Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | Admin_Russell  | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: Changing old minifig pics? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | There are many old minifig pics in the catalog. Made with 2010 digital cameras
or so.
So I wonder: does it make sense to update those old - and often not so very clear
- pictures with newer ones?
I understand that the first person who submits the picture receives the credit
for the picture, so this might be a sensitive area.
Today I scanned
with my Instabrick. With very minor modifications the result is the attached
picture.
Personally I think this is a better picture than the one currently in the catalog.
What do you think?
|
How true is the color of the tie in your photo?
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| Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:39 | | Subject: | Changing old minifig pics? | | Viewed: | 103 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| There are many old minifig pics in the catalog. Made with 2010 digital cameras
or so.
So I wonder: does it make sense to update those old - and often not so very clear
- pictures with newer ones?
I understand that the first person who submits the picture receives the credit
for the picture, so this might be a sensitive area.
Today I scanned
with my Instabrick. With very minor modifications the result is the attached
picture.
Personally I think this is a better picture than the one currently in the catalog.
What do you think?
|
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | Hi all,
I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
After visiting a Lego certified store today I received the 40450 Amelia Earhart
tribute set, which will be available from February 22 until stocks last. As far
as I can tell, this set has not been submitted to the catalog and no pending
details are available.
Can I add this set to the catalog?
Thanks,
Steve
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| Author: | TBS | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 11:05 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | In Catalog, TBS writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | On the My Inventory page you can chech Items on my Wantlist between the Search
options on the right.
|
Checked for each option, but didn´t found it.
Please explain in more details. Thanks.
|
|
Thank you. Good you finally found this for me.  .
It´s a bit messy not choosing which WL, because of my special organizing, but
better than nothing.
(That´s because i have some Wanted Lists with stuff i already HAVE to get noticed
to SKIP it in a shop showing these.)
So i can make a new window on a 2nd screen, and deduct my quantities fom the
inventory.
THX, again.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 10:37 | | Subject: | Re: Set #21120 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, wjbarker writes:
| | Hi there,
Part #3070bpb085 is listed in Set #21120 as an Extra item, but is not listed
as a Regular Item. It is a regular item in the Instructions Entry, so it seems
like this should be a Regular item in the set.
Thanks for the amazing site!
|
The regular one is in the inventory in the minifig
|
| Author: | wjbarker | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 10:34 | | Subject: | Set #21120 | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi there,
Part #3070bpb085 is listed in Set #21120 as an Extra item, but is not listed
as a Regular Item. It is a regular item in the Instructions Entry, so it seems
like this should be a Regular item in the set.
Thanks for the amazing site!
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| Author: | iprice | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
| | Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
|
They're not fun guys, like normal figs? 
|
| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:48 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8874-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Black 3665 Slope, Inverted 45 2 x 1 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 3 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Black 3660 Slope, Inverted 45 2 x 2 {Alternate to Regular} {match ID 3 to 99}
* Change 1 Part Blue-Violet 4495a Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left {match ID 4 to 3}
* Change 1 Part Blue 4495a Flag 4 x 1 Wave Left (Alternate) {match ID 4 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
See additional instructions image.
Please add a note for the redesign, thanks.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:30 | | Subject: | Re: Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Iliketurtles1 writes:
| | Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
|
Because it was decided that they are not figures ...
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1218528
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| Author: | Iliketurtles1 | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:23 | | Subject: | Mushrooms In Super Mario | | Viewed: | 96 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Why are the mushrooms not considered figures? They are considered figures in
the character packs.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 08:15 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| | | As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
|
This has already been posted by BL staff in response to a US / non-UK seller
about VAT:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1245416
BrickLink is now a registered marketplace in the UK, meaning the burden of
the
VAT is on BrickLink, and not you as a seller. You can send whatever size of
order you like to the UK on BrickLink. Don't feel you need to limit orders
to 135 GBP and above.
