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 Author: manganschlamm View Messages Posted By manganschlamm
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 09:14
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php


Great work, very helpful and instructive, keep on doing your excellent work,
wherever it may appear.

Keep making these wonderful cartoons as well.
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 08:54
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In Catalog, Captain_Q writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.

I am curious now. Is this allowed? Because the links were not directly shared
of BO but overall this seems like a conflict on interest with the TOS? Yeah,
no?

Well I think this is just something "they don't like". I also mentioned Br*ckOwl
somewhere just to explain a point and it got removed or something like that
(don't recall clearly, but it was an issue).

It always makes me feel weird when Bricklink is being all "shhhh don't mention
to people that Br*ckOwl exists". I can only see that as Bricklink calling itself
a bad marketplace. It would make Bricklink look a lot better and professional
if they acknowledged AFOLs use different sites and tools at the same time and
didn't go all "shhh!".

Btw Mark I read your response on your page and I agree. It is not about "picking
a side" at all.
 Author: Legoboy_II View Messages Posted By Legoboy_II
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 06:53
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog, StarBrick writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  
Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.

I think that was not the real reason, but hey, I can't read minds (yet...)

I hope it is not.

I have read the email the admin sent the now banned member, there were no violations
cited...
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 06:03
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In Catalog, StarBrick writes:
  In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  
Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.

I think that was not the real reason, but hey, I can't read minds (yet...)

I hope it is not.
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 05:31
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In Catalog, WoutR writes:
  
Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.

I think that was not the real reason, but hey, I can't read minds (yet...)
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 05:16
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

As people, we can be interested. But I have to agree. It is none of our businesses
and not Bricklink's businesses either. What links he places on his own, external
website is his choice.

Banning a member for placing links on an external website would be childish.
If that is the only reason for a ban, then it is unacceptable.
 Author: StarBrick View Messages Posted By StarBrick
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 04:02
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Once more awesome pictures and studies of the difference between parts that we
all call the same.
Marvellous work again!!!
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 03:18
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, Captain_Q writes:
  In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.

I am curious now. Is this allowed? Because the links were not directly shared
of BO but overall this seems like a conflict on interest with the TOS? Yeah,
no?

It depends on the distance and it depends on how you define the distance. I have
two definitions at hand:
Definition one: the distance between two websites is the minimum number of clicks
required to go from one website to the other.
In this case, this distance would be three: first click on the link that he
provided. The second click would be on "fup", and the third would be on one of
his images.

Definition two: 1+ "the minimum number of websites required to be visited"
Based on this definition, the distance would be 2 because one only need to visit
mfav's website to get from here to the other website.

Bricklink follows the first definition. The rule that they follow on Bricklink
depends on the other website:

For Ebay, the distance cannot be more than 25018 otherwise the thread will be
cancelled.

For BO, the distance cannot be more than 888102 otherwise the thread will be
cancelled.
For Lego.com, the distance could me more than 99999999 for threads posted before
December 2019. Since December 2019, the distance is allowed, sorry, it is encouraged
to be one.
 Author: Captain_Q View Messages Posted By Captain_Q
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 03:00
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Wondering what type camera/filters/editing programs you're using?
Your closeup pictures come out amazingly detailed.


In Catalog, Leftoverbricks writes:
  Mfav (Mark) has been suspended from the forum so we will not know.


Hopefully not for long. But perhaps I can shed some insight as I have a background
as a photographer/videographer.

I can't say what camera, but for pictures like this a macro lens is required
to get close in shots with tiny objects like Lego. If Mark is using a DSLR of
some kind or comparable then shooting uncompressed photos will retain sharper
images.

I can't say what filters Mark used, but a polarizer filter can help greatly
with reducing reflective / semi-reflective surfaces like Lego.

And Mark is most likely using a light box of some sort or using white surfaces
of some kind to bounce the light for even lighting/softer shadowing.

Hopefully Mark will be back to elaborate but hopefully this information is helpful
in the meantime.

