Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | yorbrick  | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2021 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I guess the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a weapon when it is lit?
No. A lightsaber is always a weapon. A handgun is always a weapon, even when
it isn’t loaded.
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In that case, Prime Empire Red Visors have lightsaber-bayonets:
As do A.I.M. soldiers (Which makes sense, considering 1.) they are A.I.M., and
2.) they need to compete with S.H.I.E.L.D.'s shotgun-axe technology):
LEGO City Police use lightsabers disguised as flashlights (which explains their
lack of guns (except for that one time)):
This is canon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jK4XnaAQQ
Rey actually had her lightsaber built into her staff all along:
Firefighters have an entire rack of lightsabers (for job-security purposes?):
The Ninja use them all the time - As torches:
Built into spears:
Cole has two built into the cockpit of his mech:
Lloyd has one hidden in the bumper of his car (And Nya has another in her trident!):
In seriousness, though, the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a lightsaber
when it is being used as a lightsaber. Part (64567) has been used in many
other (often non-weapon and non-lightsaber) assemblies as a bar/connector, so
categorising it as a "Minifigure, Weapon" both only acknowledges one possible
use for the part, as well as making the part more difficult to find (since most
would search for it as a bar - particularly considering the fact that Part (92690)
is considered a "Bar", despite its numerous uses in weapon-assemblies). Conversely,
guns are almost never used as anything but guns (Set (76157) is the only
example that I can think of wherein guns are used in a non-weapon assembly),
so leaving them in "Minifigure, Weapon" makes sense.
* |  | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Additionally, Part (66909) is very debatably a weapon, since (at least until
Maul inevitably uses it for his lightsaber) its only use as a weapon has been
as the ends of a staff - It is more often used for flagpoles/railings/other non-weapon
features within the same theme. As such, it should be classified a "Bar", similarly
to Part (92690).
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Moreover, the "a part that can be a weapon always is a weapon"
reasoning could be extended to Part (60849), since it has more often been used
to represent a gun than it has a "Hose Nozzle":
That said, I do not think that Part (60849) should be in the "Minifigure, Weapon"
category, since it has also been used in countless other non-weapon assemblies
(I actually think that it should also be moved to the "Bar" category, as well).
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Parts (64567), (66909), (61199), and (x156) from "Minifigure, Weapon" to "Bar".
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I understand where your coming from and maybe it might work for just the standard hilts but those curved ones are very much for weapon use and since they ideally need to be in the same location I'm torn between puting them under weapons or bars though bars seems like the wrong description?
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The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.
| | At the same time I do actually think these should also be located in the same location as the hilts:-
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Good point - Part (64644) should be moved from "Minifigure, Utensil" to "Bar".
| | So perhaps it just requires a new category 'Bar Holders' or 'Bar Connectors' or if the hilts go under bars I think some re-wording of the category would be required such as 'Bars & Bar Holders'
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I am not sure that an entirely new category is needed, since pieces like Part
(64567) are simultaneously Bars and Bar-Holders, though I would support renaming
the "Bar" category to something like "Bar & Connector".
Agreed - Part (18673) and Part (36017) should be moved from "Minifigure, Weapon"
to "Bar".
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This reads like an argument that
should definitely not be in food, as it has other uses such as dog poop. It only becomes food when put on an ice cream or cake or similar. Otherwise it is just a 1x1 round plate or tile that has been modified with multiple uses. Same with
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The difference is that while there is an obvious alternative category for Part
(64567), et al, there is not one for Parts (53119) and (15470). As they
are neither Plates (as they do not have a stud on the top) nor Tiles (as they
do not have flat tops), they do not belong in either category. The "Food & Drink"
category is where Part (6254) is (despite its having been used for non-food items
such as smoke), which is similar to the parts in-question in that it has no obvious
alternative category.
Now that I think of it, these pieces would actually fit into the new "Cone &
Dome" category, since they are such, respectively (albeit with a swirl/grooved
pattern). This would still leave Part (6254) in "Food & Drink", though. 😕
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Those parts are just as much a (modified) round plate as a dragon's head
hilt is a bar.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2021 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | I guess the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a weapon when it is lit?
No. A lightsaber is always a weapon. A handgun is always a weapon, even when
it isn’t loaded.