From the wording, I would take it as the burden of the VAT calculation and collection
is on BL, not on individual sellers. Quite why this statement was made at that
time, I do not know, as it is clear that BL are not calculating or collecting
VAT for imports into the UK.
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| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:32 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
...
Afternoon Bill
All is well here thank you, but all is obviously not well in the BL world (nothing
new there). Hope you and your family are safe.
| | Hi Jean trust you are keeping safe and well
I pretty much agree with all you are saying but even that leaves all kinds of
questions. How have they registered as an OMP or not - they haven't said
directly.
|
Actually, Russell said they registered as an OMP for UK VAT purposes, and I've
not seen anything to the contrary from BL's side.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1243028
and quote: "BrickLink is now officially registered as a marketplace with the
UK"
| | Russell has maintained in several threads and messages that the UK
will be treated differently to the EU. We will see about that.
|
|
BrickLink is an online marktplace by any definition I encountered, not just UK.
If the marketplace has an active role, which means not just bringing together
supply and demand, then it is a marketplace. And yes, BrickLink is very active:
supporting ordering, invoicing, stock maintainance, quotes, payment method supports,
etc. So, definitely an OMP. Regardless whether they have registered as such,
they will be deemed as such, and be liable as such.
| |
Could be, if the UK laws are different to the EU laws when it comes to this issue.
But even if so, they need to sort this UK issue at some point, because the EU
would be a fair bit more work.
|
Rules can and are different for different countries a/o states. As OMP this is
a huge burden on IT and administration.
The EU attempts to simplify rules and regulations, but these will take effect
only as of July 1, 2021. Even then, country-specific regulations are still possible.
| |
I'm starting to think actually that they are just normally registered and
trying to figure out a way to collect VAT on imports without becoming fully liable
for orders. It is a stated goal of BrickLinbk management to collect all taxes
on all orders, heaven help us. This is the only possible understanding I can
get from the mixed messages coming out, and if that is the case, I don't
know if a person must laugh or cry, because it would be so horribly stupid if
sellers had to stop shipping for two months to the UK because BrickLink cannot
determine what type of registration it has.
But until they do not make an announcement to whatever effect, I don't think
it wise to take chances and ship to the UK. I'm also too lazy to register
myself for VAT while I wait for them, and then deregister when they finally figure
out that they are sucking on the ring end of the rubber dummy.
| |
As for collecting vat on orders he has denied that on several occasions. Hard
to go back on that now and it would be worse than spaghetti code trying to sort
that out. UK sellers prices are inclusive of VAT otherwise the seller is writing
off 20^ off the top and that is not healthy. So major changes would have to be
put in place to create fairness and transparency in pricing.
As for xp it has now been around for several years and to be honest we have nothing
- the claims that it will sit alongside classic are just to keep stores happy
as no one wants to maintain 2 separate systems. XP, in ours, and many others
opinions will not succeed for the majority of parts stores - it might work for
sets and one time buyers but the concept is wrong and unless they go back to
the drawing board (and they are not known for doing that) it will kill the site,
in our opinion or at least change the dimensions.
Having said all that the crystal ball is very murky over this entire thing. Lack
of detailed communication and much speculation just creates 'fake news'
really and we have had enough of that.
They definitely need to work more closely with the 'stakeholders' which
we thought would happen when TLG took over, but Bricklink are a small element
of a very large corporation so how much weight they carry remains to be seen.
Anyway take care of yourself and family - get your jab when you can and in the
meantime keep safe
|
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:28 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| | Great, thank you! Is there a way to sort the results for a certain wanted list?
|
You can visit your store and get results for individual wanted lists that way,
but I don't think there's a way to do this from your Inventory page.
|
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:26 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
[snip]
| | Everything is just so backwards, I am not a tax expert by a long shot but let's
just look at this from a logic perspective:
If it was legally valid to write "Bricklink order" on your invoice, then the
EU and the UK would have had an emergency meeting by now because they realised
that almost all of the international trade is being labelled "Bricklink order"
It can't work like that. So yeah, EITHER Bricklink is the seller and WE sell
to Bricklink - thus a US export, export to US rules apply - OR we sell to the
customer in their country AND that country's rules apply.
