Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | edeevo  | | Posted: | Apr 23, 2020 11:41 | | Subject: | Re: What does undetermined means in this case. | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, tonnic writes:
| | If I have this part in hands, plate modified 1x2 with 1 stud jumper undetermined
bottom type.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3794#T=C
What does this means when selling this piece? Is it the lazy way of selling this
piece, or the way to sell it if you do not know the differences?
Is it the sort of term I can use when I do not know if it has a groove or not,
does or does not have a bottom stud holder?
In fact, if I sell a part like this, does it means I sell it in the way: I don’t
know, buy it an expect 1 of the 3 different types that are mentioned as related
items?
If not the above mentioned, what does this type of modifies plate looks like?
What can a buyer expect when they buy it?
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It's so one can expect to get a mix of any or all the different types of
that part:
Personally, I try to avoid using the "undetermined" catalog entry when I list
items in my inventory to sell (as I prefer to specify the exact type a Buyer
would be purchasing)... and I believe that the Catalog Admins are trying to remove
all "undetermined" from the catalog (at least that seems to be the trend); though
I don't think that is entirely wie to do...
I can understand the need to have the "undetermined" category, as many Sellers
out there are not as concerned about separating all the different part types
for their respective inventories... and if I were buying from one of those Sellers,
I would at least like to know that they are *not* making a distinction between
the different types and use that category for the listing (it's be kind of
like a blind-bag of parts there! )… additionally, if I were looking for a specific
part-type, I'd rather not have to reference some obscure sentence in their
Store Terms that says they don't make a distinction, and because there is
no "undetermined" category, they have to list their items as the specific type
anyways... THAT can be frustrating.
Other examples of this "undetermined" category of items includes:
* |  | 30359 Bar 1 x 8 with Brick 1 x 2 Curved Top End (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Bar |
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2020 11:40 | | Subject: | Re: Buyer Lock In | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, edeevo writes:
... the auto closing of the store is
| | something that is already kind of set up, no? (I think if a Seller hasn't
logged in during a certain amount of days, it gets locked... unless I'm mistaken)
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That feature does indeed exist, I guess my suggestion is linking into that but
using an additional trigger of "seller has not responded to buyer within x days"
where x is the number of days the seller has set as his response time. The response
could either be the issuing of an invoice or sending a message in the BL system
or similar criteria.
Robert
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Ah, that makes sense... I agree with that also; lock a Seller in, and hold them
accountable to the response timeframe they have chosen to advertise... sounds
good to me.
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2020 11:25 | | Subject: | Re: Buyer Lock In | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Suggestions, Wolffe72 writes:
| | I'm relatively new here, but I have about 10 purchase orders completed and
on-the-go right now. I'm not finding Bricklink overly intuitive to be honest
but I haven't goofed since my first order.
So I understand committing to a purchase. As soon as I place an order I take
the seller's item off the market which means a potential lost sale (or more
likely a delayed sale) if I don't follow through.
However, as a buyer, I now find myself in a position where I've committed
to purchase something from a non-responding seller. It has been a week and I
haven't heard a single response. The store's terms do not mention anything
about possible slow response times. I'll consider this my second goof because
I didn't pay attention to the fact that the store also had no selling history
(only purchase history). Fine.
So now I can post an NRS in an attempt to cancel my order -- but now my understanding
is that I have to wait another 2 weeks for it to be truly cancelled! There is
a really good chance that I'll miss out on picking up this item at a reasonable
price from another store during that time. If the seller doesn't come through,
I might now have to spend a lot more to get this item. On the other hand, if
I choose to buy from someone else the original seller could come in at the 11th-hour
and still ding me as a non-paying buyer (at least that's my assumption on
how this works). Right now, I'm thinking I should just take that chance.
Unlike the store who has potentially limitless buyers, item availability is
*definitely* limited and prices just tend to go up over time.
Personally, I think that if a seller doesn't respond within a minimum time
(and I think a week is plenty) a buyer should be given the option to simply cancel.
Maybe it's something the store could configure so buyers can be made aware
of stores that are not managed frequently. If the seller has at least acknowledged
the buyer during that time, then perhaps different rules could apply.
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I agree with you that this can be an issue. Personally I would like to see a
feature where all sellers have to state an order response time in their terms
(a required field) and if they do not respond within that time then the buyer
can just cancel the order with no risk of NPB or bad feedback and the store automatically
closes until the seller wakes up.
