Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Admin_Russell  | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: Changing old minifig pics? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | There are many old minifig pics in the catalog. Made with 2010 digital cameras
or so.
So I wonder: does it make sense to update those old - and often not so very clear
- pictures with newer ones?
I understand that the first person who submits the picture receives the credit
for the picture, so this might be a sensitive area.
Today I scanned
with my Instabrick. With very minor modifications the result is the attached
picture.
Personally I think this is a better picture than the one currently in the catalog.
What do you think?
|
How true is the color of the tie in your photo?
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:39 | | Subject: | Changing old minifig pics? | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| There are many old minifig pics in the catalog. Made with 2010 digital cameras
or so.
So I wonder: does it make sense to update those old - and often not so very clear
- pictures with newer ones?
I understand that the first person who submits the picture receives the credit
for the picture, so this might be a sensitive area.
Today I scanned
with my Instabrick. With very minor modifications the result is the attached
picture.
Personally I think this is a better picture than the one currently in the catalog.
What do you think?
|
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | Hi all,
I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
After visiting a Lego certified store today I received the 40450 Amelia Earhart
tribute set, which will be available from February 22 until stocks last. As far
as I can tell, this set has not been submitted to the catalog and no pending
details are available.
Can I add this set to the catalog?
Thanks,
Steve
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| Author: | TBS | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:05 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | In Catalog, TBS writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | On the My Inventory page you can chech Items on my Wantlist between the Search
options on the right.
|
Checked for each option, but didn´t found it.
Please explain in more details. Thanks.
|
|
Thank you. Good you finally found this for me.  .
It´s a bit messy not choosing which WL, because of my special organizing, but
better than nothing.
(That´s because i have some Wanted Lists with stuff i already HAVE to get noticed
to SKIP it in a shop showing these.)
So i can make a new window on a 2nd screen, and deduct my quantities fom the
inventory.
THX, again.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 10:37 | | Subject: | Re: Set #21120 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, wjbarker writes:
| | Hi there,
Part #3070bpb085 is listed in Set #21120 as an Extra item, but is not listed
as a Regular Item. It is a regular item in the Instructions Entry, so it seems
like this should be a Regular item in the set.
Thanks for the amazing site!
|
The regular one is in the inventory in the minifig
|
| Author: | wjbarker | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 10:34 | | Subject: | Set #21120 | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi there,
Part #3070bpb085 is listed in Set #21120 as an Extra item, but is not listed
as a Regular Item. It is a regular item in the Instructions Entry, so it seems
like this should be a Regular item in the set.
Thanks for the amazing site!
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| Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
| | Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
|
They're not fun guys, like normal figs? 
|
| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:48 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8874-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Black 3665 Slope, Inverted 45 2 x 1 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 3 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black 3660 Slope, Inverted 45 2 x 2 {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 3 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Blue-Violet 4495a Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left {match ID 4 to 3}
* Change 1 Part Blue 4495a Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left (Alternate) {match ID 4 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
See additional instructions image.
Please add a note for the redesign, thanks.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:30 | | Subject: | Re: Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
| | Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
|
Because it was decided that they are not figures ...
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1218528
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| Author: | Iliketurtles1 | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:23 | | Subject: | Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:15 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | | As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
|
This has already been posted by BL staff in response to a US / non-UK seller
about VAT:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1245416
BrickLink is now a registered marketplace in the UK, meaning the burden of
the
VAT is on BrickLink, and not you as a seller. You can send whatever size of
order you like to the UK on BrickLink. Don't feel you need to limit orders
to 135 GBP and above.
From the wording, I would take it as the burden of the VAT calculation and collection
is on BL, not on individual sellers. Quite why this statement was made at that
time, I do not know, as it is clear that BL are not calculating or collecting
VAT for imports into the UK.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:32 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
...
Afternoon Bill
All is well here thank you, but all is obviously not well in the BL world (nothing
new there). Hope you and your family are safe.
| | Hi Jean trust you are keeping safe and well
I pretty much agree with all you are saying but even that leaves all kinds of
questions. How have they registered as an OMP or not - they haven't said
directly.
|
Actually, Russell said they registered as an OMP for UK VAT purposes, and I've
not seen anything to the contrary from BL's side.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1243028
and quote: "BrickLink is now officially registered as a marketplace with the
UK"
| | Russell has maintained in several threads and messages that the UK
will be treated differently to the EU. We will see about that.
|
|
BrickLink is an online marktplace by any definition I encountered, not just UK.
