Costume Guy - Minifigure only Entry - Torso-WHT (Heart and Rainbow), Headgear-CRL
(Mask Bear/Panda), Head-YEL, Left Arm-BLO, Right Arm-CRL, Left Hand-DAZ, Right
Hand-BLO, Hips-CRL, Left Leg-MAZ, Right Leg-BLO.
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You'd probably only bother to reference a complex minifig like this:-
Bear Custume Guy - Torso-WHT (Heart and Rainbow), Headgear-CRL (Mask Bear Panda),
Head-YEL (DS)
Besides most people will already find quite easily with key searches for Bear,
Coral, Rainbow
However with other minifigs where you have lots of Han Solos for instance you
could simply search 'Han Hair-LBG' and that alone will only bring up
these two minifigs:-
and thats where it really helps to find things
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In truth you'd only need to start including colour references to arms and
things like that if your dealing with complex variations of minifigs such as
spider-man otherwise colour references for the 4 core minifig components would
be sufficients i.e Headgear or Hair, Head, Torso, Legs
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | Just an idea I’m putting out there for future consideration because with colour
abbreviations it can give you useful options for catalog use/navigation!
[…]
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Using tags would bring the same searchability advantages without cluttering the
descriptions with incomprehensible jargon terms.
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So what is incomprehensible about ... ?
Bear Costume Guy - Minifigure only Entry - Torso-WHT (Heart and Rainbow), Headgear-CRL
(Mask Bear/Panda), Head-YEL, Left Arm-BLO, Right Arm-CRL, Left Hand-DAZ, Right
Hand-BLO, Hips-CRL, Left Leg-MAZ, Right Leg-BLO.
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You'd probably only bother to reference a complex minifig like this:-
Bear Custume Guy - Torso-WHT (Heart and Rainbow), Headgear-CRL (Mask Bear Panda),
Head-YEL (DS)
Besides most people will already find quite easily with key searches for Bear,
Coral, Rainbow
However with other minifigs where you have lots of Han Solos for instance you
could simply search 'Han Hair-LBG' and that alone will only bring up
these two minifigs:-
and thats where it really helps to find things
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 07:33 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, infinibrix writes:
| | Just an idea I’m putting out there for future consideration because with colour
abbreviations it can give you useful options for catalog use/navigation!
[…]
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Using tags would bring the same searchability advantages without cluttering the
descriptions with incomprehensible jargon terms.
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Granted but I don't expect that will be coming anytime soon....
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2021 07:08 | | Subject: | Colour Abbreviations for Catalog Navigation? | | Viewed: | 205 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| Just an idea I’m putting out there for future consideration because with colour
abbreviations it can give you useful options for catalog use/navigation!
For starters I glanced at all the different colours and it didn’t appear to be
too difficult to give each colour a suitable 3 Letter abbreviation though it
goes without saying that a few colours may be forced to have a 4 letter abbreviation
but they will likely be just a very few obscure colours such as Very Light Bluish
Grey (VLBG) or Trans Light Bright Green (TLBG) but even if it became problematic
some colours may not even benefit as much from the need to have an abbreviation
compared to the more widely and commonly used colours
Either way here are just a few quick abbreviation examples:-
Black – BLK
White – WHT
Reddish Brown – RBR
Dark Brown – DBR
Light Bluish Grey – LBG
Dark Bluish Grey – DBG
Dark Grey – DGR
Red – RED
Blue – BLU
Dark Blue – DBL
Green – GRN
Olive Green – OGN
Tan – TAN
Dark Tan – DTN
Orange – ORG
Dark Orange – DOR
Yellow – YEL
It’s also worth mentioning that the idea would be to have these abbreviations
on display wherever we see colour descriptions which is pretty much anywhere
in the catalog and so if we had abbreviations like this I don’t think it would
take long for people to memorize them and put them to good use so that instead
of searching for ‘Dark Tan hair’ they can just search ‘DTN hair’ or instead of
‘Light Bluish Gray Helmets’ they can just search ‘LBG Helmets’. The other benefit
is that where space is limited in descriptions a Torso could contain ‘RBR Belt
Buckle’ instead of ‘Reddish Brown Belt Buckle’
However once you have colour abbreviations in places their uses can be extended
in other ways too for instance if they are combined with a minifigure part to
create a unique combined colour/part reference such as Legs-DBR (Dark Brown Legs)
or Torso-GRN (Green Torso) these combos can be exclusively used to narrow down
search results for minifigures in ways where you barely need to worry about trying
to guess or work out what keywords have been used and in some cases you won’t
even need to know the name of the character!
