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I think we should decide a term that fits more than Dual moulded too, so MCM
is a good option. But we never know if in the future Lego might do hundreds of
dual and triple and future selfs would like to distinguish them

But as things are, this is not likely the case haha

Yes, multi-color molded is probably a good idea rather than dual. If for example
there is a piece with A-B-A colouring (like Bart Simpson legs) is that dual or
triple molding? It might be triple molded but dual colored.

Author:

Stellar

Posted:

May 22, 2020 05:30

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Stellar writes:

I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?

I would say it needs to be something in the titles, not in the part number.
We would need something very short because torso assemblies where some parts
occur already have crammed titles. So a code, of sorts, like BAM. It will need
to be something not used in any other part titles or numbers.

Having all that in mind, what do you think about adding the letters DMO
(standing for Dual MOlded) to the titles of dual-molded parts?
This would include those parts that come in similar printed/molded patterns
that are not currently distinguished with separate catalog entries.

This will allow two things: finding all dual molded parts in the catalog by search
and excluding dual molded parts from searches.

Anything to distinguish the Dual MOlded (DMO) from Non-Dual Molded would help.
Although I am not sure people would know what DMO stands for outside of this
thread. I understand the need for a unique acronym.

DCM could be another acronym for Dual Color Mold if you want a 3 letter acronym,
since the O in DMO is not that fitting. This way if they ever do a Triple Color
Mold (TCM) you could distinguish it easily.

Miro

or MCM for Multi Color Mould to cover any future eventuality.

I changed them when I changed the legs and torsos around based on the theory
Robert mentioned up the thread but I'm glad it was brought up and is being
discussed

But as things are, this is not likely the case haha

Author:

Hygrotus

Posted:

May 22, 2020 04:11

Subject:

Re: Is there a difference between 34987 and 24789

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In Catalog, gvbricks writes:

What is the difference between
[p=34987]
and
[p=24789]
?

Thanks for catching this

Author:

gvbricks

Posted:

May 22, 2020 04:06

Subject:

Is there a difference between 34987 and 24789

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What is the difference between
[p=34987]
and
[p=24789]
?

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

May 21, 2020 21:11

Subject:

Re: Have Quantity in Wanted List

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Inventories

In Inventories, clohr writes:

Hi!

I have uploaded a parts inventory to "Wanted List" using the "Have Quantity"
field, I want to export this information, but it is not possible because downloading
does not rescue the information in that field.

How can I export this information??

It’s in the “QTYFILLED” element in the XML.
(“Want” is in “MINQTY”.)

It works both for download and upload.

Author:

axaday

Posted:

May 21, 2020 21:07

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4562-1

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Inventories Requests

This is the only useful pic I could find among my reference pics. You can't
count them, but you can definitely tell that there are more than 6 each of the
blue and red 3003.

In Inventories Requests, axaday writes:

Please make changes to the following inventory:

4562-1 (Inv) Creator Value Pack
200 Parts, 2004
Sets: Creator: Basic Set

* Add 8 Part 3003 Blue Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 3003 Red Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 41855 Blue Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 Two Studs, Lip End (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 8 Part Trans-Dark Blue 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 8 Part Trans-Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Red 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 3}

Comments from Submitter:
I have deleted my previous requests on this set and am doing it a different way.

- On the blue and red bricks, this variance is what I have found when I parted out two sets before and again when I parted out 1 yesterday.

- I was missing the trans-red slopes before and again and last time I didn't know what to balance them with, but this time the blue 41855 (and maybe/probably last time as well, I don't know) were in the bag with the regular parts, not the floor sweepings, so I think they alternate each other.

-I will also record here that when I parted out two sets before, I only got 2 yellow 3005pe1, not 4 and this time when I parted out one set I didn't get any of them. I suspect that this piece belongs in the extras, but I have no handy proof. I am making these requests from work and it now occurs to me that I may have pictures of the unopened bags last time that would shed some light on this. I will check later.

