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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:

In Catalog, Tracyd writes:

In Catalog, axaday writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

Lastly, the orange Classic Space minifigure (not really sure it would be considered
reissue it being a new color)

He is going to look like an old Classic Space figure, but be orange and have
a hollow stud head and a torso with inner ribs, so he'll be a reissue.

How can something that was never issued be reissued? Thant makes 0 sense. This
needs some better verbiage, and no I don't currently have any.

"Modern" works, at least for now. In 20 years it will not be so meaningful.
Worse still if they make new ones in future, they'd need a new term. Although
same with a reissued reissue. Maybe "issue 1" and "issue 2" would be better.

The orange space minifigure was never released in the past, so there should never
be any confusion of buyers being misled. I personally don't care if they
call it "reissue". The term modern is confusing as time goes on. I personally
think the term "Classic Space" refers to both original space theme and style
of the original space theme. The BL catalog will show that this figure was released
in 2020, so there should be no confusion.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Aug 5, 2020 21:52

Subject:

Re: Orange Classic Space minifigure

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In Catalog, peregrinator writes:

In Catalog, axaday writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

Lastly, the orange Classic Space minifigure (not really sure it would be considered
reissue it being a new color)

He is going to look like an old Classic Space figure, but be orange and have
a hollow stud head and a torso with inner ribs, so he'll be a reissue.

I'm guessing the new thick chinstrap helmet too with the sprue mark on top.

Although the helmet in the OP's picture looks different, more like the "classic
thick chin strap" version

Ah, there's the explanation: "The orange is photoshopped from a red spaceman,
though."

Not a photoshop.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Aug 5, 2020 18:20

Subject:

Orange Classic Space minifigure

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It has come to my attention that Benny minifigures do not contain the wording
'Classic Space' which all the other versions of the classic space minifigure
do contain that. Some of the re-released classic space minifigures are from The
Lego Movie and hence their 'tlm' minifig prefix. Is there are reason
why Benny does not get the honor of having the 'Classic Space' description?
When searching for 'Classic Space' minifigures other town figures come
up with the classic space figure helmet or spaceman or whatnot on their shirt.

I guess what I am saying is that it would make it more uniform to have all of
them have the Classic Space designation in their title description so that they
can all be found since they are scattered across Space, The Lego Movie, and Town
categories.

Lastly, the orange Classic Space minifigure (not really sure it would be considered
reissue it being a new color) is coming out in October, and from looking into
other DK books, it looks like it will have the 'sp' prefix. I have the
figure on hand. Just let me know if you want me to take a photo of it for the
catalogue. I do not have the book.

figure reference: https://www.brothers-brick.com/2020/01/03/new-orange-spaceman-joins-the-classic-space-lego-minifigure-lineup-news/

The book is not out until October 13th in US, October 1st in UK through Amazon.

My photo of the gang (minus the gray space guy, I am awaiting his helmet)

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Aug 3, 2020 10:35

Subject:

Re: Super Mario - Minifigs vs Animals

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, jonwil writes:

How was it decided which enemies should be minifigs and which should be animals?

I'm not a fan of waiting, but I was waiting patiently for this topic to arise.
Fortunately, I was not required to wait long.

I originally had them all categorized as figures. I would like to see, by the
way, all figures eventually categorized that way whether they are animal or human
figures. It would solve problems.

Then I moved most to animals based on the new sorting criteria. I discovered
that the new criteria didn't help too terribly much. Or, to put it differently,
they didn't assist as much as I would've hoped.

To answer your question, the ones I left as figures were those that had seemed
to play some kind of role in the series as characters, especially with speaking
parts. My selection might not have been perfect, I'll admit. We can move
animals to figures or figures to animals as deemed necessary.

A Monty Mole for example seems very much like an animal to me because it is a
mole and not sentient in any way

I was definitely undecided about Monty Mole. It was a tough one. But this was
a playable character in at least four Mario games. In one game a Monty Mole
was an ally to the main characters. In another game a Monty Mole operated a
tank and in a different game a three-barreled cannon.

Oh no, what a mess. I know they do not fit the classic definition of a minifigure
anyway, but for the sake of a lack of a better category (fictional character
or something like that) I would just keep them all under the minifigure. For
example Mario Bob-omb is not an animal in any shape or form. It's a fictional
character. Bombs with feet are not land animals.

