Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | yorbrick  | | Posted: | Mar 3, 2021 08:15 | | Subject: | Re: Two colors chains? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, maxx3001 writes:
| | I have this torso
Most are golden like in the picture, but a few are more reddish gold.
Is this a normal variation?
Thanks,
Maxx
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Yes, I think so. I have some that are almost a copper colour.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 12:03 | | Subject: | Re: Misleading product images | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, Emporiosa writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | The beatbox contents images are misleading.
and so on.
These sets contain 16 tiles, 14 of which are random. Shouldn't the random
ones have been blurred out so as not to mislead buyers.
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As they're official LEGO images, I don't think it's inappropriate
to use them (and is similar to what is shown on DOTS as there is some randomness
there too), but we should definitely have a note on all VIDIYO Bandmates and
Beat Boxes stating that there are the 1/2 exclusive tiles, and all others are
random. Without the warning we will definitely have issues with buyers not understanding
why it doesn't match.
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The ones that are random could be blurred once the submitter has checked inventory
to avoid confusion. One of the things often said here is you get what is in the
image. That is no longer the case.
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We do not change official LEGO images that are used to show the sets. The set
inventories will contain information about the randomness of the tiles.
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OK, as long as there is some way of doing it to avoid complaints.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 08:31 | | Subject: | Re: Misleading product images | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Emporiosa writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | The beatbox contents images are misleading.
and so on.
These sets contain 16 tiles, 14 of which are random. Shouldn't the random
ones have been blurred out so as not to mislead buyers.
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As they're official LEGO images, I don't think it's inappropriate
to use them (and is similar to what is shown on DOTS as there is some randomness
there too), but we should definitely have a note on all VIDIYO Bandmates and
Beat Boxes stating that there are the 1/2 exclusive tiles, and all others are
random. Without the warning we will definitely have issues with buyers not understanding
why it doesn't match.
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The ones that are random could be blurred once the submitter has checked inventory
to avoid confusion. One of the things often said here is you get what is in the
image. That is no longer the case.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 08:12 | | Subject: | Misleading product images | | Viewed: | 149 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| The beatbox contents images are misleading.
and so on.
These sets contain 16 tiles, 14 of which are random. Shouldn't the random
ones have been blurred out so as not to mislead buyers.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 1, 2021 05:17 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | How so? The "Bar" category includes pieces such as Part (48729b), Part (32828),
Part (92690), Part (58176), as well as bar-based elements such as Parts (4083)
and (6020), so Part (36017) would fit in easily as something like "Bar 1L with
Top Stud and Dragon Head".
* | | 48729b Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw - Cut Edges and Hole on Side
Parts: Bar |
* | | 32828 Bar 1L with 1 x 1 Round Plate with Hollow Stud
Parts: Bar |
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
* | | 58176 Bar with Light Bulb Cover (Bionicle Barraki Eye)
Parts: Bar |
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So the phone should remain a bar too, as that has a small section of bar and
is used for other things than a minifigure utensil.
These are very rarely used as propellers
perhaps they should also be in the bar section, as they have a bar component.
They are commonly used as large figure weapons and wings, so are in a similar
situation as lightsaber hilts when it comes to multiple uses.
If and wherever all these items are moved to, it will mean that for everyone
that can now find them quicker, it takes others much longer to find them. It
seems the catalogue is almost being re-written with many pieces subject to changes.
I hope all sellers (and buyers) are informed and not just through the forum before
any wholesale changes are made.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2021 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I guess the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a weapon when it is lit?
No. A lightsaber is always a weapon. A handgun is always a weapon, even when
it isn’t loaded.