Author:

clohr

Posted:

May 21, 2020 20:20

Subject:

Have Quantity in Wanted List

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Author:

Bricksonbricks7

Posted:

May 21, 2020 18:45

Subject:

Re: Stickers: Space Shuttle Discovery (7470)

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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:

In Catalog, Bricksonbricks7 writes:

In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

7470-1 (Inv) Space Shuttle Discovery
826 Parts, 1 Book, 2003
Sets: Discovery

In Suggestions, Bricksonbricks7 writes:

I was wondering, how can I go about finding the parts with the stickers? it looks
like some of the stickers are placed over multiple parts

They are in the inventory in the Counterparts section, no?

Only 4 of them are! For example, the one that says United States is not there!

That could be added to the sticker over assembly category of the catalog:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?catType=P&catString=582

But it would involve someone carefully removing the bricks together with the
sticker attached and taking a picture to get it approved.

Until someone does that you may not find it for sale unless someone lists it
as a custom item in their store.

Woah that's super wild! I have one at hand but I'm missing most of the
stickers for it! I was trying to piece it back together but I see that I might
be better to just not do it haha

Author:

BricksThatStick

Posted:

May 21, 2020 18:36

Subject:

Re: Stickers: Space Shuttle Discovery (7470)

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In Catalog, Bricksonbricks7 writes:

In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

7470-1 (Inv) Space Shuttle Discovery
826 Parts, 1 Book, 2003
Sets: Discovery

In Suggestions, Bricksonbricks7 writes:

I was wondering, how can I go about finding the parts with the stickers? it looks
like some of the stickers are placed over multiple parts

They are in the inventory in the Counterparts section, no?

Only 4 of them are! For example, the one that says United States is not there!

Author:

Bricksonbricks7

Posted:

May 21, 2020 18:12

Subject:

Re: Stickers: Space Shuttle Discovery (7470)

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:

7470-1 (Inv) Space Shuttle Discovery
826 Parts, 1 Book, 2003
Sets: Discovery

In Suggestions, Bricksonbricks7 writes:

I was wondering, how can I go about finding the parts with the stickers? it looks
like some of the stickers are placed over multiple parts

They are in the inventory in the Counterparts section, no?

Only 4 of them are! For example, the one that says United States is not there!

Author:

SylvainLS

Posted:

May 21, 2020 18:08

Subject:

Re: Stickers: Space Shuttle Discovery (7470)

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7470-1 (Inv) Space Shuttle Discovery
826 Parts, 1 Book, 2003
Sets: Discovery

In Suggestions, Bricksonbricks7 writes:

I was wondering, how can I go about finding the parts with the stickers? it looks
like some of the stickers are placed over multiple parts

They are in the inventory in the Counterparts section, no?

Author:

Bricksonbricks7

Posted:

May 21, 2020 17:56

Subject:

Stickers: Space Shuttle Discovery (7470)

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I was wondering, how can I go about finding the parts with the stickers? it looks
like some of the stickers are placed over multiple parts

Author:

BricksThatStick

Posted:

May 21, 2020 17:47

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Stellar writes:

I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 21, 2020 17:37

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Stellar writes:

I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?

Author:

StormChaser

Posted:

May 21, 2020 17:07

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

Hey look at that. I found my post about this from 70 months ago.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=851619

I found a thread from November, 2018 that bears some relevance to the topic at
hand:

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=245060&nID=1117413

Author:

StormChaser

Posted:

May 21, 2020 16:54

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, Stellar writes:

I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?

Author:

randyf

Posted:

May 21, 2020 16:48

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, axaday writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

Should dual molded legs or arms in their respective assemblies really be considered
as decorated?
To me BL considered the decorated as by means of printing or applying decoration
using stickers.

example

970c00pb0970 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated

the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?

970d46 (Inv) Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
Parts: Minifigure, Legs

I feel the same way about dual molded arms

973c83 (Inv) Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

There are reasons for not separating them, mainly for new buyers not knowing
or caring about the difference or just the general way of looking at it, but
I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

Any thoughts?

Miro

I support the change. Also the pics you posted are lovely.

