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 Author: ZwarteMagica View Messages Posted By ZwarteMagica
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:13
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 8353-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 8353  Name: Slammer Rhino
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8353-1 (Inv) Slammer Rhino
218 Parts, 2003
Sets: Racers: Drome Racers

* Add 1 Part 32534pb06 Pearl Dark Gray Technic, Panel Fairing # 7 Small Long, Large Hole, Side A with '9' and Black and Red Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8353 (Counterpart)
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 21, 2020 14:03
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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 Topic: Catalog
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  […]
Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

 
Part No: 3010pb036e  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
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3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated


If you actually are wondering about this part, the pattern is both embossed and
painted, while on
 
Part No: 3010pb036s  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
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3010pb036s Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Surface Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated
it’s only painted.

I’ll try to make a comparison picture….
 Author: dromeracer View Messages Posted By dromeracer
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:45
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 3723-1
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In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
  In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
  In Inventories Requests, dromeracer writes:
  my own item of this type.

By the way, does that mean you have an original copy of this set (i.e. you got
the set new and never mixed it with other parts)? If yes, could you check if
the parts
 
Part No: 32064  Name: Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
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32064 Technic, Brick 1 x 2 with Axle Hole
Parts: Technic, Brick {Yellow}
are the "c" type?
[p=32064c,3]

Yes, I have this item in original condition and never mixed with other items.

I will look regarding this Question and give you a Feedback today in the evening.

I forgot that there are two ways to attach the arms. I think the parts are still
in my original box for the set.

Hey I would Like to confirm: Ist ist the C-Type!
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:28
 Subject: Re: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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In Catalog, Miro78 writes:
  I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

There are no real definitions for a number of things and we're working right
now to change that.

As for dual-molded parts, I would say that the appearance of the part
is what is important. If a part appears to have a pattern, then BrickLink should
probably treat it as a patterned part regardless of the production method.

This is because when anyone is looking for an item, I imagine they would want
a clean distinction between plain parts and multicolored or patterned parts.
That's not to say we couldn't distinguish dual-molded parts in some
way, either with titles or item numbers. For example, we already distinguish
patterned parts that have stickers using the part title.

Oddly enough, at least for some patterned parts where the production is with
molding, we don't identify the part as a patterned part:

 
Part No: 30566  Name: Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
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30566 Tile, Modified 6 x 6 x 2/3 with 4 Studs and Debossed Star Wars Logo
Parts: Tile, Modified

But sometimes we do:

 
Part No: bb0007c01pb01  Name: Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
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bb0007c01pb01 Electric, Motor 4.5V Type A 12 x 4 x 4 (Train) with Engraved '4,5 VOLT' Pattern
Parts: Electric, Motor

Which makes me wonder what the catalog means when it uses the word "embossed:"

 
Part No: 3010pb036e  Name: Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
* 
3010pb036e Brick 1 x 4 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Embossed Print)
Parts: Brick, Decorated

Anyway, there's still a lot to clean up all across the catalog. The first
step is enacting solid guidelines. Right now we're working on these two
pages and would greatly appreciate input before they become official in 11 (or
fewer) days:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2479

The dual-molding issue will have to wait until we get to a catalog page that
would address it.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:12
 Subject: Re: Inventory of stickered assemblies
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  Any reason why "sticker over assembly" parts don't have inventories like
other (counterpart) assemblies have?

This was answered here:

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1174941
 Author: Miro78 View Messages Posted By Miro78
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:06
 Subject: Is dual color mold really decorated?
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Should dual molded legs or arms in their respective assemblies really be considered
as decorated?
To me BL considered the decorated as by means of printing or applying decoration
using stickers.

example
 
Part No: 970c00pb0970  Name: Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots  Pattern
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970c00pb0970 Hips and Legs with Molded Dark Orange Lower Legs / Boots Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Legs, Decorated

the reasoning is, how is that any different from legs assembly with single color
legs but different color hips or mismatched leg colors?
 
Part No: 970d46  Name: Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
* 
970d46 (Inv) Hips and 1 Medium Azure Left Leg, 1 Bright Light Orange Right Leg
Parts: Minifigure, Legs

I feel the same way about dual molded arms
 
Part No: 973c83  Name: Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
* 
973c83 (Inv) Torso Plain / Yellow Arms with Molded Green Short Sleeves Pattern / Yellow Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.

There are reasons for not separating them, mainly for new buyers not knowing
or caring about the difference or just the general way of looking at it, but
I feel like there is no real definition for the term decorated that should be
defined. As far I am concerned, dual color molding is not really decorating.

Any thoughts?

Miro
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: May 21, 2020 13:02
 Subject: Inventory of stickered assemblies
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Any reason why "sticker over assembly" parts don't have inventories like
other (counterpart) assemblies have?

/Jan
 Author: tron404 View Messages Posted By tron404
 Posted: May 21, 2020 12:32
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4767-1
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In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
  Please do! Every little bit we learn about each set helps the whole LEGO community
learn along with you.

  By the way: one mistake that I did notice as a kid is that in exo-force 7709
Lego gave me a wrong character head. I was missing the head of "Keiken" and instead
had 2 copies of the head of exf001. Do you think this could be considered as
an alternate part or that is just a factory mistake?

Probably just a factory mistake.

Cheers,
Randy

Alright then, thanks again!
Cheers
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: May 21, 2020 11:18
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 623-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 623  Name: Medic's Car
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623-1 (Inv) Medic's Car
26 Parts, 1 Minifigure, 1978
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Hospital

* Add 1 Part BA139pb01 Red Stickered Assembly 4 x 10 x 1 1/3 with Car Grille Black Pattern (Sticker) - Set 623 - 1 Vehicle, Base 4 x 10 x 2/3 with 2 x 2 Recessed Center with Center Hole (First Version), 2 Plates (Counterpart)
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: May 21, 2020 09:27
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 4562-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 4562  Name: Creator Value Pack
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4562-1 (Inv) Creator Value Pack
200 Parts, 2004
Sets: Creator: Basic Set

* Add 8 Part 3003 Blue Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 8 Part 3003 Red Brick 2 x 2 (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 2 Part 41855 Blue Brick, Modified 2 x 2 x 2/3 Two Studs, Lip End (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 8 Part Trans-Dark Blue 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 8 Part Trans-Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 2 Part Trans-Red 3039 Slope 45 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 3}

Comments from Submitter:
I have deleted my previous requests on this set and am doing it a different way.

- On the blue and red bricks, this variance is what I have found when I parted out two sets before and again when I parted out 1 yesterday.

- I was missing the trans-red slopes before and again and last time I didn't know what to balance them with, but this time the blue 41855 (and maybe/probably last time as well, I don't know) were in the bag with the regular parts, not the floor sweepings, so I think they alternate each other.

-I will also record here that when I parted out two sets before, I only got 2 yellow 3005pe1, not 4 and this time when I parted out one set I didn't get any of them. I suspect that this piece belongs in the extras, but I have no handy proof. I am making these requests from work and it now occurs to me that I may have pictures of the unopened bags last time that would shed some light on this. I will check later.

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