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In that case, Prime Empire Red Visors have lightsaber-bayonets:
As do A.I.M. soldiers (Which makes sense, considering 1.) they are A.I.M., and
2.) they need to compete with S.H.I.E.L.D.'s shotgun-axe technology):
LEGO City Police use lightsabers disguised as flashlights (which explains their
lack of guns (except for that one time)):
This is canon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jK4XnaAQQ
Rey actually had her lightsaber built into her staff all along:
Firefighters have an entire rack of lightsabers (for job-security purposes?):
The Ninja use them all the time - As torches:
Built into spears:
Cole has two built into the cockpit of his mech:
Lloyd has one hidden in the bumper of his car (And Nya has another in her trident!):
In seriousness, though, the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a lightsaber
when it is being used as a lightsaber. Part (64567) has been used in many
other (often non-weapon and non-lightsaber) assemblies as a bar/connector, so
categorising it as a "Minifigure, Weapon" both only acknowledges one possible
use for the part, as well as making the part more difficult to find (since most
would search for it as a bar - particularly considering the fact that Part (92690)
is considered a "Bar", despite its numerous uses in weapon-assemblies). Conversely,
guns are almost never used as anything but guns (Set (76157) is the only
example that I can think of wherein guns are used in a non-weapon assembly),
so leaving them in "Minifigure, Weapon" makes sense.
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Additionally, Part (66909) is very debatably a weapon, since (at least until
Maul inevitably uses it for his lightsaber) its only use as a weapon has been
as the ends of a staff - It is more often used for flagpoles/railings/other non-weapon
features within the same theme. As such, it should be classified a "Bar", similarly
to Part (92690).
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Moreover, the "a part that can be a weapon always is a weapon"
reasoning could be extended to Part (60849), since it has more often been used
to represent a gun than it has a "Hose Nozzle":
That said, I do not think that Part (60849) should be in the "Minifigure, Weapon"
category, since it has also been used in countless other non-weapon assemblies
(I actually think that it should also be moved to the "Bar" category, as well).
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Parts (64567), (66909), (61199), and (x156) from "Minifigure, Weapon" to "Bar".
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I understand where your coming from and maybe it might work for just the standard hilts but those curved ones are very much for weapon use and since they ideally need to be in the same location I'm torn between puting them under weapons or bars though bars seems like the wrong description?
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The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.
| | At the same time I do actually think these should also be located in the same location as the hilts:-
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Good point - Part (64644) should be moved from "Minifigure, Utensil" to "Bar".
| | So perhaps it just requires a new category 'Bar Holders' or 'Bar Connectors' or if the hilts go under bars I think some re-wording of the category would be required such as 'Bars & Bar Holders'
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I am not sure that an entirely new category is needed, since pieces like Part
(64567) are simultaneously Bars and Bar-Holders, though I would support renaming
the "Bar" category to something like "Bar & Connector".
Agreed - Part (18673) and Part (36017) should be moved from "Minifigure, Weapon"
to "Bar".
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This reads like an argument that
should definitely not be in food, as it has other uses such as dog poop. It only becomes food when put on an ice cream or cake or similar. Otherwise it is just a 1x1 round plate or tile that has been modified with multiple uses. Same with
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The difference is that while there is an obvious alternative category for Part
(64567), et al, there is not one for Parts (53119) and (15470). As they
are neither Plates (as they do not have a stud on the top) nor Tiles (as they
do not have flat tops), they do not belong in either category. The "Food & Drink"
category is where Part (6254) is (despite its having been used for non-food items
such as smoke), which is similar to the parts in-question in that it has no obvious
alternative category.
Now that I think of it, these pieces would actually fit into the new "Cone &
Dome" category, since they are such, respectively (albeit with a swirl/grooved
pattern). This would still leave Part (6254) in "Food & Drink", though. 😕
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Those parts are just as much a (modified) round plate as a dragon's head
hilt is a bar.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2021 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I guess the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a weapon when it is lit?
No. A lightsaber is always a weapon. A handgun is always a weapon, even when
it isn’t loaded.
