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 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Aug 13, 2020 12:40
 Subject: Re: About Braille Bricks
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, bje writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.

So, it appears the LEGO Braille bricks are (finally) soon to be released ( https://www.newelementary.com/2020/08/free-lego-braille-bricks-released-by.html
).
They’ll only be made available for free to blind children through the LEGO Foundation. 
They won’t be buyable.

Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL?  (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)

And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)

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¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here

It has always been my intention to purchase some of these and donate it myself
as there is no official Braille partner here. This school would most definitely
gain from such a donation: http://www.pioneerschool.org.za/

I sincerely hope that admins will allow these to be sold on BL in order to reach
a wider audience than what TLG is aiming for.

I think this is a difficult one. If they are not going to sell them, then it
seems a bit wrong that they allow others to sell them if they are not a commercial
product.

I showed the original story to a partially sighted friend who teaches Braille
and he was quite positive about them but did point out that they are way too
big so probably best for younger kids only, like a sighted kid sounding out a
word letter by letter.

I think here we are privileged (?) that the government will not allow something
as a donation unless there is certification all along the transaction's entire
route. So from the sale on BL, the import, the distribution to the school - everything
has to be aboveboard and with a proper paper trail. I think under those circumstances,
the sale as a non-commercial product can be managed with all of the parties including
BL.

My thinking was not also only on the size but also for the fact hat we have 11
official languages and schooling is not available in all 11, the situation is
even worse for Braille books in for example SeSotho. So my thinking was they
could be used as mother tongue teaching aids, even if they are not used by the
children directly.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Aug 13, 2020 12:05
 Subject: Re: About Braille Bricks
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  I guess this is more a question to “corporate” admins (aka Russell) than the
member admins but I feel that getting every one (non-admin included)’s opinion
will be healthful.

So, it appears the LEGO Braille bricks are (finally) soon to be released ( https://www.newelementary.com/2020/08/free-lego-braille-bricks-released-by.html
).
They’ll only be made available for free to blind children through the LEGO Foundation. 
They won’t be buyable.

Will there be a policy to forbid their sale on BL?  (to prevent encouraging collecting
/ second market, IOW, stealing from children¹)

And if so, will the bricks still be in the catalogue or not?
(Will it be possible to enforce a ban if they are?)

——
¹ Nah, I’m strictly objective, no way I’m sneaking my opinion here

It has always been my intention to purchase some of these and donate it myself
as there is no official Braille partner here. This school would most definitely
gain from such a donation: http://www.pioneerschool.org.za/

I sincerely hope that admins will allow these to be sold on BL in order to reach
a wider audience than what TLG is aiming for.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Aug 13, 2020 06:02
 Subject: Re: Do not default new parts as weight bound
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, paulvdb writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

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I think it was primarily introduced in the beginning to get IC working for most
parts. Since many don't (or at least didn't) have dimensions it would
be almost impossible to use IC. But in my opinion the goal should have been to
get dimensions for all parts in the catalog and then gid rid of weight bound.

If you look at the dimensions you have in your store, you will see there was
a huge bunch of them done right when IC started, and then a trickle afterwards.
You'll probably find that most decorated parts, torso, legs assys and heads
are wither missing or wrong.

  
Of course that would have required additional programming effort to make it easier
to submit missing dimensions. It's taking a lot of work to post these in
the forum and then wait for someone at BL to manually add them. There really
should have been shipping dimension fields in the add and change item forms so
that we could submit them there like most other changes to the catalog.

Yes please. Mooted some months ago already and since then no news.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Aug 13, 2020 05:58
 Subject: Re: Do not default new parts as weight bound
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, calsbricks writes:
  In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
  
Weights are additive. It doesn't really matter if one part is 1g and another
100g. The order is 101g. And while volumes are (approximately) additive if all
the parts individually fit into a certain box size, individual part dimensions
cannot necessarily be warped. A 5x5x5 cm part is not the same as a 1x5x25 cm
part, even though the volume is the same. If the total parcel size doesn't
matter, the seller need not have a restriction and all parts will pass that size
check. Whereas if the parcel size does matter, then the size check is necessary.

Are there situations where weight bound is important?

When IC was launched we sent a message to BL development asking why they had
not included weight/volume as a packaging method and were told that did not fit
the design. That is because they used the US postal system as their focus., and
this is why we have always suggested that a regional based system would have
been better - taken longer for sure, and more complicated, of course, but much
better for those that want to automate their checkout.

We recently went from no volume restrictions for postage to freight restrictions
with additional restrictions on top of that. Freight has always used the volume
restrictions with those 5 000 factors, so for domestic, we've never had a
purely weight bound system. The USA changed over to a volume system last year.
So personally, I do not see any reason for any shipping method with only a weight
restriction.

As a buyer, I do have a forwarder which use a weight only system, but of course
it still has to be shipped in the country of origin, so again, even where the
extraordinary circumstance exists, it is negated by the fact that the regional
setting would need to be applied first and foremost.
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: Aug 13, 2020 05:49
 Subject: Re: Do not default new parts as weight bound
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:
  In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, bje writes:


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Thanks, I didn't check that non IC search function before, it's quite
well hidden. I've got a poster that's got packing dimensions as if it's
unfolded. Hope that's not true for all posters in the catalog.

I think some posters get their dimensions off the catalogue dimensions, which
I believe are generally measured to open, not as it is when you receive it in
the box. The catalogue dimensions being something different to how you would
pack it of course.

  
As for the warning, it could show up in the to-do items in the My Store menu.
I already have that green dot showing there permanently because it keeps telling
me to send notifications for parts which I simply don't want to do. It would
be good if those to-do items could be dismissed and the warning was clearer,
because now the green dot is just a fixed part of the interface for me that I
don't even pay attention to. If that function would work better and items
without dimensions would show up in the to do list, it may motivate people to
submit them.

I think it has to happen when you list or part out, but then the system of updating
them must also be a lot simpler. The current shortcut of just having something
to make another thing work in some manner is sort of weird.

  
I've submitted 2 packing dimensions a while ago and neither seems to have
been implemented so far. I guess if they will, I'll have motivation to measure
a couple more.

THAT is a very very sore point - I picked up some from May this morning not done
yet. I don't think the issue is that members are not motivated, it is that
is so difficult to pick up on errors that most sellers just probably pad their
costs or restrictions or simply pay in and worry about it next time.

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