If the marketplace has an active role, which means not just bringing together
supply and demand, then it is a marketplace. And yes, BrickLink is very active:
supporting ordering, invoicing, stock maintainance, quotes, payment method supports,
etc. So, definitely an OMP. Regardless whether they have registered as such,
they will be deemed as such, and be liable as such.
| |
Could be, if the UK laws are different to the EU laws when it comes to this issue.
But even if so, they need to sort this UK issue at some point, because the EU
would be a fair bit more work.
|
Rules can and are different for different countries a/o states. As OMP this is
a huge burden on IT and administration.
The EU attempts to simplify rules and regulations, but these will take effect
only as of July 1, 2021. Even then, country-specific regulations are still possible.
| |
I'm starting to think actually that they are just normally registered and
trying to figure out a way to collect VAT on imports without becoming fully liable
for orders. It is a stated goal of BrickLinbk management to collect all taxes
on all orders, heaven help us. This is the only possible understanding I can
get from the mixed messages coming out, and if that is the case, I don't
know if a person must laugh or cry, because it would be so horribly stupid if
sellers had to stop shipping for two months to the UK because BrickLink cannot
determine what type of registration it has.
But until they do not make an announcement to whatever effect, I don't think
it wise to take chances and ship to the UK. I'm also too lazy to register
myself for VAT while I wait for them, and then deregister when they finally figure
out that they are sucking on the ring end of the rubber dummy.
| |
As for collecting vat on orders he has denied that on several occasions. Hard
to go back on that now and it would be worse than spaghetti code trying to sort
that out. UK sellers prices are inclusive of VAT otherwise the seller is writing
off 20^ off the top and that is not healthy. So major changes would have to be
put in place to create fairness and transparency in pricing.
As for xp it has now been around for several years and to be honest we have nothing
- the claims that it will sit alongside classic are just to keep stores happy
as no one wants to maintain 2 separate systems. XP, in ours, and many others
opinions will not succeed for the majority of parts stores - it might work for
sets and one time buyers but the concept is wrong and unless they go back to
the drawing board (and they are not known for doing that) it will kill the site,
in our opinion or at least change the dimensions.
Having said all that the crystal ball is very murky over this entire thing. Lack
of detailed communication and much speculation just creates 'fake news'
really and we have had enough of that.
They definitely need to work more closely with the 'stakeholders' which
we thought would happen when TLG took over, but Bricklink are a small element
of a very large corporation so how much weight they carry remains to be seen.
Anyway take care of yourself and family - get your jab when you can and in the
meantime keep safe
|
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:28 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| | Great, thank you! Is there a way to sort the results for a certain wanted list?
|
You can visit your store and get results for individual wanted lists that way,
but I don't think there's a way to do this from your Inventory page.
|
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:26 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
Good luck explaining that to the Belastingdienst...
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:23 | | Subject: | Re: 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:03 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Identification | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
| In Colors, SurplusParts writes:
| | So on my colour chart here, you have from top left down, old light grey, new
light grey, new dark grey and then old dark grey.
So what colour are the 2 4085a in the middle. They never were released in old
dark grey, but they dont really look old light grey.
I of course know there is colour variations across all colours but i have never
really seen this in the old greys before.
Not sure if i should sell them as light grey as they aren't really.
Any advice appreciated.
Douglas
|
This is a known variation of light gray for these clips.
See
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=261737&nID=1171994
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1208961
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| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:49 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, TBS writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| | Hello!
I know I can check a wanted list against what I currently have listed in my store,
but is there a way to do that same thing in my stores inventory?
Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
|
On the My Inventory page you can chech Items on my Wantlist between the Search
options on the right.
|
Checked for each option, but didn´t found it.
Please explain in more details. Thanks.
|
|
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:47 | | Subject: | Re: 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=S
In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | Hi all,
I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
After visiting a Lego certified store today I received the 40450 Amelia Earhart
tribute set, which will be available from February 22 until stocks last. As far
as I can tell, this set has not been submitted to the catalog and no pending
details are available.
Can I add this set to the catalog?
Thanks,
Steve
|
|
|
| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:47 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
...