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In that case, Prime Empire Red Visors have lightsaber-bayonets:
As do A.I.M. soldiers (Which makes sense, considering 1.) they are A.I.M., and
2.) they need to compete with S.H.I.E.L.D.'s shotgun-axe technology):
LEGO City Police use lightsabers disguised as flashlights (which explains their
lack of guns (except for that one time)):
This is canon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jK4XnaAQQ
Rey actually had her lightsaber built into her staff all along:
Firefighters have an entire rack of lightsabers (for job-security purposes?):
The Ninja use them all the time - As torches:
Built into spears:
Cole has two built into the cockpit of his mech:
Lloyd has one hidden in the bumper of his car (And Nya has another in her trident!):
In seriousness, though, the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a lightsaber
when it is being used as a lightsaber. Part (64567) has been used in many
other (often non-weapon and non-lightsaber) assemblies as a bar/connector, so
categorising it as a "Minifigure, Weapon" both only acknowledges one possible
use for the part, as well as making the part more difficult to find (since most
would search for it as a bar - particularly considering the fact that Part (92690)
is considered a "Bar", despite its numerous uses in weapon-assemblies). Conversely,
guns are almost never used as anything but guns (Set (76157) is the only
example that I can think of wherein guns are used in a non-weapon assembly),
so leaving them in "Minifigure, Weapon" makes sense.
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Additionally, Part (66909) is very debatably a weapon, since (at least until
Maul inevitably uses it for his lightsaber) its only use as a weapon has been
as the ends of a staff - It is more often used for flagpoles/railings/other non-weapon
features within the same theme. As such, it should be classified a "Bar", similarly
to Part (92690).
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Moreover, the "a part that can be a weapon always is a weapon"
reasoning could be extended to Part (60849), since it has more often been used
to represent a gun than it has a "Hose Nozzle":
That said, I do not think that Part (60849) should be in the "Minifigure, Weapon"
category, since it has also been used in countless other non-weapon assemblies
(I actually think that it should also be moved to the "Bar" category, as well).
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Parts (64567), (66909), (61199), and (x156) from "Minifigure, Weapon" to "Bar".
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I understand where your coming from and maybe it might work for just the standard hilts but those curved ones are very much for weapon use and since they ideally need to be in the same location I'm torn between puting them under weapons or bars though bars seems like the wrong description?
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The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.
| | At the same time I do actually think these should also be located in the same location as the hilts:-
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Good point - Part (64644) should be moved from "Minifigure, Utensil" to "Bar".
| | So perhaps it just requires a new category 'Bar Holders' or 'Bar Connectors' or if the hilts go under bars I think some re-wording of the category would be required such as 'Bars & Bar Holders'
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I am not sure that an entirely new category is needed, since pieces like Part
(64567) are simultaneously Bars and Bar-Holders, though I would support renaming
the "Bar" category to something like "Bar & Connector".
Agreed - Part (18673) and Part (36017) should be moved from "Minifigure, Weapon"
to "Bar".
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This reads like an argument that
should definitely not be in food, as it has other uses such as dog poop. It only
becomes food when put on an ice cream or cake or similar. Otherwise it is just
a 1x1 round plate or tile that has been modified with multiple uses. Same with
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2021 16:52 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.
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So where will axe heads and some sword blades go, as they are also not weapons
by themselves, just used to build weapons.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2021 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Parts (15470) and (53119) from "Plate, Round" to "Food and Drink".
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Bon appetit 
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There are not really any other categories where these parts would fit,
though. 😕
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They fit perfectly well in plate, round. If these are moving, presumably the
flowers will also move to plants, and other similar shaped parts will also get
moved out. This may well make things harder to find, as you'd have to look
through multiple categories to find things if you don't know what they are.
Whereas keeping parts based on round plates in the plates, round category means
if you know the shape then you can easily browse all parts with that shape.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2021 10:12 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | What does base and thickness mean here?
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You bring up good points. There hasn't been a clear line drawn in the past
between what is a Brick, Modified vs. Plate, Modified. That line could be drawn
as follows:
1. Everything not as tall as a full brick is a modified plate.
2. Everything taller than one plate is a modified brick.
3. Everything between brick and plate goes in a separate in-between category.
The in-between items aren't actually bricks or plates. I went with
number 2 when writing category definitions rather than trying to create entirely
new categories for these items, but the same basic arguments could be made for
going with number 1 instead.
I'll attempt to modify the definitions (including possibly going with number
1 instead) to make a little more sense out of the whole thing.
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This was a part I couldn't recall/find earlier.
