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 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: May 3, 2020 14:01
 Subject: Re: Ants
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Adjour (2469)

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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Except for the coloring, is there any difference between [p=62575cx1] and
 
Part No: 23714  Name: Ant
* 
23714 Ant
Parts: Animal, Land
?

Without having both parts to examine, I cannot say. But any differences would
likely be extremely minor.


Yeah, they are different molds, its hard to see in the photo but in person they
are clearly not the same part
 Author: Adjour View Messages Posted By Adjour
 Posted: May 3, 2020 14:00
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In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Except for the coloring, is there any difference between [p=62575cx1] and
 
Part No: 23714  Name: Ant
* 
23714 Ant
Parts: Animal, Land
?

Also, how do we go about numbering in such a case in general? 62575 is the LEGO
design number for the marbled version, 23714 for the plain version. Is the former
really seen as an assembly (cx1)?

I would suggest 62575cx1 renumbered to 23714pb01 and 62575 listed as an alternative
number. Before making such a request, I'd like to be sure about any differences
and guide lines.

And yes, Robert, I know the catalog team has different priorities right now,
but this one just came up and I wonder.


I have both of these. They look different in person. I don't have them in
front of me at the moment but one sits taller and one looks longer.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: May 3, 2020 12:56
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Except for the coloring, is there any difference between [p=62575cx1] and
 
Part No: 23714  Name: Ant
* 
23714 Ant
Parts: Animal, Land
?

Without having both parts to examine, I cannot say. But any differences would
likely be extremely minor.

  Also, how do we go about numbering in such a case in general?

We haven't updated this page yet, but everything about item numbering is
here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168

  62575 is the LEGO
design number for the marbled version, 23714 for the plain version. Is the former
really seen as an assembly (cx1)?

No, this is clearly not an assembly. It was renumbered to maintain compatibility
with Peeron. This happened in 2010 before Peeron died.

  I would suggest 62575cx1 renumbered to 23714pb01 and 62575 listed as an alternative
number. Before making such a request, I'd like to be sure about any differences
and guide lines.

I think this is a reasonable request and I see no reason why it should not be
accommodated. If no one objects within the next day or so I'll make it happen.

  I know the catalog team has different priorities right now

I am not a spokesperson for the team, but I think it would be fair to say that
our priority is always the catalog and any issues that affect it.


https://brickset.com/parts/design-62575
https://brickset.com/parts/design-23714

I would suggest that we use the designID that LEGO uses as the main partnumber.

23714 for the plain version,
62575* for the multicolored version with 23714pb* as an alternate,
and a catalog relationship between them.

That makes sense to me, but it would set a new standard. Probably in line with
what BL would want for XP, but not how it is classically done.

Specifically which type of relationship can we currently choose?
The relation between plain parts and their multicolored, stickered or printed
versions on Bricklink is currently an implied relation only, by means of the
part number. There should be a new relation type defined for this relation type.
Is this in reach of the current catalog admin? And then to systematically set
the relation between each patterned part and it's base part.
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: May 3, 2020 12:30
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I do not see a designID on the multicolored ants.
[p=62575cx1]
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: May 3, 2020 12:29
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Location:  Netherlands, Zuid-Holland
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In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
  In Catalog, hpoort writes:
  Except for the coloring, is there any difference between [p=62575cx1] and
 
Part No: 23714  Name: Ant
* 
23714 Ant
Parts: Animal, Land
?

Without having both parts to examine, I cannot say. But any differences would
likely be extremely minor.

  Also, how do we go about numbering in such a case in general?

We haven't updated this page yet, but everything about item numbering is
here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=168

  62575 is the LEGO
design number for the marbled version, 23714 for the plain version. Is the former
really seen as an assembly (cx1)?

No, this is clearly not an assembly. It was renumbered to maintain compatibility
with Peeron. This happened in 2010 before Peeron died.

  I would suggest 62575cx1 renumbered to 23714pb01 and 62575 listed as an alternative
number. Before making such a request, I'd like to be sure about any differences
and guide lines.

I think this is a reasonable request and I see no reason why it should not be
accommodated. If no one objects within the next day or so I'll make it happen.

  I know the catalog team has different priorities right now

I am not a spokesperson for the team, but I think it would be fair to say that
our priority is always the catalog and any issues that affect it.


https://brickset.com/parts/design-62575
https://brickset.com/parts/design-23714

I would suggest that we use the designID that LEGO uses as the main partnumber.

23714 for the plain version,
62575* for the multicolored version with 23714pb* as an alternate,
and a catalog relationship between them.

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