Afternoon Bill
All is well here thank you, but all is obviously not well in the BL world (nothing
new there). Hope you and your family are safe.
| | Hi Jean trust you are keeping safe and well
I pretty much agree with all you are saying but even that leaves all kinds of
questions. How have they registered as an OMP or not - they haven't said
directly.
|
Actually, Russell said they registered as an OMP for UK VAT purposes, and I've
not seen anything to the contrary from BL's side.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1243028
and quote: "BrickLink is now officially registered as a marketplace with the
UK"
| | Russell has maintained in several threads and messages that the UK
will be treated differently to the EU. We will see about that.
|
Could be, if the UK laws are different to the EU laws when it comes to this issue.
But even if so, they need to sort this UK issue at some point, because the EU
would be a fair bit more work.
I'm starting to think actually that they are just normally registered and
trying to figure out a way to collect VAT on imports without becoming fully liable
for orders. It is a stated goal of BrickLinbk management to collect all taxes
on all orders, heaven help us. This is the only possible understanding I can
get from the mixed messages coming out, and if that is the case, I don't
know if a person must laugh or cry, because it would be so horribly stupid if
sellers had to stop shipping for two months to the UK because BrickLink cannot
determine what type of registration it has.
But until they do not make an announcement to whatever effect, I don't think
it wise to take chances and ship to the UK. I'm also too lazy to register
myself for VAT while I wait for them, and then deregister when they finally figure
out that they are sucking on the ring end of the rubber dummy.
| |
As for collecting vat on orders he has denied that on several occasions. Hard
to go back on that now and it would be worse than spaghetti code trying to sort
that out. UK sellers prices are inclusive of VAT otherwise the seller is writing
off 20^ off the top and that is not healthy. So major changes would have to be
put in place to create fairness and transparency in pricing.
As for xp it has now been around for several years and to be honest we have nothing
- the claims that it will sit alongside classic are just to keep stores happy
as no one wants to maintain 2 separate systems. XP, in ours, and many others
opinions will not succeed for the majority of parts stores - it might work for
sets and one time buyers but the concept is wrong and unless they go back to
the drawing board (and they are not known for doing that) it will kill the site,
in our opinion or at least change the dimensions.
Having said all that the crystal ball is very murky over this entire thing. Lack
of detailed communication and much speculation just creates 'fake news'
really and we have had enough of that.
They definitely need to work more closely with the 'stakeholders' which
we thought would happen when TLG took over, but Bricklink are a small element
of a very large corporation so how much weight they carry remains to be seen.
Anyway take care of yourself and family - get your jab when you can and in the
meantime keep safe
|
|
|
| Author: | platinum_lego | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:39 | | Subject: | 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 174 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi all,
I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
After visiting a Lego certified store today I received the 40450 Amelia Earhart
tribute set, which will be available from February 22 until stocks last. As far
as I can tell, this set has not been submitted to the catalog and no pending
details are available.
Can I add this set to the catalog?
Thanks,
Steve
|
|
| Author: | Ber_i | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:29 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Identification | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
| I think they are old light gray.
They are visible on the boxart of set 6801 (back of the craft).
|
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:15 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
|
...
| | | | | | | | The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK)
|
Hmm, no actually, irrespective of admin says, there is something called a law.
As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
If they jumped the gun and thought they are the same as an American marketplace
for sales tax purposes, then they should just say so and fix it. It does not
take months and years to fix either. Tax is after all a question of law and fact.
If you factually do not meet the requirements for a legal registration, then
you go change it until you meet what is required. This is not a tax issue, it
is not a tax expert issue, it is not an HMRC issue, it is not even a VAT issue.
It is a management issue which must be managed for the benefit for all stakeholders.
Here is what an online marketplace for UK VAT purposes is - note the requirements
must ALL be met, else the platform cannot collect VAT as a platform and can only
collect VAT on their own turnover.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
What is a marketplace?
"HMRC’s definition of an online marketplace is a business using a website
or mobile phone app (such as a marketplace, platform or portal) to handle the
sale of goods to customers which meets all of the following conditions:
in any way sets the terms and conditions on how goods are supplied to the
customer
is involved in any way in authorising or facilitating customers’ payments
is involved in the ordering or delivery of the goods
A business will not be classed as an online marketplace if it only provides one
of the following services:
processing of payments for the supply of the goods to the customer
listing or advertisement of goods
redirection or transferring of customers to other websites or mobile phone
apps where goods are offered for sale, without any further involvement in any
sale that might take place on that website or app"
| | then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
|
It would be dependent on what the domestic situation is for fulfillment partners
in terms of the actual laws enacted. Here, the platform takes the sale, is responsible
and collects and pays VAT, irrespective if the local partner is registered or
not. The VAT status of the domestic partner is immaterial.