If this wasn't technic but a regular plate with regular bricks on the sides,
when considering the base of the part, is it a plate with bricks added on,
or a 1 1/3 high brick with a large hole cut out of it. I guess it is one of those
"depends" answers, like is an in-between jumper style part a plate with studs
removed or a tile with studs added.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2021 05:06 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| What does base and thickness mean here?
1. No parts with a base thicker than a standard plate.
Isn't part of that base thicker than a standard plate, as part of it (directly
above the base) is two tiles high. Or is it a plate high base with something
extra on top?
This is a bit further, are these are a plate thickness base, with another plate
on top:
And then if it covers the whole base, so this:
Is that still a plate high base with something on top, or is the whole thing
a two plates high base? And then presumably a short brick rather than a tall
plate.
I'm wondering what would happen in the hypothetical situation that LEGO created
a whole series of parts that were, for example, a 2x8 plate with a 1x1 plate
on top, the next with 2 1x1 plates on top (whether side by side or separate),
then 3 ..., then 15, then 16.
Are they all modified plates, or are 1-15 modified plates and once the sixteenth
one goes on top and covers the whole base it becomes a 2x8x2/3 brick.
Or to put it in another way, what is the base of these parts?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2021 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: Wheel? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Was searching my train department upside down for this part...
[P=c]
But I see it is in "Wheel"... is this a mistake? Since, well, it clearly is not
a wheel 
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* | | 38339c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
Parts: Wheel |
The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:
* | | 2878c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
Parts: Wheel |
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: white horse bridle dark orange or brown?? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
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| In Colors, BellaFux writes:
| | Hi there,
I am currently separating different horse types from each other - there are a
few hundred of them here with me.
I found my way through all the colours and types until the simple white horse
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here on BL it has 4493c01pb04 - white horse with Black Eyes, White Pupils
and DARK ORANGE bridle Pattern .
On brick owl the same Item number says "white horse blabla eyes and BROWN
bridle. (the picture looks very much like dark orange)
I have a lot of them, and some sure look brown, some sure dark orange (I dont
think it is just faded)
but there seems to be no distinction in the item number...
if I want to sell them - do I put both under the same item number???
thanks a lot for your help!!
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It is printed, so it is neither of them. Some examples are close to one of the
colours, other examples closer to the other. And many somewhere in between. If
you have any that are far from the named colour, I'd mention it so a buyer
knows what they are getting. Otherwise, ignore it, as there are often variations
in print density and hence colour.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:30 | | Subject: | Re: Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
| | Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
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Because it was decided that they are not figures ...
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1218528
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:15 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
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This has already been posted by BL staff in response to a US / non-UK seller
about VAT:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1245416
BrickLink is now a registered marketplace in the UK, meaning the burden of
the
VAT is on BrickLink, and not you as a seller. You can send whatever size of
order you like to the UK on BrickLink. Don't feel you need to limit orders
to 135 GBP and above.
From the wording, I would take it as the burden of the VAT calculation and collection
is on BL, not on individual sellers. Quite why this statement was made at that
time, I do not know, as it is clear that BL are not calculating or collecting
VAT for imports into the UK.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 04:17 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
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Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
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So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
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The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
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If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK) then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
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Yes, although some indication of when they will be doing something about it would
be useful. Are they waiting for the EU changes to come in before bothering with
the UK? Are they going to get the UK version up and running to test it works
before the EU changes come in? Are they going to do nothing about it and hope
everyone just gives up and the problem goes away? Nobody really knows anything.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 10:57 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
| | Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten
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Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.
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I think they already had websites with timezones in 2004..
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TLG had big plans with BrickLink but is choking now..
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BrickLink is busy with USA sales taxes, we really should not expect multitasking
in their attempts to break things. They did say they will address the Brexit
issues before 5 February (they did not say which aeon though).
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No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.
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As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to 
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Yes, true. UK hasn't got it on the track. EU does however. On the short term
EU draws the longest straw, more and more companies are moving away from UK in
favor of EU or elsewhere. That is a loss for the UK regrettably, but needles
to say UK wanted the Brexit no the EU. On the long run it is inconclusive if
this development is a good thing. Cooperation is imo the better road how complicated
it might be.
So maybe it is the best of worst to exclude UK for now. Until they got their
things together. But I give you this, it is very complicated.
