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 Author: Brickitty View Messages Posted By Brickitty
 Posted: Jul 10, 2020 12:43
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

Yes, it's normal. I just opened hundreds of sealed sets from 2015-2017 and
another few dozen individual sealed bags from 2005-2018. Not only is it normal
to have groove/no groove differences in the same set, but it's also normal
for the proportion of them to vary between different copies of the same set,
even bought at the same place on the same day. Same for hollow stud/blocked open
stud on heads and certain other pieces, same for hollow/solid underside tubes
on bricks and plates, same for virtually every mold difference.
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Jul 10, 2020 08:54
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?

A sealed set sounds like a strong case to remove the undetermined type and add
what you actually found as regular and alternate parts
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Jul 10, 2020 08:41
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In a sealed set 4203 I found the red 44301 with and without groove. Is it normal
to have different variations of one part in one set? Should it be noted or is
the Undetermined Type in the inventory enough?
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 16:48
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Sadly neither do I anymore.



In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick

I would love to see an inventory for x1447c01 in the catalog, but I don't
have the parts to add them.

And we also need a catalog entry for the Duplo pull cart with string and brick.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 16:41
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In Catalog, Stuart9 writes:
  This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick

I would love to see an inventory for x1447c01 in the catalog, but I don't
have the parts to add them.

And we also need a catalog entry for the Duplo pull cart with string and brick.
 Author: Stuart9 View Messages Posted By Stuart9
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 16:09
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This must have been discussed before but I don't remember anything and I
can't find any postings.

Sets 501-3 and 042-1 don't have an inventory list for the vehicle although
you can often find the vehicle bases and occasionally the blue 3001oldb blue
brick seperately.

Was there a reason for not separating these components, I know the string could
pose a problem.

The 3001oldb red is listed.

 
Set No: 501  Name: JUMBO Pull Toy
* 
501-3 (Inv) JUMBO Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Classic: Jumbo Bricks

 
Set No: 042  Name: Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
* 
042-1 (Inv) Jumbo Brick Pull Toy
9 Parts, 1966
Sets: Samsonite: Jumbo Bricks

 
Part No: 3001oldb  Name: Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
* 
3001oldb Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports, with Hole in Top
Parts: Brick
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 16:01
 Subject: Re: Collecting the parts catalog
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?

E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?

Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

Cheers,
Arnoud


That is one of the lists I started with. There are more than 42...

But I am STILL missing one of those! I can't believe how difficult it is
to find number 31!

https://www.flickr.com/gp/111441268@N03/4Q6N24
 Author: antant7 View Messages Posted By antant7
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 12:12
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Sometimes if feels like my girlfriend is actively trying to do exactly that!

We get a new lot in, she does the rough sorting and assembly of any interesting
sets she can find, selects what she doesn't already have in the "play lego"
and gives me the leftovers for the shop.

I'm not complaining... I found the trick. I overwhelm her with parts and
I get a constant supply of (mostly vintage) sets and (eventually) enough parts


Ant
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 11:43
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  […]
I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.

There’s an onlive live tour (part 3 was today)
https://legohouse.com/en-gb/what-s-on/lego-house-live-tours/
Not sure if they will make them available for download sometime.

Anyway, I’d say you’re right on your assesment: it’s not a museum, just a few
toys.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 11:42
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.

I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.

There is a historical section which covers the history of the company and the
development of products, from wooden toys (and barns) through to more modern
day products. It is not a one-of-everything type display, more a showcase of
important stages in the development of todays product.
 
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 11:29
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.

I've never visited, but from reviews I've read and pictures I've
seen this facility does not match the definition of a true LEGO museum in the
way we've been discussing.

That is, it does not display the entire range of LEGO products as pieces and
sets. In fact, from what I've seen in pictures, it doesn't even come
close.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 11:14
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?

I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.

There is the LEGO HOUSE in Billund that documents the history of both the company
and the product.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 11:10
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.

Not so. It would be nice to have official approval, of course, but a museum
could open and operate just fine without it. It just couldn't advertise
itself as a LEGO museum (which is why the existing museum is called the Toy and
Plastic Brick Museum).
 Author: leggodtshop View Messages Posted By leggodtshop
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 08:03
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

Do you intent all the parts known to BrickLink? Or all the parts that exist?

E.g. the 3001 brick comes in 3 major differences on BrickLink, but if you count
all the (technical) differences then there are at least 42... so where
to draw the line?