With all due respect, that is what XP will be anyway, and because they are dumping
all the V3 stuff to the classic site to amke XP work, it will have to go that
way. What is the use of saying you do not have to have onsite as a store, but
then buyers cannot checkout if you do not have onsite?
| |
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
I don't think there is a development team. There is a maintenance team (probably
plumbers) who comes in once a month and sweeps the floor.
|
Hi Jean trust you are keeping safe and well
I pretty much agree with all you are saying but even that leaves all kinds of
questions. How have they registered as an OMP or not - they haven't said
directly. Russell has maintained in several threads and messages that the UK
will be treated differently to the EU. We will see about that.
As for collecting vat on orders he has denied that on several occasions. Hard
to go back on that now and it would be worse than spaghetti code trying to sort
that out. UK sellers prices are inclusive of VAT otherwise the seller is writing
off 20^ off the top and that is not healthy. So major changes would have to be
put in place to create fairness and transparency in pricing.
As for xp it has now been around for several years and to be honest we have nothing
- the claims that it will sit alongside classic are just to keep stores happy
as no one wants to maintain 2 separate systems. XP, in ours, and many others
opinions will not succeed for the majority of parts stores - it might work for
sets and one time buyers but the concept is wrong and unless they go back to
the drawing board (and they are not known for doing that) it will kill the site,
in our opinion or at least change the dimensions.
Having said all that the crystal ball is very murky over this entire thing. Lack
of detailed communication and much speculation just creates 'fake news'
really and we have had enough of that.
They definitely need to work more closely with the 'stakeholders' which
we thought would happen when TLG took over, but Bricklink are a small element
of a very large corporation so how much weight they carry remains to be seen.
Anyway take care of yourself and family - get your jab when you can and in the
meantime keep safe
|
|
| Author: | SurplusParts | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:04 | | Subject: | Colour Identification | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
| So on my colour chart here, you have from top left down, old light grey, new
light grey, new dark grey and then old dark grey.
So what colour are the 2 4085a in the middle. They never were released in old
dark grey, but they dont really look old light grey.
I of course know there is colour variations across all colours but i have never
really seen this in the old greys before.
Not sure if i should sell them as light grey as they aren't really.
Any advice appreciated.
Douglas
|
|
|
| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 05:17 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
|
...
| | | | | | | | The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK)
|
Hmm, no actually, irrespective of admin says, there is something called a law.
As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
If they jumped the gun and thought they are the same as an American marketplace
for sales tax purposes, then they should just say so and fix it. It does not
take months and years to fix either. Tax is after all a question of law and fact.
If you factually do not meet the requirements for a legal registration, then
you go change it until you meet what is required. This is not a tax issue, it
is not a tax expert issue, it is not an HMRC issue, it is not even a VAT issue.
It is a management issue which must be managed for the benefit for all stakeholders.
Here is what an online marketplace for UK VAT purposes is - note the requirements
must ALL be met, else the platform cannot collect VAT as a platform and can only
collect VAT on their own turnover.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
What is a marketplace?
"HMRC’s definition of an online marketplace is a business using a website
or mobile phone app (such as a marketplace, platform or portal) to handle the
sale of goods to customers which meets all of the following conditions:
in any way sets the terms and conditions on how goods are supplied to the
customer
is involved in any way in authorising or facilitating customers’ payments
is involved in the ordering or delivery of the goods
A business will not be classed as an online marketplace if it only provides one
of the following services:
processing of payments for the supply of the goods to the customer
listing or advertisement of goods
redirection or transferring of customers to other websites or mobile phone
apps where goods are offered for sale, without any further involvement in any
sale that might take place on that website or app"
| | then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
|
It would be dependent on what the domestic situation is for fulfillment partners
in terms of the actual laws enacted. Here, the platform takes the sale, is responsible
and collects and pays VAT, irrespective if the local partner is registered or
not. The VAT status of the domestic partner is immaterial.
