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 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: May 21, 2020 15:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7937-1
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 Topic: Inventories Requests
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  That sounds about right compared with what I have, also. The brown eyebrows would
have probably been before the color change in 2004 to reddish brown. With your
information and my information, it is clear that any minifigure and set with
this head needs to be looked into before we make any more changes or add any
more minifigures. This sounds like an issue for the catalog roadmap.

I add this picture to the discussion in case anyone can use it in a future project
correcting the red/brown eyebrows issue. These are the 6 heads that I have in
sets that were never mixed with other bricks. I put them in my scanner to ensure
consistent lighting.

/Jan
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: May 21, 2020 15:11
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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  As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.

This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.


  The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.

I don't care either way, but it would be very useful to know which legs are
dual molded (and so have the correct colours on the back of the legs) vs those
that are printed (and so have a single colour on the backs).
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:16
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  […]
I’ll try to make a comparison picture….

Dang. I can’t: I only have the surface paint in black.

I have both versions of the chrome ones but there already is a comparison picture.

I note
 
Part No: 3010p31  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with White Legoland Logo Pattern
* 
3010p31 Brick 1 x 4 with White Legoland Logo Pattern
Parts: Brick, Decorated
exists in both versions: there’s a comparison picture but
only one part in the catalogue….
 Author: ZwarteMagica View Messages Posted By ZwarteMagica
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:13
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8353-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8353  Name: Slammer Rhino
* 
8353-1 (Inv) Slammer Rhino
218 Parts, 2003
Sets: Racers: Drome Racers

* Add 1 Part 32534pb06 Pearl Dark Gray Technic, Panel Fairing # 7 Small Long, Large Hole, Side A with '9' and Black and Red Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8353 (Counterpart)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:03
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
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Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

 
Part No: 3010pb036e  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
* 
3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated


If you actually are wondering about this part, the pattern is both embossed and
painted, while on
 
Part No: 3010pb036s  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
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3010pb036s Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated
it’s only painted.

I’ll try to make a comparison picture….
 Author: dromeracer View Messages Posted By dromeracer
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:45
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1
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In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
  In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
  my own item of this type.

By the way, does that mean you have an original copy of this set (i.e. you got
the set new and never mixed it with other parts)? If yes, could you check if
the parts
 
Part No: 32064  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
* 
32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick {Yellow}
are the "c" type?
[p=32064c,3]

Yes, I have this item in original condition and never mixed with other items.

I will look regarding this Question and give you a Feedback today in the evening.

I forgot that there are two ways to attach the arms. I think the parts are still
in my original box for the set.

Hey I would Like to confirm: Ist ist the C-Type!
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:28
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
  I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.

As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.

This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.

Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:

 
Part No: 30566  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
* 
30566 Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
Parts: Tile, Modified

But sometimes we do:

 
Part No: bb0007c01pb01  Name: Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
* 
bb0007c01pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
Parts: Electric, Motor

Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

 
Part No: 3010pb036e  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
* 
3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated

Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479

The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory of stickered assemblies
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  Any reason why "sticker over assembly" parts don't have inventories like
other (counterpart) assemblies have?

This was answered here:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1174941
 Author: Miro78 View Messages Posted By Miro78
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:06
 Subject: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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Should dual molded legs or arms in their respective assemblies really be considered
as decorated?
To me BL considered the decorated as by means of printing or applying decoration
using stickers.

example
 
Part No: 970c00pb0970  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
* 
970c00pb0970 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated

the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?
 
Part No: 970d46  Name: Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
* 
970d46 (Inv) Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
Parts: Minifigure, Legs

I feel the same way about dual molded arms
 
Part No: 973c83  Name: Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
* 
973c83 (Inv) Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

There are reasons for not separating them, mainly for new buyers not knowing
or caring about the difference or just the general way of looking at it, but
I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

Any thoughts?

Miro
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:02
 Subject: Inventory of stickered assemblies
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Any reason why "sticker over assembly" parts don't have inventories like
other (counterpart) assemblies have?

/Jan

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