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In that case, Prime Empire Red Visors have lightsaber-bayonets:
As do A.I.M. soldiers (Which makes sense, considering 1.) they are A.I.M., and
2.) they need to compete with S.H.I.E.L.D.'s shotgun-axe technology):
LEGO City Police use lightsabers disguised as flashlights (which explains their
lack of guns (except for that one time)):
This is canon: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5jK4XnaAQQ
Rey actually had her lightsaber built into her staff all along:
Firefighters have an entire rack of lightsabers (for job-security purposes?):
The Ninja use them all the time - As torches:
Built into spears:
Cole has two built into the cockpit of his mech:
Lloyd has one hidden in the bumper of his car (And Nya has another in her trident!):
In seriousness, though, the reasoning is that a lightsaber is only a lightsaber
when it is being used as a lightsaber. Part (64567) has been used in many
other (often non-weapon and non-lightsaber) assemblies as a bar/connector, so
categorising it as a "Minifigure, Weapon" both only acknowledges one possible
use for the part, as well as making the part more difficult to find (since most
would search for it as a bar - particularly considering the fact that Part (92690)
is considered a "Bar", despite its numerous uses in weapon-assemblies). Conversely,
guns are almost never used as anything but guns (Set (76157) is the only
example that I can think of wherein guns are used in a non-weapon assembly),
so leaving them in "Minifigure, Weapon" makes sense.
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Additionally, Part (66909) is very debatably a weapon, since (at least until
Maul inevitably uses it for his lightsaber) its only use as a weapon has been
as the ends of a staff - It is more often used for flagpoles/railings/other non-weapon
features within the same theme. As such, it should be classified a "Bar", similarly
to Part (92690).
* | | 92690 Bar 1L with Top Stud and 2 Side Studs (Connector Perpendicular)
Parts: Bar |
Moreover, the "a part that can be a weapon always is a weapon"
reasoning could be extended to Part (60849), since it has more often been used
to represent a gun than it has a "Hose Nozzle":
That said, I do not think that Part (60849) should be in the "Minifigure, Weapon"
category, since it has also been used in countless other non-weapon assemblies
(I actually think that it should also be moved to the "Bar" category, as well).
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Parts (64567), (66909), (61199), and (x156) from "Minifigure, Weapon" to "Bar".
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I understand where your coming from and maybe it might work for just the standard hilts but those curved ones are very much for weapon use and since they ideally need to be in the same location I'm torn between puting them under weapons or bars though bars seems like the wrong description?
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The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.
| | At the same time I do actually think these should also be located in the same location as the hilts:-
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Good point - Part (64644) should be moved from "Minifigure, Utensil" to "Bar".
| | So perhaps it just requires a new category 'Bar Holders' or 'Bar Connectors' or if the hilts go under bars I think some re-wording of the category would be required such as 'Bars & Bar Holders'
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I am not sure that an entirely new category is needed, since pieces like Part
(64567) are simultaneously Bars and Bar-Holders, though I would support renaming
the "Bar" category to something like "Bar & Connector".
Agreed - Part (18673) and Part (36017) should be moved from "Minifigure, Weapon"
to "Bar".
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This reads like an argument that
should definitely not be in food, as it has other uses such as dog poop. It only
becomes food when put on an ice cream or cake or similar. Otherwise it is just
a 1x1 round plate or tile that has been modified with multiple uses. Same with
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2021 16:52 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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The curved hilts are not weapons themselves, but attachment-points used
to build weapons. Moreover, for the sake of consistency and ease-of-searching,
they should be classified as bars, since that is what they resemble most.
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So where will axe heads and some sword blades go, as they are also not weapons
by themselves, just used to build weapons.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 27, 2021 14:20 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | In Catalog, DeLuca writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Okay, we're ready to hear what you want moved.
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Parts (15470) and (53119) from "Plate, Round" to "Food and Drink".
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Bon appetit 
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There are not really any other categories where these parts would fit,
though. 😕
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They fit perfectly well in plate, round. If these are moving, presumably the
flowers will also move to plants, and other similar shaped parts will also get
moved out. This may well make things harder to find, as you'd have to look
through multiple categories to find things if you don't know what they are.
