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 Author: opposingwinds View Messages Posted By opposingwinds
 Posted: May 20, 2020 08:22
 Subject: One random part...
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Does anyone know why Brick Modified 1 x 2 x 2/3 No Studs, Wing End is
so expensive?? It's in more than 100 sets and I feel like it's quite
common. I came across several stores selling it for $1, even $2.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: May 20, 2020 04:44
 Subject: Re: Length of Electric, Wire and Connector 5306bc
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In Catalog, joel07 writes:
  Hello, I would like clarification on the 5306bc electric, wire and connector.
The number next to it corresponds to the length of the cable, or is it the length
of the cable and the brick (for example 5306bc026) ?
Thank you for your answers.
Best regards,
Joel

C'est un projet qu'on a definit il y a deux ans:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1113705

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1136906

Jusqu'a ce qu'on travail sur le projet, on sais pas. Peronne ne sait.
Le longueur de la cable n'est pas bien definit donc ca peut etre tous ce
qu'on peut imaginer.

Comme j'ai verifie, le longueur des cables de train 7722 sur mes 5 examplaires
n'etaient pas exact en tout cas.
 Author: joel07 View Messages Posted By joel07
 Posted: May 20, 2020 04:19
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Hello, I would like clarification on the 5306bc electric, wire and connector.
The number next to it corresponds to the length of the cable, or is it the length
of the cable and the brick (for example 5306bc026) ?
Thank you for your answers.
Best regards,
Joel
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 19, 2020 16:42
 Subject: Re: Inventory for fabac3
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  I would like to create an inventory for part
 
Part No: fabac3  Name: Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac3 (Inv) Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
just like part
 
Part No: fabac1  Name: Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac1 (Inv) Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
has. But what part number should I use for the base?

If there is no number on it, then it gets a 'bb' number. The next available
'bb' number is bb1131.

Cheers,
Randy

Nope
It will be bb1133
A bb1131 and bb1132 were recently changed to corect numbers so those are occupied.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?viewYear=&viewMonth=&viewGeDate=&q=bb1131&viewStatus=A&itemType=&viewAction=*
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?viewYear=&viewMonth=&viewGeDate=&q=bb1132&viewStatus=A&itemType=&viewAction=*

Oops. My bad. Obviously I can't keep up with everything happening on the
catalog side of things like you can!
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: May 19, 2020 16:33
 Subject: Re: Inventory for fabac3
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  I would like to create an inventory for part
 
Part No: fabac3  Name: Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac3 (Inv) Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
just like part
 
Part No: fabac1  Name: Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac1 (Inv) Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
has. But what part number should I use for the base?

If there is no number on it, then it gets a 'bb' number. The next available
'bb' number is bb1131.

Cheers,
Randy

Nope
It will be bb1133
A bb1131 and bb1132 were recently changed to corect numbers so those are occupied.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?viewYear=&viewMonth=&viewGeDate=&q=bb1131&viewStatus=A&itemType=&viewAction=*
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogReqList.asp?viewYear=&viewMonth=&viewGeDate=&q=bb1132&viewStatus=A&itemType=&viewAction=*
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: May 19, 2020 16:29
 Subject: Re: Inventory for fabac3
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In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
  I would like to create an inventory for part
 
Part No: fabac3  Name: Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac3 (Inv) Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
just like part
 
Part No: fabac1  Name: Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac1 (Inv) Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
has. But what part number should I use for the base?

If there is no number on it, then it gets a 'bb' number. The next available
'bb' number is bb1131.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: normann1974 View Messages Posted By normann1974
 Posted: May 19, 2020 16:19
 Subject: Inventory for fabac3
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I would like to create an inventory for part
 
Part No: fabac3  Name: Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac3 (Inv) Fabuland Scooter with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
just like part
 
Part No: fabac1  Name: Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
* 
fabac1 (Inv) Fabuland Tricycle (1 Front Wheel) with Black Handlebars and Light Gray Wheels
Parts: Fabuland
has. But what part number should I use for the base?

/Jan
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: May 19, 2020 11:37
 Subject: Re: More Variants Discovered
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  […]
Fair point. But the same sets packaged in different factories or even at different
times in the same factory, or perhaps even at the same time in the same factory,
may contain different variants.