From the persective of the seller, these are simply the only two ways. As a seller
you need to have invoices that mention the country, and then apply the rules
for THAT country. There is only "United States" or "United Kingdom". There's
simply no such thing as "United Kingdom-but-it's-a-Bricklink-order-and-Bricklink-said-it's-fine"
Or am I too pessimstic about the amount of patience tax agencies have when doing
audits and people come up with stories about platform selling (without hard evidence)?
|
Read the link below, this is not something new. The UK already started in 2016
with quote: "special provisions for online marketplaces".
http://kluwertaxblog.com/2020/02/26/online-marketplaces-and-eu-vat-global-reach-but-compliance-still-local/
These changes to come have been known for 4 years up until Jan 1, 2021.
The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
Good luck explaining that to the Belastingdienst...
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:23 | | Subject: | Re: 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
|
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
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| Author: | Turez | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 07:03 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Identification | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
| In Colors, SurplusParts writes:
| | So on my colour chart here, you have from top left down, old light grey, new
light grey, new dark grey and then old dark grey.
So what colour are the 2 4085a in the middle. They never were released in old
dark grey, but they dont really look old light grey.
I of course know there is colour variations across all colours but i have never
really seen this in the old greys before.
Not sure if i should sell them as light grey as they aren't really.
Any advice appreciated.
Douglas
|
This is a known variation of light gray for these clips.
See
https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=261737&nID=1171994
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1208961
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| Author: | Brickwilbo | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:49 | | Subject: | Re: Checking a Wanted List Against an Inventory? | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, TBS writes:
| | In Catalog, Brickwilbo writes:
| | In Catalog, BrickBros20 writes:
| | Hello!
I know I can check a wanted list against what I currently have listed in my store,
but is there a way to do that same thing in my stores inventory?
Thanks!
~Brick Brothers
|
On the My Inventory page you can chech Items on my Wantlist between the Search
options on the right.
|
Checked for each option, but didn´t found it.
Please explain in more details. Thanks.
|
|
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| Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:47 | | Subject: | Re: 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| https://www.bricklink.com/wantedCatalog.asp?catType=S
In Catalog, platinum_lego writes:
| | Hi all,
I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
After visiting a Lego certified store today I received the 40450 Amelia Earhart
tribute set, which will be available from February 22 until stocks last. As far
as I can tell, this set has not been submitted to the catalog and no pending
details are available.
Can I add this set to the catalog?
Thanks,
Steve
|
|
|
| Author: | bje | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:47 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
...
Afternoon Bill
All is well here thank you, but all is obviously not well in the BL world (nothing
new there). Hope you and your family are safe.
| | Hi Jean trust you are keeping safe and well
I pretty much agree with all you are saying but even that leaves all kinds of
questions. How have they registered as an OMP or not - they haven't said
directly.
|
Actually, Russell said they registered as an OMP for UK VAT purposes, and I've
not seen anything to the contrary from BL's side.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1243028
and quote: "BrickLink is now officially registered as a marketplace with the
UK"
| | Russell has maintained in several threads and messages that the UK
will be treated differently to the EU. We will see about that.
|
Could be, if the UK laws are different to the EU laws when it comes to this issue.
But even if so, they need to sort this UK issue at some point, because the EU
would be a fair bit more work.
I'm starting to think actually that they are just normally registered and
trying to figure out a way to collect VAT on imports without becoming fully liable
for orders. It is a stated goal of BrickLinbk management to collect all taxes
on all orders, heaven help us. This is the only possible understanding I can
get from the mixed messages coming out, and if that is the case, I don't
know if a person must laugh or cry, because it would be so horribly stupid if
sellers had to stop shipping for two months to the UK because BrickLink cannot
determine what type of registration it has.