Robert
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Could not agree more; that feature would be a welcome addition to addressing
this issue.
Even considering the current global circumstances, if a Seller keeps their store
open, they should be responding to their Buyers in a matter of days (3 max);
if they do not, then a Buyer should be able to cancel the order outright with
zero risk of it affecting their feedback... the auto closing of the store is
something that is already kind of set up, no? (I think if a Seller hasn't
logged in during a certain amount of days, it gets locked... unless I'm mistaken)
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2020 13:48 | | Subject: | Re: Question about part x168 | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, edeevo writes:
| | I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser at the helm…
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I appreciate the vote of confidence, but I am not at the helm of anything.
I am the merely the newest of three catalog associates and we all work together
as a team with the two inventory administrators.
My role on the team is to spend most of my time posting in the discussion forum
while others do the actual work. 
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...an important calling nonetheless... 
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Mar 16, 2020 12:00 | | Subject: | Re: Question about part x168 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, LordSkylark writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, jonwil writes:
| | is labeled as "underwater" when it has never
appeared in any underwater type sets?
Should it be renamed?
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It has been renamed.
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Is there a reason that the "x" number is still the primary number when the actual
part number is now known?
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I'm guessing it also has to do with all the dependencies within the site
that would be affected if the numbers were simply changed... & it's probably
a bit of a chore to verify and test such dependencies *before* making the change
each time, though I'm confident we're in good hands with StormChaser
at the helm…
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Nov 9, 2018 18:05 | | Subject: | Re: Wondering if part 53588 exists - want to buy | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, RoswellGinny writes:
| | I have sold a bunch of these. I did list one that I thought had no marbling,
but then when I got ready to ship it I realized there was a tiny bit of marbling
at one corner. I think that there were some produced that had such a small amount
of marbling that if you didn't look at it closely you could mistake it for
solid as I did. Luckily my buyer seemed happy with it regardless.
This is the total of what I have currently in stock, but I'll check my storage
and if I see more I'll shoot you a message.
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^^This^^
I've also sold a bunch of these items over the years and a few had very little
marbling on them, but it was still there... I recall one of them had the marbling
that could only be seen on the bottom of the base, except for a slight marbled
curved line that ran down one side of it (the whole top looked like a solid color
with a weird curved line in it)... I remember it, because on at least a few occasions
I would see it in a certain light, and think the part was actually cracked. 
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Aug 17, 2018 19:13 | | Subject: | Re: Seeking Opinions on Part Assemblies in Invs | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In LEGO, randyf writes:
| | In LEGO, StormChaser writes:
| | In LEGO, WoutR writes:
| | Assemblies that are combined simply because they are "easy to sell" or "probably
wanted by buyers" are no real counterparts according to this definition. (Although
I do usually buy my hinges combined/as a pair, so I have some mixed feelings
about those.)
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As I said, I imagine the catalog entries would remain. You could still buy and
sell assemblies (like the hinges you prefer to buy as a pair), but they wouldn't
be included in inventories.
As for assemblies that aren't really legitimate counterparts, I only made
two exceptions: parts with wheels and wheel and tire assemblies. I don't
feel like two exceptions is too many. The other exceptions are special/large
assemblies and those will likely have their own section in inventories at some
point.
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Just to reiterate, I am not in favor of wheel and tire assemblies in inventories
unless they came that way and are listed in the Regular Items section. Wheels
and tires are not hard to take apart. My kids have been doing it since they were
young.
| | Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. It seems like everyone who
has responded are on pretty much the same page. The only real problem I can
see with better defined inventories is that it will create more orphaned catalog
entries (entries without appearances in sets or timelines of release). These
orphaned entries are somewhat off the beaten path and thus are more difficult
to locate.
How do you feel about that?
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Orphaned entries in the catalog do not bother me. There are tons of items in
the catalog that will never be attached to any inventory, and there are also
tons of items in the catalog that will never be sold. Database storage is cheap.
If people want to use the entries to sell assemblies, so be it.
Cheers,
Randy
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I can't honestly remember if these came assembled:
What I do know is if you find one assembled still, and it doesn't have cracks,
keep it that way; because I have had very little success removing them without
cracking them(!)
Though, in general, I agree with Randy about his view on tire and wheel assemblies...