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Things are together, at least at other websites. I've ordered non-lego parts
from aliexpress since the change from different sellers. VAT was charged and
all were clear on the declaration that VAT was paid. Similarly I've ordered
lego parts from Germany, via another online marketplace website, VAT paid there
too.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 06:29 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Stacey_Love writes:
| | In Suggestions, Stellar writes:
| | In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
| | Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten
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Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.
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I think they already had websites with timezones in 2004..
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TLG had big plans with BrickLink but is choking now..
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BrickLink is busy with USA sales taxes, we really should not expect multitasking
in their attempts to break things. They did say they will address the Brexit
issues before 5 February (they did not say which aeon though).
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No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.
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As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to
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I recently promised more details on our Brexit solution, but I will just be frank
with you, that what you have described is exactly the case. We are waiting to
hear from our tax professionals as to how we need to proceed, and they are waiting
to hear from the authorities. It feels as if we are actually further from a solution
at this point than we were at the beginning of the year.
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We have already pointed you links from the UK Gov website (authorities) explaining
things.
BL is still charging EU VAT in sales to UK, and that is without doubt illegal...
At least we sellers can disable it. But for sales under 135GBP B2C it is illegal
not to charge UK 20% VAT and remit it to UK HMRC.
Those are factually correct...
If the problem is if you are legally not sure if BL is an OMP or not, this maybe
needs a decision of just accepting it is a OMP even thought legally could be
defended is not (hypothetically).
Then decide to gather the UK VAT the same as US TAX, that would make BL a stronger
platform, because the other option means BL sellers will have to register by
themselves and most would not do it. This will mostly close the international
UK buying options.
And this would happen again and again as each country creates new laws to collect
VAT on buyers behalf. US and Norway since last year, UK since two months ago,
EU in four months from now...
Here is what other website puts on the invoices to UK if this helps:
20% UK Import VAT has been paid on this order via the online marketplace XXXXXXXXX
Ltd with VAT ID GBXXXXXXXXX. For more information see https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
You already have the development to take a % fee from a PayPal or Stripe payment,
this would work the same for now, even simpler because it would be a fixed VAT
rate depending of the buyer country.
But best would be if offsite payments would be accepted too, and in those cases
the % VAT owed to BL from the seller paid by IBAN transfer that has no fees for
most, we understand this can come at a later date.
Russell, sincerely, what I mean is just one question...
What are your tax professionals expecting to hear from the authorities that it
is not already explained in the UK GOV website?
Thanks
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I particularly like the uk.gov website regarding distance selling, this is there
advice."
The Brexit transition period has ended and new rules on distance selling now
apply. This page is currently out of date.
https://www.gov.uk/online-and-distance-selling-for-businesses
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That is because many other sites link to the gov.uk pages. So rather than just
have dead links, they tell you it is now out of date, so you know to look up
the correct information on the site.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 06:26 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Stacey_Love writes:
| | In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
| | Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten
|
Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.
|
I think they already had websites with timezones in 2004..
|
TLG had big plans with BrickLink but is choking now..
|
BrickLink is busy with USA sales taxes, we really should not expect multitasking
in their attempts to break things. They did say they will address the Brexit
issues before 5 February (they did not say which aeon though).
|
No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.
|
As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to
|
I recently promised more details on our Brexit solution, but I will just be frank
with you, that what you have described is exactly the case. We are waiting to
hear from our tax professionals as to how we need to proceed, and they are waiting
to hear from the authorities. It feels as if we are actually further from a solution
at this point than we were at the beginning of the year.
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And what are we supposed to do in the meantime ?. ......... Is the only option
to register for england vat, or exclude selling to england ?.
And can you fix the selling zones as england is defiantly not in the EU. Thanks.
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There is no such thing as England VAT. Similarly you cannot exclude just England.
There is UK VAT, and you can exclude UK.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 20, 2021 16:27 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mvfisker writes:
| | Just wondering.
Chose "European Union" as seller - and Great Britain sellers still came up. Shouldn't
that be changed now after Brexit?
Cheers, Morten
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Bricklink time is currently somewhere in about 2004.
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