But until they do not make an announcement to whatever effect, I don't think
it wise to take chances and ship to the UK. I'm also too lazy to register
myself for VAT while I wait for them, and then deregister when they finally figure
out that they are sucking on the ring end of the rubber dummy.
| |
As for collecting vat on orders he has denied that on several occasions. Hard
to go back on that now and it would be worse than spaghetti code trying to sort
that out. UK sellers prices are inclusive of VAT otherwise the seller is writing
off 20^ off the top and that is not healthy. So major changes would have to be
put in place to create fairness and transparency in pricing.
As for xp it has now been around for several years and to be honest we have nothing
- the claims that it will sit alongside classic are just to keep stores happy
as no one wants to maintain 2 separate systems. XP, in ours, and many others
opinions will not succeed for the majority of parts stores - it might work for
sets and one time buyers but the concept is wrong and unless they go back to
the drawing board (and they are not known for doing that) it will kill the site,
in our opinion or at least change the dimensions.
Having said all that the crystal ball is very murky over this entire thing. Lack
of detailed communication and much speculation just creates 'fake news'
really and we have had enough of that.
They definitely need to work more closely with the 'stakeholders' which
we thought would happen when TLG took over, but Bricklink are a small element
of a very large corporation so how much weight they carry remains to be seen.
Anyway take care of yourself and family - get your jab when you can and in the
meantime keep safe
|
|
|
| Author: | platinum_lego | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:39 | | Subject: | 40450 Amelia Earhart - add to catalog?? | | Viewed: | 174 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hi all,
I was just wondering what the deal is with adding a new set to the catalog.
After visiting a Lego certified store today I received the 40450 Amelia Earhart
tribute set, which will be available from February 22 until stocks last. As far
as I can tell, this set has not been submitted to the catalog and no pending
details are available.
Can I add this set to the catalog?
Thanks,
Steve
|
|
| Author: | Ber_i | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:29 | | Subject: | Re: Colour Identification | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Colors | |
| I think they are old light gray.
They are visible on the boxart of set 6801 (back of the craft).
|
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| Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:15 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
|
...
| | | | | | | | The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK)
|
Hmm, no actually, irrespective of admin says, there is something called a law.
As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
If they jumped the gun and thought they are the same as an American marketplace
for sales tax purposes, then they should just say so and fix it. It does not
take months and years to fix either. Tax is after all a question of law and fact.
If you factually do not meet the requirements for a legal registration, then
you go change it until you meet what is required. This is not a tax issue, it
is not a tax expert issue, it is not an HMRC issue, it is not even a VAT issue.
It is a management issue which must be managed for the benefit for all stakeholders.
Here is what an online marketplace for UK VAT purposes is - note the requirements
must ALL be met, else the platform cannot collect VAT as a platform and can only
collect VAT on their own turnover.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
What is a marketplace?
"HMRC’s definition of an online marketplace is a business using a website
or mobile phone app (such as a marketplace, platform or portal) to handle the
sale of goods to customers which meets all of the following conditions:
in any way sets the terms and conditions on how goods are supplied to the
customer
is involved in any way in authorising or facilitating customers’ payments
is involved in the ordering or delivery of the goods
A business will not be classed as an online marketplace if it only provides one
of the following services:
processing of payments for the supply of the goods to the customer
listing or advertisement of goods
redirection or transferring of customers to other websites or mobile phone
apps where goods are offered for sale, without any further involvement in any
sale that might take place on that website or app"
| | then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
|
It would be dependent on what the domestic situation is for fulfillment partners
in terms of the actual laws enacted. Here, the platform takes the sale, is responsible
and collects and pays VAT, irrespective if the local partner is registered or
not. The VAT status of the domestic partner is immaterial.