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2018 16:01 | | Subject: | Re: 4495, now 4495a and 4495b | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, edeevo writes:
| | […]
Except that the problem with doing this (removing the undetermined entry) will
only cause many Sellers to list either/or version of the flag into either/or
entry... meaning that they will continue to not make a distinction between the
two, but list them in one of the two available entries (and *maybe* leaving a
note stating that they "do not distinguish between versions of this part" if
you're lucky)... In other words, you may think you will not have a catalog
"stuffed with undetermined entries", but the two catalog entries will actually
be stuffed with items that are really undetermined (i.e. if the goal was to force
Sellers into listing their items into the appropriate catalog entries, this will
not fix that... many still list similar items in one category or another without
an undetermined entry)...
To be clear, I will more than likely separate each of the flags in my inventory,
to maintain consistency in having my listings correctly identified... but having
been a Buyer from numerous Sellers with the same sort of parts, I can confidently
say I am one of the rare Sellers that does make those distinctions; hence the
problem I identified above...
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Thing is, if there were an “Undetermined LEGO Part” entry, some sellers would
use it to list all their parts
(Well, maybe they would need two entries: one for cheap parts and one for expensive
parts )
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I don't see the point in mocking the issue I raised: the fact is that many
Sellers will not list each flag correctly... all that will happen is the shifting
of "undetermined" from the catalog entry to the actual parts entered into the
two catalog entries; which makes the catalog look good and clean, but not accurate
for Buyers... which is why I typically turn to other resources now when I am
looking to buy specific variants of parts, because I cannot rely on many Bricklink
Sellers to make distinctions between the variants, and it makes finding the ones
that do very difficult... when there is an "undetermined" catalog entry, it at
least gives many Sellers a chance to list all their specific parts (regardless
of variant) in one place, and doesn't clutter up the *actual* variant entries
with a ton of undetermined items...
This is not even addressing the Sellers that only place their undetermined items
into the more expensive variant entries, then add a note stating that they "don't
distinguish between variants"... not only does that negatively affect the catalog
and price guide, it creates a situation where it makes wanted lists problematic
(i.e. they will not distinguish between stores that do separate variants and
ones that simply put all of them into one variant with a note)...
I am not saying I know what a good solution would be to this, but I do see the
above problems with adding two variant catalog entries, whilst simultaneously
removing the undetermined one... and hopefully, I'm not just screaming into
the abyss on this one (I've been known to do that)...
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Jul 30, 2018 14:17 | | Subject: | Re: 4495, now 4495a and 4495b | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
In Catalog, Dino1 writes:
[SNIP]
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And which clown decide to delet the origin entry?
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We're not going to have a catalog stuffed with undetermined entries. When
a decision is made to split an entry, the original one has to go. We plan to
move this process along much faster, btw, than in the past. Six months is plenty
of time for sellers to move their stock, not the years and years that is has
taken in the past.
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Except that the problem with doing this (removing the undetermined entry) will
only cause many Sellers to list either/or version of the flag into either/or
entry... meaning that they will continue to not make a distinction between the
two, but list them in one of the two available entries (and *maybe* leaving a
note stating that they "do not distinguish between versions of this part" if
you're lucky)... In other words, you may think you will not have a catalog
"stuffed with undetermined entries", but the two catalog entries will actually
be stuffed with items that are really undetermined (i.e. if the goal was to force
Sellers into listing their items into the appropriate catalog entries, this will
not fix that... many still list similar items in one category or another without
an undetermined entry)...
To be clear, I will more than likely separate each of the flags in my inventory,
to maintain consistency in having my listings correctly identified... but having
been a Buyer from numerous Sellers with the same sort of parts, I can confidently
say I am one of the rare Sellers that does make those distinctions; hence the
problem I identified above...
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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| Author: | edeevo | | Posted: | Sep 21, 2016 17:15 | | Subject: | Re: BL Message Invoice Option... | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
| In Suggestions, Macaronis writes:
| | You know all the years I have been here and it just dawned on me. I dug around
and never saw this as a suggestion or at least I do not think I have.
When Invoicing why not just add the ability as a Check Box to Send as a (BL message
INVOICE), Rather then a Copy and Paste if your someone who sends your invoice
as a BL message rather then a straight email.
All the stuff for this to happen is already in place... just need to make some
code additions to the Invoice window.
W
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this already in place? When I
send invoices to my Buyers, it is sent as both a BL message *and* an e-mail...
Life is Good.
~Ed.
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