-Quinton
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
 Posted: Mar 22, 2020 02:14
 Subject: Re: Clips Ahoy, part three.
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In Catalog, Heartbricker writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Wondering what type camera/filters/editing programs you're using?
Your closeup pictures come out amazingly detailed.

Mfav (Mark) has been suspended from the forum so we will not know.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 23:57
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

I really appreciate the work you are doing to collectively identify, organize,
and call reference to all of these clips. I don't think BrickLink will ever
have a need to recognize so many variations, but your resource is without a doubt
a huge benefit to all AFOLs. Very nice work, Mark.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 23:47
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:

  randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

What I meant to say was that the part comes as one complete unit in the sets
directly from LEGO and is counted as one part by LEGO. There is no need to assemble
it, and it is not meant to be disassembled. I was rushing through messages before,
so I didn't explain it well enough.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 23:28
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  This set review has both the red and LBG holders:

https://youtu.be/cIeqTh0x82g

Good find! It looks like bag #2 comes with the red chassis that already has
the red 2X2 plates with small pins attached.

Thanks,
David
 Author: Heartbricker View Messages Posted By Heartbricker
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 23:13
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

Wondering what type camera/filters/editing programs you're using?
Your closeup pictures come out amazingly detailed.
 Author: Captain_Q View Messages Posted By Captain_Q
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 23:05
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In Catalog, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.

I am curious now. Is this allowed? Because the links were not directly shared
of BO but overall this seems like a conflict on interest with the TOS? Yeah,
no?
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 22:17
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Well, I don't know how much respect someone like me is due

But you're right, it is none of my business.
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:54
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.

Ouch! They are two good guys. That is the nicest you can be?

John P
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:47
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

With all due respect, it's none of your business.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 21:36
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In Catalog, popsicle writes:
  In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?

That is a very good and important question.
 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 20:21
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In Catalog, mfav writes:
  http://v4ei.com/brickref/clips-w-k.php

A very nice site you’re constructing. The detail of information and quality is
amazing!

I’m curious though, why do all of the active links on your fup page, link
to Law’s site, Brick Owl?
 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:46
 Subject: Re: Wheel plate stuck on car chassis piece
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In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David

This set review has both the red and LBG holders:

https://youtu.be/cIeqTh0x82g
 
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:28
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In Catalog, BricksThatStick writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic

That's the same as what I have, except in different colors. Do you know
if they come already assembled in the box? (The one I have is from a used lot.)

randyf, the part is definitely made up of 3 separate parts (1 of the main chassis,
and 2 of the modified 2X2 plates.) Each of the 3 parts has a molded part number
that you can see on the underside.

David
 Author: mfav View Messages Posted By mfav
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 19:25
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 Author: BricksThatStick View Messages Posted By BricksThatStick
 Posted: Mar 21, 2020 18:47
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

The pin that holds them on clips through and then can't be reversed - see
pic
 
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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In Catalog, randyf writes:
  In Catalog, crazylegoman writes:
  Does anyone know if
 
Part No: 6157  Name: Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
* 
6157 Plate, Modified 2 x 2 with Wheels Holder Wide and Hole
Parts: Plate, Modified
is meant to be able to be removed from
 
Part No: 11650c01  Name: Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
* 
11650c01 Vehicle, Base 5 x 10 x 2 1/2 with Mudguards and 6 x 2 Recessed Center with 3 Holes with (Same Color) Wheels Holders Attached
Parts: Vehicle, Base
once they are together?

The whole vehicle base is one part. Nothing on it is meant to come off.

Sure?
LDraw has the part (11650.dat) without the plates with wheel pins and the part
with the plates exist in two versions: 12622.dat in one colour and 12622p01.dat
with LBG plates.

Are those some sort of rivets?
Or do they use a special technique to connect the plates?


  
  I feel like the axles are going to snap off of the 2X2 plates if I pull any herder
than I already am. Also, I've never seen a post with a tapered part at the
end like the chassis piece has. It seems a bit like those Bionicle brains and
heads.

David

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