With all due respect, that is what XP will be anyway, and because they are dumping
all the V3 stuff to the classic site to amke XP work, it will have to go that
way. What is the use of saying you do not have to have onsite as a store, but
then buyers cannot checkout if you do not have onsite?
| |
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
I don't think there is a development team. There is a maintenance team (probably
plumbers) who comes in once a month and sweeps the floor.
|
Exactly what I am thinking. Waiting is not an option. BrickLink should make up
his mind, decide what they are, and take control of its actions.
|
|
| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 04:42 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
|
...
| | | | | | | | The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK)
|
Hmm, no actually, irrespective of admin says, there is something called a law.
As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
If they jumped the gun and thought they are the same as an American marketplace
for sales tax purposes, then they should just say so and fix it. It does not
take months and years to fix either. Tax is after all a question of law and fact.
If you factually do not meet the requirements for a legal registration, then
you go change it until you meet what is required. This is not a tax issue, it
is not a tax expert issue, it is not an HMRC issue, it is not even a VAT issue.
It is a management issue which must be managed for the benefit for all stakeholders.
Here is what an online marketplace for UK VAT purposes is - note the requirements
must ALL be met, else the platform cannot collect VAT as a platform and can only
collect VAT on their own turnover.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
What is a marketplace?
"HMRC’s definition of an online marketplace is a business using a website
or mobile phone app (such as a marketplace, platform or portal) to handle the
sale of goods to customers which meets all of the following conditions:
in any way sets the terms and conditions on how goods are supplied to the
customer
is involved in any way in authorising or facilitating customers’ payments
is involved in the ordering or delivery of the goods
A business will not be classed as an online marketplace if it only provides one
of the following services:
processing of payments for the supply of the goods to the customer
listing or advertisement of goods
redirection or transferring of customers to other websites or mobile phone
apps where goods are offered for sale, without any further involvement in any
sale that might take place on that website or app"
| | then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
|
It would be dependent on what the domestic situation is for fulfillment partners
in terms of the actual laws enacted. Here, the platform takes the sale, is responsible
and collects and pays VAT, irrespective if the local partner is registered or
not. The VAT status of the domestic partner is immaterial.
With all due respect, that is what XP will be anyway, and because they are dumping
all the V3 stuff to the classic site to amke XP work, it will have to go that
way. What is the use of saying you do not have to have onsite as a store, but
then buyers cannot checkout if you do not have onsite?
| |
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
I don't think there is a development team. There is a maintenance team (probably
plumbers) who comes in once a month and sweeps the floor.
|
|
| Author: | TBS | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 04:35 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| | Hello!
I know I can check a wanted list against what I currently have listed in my store,
but is there a way to do that same thing in my stores inventory?
Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
|
On the My Inventory page you can chech Items on my Wantlist between the Search
options on the right.
|
Checked for each option, but didn´t found it.
Please explain in more details. Thanks.
|
|
| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 04:17 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK) then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
Yes, although some indication of when they will be doing something about it would
be useful. Are they waiting for the EU changes to come in before bothering with
the UK? Are they going to get the UK version up and running to test it works
before the EU changes come in? Are they going to do nothing about it and hope
everyone just gives up and the problem goes away? Nobody really knows anything.
|
|
| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 03:56 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK) then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
|
| Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 03:38 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
Like this:
|
|
|
| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 02:40 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
|
| Author: | Ladyandabrick | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 23:37 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41378-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 18910pb004 White Panel 3 x 4 x 3 Curved with Double Clip Hinge with Dark Turquoise Heart Shaped Porthole Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41378 (Counterpart)
|
| Author: | starbeanie | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 21:17 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7676-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Those are Black
In Inventories Requests, ameupher writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 5 Part 3794 Dark Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud, Jumper (Undetermined Bottom Type)
Comments from Submitter:
This is not in the set inventory at the back of book two but it is on book 2 page 42 Step 19 subassembly
|
|
|
|
| Author: | ameupher | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 20:17 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7676-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 5 Part 3794 Dark Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud, Jumper (Undetermined Bottom Type)
Comments from Submitter:
This is not in the set inventory at the back of book two but it is on book 2 page 42 Step 19 subassembly
|
| Author: | Bricklanta | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 17:49 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 75884-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Apparently i made an error - BricksThatStick pointed out that 85984pb276 should
not be on a black part, but it should be 85984pb304 instead
|
| Author: | BrickBros20 | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 16:57 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| | Hello!
I know I can check a wanted list against what I currently have listed in my store,
but is there a way to do that same thing in my stores inventory?
Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
|
On the My Inventory page you can chech Items on my Wantlist between the Search
options on the right.
|
Great, thank you! Is there a way to sort the results for a certain wanted list?
~Brick Brothers
|
|
| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 16:49 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| | Hello!
I know I can check a wanted list against what I currently have listed in my store,
but is there a way to do that same thing in my stores inventory?
Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
|
On the My Inventory page you can chech Items on my Wantlist between the Search
options on the right.
|
| Author: | BrickBros20 | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 16:36 | | Subject: | Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hello!
I know I can check a wanted list against what I currently have listed in my store,
but is there a way to do that same thing in my stores inventory?
Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
|
|
| Author: | lmhansmangmail. | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 16:32 | | Subject: | Re: Vat only for new items. | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| I think it is a little more complicated then that. Yes you have to pay Vat when
you are a professional seller and only on the profit margin, but the consumer
doesn't usually pay VAT on used items so i can understand this question.
In NL they are called margin goods and it is up to the seller to either charge
VAT or to not charge it on their bill and they usually do not. And if you sell
consumer to consumer you do not pay VAT but there is this grey area of when you
are a consumer and when you are in business. When you buy a book read it and
sell it on you do not need to pay VAT even if you sell it for more then you bought
it for but if i you buy it with intention to sell at a profit then you do need
to pay VAT.
So i do understand this question but the rules differ per country that why it
is probably impossible for BL to differentiate
|
|
| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:43 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
|
| Author: | Bricklanta | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:30 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 75884-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 45677pb135 Black Wedge 4 x 4 x 2/3 Triple Curved with Lego and Ford Logos Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75884 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87079pb838 Black Tile 2 x 4 with 2 Gold Stripes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75884 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 85984pb276 Black Slope 30 1 x 2 x 2/3 with 2 Gold Stripes on Dark Green Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75884 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
See instructions steps: 35, 52, and 33
(Note 85984pb276 appears in both Dark Green & Black in this set)
https://rebrickable.com/instructions/58708/cb3a24baa4f755c9e555f09193bb0640bce00b49c369194b1ef21ab0cc67c412/download/?expire=1613941647
|
|
| Author: | Lt1202 | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:27 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41365-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 59349pb221 Lavender Panel 1 x 6 x 5 with Paint Brushes and Art Supplies Pattern on Inside (Sticker) - Set 41365 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 59349pb222 Lavender Panel 1 x 6 x 5 with Medium Lavender Cat Design in Light Aqua and Medium Azure Circles and 'Emma' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41365 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 59349pb223 Lavender Panel 1 x 6 x 5 with Lime Leaves and Bright Light Orange Flowers on Lavender Brick Wall with Graffiti Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41365 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 14769pb374 White Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Bottom Stud Holder with Lavender Paint Palette and Brush on Light Aqua Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41365 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 13459pb010 White Road Sign Round on Pole with Paint Palette and Brush on Medium Azure Background Pattern on Both Sides (Stickers) - Set 41365 (Counterpart)
|
|
|
| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:13 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
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And do not forget the OMP must collect all the money and disburse it, else it
is not an OMP. Can you imagine BrickLink being in charge of your money. Iron
Maiden gave very good advice - Run to the hills, Run for your life...
But all of this is moot - they have registered as an OMP, not a normal vendor,
so now they must change the ToS and get going. We wait
and wait...
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| Author: | Lt1202 | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:12 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41349-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4515pb065 Light Bluish Gray Slope 10 6 x 8 with Screen with Road Race Finish Line, Confetti, Palm Trees, City Skyline and Helicopter Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41349 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87079pb872 Dark Turquoise Tile 2 x 4 with Bright Pink Milkshake and Heart Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41349 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 87079pb873 Dark Turquoise Tile 2 x 4 with Menu with Numbers 3, 1 and 2 and Hamburger, French Fries and Ice Cream Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41349 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2335pb226 White Flag 2 x 2 Square with Medium Lavender Heart on Checkered Background and Fried Eggs and Bacon on Reverse Pattern (Stickers) - Set 41349 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 14769pb375 White Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Bottom Stud Holder with Chocolate Milkshake Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41349 (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 14769pb376 Light Aqua Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Bottom Stud Holder with Black Cushion Button and Light Aqua and Medium Lavender Geometric Shapes Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41349 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3068bpb1518 White Tile 2 x 2 with Groove with Hamburger on Wheels Pattern (Sticker) - Set 41349 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:09 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4099-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:
| | I can't get the inventory change form to work last night and today.