That other sets came out differently from the same (or not) factory at the same
time (or not) doesn’t change the fact that one set is as it was when it came
out of the factory.

All the sesterces are different, it doesn’t change the fact some of them can
be certified as being real antique coins from a certified time-period.


  I stand by my opinion that period-specificity is at least somewhat delusional.

If you’re “bricklinking” the set.
And it also depends on your value of “good enough”: Do you trace all the parts,
asserting they came from boxes the siblings of the set you’re bricklinking?
Or are you content with “we know these variants were made around that time”?


  
  So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.

True. But what does that even mean?

Well, you are the one who used the term


  […]
Because of the aforementioned variability in packaging for a given set, what
real meaning do the words "historically accurate" or "period-specific" even have?

There’s the same thing with cars: there are the “only original parts,” the “we
replaced some parts with others from the same manufacturer and period,” and the
“we used some 3D-printed parts” and so on. And some parts (chassis, engine…)
are more important than others (belts) and even on some important parts, some
modifications are allowed without removing value (remove rusted parts of the
body, weld some new bits).

There’s the same thing with all collectible items.

And the “meaning” of “historically accurate” or “period-specific” is not binary
(is / isn’t), it’s, like about every word, a gradation of what people agree it
is.
It can be discussed precisely, generally between a seller and a buyer, to translate
it in monetary value, but it’ll still be generally fuzzy.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: May 19, 2020 10:45
 Subject: Re: More Variants Discovered
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  One’s owning the set since it was bought sealed and never having mixed its parts
allows one to say one’s copy is historically accurate.
Or any certified track of the set and its parts from the time it was bought sealed
allows the latest owner to say their copy is historically accurate.

Fair point. But the same sets packaged in different factories or even at different
times in the same factory, or perhaps even at the same time in the same factory,
may contain different variants.

I stand by my opinion that period-specificity is at least somewhat delusional.

  So even if BL’s catalogue didn’t exist, one could still be proud of owning a
period-specific set.

True. But what does that even mean?

I do not have a large personal collection of LEGO parts. I looked through my
parts collection recently to create the attached image of the variants in molded
printing (which BL doesn't even distinguish) for just one part. And I missed
including one in the photo, by the way.

Each part in the photo shows a distinct and separate variant of molded printing,
with the second from the top having none at all. And my rough estimate at this
point is that at least two thirds of all parts have actual mold variants, while
most parts in production for more than a couple years probably have one or many
molded printing variants.

Because of the aforementioned variability in packaging for a given set, what
real meaning do the words "historically accurate" or "period-specific" even have?
 
 Author: bje View Messages Posted By bje
 Posted: May 19, 2020 10:40
 Subject: Re: More Variants Discovered
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:

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I think I've figured out that, in addition to the other problems with variants,
BrickLink perpetuates the somewhat delusional thinking of pride in owning a period-specific
set.

Only if every single variant was thoroughly documented and also documented to
have appeared in that set could you say that your copy of a set is historically
accurate. And considering that many (if not most or all) parts have variants,
chasing those phantoms might become rather nonsensical at some point.

Don't know about the delusion so much, but I would be pretty ticked off if
somebody sold me a so-called used complete
 
Set No: 10196  Name: Grand Carousel
* 
10196-1 (Inv) Grand Carousel
3227 Parts, 9 Minifigures, 2009
Sets: Creator: Creator Expert: Fairground Collection
at $1 000 and it included
a bunch of modern cheap variants. Or worse still some early space sets with
the wrong clips, and LBG and DBG parts. It is all relative - someone like me
prefer to deal ith the correct thing at the correct time and I am prepared to
invest the time and effort in it. From experience with return buyers, I know
I am not alone. And yes, I've had buyers ask me to check pips, pins, hole
sizes, clips and mold numbers and send images prior to shipping and also to make
sure the variants and colour differences are correct. Of course I've also
had buyers who just do not care.

I personally would not go as far as to mention closed and open pins and combinations
thereof, but I find for the serious buyer it pays to find serious sellers, catalogue
failings notwithstanding

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