After all there are many minifigures from Ninjago that are snakelike and are
included in the minifigure category. Keeping all of these characters together
will just make for an easier chore in finding and purchasing them.

[p=mariobobomb01]

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 18, 2020 13:49

Subject:

Re: Missing large/high quality images in catalog

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

My suggestion is to see if better quality and higher resolution images can be obtained from The Lego Group

This was addressed on June 26th:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1206633

Thanks. I missed this thread. Glad to hear that the admin team is already on
top of this. I also agree that the images should be official images.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 18, 2020 13:36

Subject:

Missing large/high quality images in catalog

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A lot of old Lego sets have very small images in the Bricklink catalog. They
look like they were obtained from printed sources from the printed catalogs that
used to be included with those sets back in the 80s/90s. My suggestion is to
see if better quality and higher resolution images can be obtained from The Lego
Group for the Bricklink catalog. After all, Lego owns Bricklink. What does the
admin team think of this? Perhaps I am assuming too much and a convenient archive
of these images for all of these old sets does not readily exist for Bricklinks
use. It's worth checking into it. Are there any objections?

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 13, 2020 12:51

Subject:

Re: Add feature of minimum FB for listings.

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In Suggestions, bje writes:

Some of the best buyers I've had the privilege of welcoming in my store have
been zero/low feedback users. So while I understand the rationale for this and
of course it being elective, I personally think that all users have to start
somewhere, so it is maybe not in the best interest of stores to needlessly limit
the buying experience.

Laws are not the same everywhere, so I guess we are fortunate that no order is
legally binding until I as the seller have acknowledged it. If I am really uncomfortable
with the buyer or what he/she is ordering, I reserve the right to cancel the
order, demand the buyer use a shipping method with insurance and tracking or
to demand another form of payment. If the buyer cannot agree, that is a red flag
and it will strengthen my reasons for cancelling.

For fraudulent chargebacks, use the NPB process and negative feedback, else such
buyers just get a free pass to go do the same thing to the next seller. We cannot
prevent fraudsters and scammers anyway. And in my personal opinion, the feedback
system is not a fair guide to good or bad users, which is why I hardly ever look
at it. So for me personally, this would not be a help at all and might just make
some buyers wary of placing orders in the first case. Some users might feel different,
but the idea that the site should limit the buying experience beyond already
having minimum buys, minimum lot averages, NPB and the one-sided right to cancel
for sellers, does not sit well.

I have no stake in this as I stopped selling parts and sets long ago, but I don't
see the harm this would cause if it's executed properly (meaning invisibly).
It's no different of a feature than minimum buy, bulk lot price limits, or
restricting countries that can purchase from you, and if it's opt in, than
the sellers that don't want to participate will have less competition from
other sellers. Buyers will be oblivious to it, so they won't know.

It's no different than how Bricklink stores operate now. Bricklink is a marketplace
with thousands of stores with their unique inventories and rules (minimum buys,
lot limits, speed/efficiency of operation, etc). Just another tool. The question
really becomes, is there enough interest from sellers for this feature for Briclink
to be bothered with implementing and what other coding/database issues this would
cause (Price Guide listing and sales data).

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 13, 2020 12:31

Subject:

Re: Add feature of minimum FB for listings.

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

Presumably any items that get hidden behind a minimum feedback would also need
to be hidden from anyone not logged in too.

Yes, that would have to be case then. Perhaps those wanting this feature would
just need to accept that and live with it.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 13, 2020 12:18

Subject:

Re: Add feature of minimum FB for listings.

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In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:

If they are intent on scamming, won't they just place five cheap orders to
build up enough feedback to scam?

I thought about that, but if it's up to the store to set the feedback threshold,
they won't know how many feedbacks they would need. Also if the inventory
does not even show up in listings until said threshold is met, they won't
know to target that particular store with the "hidden" threshold.

I understand the frustration of the seller that gets scammed and PayPal is not
siding on the seller's side. Since Bricklink does not want to get involved
with the monetary transaction or protecting the seller in any way, this is not
a bad idea of a feature as long as it's executed in a way where the buyer
is not made aware of it. If the buyer does not see a listing for that store,
than they can't even get upset. There will always be those stores that will
want to take the risk and sell to 0 feedback or whatever feedback buyer, so there
will always be inventory for them. Ultimately supply/demand comes into play.
I see this as no harm no foul sort of a strategy given the situation with PayPal
siding heavily in buyer's favor.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 13, 2020 12:11

Subject:

Re: Add feature of minimum FB for listings.