Whereas keeping parts based on round plates in the plates, round category means
if you know the shape then you can easily browse all parts with that shape.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2021 10:12 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | What does base and thickness mean here?
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You bring up good points. There hasn't been a clear line drawn in the past
between what is a Brick, Modified vs. Plate, Modified. That line could be drawn
as follows:
1. Everything not as tall as a full brick is a modified plate.
2. Everything taller than one plate is a modified brick.
3. Everything between brick and plate goes in a separate in-between category.
The in-between items aren't actually bricks or plates. I went with
number 2 when writing category definitions rather than trying to create entirely
new categories for these items, but the same basic arguments could be made for
going with number 1 instead.
I'll attempt to modify the definitions (including possibly going with number
1 instead) to make a little more sense out of the whole thing.
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This was a part I couldn't recall/find earlier.
If this wasn't technic but a regular plate with regular bricks on the sides,
when considering the base of the part, is it a plate with bricks added on,
or a 1 1/3 high brick with a large hole cut out of it. I guess it is one of those
"depends" answers, like is an in-between jumper style part a plate with studs
removed or a tile with studs added.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 25, 2021 05:06 | | Subject: | Re: Category Changes, Part Two | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| What does base and thickness mean here?
1. No parts with a base thicker than a standard plate.
Isn't part of that base thicker than a standard plate, as part of it (directly
above the base) is two tiles high. Or is it a plate high base with something
extra on top?
This is a bit further, are these are a plate thickness base, with another plate
on top:
And then if it covers the whole base, so this:
Is that still a plate high base with something on top, or is the whole thing
a two plates high base? And then presumably a short brick rather than a tall
plate.
I'm wondering what would happen in the hypothetical situation that LEGO created
a whole series of parts that were, for example, a 2x8 plate with a 1x1 plate
on top, the next with 2 1x1 plates on top (whether side by side or separate),
then 3 ..., then 15, then 16.
Are they all modified plates, or are 1-15 modified plates and once the sixteenth
one goes on top and covers the whole base it becomes a 2x8x2/3 brick.
Or to put it in another way, what is the base of these parts?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 24, 2021 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: Wheel? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Was searching my train department upside down for this part...
[P=c]
But I see it is in "Wheel"... is this a mistake? Since, well, it clearly is not
a wheel 
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* | | 38339c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Pin Slots with 2 Black Train Wheel RC Train with Pins (38339 / 38340)
Parts: Wheel |
The same is true for another train wheel holder and assembly:
* | | 2878c01 (Inv) Train Wheel RC, Holder with Black Train Wheel Pair on Chrome Silver Metal Axle with Slots (2878 / 2879c01)
Parts: Wheel |
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: white horse bridle dark orange or brown?? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
| In Colors, BellaFux writes:
| | Hi there,
I am currently separating different horse types from each other - there are a
few hundred of them here with me.
I found my way through all the colours and types until the simple white horse
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here on BL it has 4493c01pb04 - white horse with Black Eyes, White Pupils
and DARK ORANGE bridle Pattern .
On brick owl the same Item number says "white horse blabla eyes and BROWN
bridle. (the picture looks very much like dark orange)
I have a lot of them, and some sure look brown, some sure dark orange (I dont
think it is just faded)
but there seems to be no distinction in the item number...
if I want to sell them - do I put both under the same item number???
thanks a lot for your help!!
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It is printed, so it is neither of them. Some examples are close to one of the
colours, other examples closer to the other. And many somewhere in between. If
you have any that are far from the named colour, I'd mention it so a buyer
knows what they are getting. Otherwise, ignore it, as there are often variations
in print density and hence colour.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:30 | | Subject: | Re: Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
| | Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
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Because it was decided that they are not figures ...
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1218528
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:15 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | | As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
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This has already been posted by BL staff in response to a US / non-UK seller
about VAT:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1245416
BrickLink is now a registered marketplace in the UK, meaning the burden of
the
VAT is on BrickLink, and not you as a seller. You can send whatever size of
order you like to the UK on BrickLink. Don't feel you need to limit orders
to 135 GBP and above.
From the wording, I would take it as the burden of the VAT calculation and collection
is on BL, not on individual sellers. Quite why this statement was made at that
time, I do not know, as it is clear that BL are not calculating or collecting
VAT for imports into the UK.
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