For Example if I start with this Henry Minifigure description in its most basic
form it would look something like this:-
Henry - Torso-RBR, Hair-DTN, Head-LNO, Legs-OGN
Granted it’s not the most visually pleasing of minifig descriptions and right
now you’re probably thinking it looks a confusing mess but translated it basically
reads ‘Reddish Brown Torso, Dark Tan Hair, Light Nougat Head and Olive Green
Legs
Now even before I add keywords to that description or even if it already had
keywords and I wasn’t sure what keywords to try? If I had that minifig in my
hand and I didn’t know the name of the character I will at least still be reassured
that with a simple search for some or all of those main minifig part colours
it will either bring up what I’m looking for or narrow it down considerably.
For example if I search for say both ‘Hair-DTN Legs-OGN’ that Henry minifig will
be the only minifigure match that comes up because it’s the only minifigure in
the catalog that currently includes both Dark Tan hair and Olive Green Legs.
Now even if I search for both ‘Hair-DTN Head-LNO’ I’m sure I will still only
get a very small page of matches and that’s before I’ve even attempted to narrow
down with character names Like Luke or Han or the colour/description of the torsos/legs
etc etc...
Essentially if minifigure descriptions were laid out in a format something like
this:-
Minifig Character/Type (*) - Torso/Arms-COLOUR (*), Hair/Headgear-COLOUR(*),
Head-COLOUR (*), Legs/Hips-COLOUR (*), (*Other Keywords)
where the (*) represents where keywords can be added for each core minifigure
component (as/when necessary) it would then mean a revised and more detailed
example of the Henry Minifigure might look something like this even though the
description may not need to be quite as detailed for helping to find this particular
minifig:-
Henry - Torso-RBR, Arms-WHT (Brown Waistcoat, White Tunic), Hair-DTN (Swept Back
Ponytail), Head-LNO (DS, Open Mouth Smile/Worried), Legs-OGN
Its worth mentioning that the ‘DS’ after head represents Double Sided Head (SS
= Single Sided) which would allow you to narrow down even further with just a
couple of extra letters added within search criteria
However one thing to also notice is that you can still search for specific colours
such as the ‘White’ print details found on legs or torsos such as the white tunic
without needing to worry about it bringing up core components in white as they
will only come up if you search ‘Arms-WHT’, Legs-WHT, Torso-WHT, Head-WHT, Hair-WHT
whereas searching for white alone would mean the colour can be set aside for
prints allowing you to be more specific with your overall minifig search results...
Here are a few more examples of how similar minifigs might look:-
Han Solo - Torso-WHT (Shirt), Hair-RBR, Head-LNO (SS, Smirk), Legs-RBR
Han Solo - Torso-WHT (Shirt), Hair-RBR (Wavy), Head-LNO (DS, Closed Eyes), Legs-DBR
Han Solo (Senior) - Torso-DBR (Jacket), Hair-LBG, Head-LNO (DS, Angry), Legs-BLK
(Printed Gunbelt)
Han Solo (Hoth) - Torso-DBL (Jacket), Headgear-DBL (Parka Hood), Head-LNO (SS,
Smirk), Hips-DBL, Legs-TAN (Printed Gunbelt)
Knight (Crusader Lion) - Torso-Red, Arms-BLU, Headgear-DGR (Neck Protector Helmet),
Head-YEL (SS), Hips-BLK, Legs-BLU
I appreciate in might not be to everyone’s liking but it does for the most part
seem to work and I’m pretty sure I could even use it to tackle all those samey
spider-man minifigs without having to worry too much about relying on vague (Web
Pattern) keywords and focusing more on the definitive colours of Torsos, legs,
hips, arms and definitive styles such as printed/legs arms etc…
But again just some ideas for another day perhaps?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2021 09:30 | | Subject: | Re: Image recognition feature | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, starbeanie writes:
Thanks I knew it was somewhere under racing minfigs but it seems its not a 'speed
racer' minifig but rather a 'Racer'
I think it needs the hair print added to description
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 8, 2021 09:14 | | Subject: | Re: Image recognition feature | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, axaday writes:
| | In Suggestions, Grosoleil writes:
| | It would be nice to have an image recognition feature for parts, especially minifigure
heads, there are so many!