With all due respect, that is what XP will be anyway, and because they are dumping
all the V3 stuff to the classic site to amke XP work, it will have to go that
way. What is the use of saying you do not have to have onsite as a store, but
then buyers cannot checkout if you do not have onsite?
| |
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
I don't think there is a development team. There is a maintenance team (probably
plumbers) who comes in once a month and sweeps the floor.
|
Hi Jean trust you are keeping safe and well
I pretty much agree with all you are saying but even that leaves all kinds of
questions. How have they registered as an OMP or not - they haven't said
directly. Russell has maintained in several threads and messages that the UK
will be treated differently to the EU. We will see about that.
As for collecting vat on orders he has denied that on several occasions. Hard
to go back on that now and it would be worse than spaghetti code trying to sort
that out. UK sellers prices are inclusive of VAT otherwise the seller is writing
off 20^ off the top and that is not healthy. So major changes would have to be
put in place to create fairness and transparency in pricing.
As for xp it has now been around for several years and to be honest we have nothing
- the claims that it will sit alongside classic are just to keep stores happy
as no one wants to maintain 2 separate systems. XP, in ours, and many others
opinions will not succeed for the majority of parts stores - it might work for
sets and one time buyers but the concept is wrong and unless they go back to
the drawing board (and they are not known for doing that) it will kill the site,
in our opinion or at least change the dimensions.
Having said all that the crystal ball is very murky over this entire thing. Lack
of detailed communication and much speculation just creates 'fake news'
really and we have had enough of that.
They definitely need to work more closely with the 'stakeholders' which
we thought would happen when TLG took over, but Bricklink are a small element
of a very large corporation so how much weight they carry remains to be seen.
Anyway take care of yourself and family - get your jab when you can and in the
meantime keep safe
|
|
| Author: | SurplusParts | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 06:04 | | Subject: | Colour Identification | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | Colors | | Status: | Open | |
| So on my colour chart here, you have from top left down, old light grey, new
light grey, new dark grey and then old dark grey.
So what colour are the 2 4085a in the middle. They never were released in old
dark grey, but they dont really look old light grey.
I of course know there is colour variations across all colours but i have never
really seen this in the old greys before.
Not sure if i should sell them as light grey as they aren't really.
Any advice appreciated.
Douglas
|
|
|
| Author: | leggodtshop | | Posted: | Feb 22, 2021 05:17 | | Subject: | Re: Brexit | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, bje writes:
| | In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
|
...
| | | | | | | | The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
|
So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
|
If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK)
|
Hmm, no actually, irrespective of admin says, there is something called a law.
As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
If they jumped the gun and thought they are the same as an American marketplace
for sales tax purposes, then they should just say so and fix it. It does not
take months and years to fix either. Tax is after all a question of law and fact.
If you factually do not meet the requirements for a legal registration, then
you go change it until you meet what is required. This is not a tax issue, it
is not a tax expert issue, it is not an HMRC issue, it is not even a VAT issue.
It is a management issue which must be managed for the benefit for all stakeholders.
Here is what an online marketplace for UK VAT purposes is - note the requirements
must ALL be met, else the platform cannot collect VAT as a platform and can only
collect VAT on their own turnover.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
What is a marketplace?
"HMRC’s definition of an online marketplace is a business using a website
or mobile phone app (such as a marketplace, platform or portal) to handle the
sale of goods to customers which meets all of the following conditions:
in any way sets the terms and conditions on how goods are supplied to the
customer
is involved in any way in authorising or facilitating customers’ payments
is involved in the ordering or delivery of the goods
A business will not be classed as an online marketplace if it only provides one
of the following services:
processing of payments for the supply of the goods to the customer
listing or advertisement of goods
redirection or transferring of customers to other websites or mobile phone
apps where goods are offered for sale, without any further involvement in any
sale that might take place on that website or app"
| | then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
|
It would be dependent on what the domestic situation is for fulfillment partners
in terms of the actual laws enacted. Here, the platform takes the sale, is responsible
and collects and pays VAT, irrespective if the local partner is registered or
not. The VAT status of the domestic partner is immaterial.