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In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:

In Suggestions, Miro78 writes:

In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:

This will be unpopular with new buyers but may have support from sellers who
have been defrauded.
We instituted a measure to protect from fraud (based on being defrauded in the
past) where we require buyers to have a minimum of 5-10 positive feedbacks in
order to purchase certain high priced sets.
Currently, we can only put that in the item's description and buyers ignore
it and place the orders anyway which creates a sticky situation.

So the suggestion is:
Add a feature to individual listings that will prevent buyers with feedback rating
under X to purchase a certain item.
I can see merit to limiting X to 10 so sellers don't demand a buyer has 10,000
to be able to purchase items.

We allow 0 and low FB rated buyers to buy 99.99% of listings in our shop but
have been burnt a couple of times by 0 FB buyers who bought sealed sets in mint
condition and claimed they were opened and used and returned us boxes with non-LEGO
items in one instance and ransacked set on another purchase- PayPal obviously
sided with the buyers both times.

I'm hoping this will be a measure that would prevent this type of fraud and
will be optional to allow sellers the chance to opt out.

I understand your concern and I think the best way to handle this would be to
allow individual stores to choose this as an option as opposed to a site wide
mandate. This way you can choose to set your restrictions to your heart's
content and for your peace of mind and allowing others to take the risk if they
choose to do so. The best way to implement this would be so that your listings
won't even show up to those buyers to begin with should their feedback threshold
not meet your criteria settings. Additionally it would be useful if you could
choose various options for your threshold, not just feedback, but also which
types of sets (perhaps select them invidividualy or broadly based on price point,
popularity, risk, etc).

Miro

I completely agree and that is why i specifically said that the seller will have
to opt in on their own discretion.

Perhaps I missed that bit of information.

Important part of this feature would need to be where the buyer is not aware
of the inventory in your store that they are not permitted to purchase, otherwise
this will be off-putting to the buyer and could possibly cause buyers to turn
away from this marketplace and/or your store.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 13, 2020 12:04

Subject:

Re: Add feature of minimum FB for listings.

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In Suggestions, Heartbricker writes:

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 11, 2020 10:57

Subject:

Re: Dark Green - who's going to crack first?

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Colors

In Colors, WoutR writes:

In Colors, 1974 writes:

In Colors, Miro78 writes:

Danish language has no word for pink, so all pinks are purples, which makes
it very confusing

Yes we do, it's called "lyserød" (light red), but we now use the word "pink"
like everybody else

My apologies for mistake. I was going off on what I heard from someone say in
the past. Probably this rumor started because the meaning means light red, as
you say.

Also "purple" is "lilla" in danish, we do not use the word "purple" at all

Cheers

Ole

The Dutch do not use pink. We use "rose" (which is NOT a flower). The "pink"
is Dutch for your little finger. I do not want to suggest any color for that
finger, we should not repeat any flesh/nougat discussions

In my first native language (Slovak) the word for pink (ružová) also comes from
the flower rose (ruže), and it literally translates to rosy. Also the word for
green (zelená) is derived from the word for (zeleň) greenery as in plants and
word zelenina means vegetables.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 10, 2020 11:29

Subject:

Re: Dark Green - who's going to crack first?

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Colors

In Colors, misbi writes:

In Colors, qwertyboy writes:

In Colors, yorbrick writes:

In Colors, misbi writes:

Now that TLG has acquired BL, isn't it about time that we set about resolving
conflicting colour names? The flesh/nougat adjustment shows that it's possible,
so when are we going to rename BL Dark Green to Earth Green?

Obviously there are many others which need aligned over time, but currently Dark
Green should be an immediate priority.

I'd keep it as it is. The flesh -- nougat at least had a reason, even
if not everyone agreed with the reason.

This. Also, what is "earth green" supposed to be? At least, "dark green" is very
obvious - I don't think any non-afol would have an issue identifying which
is the dark green brick in a line-up of colored bricks.

Niek.

Earth Green is something that's not identical to TLG's name for 'standard'
Green. Non-afols coming here after shopping at LEGO's website will be accustomed
to TLG's colour names. Also, Earth Green is no worse than Sand Green!