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What color is that hair? I guessed dark tan, but didn't find anything.
It's a primitive light nougat head. That should make it easy to find if
it is real, but I'd need to know that hair color.
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When I first saw it I straight away thought it belonged to a Speed Racer minifig
or maybe vey old Harry Potter?
These have similar design style with the hair speaking of which it should be
coming up with a search for 'Light nougat head hair' as the hair is quite
a defining feature for that particular head but it did'nt come up when I
searched
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 13:05 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | Is "Figure" the best keyword?
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No idea. We use "Minifigure" 8,567 times and "Figure" 1,843 times. There's
no standardization of the terms.
I suppose we could change them all to "Figure/Minifigure" to catch both types
of searches. That's only 10,410 catalog changes.
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Since all the other minifigure parts are currently described as minifigure I
would do the same for the slopes too as they after all very much minifigure parts!
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 12:39 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In which case 'Slope, Minifigure' would be better?
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First you must consider how best to accomplish your goal. You want to tag all
the Slope 45 2 x 2 parts that are used as the bottom halves of figures with a
unique identifier to make them easier to locate.
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Yes but that is why I put all these questions to you in the first place as you
originally just sent me a link to go about submitting a request myself even though
its now clearer to me that you were'nt fully onboard with my approach? my
point being, your the catalog expert therefore why not just give me your own
input/thoughts if you feel it should be done differently otherwise I'm just
submitting a request thats is going to go full circle and end up rejected anyway
or was that the intention?
| | Is the word "Minifigure" the most appropriate term to use here? It is already
used for 8,567 items in the catalog. I doubt anyone would use that word when
searching for these particular slopes, but I suppose they might?
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Well they certainly won't use that word now because they already know Minifigure
is not included in any of the sloped leg descriptions however once they know
it is they will then be confident with using that term to search?
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The word "Legs" is used 5,679 times. Oddly, in combination ("Minifigure Legs")
we only find 42 uses. Regardless, it might be worth considering the best search
terms to use for your endeavor.
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There is a big difference though as to find Legs you only need to search for
'Legs' but because there are countless other slopes you cannot just rely
on the word 'slopes' meaning you have to rely on another key word combination
be that 'Slope Legs' or 'Slope Minifigure' or if we can guarantee
the words Dress, Robes and Skirt will all be used on every sloped legs then that
would perhaps be sufficient enough?
People only need a guarantee certain words are included in order to feel confident
about being able to rely on them in their search criteria and so I'm not
so fussy about the word used but I just thought minifigure defines them all as
they are all Minifigure slopes whereas they are not all Skirts, they are not
all robes and they are not all dresses hence this makes it feel like an unreliable
search term for people to depend on?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 10:02 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
In which case 'Slope, Minifigure' would be better?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 09:59 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | Does that mean I have to submit a separate request for each and every Sloped
Legs?
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Yes, it does mean that.
| | or can I just submit one part as an example of how they all need to be changed?
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Start with one request to show us what you have in mind. We'll contact you
if it can't be approved. If it is approved, you're cleared to request
updates to the rest of the items you'd like to change.
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Yes that was my issue as I don't mind going to the trouble of finding them
all and submitting the requests but I'd rather not spend a lot of time only
to find they all get rejected!
Therefore starting with this as an example:-
* | | 3678bpb027 Slope 65 2 x 2 x 2 with Bottom Tube with Minifigure Dress / Skirt / Robe, White Panel with Black and Gold Trim Pattern
Parts: Slope, Decorated |
My request would simply be to put the word 'Minifigure' in front of the
word Slope and that is how I will request it unless you feel the word 'Minifigure'
would be better placed further along in the description?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 09:45 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | would it be possible to add the word 'Minifigure' within the description
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If you'd like to see titles of individual items changed, you may request
those with this form:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReq.asp
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Does that mean I have to submit a separate request for each and every Sloped
Legs?
or can I just submit one part as an example of how they all need to be changed?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 07:48 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | We have 915 items potentially moving this time (up from 540 items last October),
but we still didn't make it to these suggestions from the February, 2021
discussion:
randyf
Friends category
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What is the reason for not being able to get to this? It was brought up in very
fine detail in October last year and was brought up again this time. So between
when I first proposed everything and when it may eventually get implemented come
this October, that is one full year. I thought you were the one who wants to
solve issues instead of to keep putting them off? Or is that not the case anymore?