LOL

Author:

randyf

Posted:

May 21, 2020 16:39

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1

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Inventories Requests

In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:

In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:

In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:

my own item of this type.

By the way, does that mean you have an original copy of this set (i.e. you got
the set new and never mixed it with other parts)? If yes, could you check if
the parts

32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick {Yellow}

are the "c" type?
[p=32064c,3]

Yes, I have this item in original condition and never mixed with other items.

I will look regarding this Question and give you a Feedback today in the evening.

I forgot that there are two ways to attach the arms. I think the parts are still
in my original box for the set.

Hey I would Like to confirm: Ist ist the C-Type!

Could you please submit an inventory change request for this? That way, you get
credit for the change. If you would rather that I do it, just let me know.

Cheers,
Randy

Author:

axaday

Posted:

May 21, 2020 16:36

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

970c00pb0970 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated

the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?

970d46 (Inv) Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
Parts: Minifigure, Legs

I feel the same way about dual molded arms

973c83 (Inv) Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

I support the change. Also the pics you posted are lovely.

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 21, 2020 16:20

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.

As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.

This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.

Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:

30566 Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
Parts: Tile, Modified

But sometimes we do:

bb0007c01pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
Parts: Electric, Motor

Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated

Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479

The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.

I would certainly like dual-molded differentiated from printed or stickered.
The additional wrinkle is there is no way of knowing when a part is dual-molded
or not.

For example these legs

92253c00pb01 Mini Doll Hips and Trousers with Back Pockets with Tan Shoes Pattern - Thick Hinge
Parts: Mini Doll, Legs

come in dual molded and printed version of the shoes, but BL did not implement
the differentiation even though I brought it up in the past. The quality is vastly
different and hence why Lego decided to start doing dual molding of minifig/minidoll
parts

Miro

Hey look at that. I found my post about this from 70 months ago.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=851619

Miro

Author:

Stellar

Posted:

May 21, 2020 16:04

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

30566 Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
Parts: Tile, Modified

But sometimes we do:

bb0007c01pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
Parts: Electric, Motor

Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated

I would certainly like dual-molded differentiated from printed or stickered.
The additional wrinkle is there is no way of knowing when a part is dual-molded
or not.

For example these legs

92253c00pb01 Mini Doll Hips and Trousers with Back Pockets with Tan Shoes Pattern - Thick Hinge
Parts: Mini Doll, Legs

I would like to see dual-molded parts differentiated too, maybe a new suffix
needs to be created... Maybe Stormchaser has already thought about some options?

Author:

randyf

Posted:

May 21, 2020 15:50

Subject:

Inventory Change Request for Set 6582-1

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Inventories Requests (Entry)

Status:

Open

Please make changes to the following inventory:

6582-1 (Inv) Daredevil Flight Squad
266 Parts, 3 Minifigures, 1998
Sets: Town: Extreme Team

* Add 6 Part 4864b Black Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Hollow Studs (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 6 Part Black 4864a Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs {match ID 0 to 1}

Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set contents. All six had hollow studs.

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 21, 2020 15:35

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:

As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.

This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.

The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.

I don't care either way, but it would be very useful to know which legs are
dual molded (and so have the correct colours on the back of the legs) vs those
that are printed (and so have a single colour on the backs).

I agree. Not to mention those that want to remove the decoration for their customization
or whatever purpose will not be able to do so with the dual-molded version.

Miro

Author:

Miro78

Posted:

May 21, 2020 15:33

Subject:

Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

In Catalog, Miro78 writes:

I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

30566 Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
Parts: Tile, Modified

But sometimes we do:

bb0007c01pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
Parts: Electric, Motor

Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated

I would certainly like dual-molded differentiated from printed or stickered.
The additional wrinkle is there is no way of knowing when a part is dual-molded
or not.

For example these legs

92253c00pb01 Mini Doll Hips and Trousers with Back Pockets with Tan Shoes Pattern - Thick Hinge
Parts: Mini Doll, Legs

Author:

normann1974

Posted:

May 21, 2020 15:18

Subject:

Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7937-1

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Inventories Requests