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No problems here (as you can see).
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I tried on my laptop and it went through fine. I don't know.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:08 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7555-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part {Chrome Pink to Trans-Clear} {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin (Undetermined Type) to clikits013apb05 Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Frosted with Metallic Pink Coating}
* Change 2 Part {Chrome Silver to Trans-Clear} {clikits110 Clikits Icon Accent, Paper Star 3 1/4 x 3 1/4 with Holographic Overlapping Circles Pattern to clikits265pb01 Clikits Icon Accent, Plastic Star 3 1/4 x 3 1/4 with Glued-On Glitter Pattern}
* Change 4 Part {Metallic Silver to Trans-Clear} {clikits013u Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin (Undetermined Type) to clikits013apb04 Clikits Icon, Star 2 x 2 Small with Pin, Frosted with Metallic Silver Coating}
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 15:01 | | Subject: | Re: Vat only for new items. | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, arska75 writes:
| | I have suggestion that in bricklink you can add VAT only for new items.
Now it is possible only for bouth new and used or none.
Here in Finland Vat include only in new items.
This change help me lot.
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Seems rather odd to me. VAT = Value Added Tax. It does not depend on something
being new or used. As long as there is value added, there is tax to be payed.
The regular situation is a percentage VAT. However Consumers can't charge
VAT so if you buy from a Consumer and sell again, you have to pay VAT on the
difference (if positive), because that is the value added. Most of the time it
will be used items, but in principle the items could be new as well. That does
not make any difference.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 14:57 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
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Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
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| Author: | Speciale | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 14:43 | | Subject: | Re: Vat only for new items. | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, arska75 writes:
| | I have suggestion that in bricklink you can add VAT only for new items.
Now it is possible only for bouth new and used or none.
Here in Finland Vat include only in new items.
This change help me lot.
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in europ you have to pay vat on your profit when you sell used items if you are
vat registered seller .
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 21, 2021 13:57 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, Admin_Russell writes:
...
| | | | | | No, we should expect. After all we pay fees for this site. It was long time known
Brexit was coming, they should have been ready for it.
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As almost everyone on this forum knows I am not Bricklink's biggest fan as
far as developmenet work goes however I think in this case it is fair to say
that the UK hasn't yet got it right and neither does the rest of the EU -
Just look at the below from a site we use regularly. (Don't forget we still
have VAT to look forward to
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I recently promised more details on our Brexit solution, but I will just be frank
with you, that what you have described is exactly the case. We are waiting to
hear from our tax professionals as to how we need to proceed, and they are waiting
to hear from the authorities. It feels as if we are actually further from a solution
at this point than we were at the beginning of the year.
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With all due respect, as one of those who have closed down sales to the UK and
losing some busienss because of it, you went and registered as an Online Marketplace
all by yourselves when even the worst advisor would have told you, BrickLink
is not an OMP for UK VAT purposes. If you had to register as a vendor for VAT
purposes that would have allowed you to collect VAT on your fees and pay VAT
on your sales originating in the UK when you have AFOL program again which is
part of your UK turnover.
But by registering as an online marketplace vendor you are factually liable to
collect the VAT on every export sale to the UK made on this platform. You are
also factually liable to give buyers invoices as sellers are not the vendors.
You do not have to share the VAT number with me, all you have you to do is, when
a buyer place an order, invoice the buyer VAT inclusive, collect the money and
disburse it - VAT to the government, sale and shipping to me, exactly as an online
marketplace for UK VAT purposes is supposed to do.
Certainly, if your advisors are spinning their wheels, you should get other advisors.
BrickLink is not only responsible to BrickLink. If you view BrickLink as a marketplace,
then BrickLink is responsible to buyers and sellers as well. And that is where
you are missing the pot and messing on the floor and we all have to wade in the
mess caused by it. If your registration is not as an OMP fior UK VAT purposes,
but as a normal UK vendor, then say so so that sellers can register for VAT and
be done with it. But please do not tell me that you are an online OMP for UK
VAT purposes then still require of me to invoice a buyer - that birdie don't
fly.
And as has been mentioned - the UK is not in the EU any longer - it does not
require input from the government or a tax advisor to fix a search function which
has been wrong for almost two months.
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Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
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