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Just speculating but I have a feeling it may have something to do with how these
changes might then affect how we treat other things like Mini doll Hair?
Those friends accessories certainly have uses for all figures and there already
seem to be crossovers with traditional minifigures using these accessories such
as the bow in the hair here:-
which means it also uses the Friends style of hair too and likewise its used
again here-
The question I therefore have is at what point is hair considered standard hair
or Mini doll hair?
This Dana minifig uses standard hair:-
or does it?
Is it therefore declared as a certain style of hair by how its first released
or by the fact that its rubbery or does it simply come down to the fact that
it comes with a hole in the top?
In which case what does that mean for other traditional hair types like this
rubbery one?:-
or this traditional one with a hole?:-
It may in the end be simpler to merge them all just to keep some clarity however
at the same time many of those friends hair seem out of place on most traditional
minifigs likewise those friends utensils seem a little bit brightly coloured
when it comes to considering them for use with traditional minifigs so I see
both sides and am a bit of the fence with this one?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 2, 2021 06:30 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two - UPDATE | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | decorated slopes used as legs - these should remain decorated slopes
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Okay but if minifig slopes are to remain with the rest of the decorated slopes
would it be possible to add the word 'Minifigure' within the description
so that people are able to bring them all up with just a search for 'Minifigure
Slope' so they can exclude all the irrelevant slopes?
Currently searching for Dress, Robe, Skirt is never a guaranteed way to find
them all as they are all tagged with different key words
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 15:41 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I don't think can be a weapon handle.
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But my suggestions is for it to go under a new category called 'Bar Holders/Hilts'
which does'nt just mean weapon handles it means anything designed to hold
a bar which includes items like these:-
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 08:18 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
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I think I might have agreed with you with just leaving the Dooku/Inquisitor hilts
under weapons and moving the others as there is no question that those standard
hilts have many more uses than just for minifig lightsabers especially as they
now come in so many more different colours however the problem I have is that
I very much see the standard metalic silver hilts as weapons and I feel others
will expect to find them under weapons too therefore I don't think hiding
them away under bars would be an option.
The only way it would work for me is if all those bar holder parts were under
a new category called something like bar holders/Weapon hilts after all most
of these are also commonly used as weapon handles/components:-
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Also here's another one under chain?
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Additionaly when you Look at the Bars category:-
https://www.bricklink.com/myImg/654346.jpg
I think part of the problem is that there is no clear definition as to what should
be included under bars therefore I would propose the following....
Rename Bars category to 'Bar Attachments' or 'Bar Shafts' where
items must include a distinct shaft pole for inserting into other parts just
as these parts do:-
* | | 48729b Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw - Cut Edges and Hole on Side
Parts: Bar |
* | | 58176 Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
Parts: Bar |
Then I would suggest creating a new category calling it something like 'Bar
Holders/Hilts' for connector pieces and things like weapon handles:-
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
This would then invalidate all those grills, frames and barricade parts that
are also found under bars but it has already been suggested that they should
be moved further up the thread here:-
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1255674
That proably then just leaves a few miscellaneous oddities like this:-
* | | 30359a Bar 1 x 8 with Brick 1 x 2 Curved Top End (Original, No Axle Holder)
Parts: Bar |
Which although it contains a bar holder at one end is too much of a varied part
to warrant being cataloged under bar holders. Speaking of which rather than trying
to find a home for every single part would it not be better to have a 'Miscellaneous'
parts category as that would be the first place I would look for something like
this? I understand it will end up becoming a bit of a dumping ground for anything
and everything but parts like this are always going to be hard to find anyway
no matter how you try to category them. Besides this category could also be a
kind of temporary location for newer oddity parts allowing for more time to carefully
think about the best place to put them plus as the items start to build up in
this category it may allow for similar items to become more apparent allowing
them to eventually be calaloged together elsewhere?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 04:08 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
| | is a super specific mold that has not been found anywhere except Count Dooku's hands.
is so far always a lightsaber.
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You are right about these two, since they were designed to replicate specific
lightsabers (Count Dooku's and the Inquisitors', respectively) - The
only reason that I want them in the "Bar" category is because of the consistency-of-placement
issue, but I would accept them staying in the "Weapon" category until they are
reused for something else. 😕
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I think I might have agreed with you with just leaving the Dooku/Inquisitor hilts
under weapons and moving the others as there is no question that those standard
hilts have many more uses than just for minifig lightsabers especially as they
now come in so many more different colours however the problem I have is that
I very much see the standard metalic silver hilts as weapons and I feel others
will expect to find them under weapons too therefore I don't think hiding
them away under bars would be an option.