With all due respect, that is what XP will be anyway, and because they are dumping
all the V3 stuff to the classic site to amke XP work, it will have to go that
way. What is the use of saying you do not have to have onsite as a store, but
then buyers cannot checkout if you do not have onsite?
| |
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
I don't think there is a development team. There is a maintenance team (probably
plumbers) who comes in once a month and sweeps the floor.
|
Exactly what I am thinking. Waiting is not an option. BrickLink should make up
his mind, decide what they are, and take control of its actions.
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| In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, patpendlego writes:
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| | | | | | | | The OMP is liable. Not just for VAT, but also for the transaction to the buyer.
A BrickLink Order has become a transaction between 3 parties: the buyer, the
(overseas) seller, and BrickLink is now involed too.
All this because governments/countries want to VAT low valued transactions because
of the high volume and thus high 'income' there is to gain by taxing.
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So, what does the seller's invoice look like?
|
The seller is not invoicing anymore. BrickLink is. The seller is merely a third-party
provider allowing BrickLink to sell their items. The customer buys from BrickLink.
E.g. like bol.com
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If that becomes the case, and it has already been said by admin it won't
be (at least for the UK)
|
Hmm, no actually, irrespective of admin says, there is something called a law.
As long as BL is registered as a marketplace, then they have to collect the VAT,
invoice the customer and be responsible for the goods, as Arnoud said. Sellers
are only fulfillment partners, like on Amazon.
If they do not meet ALL of the requirements for an OMP, they should not have
registered as such. They can still change their registration to an ordinary vendor
and actually inform sellers what they are doing while waiting. This dense wall
of non-communication about what they are doing is what is causing the confusion,
not HMRC or tax experts or whatever.
If they jumped the gun and thought they are the same as an American marketplace
for sales tax purposes, then they should just say so and fix it. It does not
take months and years to fix either. Tax is after all a question of law and fact.
If you factually do not meet the requirements for a legal registration, then
you go change it until you meet what is required. This is not a tax issue, it
is not a tax expert issue, it is not an HMRC issue, it is not even a VAT issue.
It is a management issue which must be managed for the benefit for all stakeholders.
Here is what an online marketplace for UK VAT purposes is - note the requirements
must ALL be met, else the platform cannot collect VAT as a platform and can only
collect VAT on their own turnover.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-and-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-in-the-uk-using-online-marketplaces
What is a marketplace?
"HMRC’s definition of an online marketplace is a business using a website
or mobile phone app (such as a marketplace, platform or portal) to handle the
sale of goods to customers which meets all of the following conditions:
in any way sets the terms and conditions on how goods are supplied to the
customer
is involved in any way in authorising or facilitating customers’ payments
is involved in the ordering or delivery of the goods
A business will not be classed as an online marketplace if it only provides one
of the following services:
processing of payments for the supply of the goods to the customer
listing or advertisement of goods
redirection or transferring of customers to other websites or mobile phone
apps where goods are offered for sale, without any further involvement in any
sale that might take place on that website or app"
| | then a lot of stores will disappear. They have said
repeatedly that they have no plans on charging vat on orders in the UK, other
than import/export situation.
|
It would be dependent on what the domestic situation is for fulfillment partners
in terms of the actual laws enacted. Here, the platform takes the sale, is responsible
and collects and pays VAT, irrespective if the local partner is registered or
not. The VAT status of the domestic partner is immaterial.
With all due respect, that is what XP will be anyway, and because they are dumping
all the V3 stuff to the classic site to amke XP work, it will have to go that
way. What is the use of saying you do not have to have onsite as a store, but
then buyers cannot checkout if you do not have onsite?
| |
Mind you all of this is total speculation and that was mentioned by Russell in
this thread. They are lagging behind on getting this done, which is also increasingly
worrying. When it comes to making progrtammin chnages haste makes waste and they
are very much aware of that.
|
I don't think there is a development team. There is a maintenance team (probably
plumbers) who comes in once a month and sweeps the floor.
|
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