Here you go, 42 different 2 x 4 bricks...
https://www.leggodt.nl/items/lego/parts.php?group=4&withimages=yes&language=en#top

Cheers,
Arnoud
 Author: gunga View Messages Posted By gunga
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 07:35
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A LEGO museum would be a fantastic idea. Dedicated to the history of the bricks
with the parts collection being the highlight. Similar places already exist
that highlight specific collections - the National Postal Museum comes immediately
to mind with their collection of stamps. So why not one for LEGO parts?

I would imagine that TLG would have to give its blessing to the project if it
were to succeed.
 Author: leggodtshop View Messages Posted By leggodtshop
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 07:14
 Subject: Re: Are there sets with seperate Parts Lists or..
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In Catalog, patpendlego writes:
  Are there LEGO sets with seperate Parts Lists or Inventory Lists?

The Catalog defines packaging and instructions and other books etc.
I would like to know if there are also parts lists?

Thx,
Arnoud

I mean parts lists on paper, like instructions, that come in the box...
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 06:55
 Subject: Re: Brick 3001oldpb03 with LUFTHANSA
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  Yeah, I thought so! But just checking as I am affraid to replace the stickers
and damage them.

The bricks who are not according to the instructions and I remember, are indeed
marked for deletion. How can I put a part as marked for deletion? In this case:
3009pb213

Just submit a catalog request - I have just done this one.

Thanks for spotting it.

  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 06:45
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Yeah, I thought so! But just checking as I am affraid to replace the stickers
and damage them.

The bricks who are not according to the instructions and I remember, are indeed
marked for deletion. How can I put a part as marked for deletion? In this case:
3009pb213

In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 05:58
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In Catalog, primadeluxe writes:
  I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

Stickered parts should only be accepted if they are exactly as show in the instructions.
So in this case it would need to be as a special assembly I'm afraid.

In the past they may have been accepted due to stickered assemblies not being
accepted so it was the next best thing at the time.

  I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

It's just not been marked for deletion (yet ) - if you know of any others
let us know

  Please advice!
 Author: primadeluxe View Messages Posted By primadeluxe
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 05:32
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I have one brick 3001oldpb03 with on both sides a LUFTHANSA stickers from set
1560, but according to the instructions the stickers had to be on two bricks
3001oldpb03. Is it possible to submit the one brick as a part only and not submit
it to the inventory of set 1560?

I have seen some bricks of sets which were not according to the instructions,
but left in the catalog (of course not in the inventory of the set), like 3009pb213.

Please advice!
 Author: leggodtshop View Messages Posted By leggodtshop
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 04:26
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Are there LEGO sets with seperate Parts Lists or Inventory Lists?

The Catalog defines packaging and instructions and other books etc.
I would like to know if there are also parts lists?

Thx,
Arnoud
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 9, 2020 01:42
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  […]
Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.

A bit like for the eradication of diseases like malaria or tuberculosis, or to
end of world hunger, or to attain global world peace…
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.

Not really a long-term project, just one that someone would have to throw some
$$ at (it would be a permanently ongoing project, of course). Basically what
you're describing is the need for a LEGO museum.

I've wanted for a very long time (at least 10 years) to see this happen:
a place where you could visit and see and interact with all the LEGO items in
the BrickLink catalog (sets, parts, gear, etc.). I think about it whenever someone
posts in the forum bragging about destroying a sealed set from 1980, for example,
just to part out the contents.

It is certainly possible to make this happen and it could be set up as a 501(c)(3)
nonprofit. There is only one LEGO museum in the U.S. (the PBM) and its focus
is not on this area. Even Billund does not have a true LEGO museum of all LEGO
items, at least not that I'm aware (the vault doesn't really count).

Anyway, all that would required to make a museum happen is a group of organizers
and some charitable donations.
 Author: gunga View Messages Posted By gunga
 Posted: Jul 8, 2020 18:48
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Such a collection would be an invaluable tool for the hobby, to be sure. While
1 person probably couldn't do it, dozens of people could.

Just an idea - Bricklink recruits members to collect a category (or several,
or part of one - I'm looking at you printed minifig torsos) to house the
"official" parts collection. How to implement such a undertaking, I haven't
a clue.

But imagine the sight and interest it would draw if the entire collection could
be shown at LEGO conventions/shows!

Obviously a LONG term project to be sure.

Bill
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In Catalog, gunga writes:
  Just a random thought that came to me while sorting pieces...

Has anyone tried to collect, and complete, the parts catalog? In other words,
collecting every part in every know color. It would be an interesting challenge
to say the least.

Bill

I'm trying, I've spent almost €20.000 so far But only got 13.000 lots
so far. And I have duplicates as I distinguish new and used parts

This store is getting close: https://store.bricklink.com/GermanParts?p=GermanParts&sortBy=1&breakType=M#/terms

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