The only way it would work for me is if all those bar holder parts were under
a new category called something like bar holders/Weapon hilts after all most
of these are also commonly used as weapon handles/components:-
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Also here's another one under chain?
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2021 19:36 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, Ber_i writes:
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Please move:
to "Ladder & Bridge".
Please move:
to "fence".
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I am going to vote against moving any of these bar parts. Just because something
can be used as a fence or a railing, doesn't mean it should end up there.
(4083 and 6187 are used more often on vehicles than fences in my opinion.) Moving
6020 and 30095 would separate them from other very similar parts like 62113 which
could also be used a fence or a ladder I guess.
Anyway, these parts are all comprised mostly of bars and should stay put.
Thanks!
Jen
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I disagree I find it quite bewildering to find these under bar? As I do for many
of the other items found under bar which also probably require a new home?
A bar to me is for the most part a long pole shaped object. Bars that are combined
to create more of a grill, frame or railing should be treated as such
For instance items like this:-
* | | 35366 Bar 2 1/4 x 5 1/4 Double Squares (BrickHeadz Glasses Square)
Parts: Bar |
I think some need to be classified as Grills/Frames and others as Railing/Barricade/Fences
or whatever category names suit best
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also move from bar to minifigure utencil
* | | 6190 Bar 1 x 3 with 2 Stud Receptacles (Radio Handle / Telephone Handset)
Parts: Bar |
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2021 19:26 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | In Catalog, Ber_i writes:
| |
Please move:
to "Ladder & Bridge".
Please move:
to "fence".
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I am going to vote against moving any of these bar parts. Just because something
can be used as a fence or a railing, doesn't mean it should end up there.
(4083 and 6187 are used more often on vehicles than fences in my opinion.) Moving
6020 and 30095 would separate them from other very similar parts like 62113 which
could also be used a fence or a ladder I guess.
Anyway, these parts are all comprised mostly of bars and should stay put.
Thanks!
Jen
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I disagree I find it quite bewildering to find these under bar? As I do for many
of the other items found under bar which also probably require a new home?
A bar to me is for the most part a long pole shaped object. Bars that are combined
to create more of a grill, frame or railing should be treated as such
For instance items like this:-
* | | 35366 Bar 2 1/4 x 5 1/4 Double Squares (BrickHeadz Glasses Square)
Parts: Bar |
I think some need to be classified as Grills/Frames and others as Railing/Barricade/Fences
or whatever category names suit best
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2021 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Parts (64567), (66909), (61199), and (x156) from "Minifigure, Weapon" to "Bar".
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I understand where your coming from and maybe it might work for just the standard
hilts but those curved ones are very much for weapon use and since they ideally
need to be in the same location I'm torn between puting them under weapons
or bars though bars seems like the wrong description?
At the same time I do actually think these should also be located in the same
location as the hilts:-
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
So perhaps it just requires a new category 'Bar Holders' or 'Bar
Connectors' or if the hilts go under bars I think some re-wording of the
category would be required such as 'Bars & Bar Holders'
I accept there are bricks that have holes to hold bars but they are still primarily
bricks whereas parts like these are primarily intended to hold bars:-
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| Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Feb 26, 2021 10:06 | | Subject: | Re: grey vs bluish grey (help!) | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, peregrinator writes:
| | I don't think that light gray is intermediate between light bluish gray and
dark bluish gray though. It's different but not *that* different (and it's
not always easy to tell the difference between them). I don't know that there
is a color that is really in between the two, aside from a few parts that might
be described as "medium gray" or "medium bluish gray".
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Yeah if you look at the current two bluish grey colours they are so significantly
far apart from each other that I am surprised Lego have'nt released a shade
between the two though I expect that will one day come as shades of grey are
extremely popular for both space and castle as well as many other builds
Strangely they seem to have poked around with too many very light greys for some
reason when you consider we've had Light Grey, Light Bluish Grey and Very
Light Bluish Grey
But in answer to the OP I think sellers on sites like ebay assume most buyers
ar'nt fully aware of Lego colour names let alone Bricklinks and so I for
one just call them Light and Dark grey on ebay as this is the best colour representation.
If I start calling them Bluish Grey I think most people would think I'm refering
to a colour closer to Sand Blue than that of a shade of grey
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