Take a look at the list here with the names
http://ryanhowerter.net/colors.php

Lego's colors for all the pinks are just crazy

dark pink (BL 47) is bright purple (Lego 221)
bright pink (BL 104) is light purple (Lego 222)
magenta (BL 71) is bright reddish violet (Lego 124)
Danish language has no word for pink, so all pinks are purples, which makes
it very confusing

blue (BL 7) is bright blue (Lego 23)
medium blue (BL 42) is medium blue (Lego 102)
*bright blue sounds lighter in color than medium blue

dark turquoise (BL 39) is bright bluish green (Lego 107)
Lego name is less obvious than BL name

You can compare the names for the rest, but the Lego names are very wordy often
times and quite confusing.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 2, 2020 10:56

Subject:

Re: Sprues

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In Catalog, hpoort writes:

In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:

Are sprues like the one from
[p=x8] in the catalog?
If yes: how to find?
If no: why not?

I would have been interested in buying them when I first discovered their use
in MOCs. I had to buy new leaves instead, in the hope they would include the
sprues.

This might be one of those cases where it would be good to make an exception
and include it in the catalogue. You could try to add it and see what the catmins
think of it. Whether the sprue alone stands a chance, I don't think so, but
the 'leaves on sprue' part has precedents in the flowers, coins and keys.

I save my sprues from this plant element. I have used them here and there, but
not in great quantity. If I was still selling parts, I would have sold them.

On the flip side, the PAB cups and the BAM plastic cases are sold here. They
are in a sense a conduit in getting the part to your home, much like the sprue
on this plant piece.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

Jul 2, 2020 10:51

Subject:

Re: Coral part should not be in the Plant Section

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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:

In Catalog, alcedoatthis writes:

Hello Bricklinkers,

Some minutes ago, I found out that the "Coral" part (49577) is included in the
Plant Section of Bricklink, which is scientifically wrong. Coral is an Animal!

Please check additional information here:
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/coral.html

I wrote to customer service of Bricklink explaining this mistake. I hope they
change this part to the Animal Water section!

Best,

Rita

As it represented seaweed first, it is a plant. To me, I'd identify it as
seaweed, but if people also recognize it as coral, then maybe that should be
added to the name for search purposes. I wonder how many people pick one of these
up and the first word that comes to mind when searching for it is thallus.

Interesting this case is vice versa, a part that has been used extensively as
plants

55236 Plant Vine Seaweed / Appendage Spiked / Bionicle Spine
Parts: Plant

but is listed as an animal part, as that was its original use. Although at least
it had its name changed to include seaweed and plant vine, as that it was it
is also recognizable as.

That is the great thing about Lego, a part that was initially designed as a seaweed
can also be repurposed as a coral. This makes it difficult for categorizing especially
when a part takes on a latter role such as this spike piece (55236) that originally
was used in Bionicle sets but now is used more as a plant vine thingy piece.

That is the beauty of Lego elements, they can take on a different role. I would
not get too hung up on the classification of the seaweed/coral piece. Just keep
it in the plants category as most people would expect to find it there. I am
a biologist and I know that early biologists felt to compelled to classify everything
in biology by bucketing them into distinct groups, but life and nature could
care less how we humans classify things.

I'll leave this thread with my example of the lipstick element (93094). The
way I used it, it's a bird's beak, so it could be classified as an animal
body part in the BL catalogue if Lego chose to use it as such had it's first
appearance been this case. It can also be a chalk writing element to write on
chalkboards.

I enjoyed reading this thread's discussion. I was curious if The New Elementary
blog web page had this same conundrum, and they did, but they did not go
into any lengths in pursuing the discussion and instead focused on the usage
of the part. Article: https://www.newelementary.com/2019/07/plant-or-animal-closer-look-at-plant.html

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 25, 2020 11:40

Subject:

Need of Plate/Tile Round Modified categories

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If this is on the Catalog roadmap, my apologies, but I am noticing some logic
discrepancies on how some of these parts are allocated to their current categories.

Fo obvious reasons, part 25269 (Tile, Round 1 x 1 Quarter) is in the Tile Round
category, because 4 of these makes a nice circle shape.

25269 Tile, Round 1 x 1 Quarter
Parts: Tile, Round

Therefore I am assuming Part 24246 (Tile, Modified 1 x 1 Half Circle Extended
(Stadium)) is in the Tile Modified category because it's irregular and makes
no circle shape, despite one side being round.

24246 Tile, Round 1 x 1 Half Circle Extended
Parts: Tile, Round

Yet part 39739 (Tile, Round 1 x 1 Heart) is in the Tile Round category, despite
the fact that it makes no circular shape (clover leaf shape at best). To me,
they should either be in the Tile Round or Tile Modified as it's confusing
things.

39739 Tile, Round 1 x 1 Heart
Parts: Tile, Round

There are other parts in the Tile Round category which are clearly modified like

20482 Tile, Round 1 x 1 with Bar and Pin Holder
Parts: Tile, Round

2376 Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Lifting Ring Thin
Parts: Tile, Round

This is also true for Plate Round category items. Perhaps it's time to create
Plate Round Modified and Tile Round Modified categories. There may be reason
for not doing this now, but things like this really bug me when searching for
parts where my logic fails to find them, usually parts falling into 2 or 3 categories
due to vague nature of classification.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 22, 2020 13:40

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

This should had been addressed when these parts started to appear first back
in 2014. Problem with many images is that it's hard to tell if they are MCM
or SCM, especially with the digital images replacing actual images. That being
said, this needs to happen sooner than later. It's an important classification
that affects those that need to know or care.

I've added this to the roadmap because there is more involved here than just
identifying and retitling MCM parts. It's the most recent project added
(end of the list):

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

Our goal is to get through one project every month. This is not an overly complicated
project, so hopefully it will happen relatively soon. I would suggest this to
anyone reading: begin working on compiling a list of MCM parts so that when we
begin the project we can breeze through it quickly.

Thank you for adding this to the roadmap. It will be a great asset in the catalogue
and sounds the like MCM acronym is sticking. As some of the parts get identified,
I imagine some entries will need to be changed to "a" and "b" during the transition
that happened in 2014, like the Friends legs that I identified. I also see the
dark blue legs with tan and dark shoes has probably more to do with the original
intent being tan, which looks tan with MCM, but look dark tan when tan color
is applied to dark blue mold, as you can see in my photo here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=851619

Minifig No: frnd043 Name: Friends Matthew - Dark Blue Trousers, Lime Polo Shirt

frnd043 (Inv) Friends Matthew - Dark Blue Trousers, Lime Polo Shirt
Minifigures: Friends

with printed color

Minifig No: frnd066 Name: Friends Andrew - Dark Blue Trousers, Medium Blue Polo Shirt, Blue Cap

frnd066 (Inv) Friends Andrew - Dark Blue Trousers, Medium Blue Polo Shirt, Blue Cap
Minifigures: Friends

with MCM

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 22, 2020 11:42

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Stellar writes:

I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?

I would say it needs to be something in the titles, not in the part number.
We would need something very short because torso assemblies where some parts
occur already have crammed titles. So a code, of sorts, like BAM. It will need
to be something not used in any other part titles or numbers.

Having all that in mind, what do you think about adding the letters DMO
(standing for Dual MOlded) to the titles of dual-molded parts?
This would include those parts that come in similar printed/molded patterns
that are not currently distinguished with separate catalog entries.

This will allow two things: finding all dual molded parts in the catalog by search
and excluding dual molded parts from searches.

Anything to distinguish the Dual MOlded (DMO) from Non-Dual Molded would help.
Although I am not sure people would know what DMO stands for outside of this
thread. I understand the need for a unique acronym.

DCM could be another acronym for Dual Color Mold if you want a 3 letter acronym,
since the O in DMO is not that fitting. This way if they ever do a Triple Color
Mold (TCM) you could distinguish it easily.

Miro

or MCM for Multi Color Mould to cover any future eventuality.

I changed them when I changed the legs and torsos around based on the theory
Robert mentioned up the thread but I'm glad it was brought up and is being
discussed

I like the MCM (Multi Color Mould) acronym. It future proofs things and certainly
distinguishes from SCM (Single Color Mould) parts. Thanks for the suggestion.
This should had been addressed when these parts started to appear first back
in 2014. Problem with many images is that it's hard to tell if they are MCM
or SCM, especially with the digital images replacing actual images. That being
said, this needs to happen sooner than later. It's an important classification
that affects those that need to know or care.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 21, 2020 17:37

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Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Stellar writes:

I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 21, 2020 16:20

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Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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